This is quite unreasonable

obailala:
Oga, there's nothing wrong with a person having a personal culture of communing with their God before they start their day. For you to have a problem with that, you're simply being a bigot (i.e. intolerant of the views/culture of others).

I always tell people something, if the message is so important or an emergency, send it as an SMS and highlight the importance (and maybe the other party might reconsider their priorities). But hating on someone simply because they say they have to pray before starting their day, I'm confused at the kind of Christian you claim to be.

I didn't ask you not to pray but the issue of not talking to anyone before praying even if it's an emergency seems somehow to me. That's my point.

sgtponzihater1:
People make noise so much in Nigeria. The hospital have chosen their mode of operation, if u cannot wait till after morning devotion then kindly seek help elsewhere. In Western countries u don't just walk in to see a Doctor, u book an appointment, and u are given a suitable time to be seen. It's only in emergencies u walk in and expect to be attended to with urgency. I bet if it was an emergency they'll attend to u. That's their own mode of work, accept it or seek help where u deem better for u.

A Nigerian Doctor went to Finland for some fellowship, and was surprised that even hospital staff cannot just carry their cards and demand to see a Doctor. They are given a time. A patient cannot rush u, and plead to be seen when it's past your closing time, but we see patients complaining about that. During Launch breaks non-emergency cases have to wait for launch to be over, but I have seen Nigerian patients screaming that why should they be abandoned for lunch.

It is against our professional. Where in the hippocratic oath can we find that? So you mean the buddist and atheist do that nonsense too or they went through different training. Your patient is the number one consideration not useless morning devotion.

Glory2DLamb:
So, what have you said in effect?
Who determines what is an emergency?

Is it possible that those same hospital staff had their family devotions before coming to work?
What time is the does the hospital open to see patients?

If the devotions were so important to them why wouldn't they have come earlier to handle that before the resumption time?

We should already stop giving God and the things of God a bad publicity because of our stupidity.

Every organization has its rules and regulation they have chosen that time for devotion.
they know the time they open to patients etc...
stop supporting bad things.

Your question is Like, you go to the bank and you want to transfer money by 7Am because its important.. Bro you
have to wait

let the truth be told and don't be afraid of telling the truth.

Kendumazy:


I didn't ask you not to pray but the issue of not talking to anyone before praying even if it's an emergency seems somehow to me. That's my point.

But it's just a personal thing; different people have different ways they relate with God and no one is saying the other person is right or wrong. Some Christians may say they cant taste alcohol, or wear earrings or hair extensions; oetc. But as long as they don't impose their personal ways on everyone else or judge others for not being like them, then there's nothing wrong with that. We should try to be tolerant of the cultures of others.

Onlyonebuhari:

It is against our professional. Where in the hippocratic oath can we find that? So you mean the buddist and atheist do that nonsense too or they went through different training. Your patient is the number one consideration not useless morning devotion.

So if the hospital starts the business of consultation by 9am, why exactly should anyone be losing sleep about what they do before 9?

obailala:
So because the law in the UK persecutes someone for having a religious faith, does that necessarily make it a right and proper thing?

This is common sense, religion is different from professionalism.it does not make sense zyhe hospital is not a church.its for services.

obailala:
So because the law in the UK persecutes someone for having a religious faith, does that necessarily make it a right and proper thing?

You cannot be rational in thinking when you become so religious.

obailala:
But it's just a personal thing; different people have different ways they relate with God and no one is saying the other person is right or wrong. Some Christians may say they cant taste alcohol, or wear earrings or hair extensions; oetc. But as long as they don't impose their personal ways on everyone else or judge others for not being like them, then there's nothing wrong with that. We should try to be tolerant of the cultures of others.

Understood. Thanks

olas24u:

This is common sense, religion is different from professionalism.it does not make sense zyhe hospital is not a church.its for services.

Freedom of religion and belief is a right in the UK. There's nothing wrong with a person choosing to pray in a hospital for a patient or anywhere else. It only becomes a problem if the patient or the family of the patient disapproves it and you still go ahead to pray by fire by force. Heck! prayer mustn't be restricted to a building called church

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sgtponzihater1:
People make noise so much in Nigeria. The hospital have chosen their mode of operation, if u cannot wait till after morning devotion then kindly seek help elsewhere. In Western countries u don't just walk in to see a Doctor, u book an appointment, and u are given a suitable time to be seen. It's only in emergencies u walk in and expect to be attended to with urgency. I bet if it was an emergency they'll attend to u. That's their own mode of work, accept it or seek help where u deem better for u.

A Nigerian Doctor went to Finland for some fellowship, and was surprised that even hospital staff cannot just carry their cards and demand to see a Doctor. They are given a time. A patient cannot rush u, and plead to be seen when it's past your closing time, but we see patients complaining about that. During Launch breaks non-emergency cases have to wait for launch to be over, but I have seen Nigerian patients screaming that why should they be abandoned for lunch.

The day you really get frustrated,sad,near depressed and question the worth of your practice as a Dr is when you are on call and you are called to see an HMO patient with 2 kids or siblings,at 5am because the child woke up and complained of a headache!So the parents or caregivers decided to "also bring others along so they can all be treated for malaria".At 5 fucking am!!!

Onlyonebuhari:

It is against our professional. Where in the hippocratic oath can we find that? So you mean the buddist and atheist do that nonsense too or they went through different training. Your patient is the number one consideration not useless morning devotion.

Patients are our number one priority as Doctors right. If a Hospital has prayer time, and a client is not happy with it, he can choose to seek care elsewhere. Some clinics close at 4pm, if u come by 5pm and it's closed, does it mean the Hippocratic oath has been broken? I worked where clinic starts by 9am, and before then theres 10mins prayer time and it's clearly stated. If a patients comes at 8am when we are doing ward round and start screaming to be seen, he is simply told it's 9am, however emergency is attended to immediately. Even in the UK u can't just walk in to see the GP immediately without an appointment. Let's not get things wrong.

olas24u:

You cannot be rational in thinking when you become so religious.

Religion is not for the rational minded; they are two opposing things. There's a reason RELIGION is alternatively called "FAITH". Faith is all about believing in things that are NOT, as if to say they WERE. If you are trying to be rational or logical, you cannot have faith; you have to choose one - Faith or Rationality! And when we make our choices, we should try to respect the choices made by others.

doctokwus:
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The day you really get frustrated,sad,near depressed and question the worth of your practice as a Dr is when you are on call and you are called to see an HMO patient with 2 kids or siblings,at 5am because the child woke up and complained of a headache!So the parents or caregivers decided to "also bring others along so they can all be treated for malaria".At 5 fucking am!!!

Just a shame. Medicine in Nigeria still has a lot of restructuring to be done.

Madam u want to trend on top God matter.
I don't see what is wrong with that if that is how the hospital runs.
I beliv they will not tell u to wait if ur case is an emergency. So why are u fuming?

U will go to a bank to make early transaction, they will stand u outside the gate, telling u to wait till the morning talk from Oga, you will wait patiently on top of ur money they are holding and u will not make any noise. You will even go inside and greet them very well and become very humble to them. That is people that ur money kept in that business.

Just because the hospital want to to wait for just 5mins for their morning prayers to the God that holds ur life, u are here ranting just to cause others to start criticizing our religion.

U will go to government offices, u will meet secretary on desk doing nothing. You will make a request or demand for a help. He/she will tell u that he/she is on break and u have to sit there waiting for him/her as they gist and laugh with their colleagues for one hour and u won't do anything.

Why do people disrespect God so much?

Onlyonebuhari:

It is against our professional. Where in the hippocratic oath can we find that? So you mean the buddist and atheist do that nonsense too or they went through different training. Your patient is the number one consideration not useless morning devotion.

So because a person is a doctor, they shouldn't have a personal life outside their patients right?... Everything else they do is "USELESS" right?.. If a patient comes outside consultation hours, the doctors and nurses should leave everything else in their lives and attend to a patient who can't stick with a clearly communicated appointment time?

obailala:
Freedom of religion and belief is a right in the UK. There's nothing wrong with a person choosing to pray in a hospital for a patient or anywhere else. It only becomes a problem if the patient or the family of the patient disapproves it and you still go ahead to pray by fire by force. Heck! prayer mustn't be restricted to a building called church

You can't do that in the u.k ,it's not professional,and the person risk jail.religion with common sense is what is accepted not stupidity.if they were into morning service, afternoon sevice ,Sunday service will they have developed up this level.all the equipment used in the hospital nonhas been produced here.Infact you can be jailed in most developed world trying this nonsense.

obailala:
Religion is not for the rational minded; they are two opposing things. There's a reason RELIGION is alternatively called "FAITH". Faith is all about believing in things that are NOT, as if to say they WERE. If you are trying to be rational or logical, you cannot have faith; you have to choose one - Faith or Rationality! And when we make our choices, we should try to respect the choices made by others.

I have met rational minded fellow with knowledge about almost everything religion and different types of religion,I have met researchers searching and researching missing pages in the Bible,yet they don't behave has stupid has one Nigerian religious people.they don't even call themselves pastors.do you know the meaning of pastor in other countries of world.you think is this place that everybody calls themselves pastors.this action is stupid.

Na so o, especially Catholic hospitals

obailala:
So because a person is a doctor, they shouldn't have a personal life outside their patients right?... Everything else they do is "USELESS" right?.. If a patient comes outside consultation hours, the doctors and nurses should leave everything else in their lives and attend to a patient who can't stick with a clearly communicated appointment time?

Your reasoning is terrible,it will take several year to dislodge the shit in your brains.get some exposure outside of you enclave.

[quote author=ainas247 post=78036660] whats wrong with that? because of you, they should stop devotion?
if the case is an emergency, we understand.
for you to have 5 Minutes Patience you cant...

So what determines if it is an emergency
Do you know what can trigger an emergency in a sick patient??
Besides why open the hospital doors when your not ready to attend to patients??
And for crying out loud, a devotion is alone with God not alone with God and an audience!!
Get your priorities right

olas24u:

Your reasoning is terrible,it will take several year to dislodge the shit in your brains.get some exposure outside of you enclave.

There's nothing wrong with my reasoning; rather there's everything wrong with you horribly bigoted reasoning. You speak so much about the "developed world this and the developed world that," but you clearly have no idea how anything works anywhere outside your little enclave. If you're truly experienced in the ways of the developed world as you so claim, you wouldn't be so averse to 'orderliness'.

In the developed climes you talk about, you cant just walk into a freaking hospital and expect to be attended to without an appointment or outside official consultation hours except you have an emergency - The rules are simple, and your ability to follow them without coming to lament online is a simple measure of your level of exposure.

Outside consultation hours, if it is the culture of the clinic or hospital to observe whatever kind of prayer or tradition ritual, it is not your freaking business what they do in their own time. You only have a right to complain if their prayer or break time or whatever it is overlaps your appointment time.

If you have a problem with people practicing their faith, spit it out already and stop beating about the bush trying to teach anyone here about how exposed you are. With your much acclaimed level of exposure, if you still do not know how to respect the the personal time of others and show tolerance, then you're not in anyway better than the unexposed man living in a forest.

obailala:
So because a person is a doctor, they shouldn't have a personal life outside their patients right?... Everything else they do is "USELESS" right?.. If a patient comes outside consultation hours, the doctors and nurses should leave everything else in their lives and attend to a patient who can't stick with a clearly communicated appointment time?

That's why there is a rotation. You have night and morning shifts to create a balance in the lives of medical personnel.

There is nothing like outside consultation hours in an hospital that knows it's worth. Consultation hours is mostly for out patients and those in the wards.
Let's have a scenario here, you are very sick on a Friday and rushed to the hospital only for you to be told ........
Sorry you came after consultation hours. Come back Monday Morning 9am. Thank you. Sir you don't even have an appointment.....
How will that make you feel??

Sikiratu:


That's why there is a rotation. You have night and morning shifts to create a balance in the lives of medical personnel.

There is nothing like outside consultation hours in an hospital that knows it's worth. Consultation hours is mostly for out patients and those in the wards.
Let's have a scenario here, you are very sick on a Friday and rushed to the hospital only for you to be told ........
Sorry you came after consultation hours. Come back Monday Morning 9am. Thank you. Sir you don't even have an appointment.....
How will that make you feel??

Every hospital has consultation hours, just like every other office does. Those doctors and nurses have personal lives too you know. No hospital does GP consultations for 24 hours of the day. All over the world you can't just casually walk into a hospital by 6am and expect to be seen by a doctor; you will only be attended to if you have an emergency.

alizma:
she should enter inside and do the check up by herself na

I tire o.the question did she die?

ONLY TO ASK GOD FOR DIVINE DIRECTION BEFORE ENTERING INTO THEIR WORK FOR THE DAY,THIS DAUGHTER OF JEZEBEL IS COMPLAINING BUT WHEN THEY BEGIN TO TREAT HER CHILD AND DECLARE THE CHILD'S SICKNESS INCURABLE, SHE WILL STARTING CRYING UNTO GOD FOR HELP.

Hospital is neither home nor religious center but a scientific court to analyze and create immediate solution. Turning things upside down as usual in Nigeria. Yet the God has departed or has moved on to a better society.

Do ur devotion at home or at ur religious center before coming to "asibitu". Abeg!

The hospital should start and finish their morning devotion before 7.30 or 8am.
Everything is wisdom. Officially everywhere, offices open by 8am. What stops the hospital from officially opening by 8am too for clients? Is it not business you're praying for?

Jestin:
What is wrong with Nigeria hospitals

Not all hospitals, the thing is that they should have started the devotion earlier enough before patients starts trooping in, what's wrong starting the day's work with God?

if u were to have an appointment with the president and u were told to wait, woman will u be angry answer that question

if u were to have an appointment with the president and u were told to wait, WOMAN will u be angry? answer that question