1StopRudeness:


How has science proved the Qur'an...God isn't provable by physical address...weda christain or Muslim faith or anyother faith......u can't point t to him and say he's here..its by multiple testimonies and evidences
.science works on facts and multiple validation .....the Qur'an goes completely against that principle of science yet u say science proved the Qur'an..

There were some things mentioned casually mentioned in the Qur'an that science came to prove.

Qur'an says the sun is a shining light while the moon is a derived light the bible goofed big time on this one.

That mountains are like stakes(pillars)

Points on embryology. Speaks about a baby growing in 3 layers of darkness.

That iron was sent down, even the early scholars were a bit confused on that verse until scientists proved that iron came down in a meteorite shower millions of years ago.

These and many more that an illiterate in a desert could bever have known 1400 years ago.

Islam has never gone against science, except for evolution though. Muslim geographer , Muhammad Al Idrisi was one of the first people to draw a world map in detail in the early 12th century . He and scientists of that agreed that the earth was round, some Christians at that time disagreed with. It was centuries later the reluctantly agreed that the earth was not flat.

donbenie:
The problem with believing in a dream or other religious dogma for that matter..

Is that you already have your answer before the questions are asked..

All you have to do is to fit the questions to the answers you already have..

Something happens in your dream,

All you need for your dream to be accurate..

IS,

ANYTHING that fits to the answer of what you dream of..

And you latch on to it as evidence your dreams are true..

FALLACY..

I appreciate your response, now fit this in...

Sometime in 2011 I dreamt my car windscreen got broken, woke up that morning washed the car and went to church, later same day I was in my room when my neighbor come to call me and was begging me to forgive his son, they were playing and throwing stones when a stone landed and broke my windscreen...

I guess that was a coincidence, was it?

OndoRaph:
You are half Christian and half pagan

lolz

We shall all have our part in history

donbenie:
Is that what Christianity believes or your own personal CONVICTION?.

ALL religions believe that they are the one TRUE WAY,

And all others are FAKE and INFIDELS.

Based on personal research.

Yigiyaga:
Remove th word''RATIONAL''from this equation because theres nothing rational about christianity.
* Conception Christ...irrational
*Theory of judgement...irrational
*Story of the Ark...irrational
*Adam and Eve story....irrational

i will take my chances and if theres actually a judgement day which i greatly doubt,i can show God reasons why i didn't believe the shitty christianity story. And if casting me His son into a lake of fire solves the issue then so be it as long as Satan could fight back so will i.

Hahahaha.... This one got me... He said he will fight back. Mehn people are damn funny on this forum

tete7000:



I like your hypothesis, it looks good. However have you ever thought of the fact that subjectivity doesn't mean that truth doesn't exist but only points out to the fact that we need to look for something which is concrete and true. Of all different views, one may likely be true or truth may actually exists outside of known views. In that case, as rational beings our aim in life should be to open up and be willingly to if necessary temporary dispose our thoughts to weigh other thoughts and see if they contain the truth we search for.

Sounds good and coherent but I can't seem to see the relevance of the above post. you seem to be agreeing with me

That aside, looking critically at one of the things you wrote up there, how can atheist enter the heaven that belongs to God they never acknowledge? One of ways of searching for truth is to critically analyse our hypothesis. On what basis will atheists enter heaven of a theistic God.

Yes! as unbelievable as it may sound there's still a possibility a god exists that sent us to this world with no evidence of his/her/its existence with the intention of weeding out those that would believe in his/her/its existence despite being no evidence. since the main post of the OP is based on "what if" I'm also throwing a "what if" at him

Go check up the meaning of the word 'Atheist' then come and edit this your post.

Topmaike007:
OP my own Atheist believe say God dey and give us his only begotten son to die for us,but I don't believe in going to church because of the doctrines those pastors potrays...

lilbest4:
there shouldn't be need for a house in a perfect place. Houses evolved from caves where men hid for protection from wild animals and natural disasters.
Houses today protect us hot sun, rain and thieves of What use is a mansion in heaven that's supposed to be perfect

Lol. Bro ask me o.

You hear of beautiful gate, golden street, fountain of life and all the rest nonsense

Topmaike007:
so you want to tell me that I am not a Christian? I keep is commandments but the only one I avoided is going to church.

Yes

TLoveFoundation:

Greetings in love,

Jesus is real. The words of the scriptures are real.

God convincing us all of His existence is as insulting as asking your true biological mother to prove she's your mother when there are enormous signs, evidence and people to support it. But even at that God has revealed Himself in Jesus Christ His Son Who is Lord.

You knowing and being completely, logically and rationally convinced of God makes you Omniscient and only God knows it all that's why we walk by faith not by sight (even pilots fly by instructions from the control tower and not from the view of the aircraft- as an aside!)

If Jesus is not real and you die and wake up to nothingness or you don't wake at all
what would you have lost in not killing, cursing, hating, abusing drugs, food, alcohol, sleep and se.x
what won't you have gained in living a holy life, praising, praying, reading the world's best selling book (the Bible), being charitable, responsible, humorous, kind, simple and participating in the development of your society?

The life of a Christian in the life of Christ Jesus is wholesome.
It's not dull, rigid, boring, judgmental, fearful, pretentious, irrational, illogical, unscientific or empty.
In God Almighty is the fullness of life.

Come to God today through His son Jesus Christ. Accept His invitation and be born again. It's not rocket science but the best thing that can happen to you as it happened to me and so many others past and present. Knowing Jesus is the greatest gift we can receive; sharing Him is the greatest gift we can give.

We love you and God loves us more.
TLF

I don’t need to accept Jesus Christ not to kill or steal - this predated Christianity , Christians hate and curse people of other religions and enemies everyday - I don’t think iv seen a group of people who have legitimized hating and cursing others like Christians ,not abusing drugs is common sense / u don’t need to be a Christian to see that , as for sex - God Gave us sexual organs for a reason - if he didn’t want us to have sex -he should have continued with producing humans out of dust and ribs .

Crap Paschal wager...

3kay945:
Where is this dude *thehomer* ?

Your favourite thread is here.

What do you want with me?

thehomer:


What do you want with me?

Maybe I didn't notice, cos it has been a while I read your post. Most especially when it comes to religious matters.

I do enjoy it, I must confess.

3kay945:


Maybe I didn't notice, cos it has been a while I read your post. Most especially when it comes to religious matters.

I do enjoy it, I must confess.

Thanks. I aim to please.