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Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by bkbabe97y(m): 8:30pm On Sep 10, 2010
Onlytruth:

If you haven't noticed, that is what Jonathan is saying indirectly. He is saying these:

Ijaw man will remain the president
Igboman will protect that presidency
Efik/Ibibio man will whip you in line.

It is time for the East to rule!  grin grin

Same gloating yall did the day after Jan.15 1966! Dont u monkeys ever learn?
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Onlytruth(m): 8:32pm On Sep 10, 2010
mikeansy:

Onlytruth  and co, you guys should take this kind of rhetoric easy.

it does not hurt to treat others with respect whether you think you are on top or under.

I never abused anyone. I just stated facts as they are. I then cracked a joke about Efik man whipping people in line. Is that sacrilege? Meanwhile you know me by now that I don't withdraw statements.  cool cool cool

The man is securing himself in office the best way he knows. If I point that out, how does it become a rhetoric?

Truly baffled.  undecided
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by EzeUche22(m): 8:34pm On Sep 10, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Same gloating yall did the day after Jan.15 1966! Dont u monkeys ever learn?

Look abi, prior to 1966, we Igbos were number 1 in Nigeria. During the Colonial Administration, the British favored us. We were highly favored, but those days are long gone.

Can we not be happy over this appointment? For 44 long years we Igbos have not felt like Nigerians. But this is one small step.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Onlytruth(m): 8:34pm On Sep 10, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Same gloating yall did the day after Jan.15 1966! Dont u monkeys ever learn?

Goat if you noticed, NOBODY DIED. undecided
Unless you will die because an Igboman took command of the army for the first time in 44 years. I will gladly hand you a rope. No apologies about that.  cool
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by gadogado(m): 8:48pm On Sep 10, 2010
chyz:

This is great.I think every Igbo feels atleast a little bit nigerian now.Once the 2nd bridge is built its a rap. Also, i believe if IBB becomes president the new Army chief will be removed in less than a year to give the north back dominant power.

So Jonathan now wants to strategically take power away from the north. hmmm
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Dede1(m): 8:49pm On Sep 10, 2010
I have to say it have been a sad day perusing disingenuously luring and error-filled articles about the appointment of COAS. It is even a shameful exercise on the part of the authors in attempt to compare COAS to the position held by Ironsi as the GOC of the Nigerian armed forces.

All these mockery endeavors to make Ndigbo fall into a shallow pit of euphoria stem from unforgettable backstabs the forbearers of these hack writers gave to Ndigbo in 1966. Any Igbo person who falls for this political gimmick and unwanted salute from these vultures is an irredeemable fool.

The position of Ironsi as GOC of Nigeria armed forces can correctly be equated with the position of CDS (Chief of Defense Staff) which another Igbo chap is vacating. I guess it is unqualified ignorance that brought out these hack writers to paint the appointment of Maj Gen Ihiejirika red-rosy because the appointment was made by supposedly an Ijo that swelled the ranks of the southern Nigerians who joined the northern region in fight against Ndigbo 1967. I guess the appointment of Dike to the position of CDS (Chief of Defense Staff) does not fly because it was made by a northerner. It is an insult to Ironsi, Nidgbo and military parlance to equate the position of COAS to GOC of Nigerian armed forces.

By the way, when Ironsi was the GOC of Nigerian armed forces there were positions of Army Chief of Staff and Naval Chief Staff including IG of police.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Dede1(m): 9:12pm On Sep 10, 2010
Safariman:
Did we know which side he fought for during the civil war or he was not in the force then?

I do not think Maj Gen. Ihiejirika fought on the Nigerian side. If ever he was old enough to join the military, my bet will be with Biafra. If he was commissioned in 1977 as a regular combatant soldier, he may have joined NDA in 1975. I contemplated on the faith of kinds who made the course intake of 17th regular and 21st short service in 1976.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Onlytruth(m): 9:14pm On Sep 10, 2010
Dede1:

I have to say it have been a sad day perusing disingenuously luring and error-filled articles about the appointment of COAS. It is even a shameful exercise on the part of the authors in attempt to compare COAS to the position held by Ironsi as the GOC of the Nigerian armed forces.

All these mockery endeavors to make Ndigbo fall into a shallow pit of euphoria stem from unforgettable backstabs the forbearers of these hack writers gave to Ndigbo in 1966. Any Igbo person who falls for this political gimmick and unwanted salute from these vultures is an irredeemable fool.

The position of Ironsi as GOC of Nigeria armed forces can correctly be equated with the position of CDS (Chief of Defense Staff) which another Igbo chap is vacating. [/b]I guess it is unqualified ignorance that brought out these hack writers to paint the appointment of Maj Gen Ihiejirika red-rosy because the appointment was made by supposedly an Ijo that swelled the ranks of the southern Nigerians who joined the northern region in fight against Ndigbo 1967. I[b] guess the appointment of Dike to the position of CDS (Chief of Defense Staff) does not fly because it was made by a northerner. It is an insult to Ironsi, Nidgbo and military parlance to equate the position of COAS to GOC of Nigerian armed forces.

By the way, when Ironsi was the GOC of Nigerian armed forces there were positions of Army Chief of Staff and Naval Chief Staff including IG of police. 


I noticed the error of mix up of chief of army staff (COAS) and general officer commanding (GOC)/CDS (Ironsi).

The point though is that in Nigeria, the CDS don't do much in terms of prevention of coups. 95% of the time, coups are conducted by army personnel who fall under the watch of the COAS.
So, in that sense, the chief of army staff (COAS)  is most strategic (though junior to the CDS). If you want to ensure that you are not toppled in a coup in Nigeria, you must take a close look at your choice of chief of army staff (COAS).
That is the point of this appointment. I don't think those in the know ever missed the point of this appointment.

So, in that context, Jonathan has demonstrated his trust of Ndigbo to protect him in office. I can't see it any other way.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by KnowAll(m): 9:24pm On Sep 10, 2010
@Dede

You have spend too long in America, u don't have a clue how or where d real and true power lies in d military, even a dullard and a complete illetrate would give u a proper insight of who weilds the real power in d armed forces. The Paul Dike u so eloquently exult was sleeping like my little 3 year old neice on d day Dambazzau mobilised 300 soldiers to welcome d Caracas of messers Yaradua. Is dat d kind of power one would be proud, I am afraid I beg to differ, d igbo's have been giving proper and legitimate power with this elevation, dat said it is however a short-lived and transient one, which would be over b4 one finish saying " Jacky Stone".

The young Igbo officer should enjoy it while it last and let's hope there would be no insubordination by junior officers of a different tribe or ethnic group, I believe we have passed dat threshold I would sincerly hope. undecided
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by excanny: 9:39pm On Sep 10, 2010
PROFILE OF NIGERIA'S NEW ARMY CHIEF
NAME: Major General
Onyeabo Azubike Ihejirika
DATE OF BIRTH: 13 Feb
1956.
PLACE OF BIRTH: Ovim,
Isuikwuato LGA, Abia State
ENLISTED: JUNE 1975
DATE OF COMMISSION: 17
Dec 1977
CADETSHIP TRAINING:
NDA Regular Course 18
APPOINTMENTS:
Chief of Army
Standards and
Evaluation
GOC, 81 Division (07
Jan 2007 – 2008)
AWARDS:
a. Chief of Army Staff
Commendation Award
(CCA) for excellence
performance in assigned
task in 1986.
b. Fellow Nigerian
Institute of Quantity
Survey (fniqs) in 2008
LAST APPOINTMENT:
Chief of Defence Logistics,
Defence Headquarters


I have a feeling that this guy fought as a child soldier in biafra. Just a thought!
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Onlytruth(m): 9:46pm On Sep 10, 2010
excanny:

PROFILE OF NIGERIA'S NEW ARMY CHIEF

I have a feeling that this guy fought as a child soldier in biafra. Just a thought!

Likely not. I have a cousin who was born in 1955, he never even left his mother's bosoms as the war raged.

In 1967, this new COAS was 11 years. Too young.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Nobody: 10:03pm On Sep 10, 2010
KnowAll:

@Dede

You have spend too long in America, u don't have a clue how or where d real and true power lies in d military, even a dullard and a complete illetrate would give u a proper insight of who weilds the real power in d armed forces. The Paul Dike u so eloquently exult was sleeping like my little 3 year old neice on d day Dambazzau mobilised 300 soldiers to welcome d Caracas of messers Yaradua. Is dat d kind of power one would be proud, I am afraid I beg to differ, d igbo's have been giving proper and legitimate power with this elevation, dat said it is however a short-lived and transient one, which would be over b4 one finish saying " Jacky Stone".

The young Igbo officer should enjoy it while it last and let's hope there would be no insubordination by junior officers of a different tribe or ethnic group, I believe we have passed dat threshold I would sincerly hope. undecided
Paul dike's case is different entirely. . .the Army has always been in charge of CDS position,therefore,giving it to an airforce simply didn't augur well with them since such position has always been their slot.i guess that is why all those things happened then.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by ezeagu(m): 10:22pm On Sep 10, 2010
I really don't understand Nigeria. How is the appointment of this one Igbo man going to 'give the Igbo power and influence', or will he make decisions for Nigeria with the Igbo needs as priority? The Nigerian army won't become an Igbo army overnight just because an Igbo person has a high rank in it. Isn't it clear enough that this is for the election? Do the powers that be have to come out spell it out for people? Either way, I don't see how this changes anything, and I'm really not going to celebrate a certain group 'dashing' another group their rights. undecided
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by igboboy1(m): 10:33pm On Sep 10, 2010
Sons of Odua or odudua or is it tiger scratched face, igbo man poo u must talk, igbo man is giving doggy to a yoruba girl u must talk, OBJ is smoking igbo you must talk, anything that has igbo una must show, I feel proud to be part of such a popular group,

We Ndigbo Demand you (odua peeps) pay us attention

IGBO KWENU

grin
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Dede1(m): 10:38pm On Sep 10, 2010
KnowAll:

@Dede

You have spend too long in America, u don't have a clue how or where d real and true power lies in d military, even a dullard and a complete illetrate would give u a proper insight of who weilds the real power in d armed forces. The Paul Dike u so eloquently exult was sleeping like my little 3 year old neice on d day Dambazzau mobilised 300 soldiers to welcome d Caracas of messers Yaradua. Is dat d kind of power one would be proud, I am afraid I beg to differ, d igbo's have been giving proper and legitimate power with this elevation, dat said it is however a short-lived and transient one, which would be over b4 one finish saying " Jacky Stone".

The young Igbo officer should enjoy it while it last and let's hope there would be no insubordination by junior officers of a different tribe or ethnic group, I believe we have passed dat threshold I would sincerly hope. undecided

Granted infantry section of the Armed forces holds the bridgeheads, any branch of the military can initiate a coup d’état. All it takes is charismatic officer with skills to convince other fellow officers to buy into idea of coup.

Even your handle name could not hide you ignorance when military matters are paramount. grin The only things or group of persons that could foil a coup are unwilling would-be participants, paranoid leaders, size of the armed forces, training and doctrine, military intelligence and level of advancement of the society. GOC of  infantry divisions could not even discourage a coup if the Brigade commanders agreed to participate.

Jerry Rawlings of Ghana was an Air force Flight Lieutenant (Captain as an Infantry) and yet he engineered a coup not once but twice.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Nobody: 10:41pm On Sep 10, 2010
igbo boy:

Sons of Odua or odudua or is it tiger scratched face, igbo man poo u must talk, igbo man is giving canine to a yoruba girl u must talk, OBJ is smoking igbo you must talk,  anything that has igbo una must show, I feel proud to be part of such a popular group,

We Ndigbo Demand you (odua peeps) pay us attention

IGBO KWENU

grin
is he ok ?
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by EzeUche22(m): 10:48pm On Sep 10, 2010
He is from Abia just like Ironsi. grin
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Nobody: 10:56pm On Sep 10, 2010
So why the madness ?
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by OgidiBoy(m): 11:01pm On Sep 10, 2010
igbo boy:

Sons of Odua or odudua or is it[b] tiger scratched face[/b], igbo man poo u must talk, igbo man is giving canine to a yoruba girl u must talk, OBJ is smoking igbo you must talk, anything that has igbo una must show, I feel proud to be part of such a popular group,

We Ndigbo Demand you (odua peeps) pay us attention

IGBO KWENU

grin

My brother see me see trouble ohhhh!!!

L M A O grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

*ogidiboy passes kola to igbo boy to break for he is a very wise man*
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by excanny: 11:13pm On Sep 10, 2010
EzeUche22:

He is from Abia just like Ironsi. grin

That means Abia produces seasoned army officers.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Nobody: 11:21pm On Sep 10, 2010
KnowAll:

@Dede

You have spend too long in America, u don't have a clue how or where d real and true power lies in d military, even a dullard and a complete illetrate would give u a proper insight of who weilds the real power in d armed forces. The Paul Dike u so eloquently exult was sleeping like my little 3 year old neice on d day Dambazzau mobilised 300 soldiers to welcome d Caracas of messers Yaradua. Is dat d kind of power one would be proud, I am afraid I beg to differ, d igbo's have been giving proper and legitimate power with this elevation, dat said it is however a short-lived and transient one, which would be over b4 one finish saying " Jacky Stone".

The young Igbo officer should enjoy it while it last and let's hope there would be no insubordination by junior officers of a different tribe or ethnic group, I believe we have passed dat threshold I would sincerly hope. undecided


You can never  assume what amount of intelligence is available to CDS when it comes to deployment of military officers. In fact I will be more worried if you or anybody in the media are able to know what the CDS knows. So do not assume things you have no clue about. Deploying bridgade of gaurds is the routine role of the ADC. While CDS Paul Dike may have reservations about such deployment; outright opposition is beyond his paygrade and as such will be an escalation of a very sensitive issue for may be no reason. However if the CDS has real evidence or can identify a clear case of the Bridgade of Guards undermining our National Security then he will lawfully have the right to deploy troops to contain the Bridgade of Gaurds.

So please let us not seat in Nairaland and speculate  on the CDS job. The CDS is the head of all Joint Military and Armed Forces command. The idea that the Chief of Army Staff weilds more power than the CDS is simply a hangover that has gotten stuck in our heads due to our experience from the military years.

I dare say it seems to me that the Nigerian Army has even managed to move on from those dark ages better than the rest of the citizens. Sometimes you have Nigerians specualting on coup over nothing. Its very shocking at times. The world has moved on, folks just need to move on with it.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by MetalGong4: 11:24pm On Sep 10, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Listen to this old divisionist! Oh,

Being an Old freedom fighter or an Old Hispanic pros.titute which one would you choose? . . .  Surely you old Hispanic LovePeddler will stick to your brothel business . .  sad
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Onlytruth(m): 11:34pm On Sep 10, 2010
Frankly speaking, this would not have generated so much buzz if it weren't any big deal.

Don't let anyone fool you; this is a big deal. I'm not saying that it has solved all Igbo problems in Nigeria. It has only closed a gap. Now, next time an Igbo man aspires to be president, no one will look at him as if he lost his mind.

Nigeria has a history of coups, and 99% of them were staged by the army. This appointment shows trust. I wish my brother well on his new job. He needs to do it well.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Abagworo(m): 11:36pm On Sep 10, 2010
excanny:

That means Abia produces seasoned army officers.

Ovim as a village has produced the most generals and military officers in the eastern nigeria if not in the entire south.
Ike Nwachukwu
Ndubuisi Kanu
Ebitu Ukiwe
and a lot more are from this village in Isuikwuato,Abia.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by AndreUweh(m): 11:53pm On Sep 10, 2010
Abagworo:

Ovim as a village has produced the most generals and military officers in the eastern nigeria if not in the entire south.
Ike Nwachukwu
Ndubuisi Kanu
Ebitu Ukiwe
and a lot more are from this village in Isuikwuato,Abia.
Am not so sure about the bolded, I thought he is an Ogbo man.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by jason12345: 1:56am On Sep 11, 2010
finally igbos would stop blaming yorubas for there war wink
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by babapupa: 2:12am On Sep 11, 2010
I'm happy for igbo folks. abeg break guilder and pami make we celebrate. maybe this good gesture go alleviate their rage and disgruntledness a little bit,
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Eziachi: 4:27am On Sep 11, 2010
Abagworo:

Ovim as a village has produced the most generals and military officers in the eastern nigeria if not in the entire south./
Ike Nwachukwu
Ndubuisi Kanu
Ebitu Ukiwe
and a lot more are from this village in Isuikwuato,Abia.

I thought Ukiwe/Ndubuisi are both Ogboo guys? And that rogue called Amadi Ikwecheghi who died early this year.

Nwachukwu I'm sure his father is from Isikwuato, as he never really identified with us until late 80s when his mothers kinmen made military governor of Imo state to thank him for his treachery.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by mrperfect(m): 8:18am On Sep 11, 2010
This is a welcome development.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by Nobody: 9:11am On Sep 11, 2010
Well I think the president is been careful here. By changing the chief of army staff to an ibo candidate, he's trying to be on a safer side in future. Nice move tho,
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by AndreUweh(m): 11:20am On Sep 11, 2010
Eziachi:

I thought Ukiwe/Ndubuisi are both Ogboo guys? And that rogue called Amadi Ikwecheghi who died early this year.

Nwachukwu I'm sure his father is from Isikwuato, as he never really identified with us until late 80s when his mothers kinmen made military governor of Imo state to thank him for his treachery.
Ndubuisi KANU is from Ovim actually. I have been to his family house in Ovim. I met in London about 5 weeks ago.
Re: 44 Years After Ironsi, Igbo Named Army Chief by EzeUche22(m): 1:34pm On Sep 11, 2010
koolhunk:

Well I think the president is been careful here. By changing the chief of army staff to an ibo candidate, he's trying to be on a safer side in future. Nice move tho,

He wants an Igbo man to protect him! Brilliant move. Our Eastern brother only a fellow Eastern can give him the protection he needs as goes against the North.

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