udezue:

EzeUche, u haven't given any practical reason why you support the idea of North taking power and even having more power other than you hate Yoruba and Ijaw. Nwanna I am sick and tired of your Ijaw-Yoruba diatribe jare. Yes they are who they are but don't forget the Frank Opugo, Wole Soyinka, Fajuyi, Tos Benson,etc. Tell me when in history have u seen a Northerner-Hausa-Nupe-Fulani ever break ranks to support the East against oppression? Not 1 person from the North. Its crazy how u adamantly support a region that is known for their rabid hatred of the Igbo and East. U keep yapping about having no permanent enemies or friends but even when u have an opportunity to stand up against a historical formidable enemy you quickly throw it away all in the name of satisfying your dislike of the Ijaw and Yoruba. I can understand if an Igbo man was running and the North was supporting him but that is not the case. The North aint thinking about you or give a damn about you. Only thing they want to do is use you and dump u so its either u stay neutral or you push them off da cliff coz guy they are close the edge. [/b]This is the only few chances we have to render these cattle herders irrelevant and move forward so sheet your swords for once. I understand how you feel about Ijaw and Yoruba but that is not enough to subject yourself to slavery. We have gon against the Yoruba b4 and yes have proven to them that we can do it and achieve what we want but now is time for us to face a deadlier foe. What do we stand to gain by supporting Northern rule? You want to tighten their grip on us even more, continue to control our resources and land and further Islamize us. IBB damn well almost turned Nigeria into ajn Islamic state by adding Nigeria as member of OIC. Have u forgoTten what that jihardist did? Guy quit being overly stubborn and think. [b]Under IBB there will no hope for resource control, autonomy, and issues we hold dear in the South and East.

Onlytruth:

Udezue,

All the points you raised are valid, but the issue goes deeper than that. I don't think Igbo people supporting power shift to the north or IBB are doing so to spite anybody. In fact the single biggest reason they are doing it is because of zoning enshrined in the PDP constitution. Of course if Jonathan runs under a different party, do you think that Igbos won't vote for him? Heck they will still vote for him even if he runs as the PDP candidate.

Having said that, there is no proof that a Jonathan presidency will favor Ndigbo more that a northern president. There is just no proof. I don't see Jonathan touching big issues like resource control, state police or true federalism. In fact, part of why he is still getting support from some northerners is precisely because they know he can't do any of these things. They see him as a least dangerous easterner to have in office. I wish he can surprise them, but that may remain a wish. IBB, much as I recall some of his ills in government, still did some big things, some of which favored Ndigbo. We have Asaba today because of IBB. He created more states for us too. So, warts and all, he still did something for us. My fear of Jonathan is that I don't see him doing anything big, and then power rotates back to the north who would then ensure that it never moves south again.

For me, Jonathan needs to do a few things. He needs to do resource control, state police and if possible keep power in southern Nigeria for 50 years, long enough for those things to permeate.
The north is what it is. The question is: Can Jonathan handle them? I don't want someone who would waste an opportunity, basically waste our turn, and hand back to the north.

Instead of that, I would rather support a northerner from the start. At least we can negotiate our real interests from start. IBB is not your typical northerner, which is why some northerners hate him. He actually sees Nigeria as a whole. I don't see him continuing Igbo marginalization in Nigeria. Jonathan may want to end it, but he lacks the balls to do it.

amingafar:

But if igbos vote for IBB they can have Number 2 position for IBBs term, just forget about 2015 and settle for vp.

Onlytruth:

My friend the more you talk the more you expose yourself as a Yoruba man.

No northerner would be this afraid of a northern president. You see what I mean?

If you follow me carefully, you will notice that I am not really against Jonathan presidency. I only think that he may blow the eastern opportunity to shape things up. That's all. I need an action person to either give me what I want in Nigeria or break it up. I don't want to say how Jonathan or IBB or any northerner would unknowingly break up Nigeria if Jonathan wins and fails to restructure Nigeria, or if a northerner wins and fails to hand over to an Igbo man in 2015. One thing is certain, either Igbo man gets his fair share of power in Nigeria by 2015 or we will use every means necessary to break it up.

What you don't know is that the days of the Igbo man in a bottle is long gone. So go and mind Yoruba affairs. Leave us alone.

amingafar:

But if igbos vote for IBB they can have Number 2 position for IBBs term, just forget about 2015 and settle for vp.

udezue:

EzeUche, u haven't given any practical reason why you support the idea of North taking power and even having more power other than you hate Yoruba and Ijaw. Nwanna I am sick and tired of your Ijaw-Yoruba diatribe jare. Yes they are who they are but don't forget the Frank Opugo, Wole Soyinka, Fajuyi, Tos Benson,etc. Tell me when in history have u seen a Northerner-Hausa-Nupe-Fulani ever break ranks to support the East against oppression? Not 1 person from the North. Its crazy how u adamantly support a region that is known for their rabid hatred of the Igbo and East. U keep yapping about having no permanent enemies or friends but even when u have an opportunity to stand up against a historical formidable enemy you quickly throw it away all in the name of satisfying your dislike of the Ijaw and Yoruba. I can understand if an Igbo man was running and the North was supporting him but that is not the case. The North aint thinking about you or give a damn about you. Only thing they want to do is use you and dump u so its either u stay neutral or you push them off da cliff coz guy they are close the edge. This is the only few chances we have to render these cattle herders irrelevant and move forward so sheet your swords for once. I understand how you feel about Ijaw and Yoruba but that is not enough to subject yourself to slavery. We have gon against the Yoruba b4 and yes have proven to them that we can do it and achieve what we want but now is time for us to face a deadlier foe. What do we stand to gain by supporting Northern rule? You want to tighten their grip on us even more, continue to control our resources and land and further Islamize us. IBB damn well almost turned Nigeria into ajn Islamic state by adding Nigeria as member of OIC. Have u forgoTten what that jihardist did? Guy quit being overly stubborn and think. Under IBB there will no hope for resource control, autonomy, and issues we hold dear in the South and East.

amingafar:

YOU HAVE A POINT DID IGBO HELP THE NUPE GWARI KANURI OUT? NO so I dont see the point in voting for an igbo sorry
we can always do business and I can always give contracts to Igbo but vote for one No im sorry
igbos have no business in politics only in money.

lik the igbos under Balewa did- we can do it again,

chyz:

I guess thats fair enough seeing that no Yoruba will ever smell presidency in nigeria again. I'll talk business with a Yoruba but i will never support him in becoming president.thats definitely a no no. Why regress when we can progress.

amingafar:

Yorubas have already had presidency Obasanjo was Ok but not what we in the middle belt need, we need a minority tribe who is muslim indifferent about regions and tribes, educated and has a vision. Sambo is from Kaduna which is ok because hes indifferent about religion.

I wont be voting for a yoruba or igbo or hausas-fulani  im looking for a progressive northerner mostly from the NC.

chyz:

you're not from the middle beltaand you are a Yoruba man.

amingafar:

just know southerners wont be getting my vote.

amingafar:

first you said I was a yeribaman from Kwara
Then you said im a Yoruba from kogi
Now you say Im a Yoruba from the south,

chyz:

I never said you were from kogi or kwara but i did say kwara was in the north and i did say you saying your from kogi proves you're a Yoruba man. However, i am saying you are a Yoruba from the south. you are only fooling yourself.

amingafar:

what ever you say

if you want my vote you better convert to islam.

chyz:

I'm already a muslim and i don't need your vote so shove it.

amingafar:

igbo muslims? Maybe Allah sent you to convince us to vote for igbo.

Igbo are good people aside from religion.

amingafar:

sbeezy?

amingafar:

you are confused first nairalander said I am becomrich who ever he is, then I am an Ijawman posing as an Hausa when I said Im not Hausa, Now im Sbeezy?

smh

chyz:

Yea they were wrong.especially with becomrich because your dont speak his english. You are sbeezy tho, i've watch closely the whole time.

amingafar:

you have good reason to think i am a yorba but im not. if im not aligned with the north im with the sw but thats because there are yruba people in my region. theyare who i share common interest with so some of our opinions will be d same

bt im not sbeezy tha guy was on earlier the same time as me you can ask anyone. same with becomerich guy

chyz:

You just said you're father was Yoruba. stick to your story. sbeezy was not on.dont even remember seeing him on 2day.and since your suppose to be new how the hell are you fixated on sbeezy so quick? . Look man try harder.your cover has been blow.give it up! All that middle belt shyt's for the birds.