Gamine:

So it goes International. . .The key to development/change would be to have the world speak a common language (Anyways topic for another day)

For now,

Mass Failure Continua!

Honestly, it would have not been a waste of your time to, at least, take only the NECO English exams to practice the use of your punctuations, sentence spacing  and use of capitals.

Thank God it is Turkey you are going for uni. Maybe such would not be noticeable as I wonder how you will use such in unis in an English speaking, developed country.

Furthermore, you did NOT write WAEC, you sat for WAEC exams or you can also say you undertook WAEC exams. [I really can't stop shaking my head]

People, please vote for me as President of Nigeria, the country needs aggressive help.

xterra2:

Quote from Sagamite
Okay you were complaining about my english (proficiency/grammar/writing?) earlier on, hmmnn
Re-visit it and see some of the bolded parts they are correct
No gbagaun


And
You first line
Honestly, it would have not been a waste of your time to, at least, take only the NECO [/b]English exams to practice the use of your punctuations, sentence spacing  and use of capitals.

Correct but that is nonsense,writ it like this next time:
Honestly,it wouldn't have been a waste of time if you took the english exam to practice the use of bla bla bla

For your information in S[b]AT ,t[/b]he essay[b] i [/b]got 6

If you understood what [b]i wrote then fine and STFU

And oh, keep shaking your head till you catch H[/b]eadache  

And no we wo[b]nt vote for you as p[/b]resident[b] ,w[/b]e do[b]nt want you just stay put wherever you are


I type fast and do[b]nt[/b] bother to check what [b]i [/b]wrote am using a WI-FI

Gamine:

Seen.

The system you talk about, is what is wrong (along with all the so-called benchmarks) If things have only gotten worse on the back of these, I don't know why it's so difficult to see that there should be something different in place.
I honestly can't say it was schooling in this system that taught me English.

Gamine:

I honestly can't say it was schooling in this system that taught me English.

~Bluetooth:

So you expect every nigerians to speak correct english even when the language is a ''FOREIGN'' one ? You should know that cannot be 100% possible and if i may ask do all chinese or French speak good English ?

ada24:

English is not a foreign language in Nigeria it is the lingua franca. the official language of Nigeria is English - God help us that people don't know this.

why do people always argue this - french people don't speak good English cos surprise surprise their official language is french - if u want to do business in France u have to know how to speak both English and french. likewise the Chinese, the German and Spanish etc.


what scares me is how are these failures of today going to cope with the world of tomorrow.

chika98:

As much as I dislike Sagamite. . I must say you do speak/write eloquently which is a great thing.

chika98:

As much as I dislike Sagamite. . I must say you do speak/write eloquently which is a great thing.

Ileke-IdI:

Oh no! Oh dear. If he sees this, his ego will blow up to another 50L

Ileke-IdI:

Oh no! Oh dear. If he sees this, his ego will blow up to another 50L

chika98:

When he isn't bullying folks on the net. He sounds very intelligent if only he will stop announcing it every chance he gets.
Dude we don hear sey you and Queen Elizabeth wine and dine together. Just softly softly and be nice to the unintelligent ones.

Kobojunkie:

No, the problem in this man failed to learn the common language as it applies in the USA.  Each country/region has it's own and the idea is that when you go out to these different regions, it behooves you to learn the common language there. So if you Pidgin English speaking friends want to go beyond pidgin borders, be it to University or working/doing business with firms that require candidates/investors at least have a good grasp of Queen English, it is to the benefit of your friend, that he/she complies or accept rejection.  

texazzpete:

There have to be benchmarks in everything in life. And as long as there are Universities, there MUST be a lowest common denominator in terms of communication. Bending over backwards to take care of the ones that have fallen by the wayside is wrong.

Recall your days in Uni, and try to imagine how awkward it'd have been if half of your class only spoke Hausa language.
Apart from exams like this, what other ways would YOU have Universities test prospective admission candidates for English language communication skills?

However, even for those who didn't have that opportunity to learn much outside the classroom, the curriculum is designed to still teach them English. Right from the Queen Primer and 'Peter and Jane' days to 'Ali and Simbi'. If this isn't happening now, then we need to find out why.
Don't blame it on the curriculum. It's the same one people like you and me used way back. it should be adequate if delivered properly. but it isn't.

Gamine:

But did you assess him as less 'educated' or less able to actually be of value to his community?

I totally understand your points though, but it doesn't hurt considering other options.

Kobojunkie:

Well, considering the standard in the community I live in, he is undereducated as to be considered educated, one has to be able to read, right and communicate effectively.

chika98:

LOL@ the last vid. Funny shet! Well some of em do deserve the bashing sha.

Gamine:

Is it?

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How did all those Asians graduate?! oh my days! ~.~

bidemi12:

sagamite you too funny i swear; no worry i don respect your gangstar

Sagamite:

I hate morons with a religious passion as, in my view, they are the cause/instigators of majority of all the misunderstandings and troubles in the world between people. Through their generalisation, Us vs Them mentality, subjectivity, poor thinking, lack of understanding wider perspectives.

So for morons, I religiously say . . . .

chika98:

The fanaticism in Africa doesn't help either. People fear their pastors more than God himself. Pathetic

Sagamite:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-504283.64.html#msg6659581

martinosi:

All theory no practical,  and how relevant is the
school system exams to real life,

Having said that, i rather have my son/daughter get 8 C'Grades
in Nigeria, than get 8 C's in a USA/Europe school!!!

8 C'Grades in a North American/European school means u suck Big-Time as a Nigerian Student!!!

8 C'Grades from in Nigeria means you are really o.k due to all the marking whahala and other externalities on your exam paper and it also means you are good enuff to go abroad and score Straight A's in an American/European School.

8 A'Grades in Nigeria means you are good enuff to go to America/Europe
and read for Two degress at the same time in Four Year and also make money
on the side working part-time or run your own legit business on the side too lol!!!

martinosi:

[size=15pt]All theory no practical[/size],  and how relevant is the
school system exams to real life,

Having said that, i rather have my son/daughter get 8 C'Grades
in Nigeria, than get 8 C's in a USA/Europe school!!!

8 C'Grades in a North American/European school means u suck Big-Time as a Nigerian Student!!!

8 C'Grades from in Nigeria means you are really o.k due to all the marking whahala and other externalities on your exam paper and it also means you are good enuff to go abroad and score Straight A's in an American/European School.

8 A'Grades in Nigeria means you are good enuff to go to America/Europe
and read for Two degress at the same time in Four Year and also make money
on the side working part-time or run your own legit business on the side too lol!!!

Gamine:

If everything is changing and evolving including English language why should the curriculum be stagnant? why should we be stagnant?

Gamine:

Maybe they are tired of cramming stuff and actually want an education that is relevant to them in this present/future world
Maybe the curriculum is no longer adequate. Besides I never apportioned blame anywhere I only stood on the need for CHANGE.

occam:


Yes The english language may be changing, but the use of tenses, nouns, etc remain the same. Some student still don't grasp this basic concept. English is the international language of business & it's to our advantage that students understand it well.  shold they be taught in pidgin instead? like patua, spoken by west indians and cockney (spoken in london's east end) pidgin will only be used within a specifc region.

martinosi:

All theory no practical,  and how relevant is the
school system exams to real life,

texazzpete:

We're talking about English here. Evolution builds on the old, it does not discard the old. Even if the curriculum remained the same, it should still be adequate.

And we're talking about O'levels here. The need for change from a 'cramming' based system will add more value in the tertiary institutions. And as English is a language that really should be used everyday, as part of our daily lives, it suffers a lot less from the 'cramming' syndrome than any other subject.

If you're taught about punctuations, a good student is supposed to write and use punctuations every day.
Taught about Oral English? Good students are expected to make the effort to pronounce words the way they should be.
Comprehension passages? Deducing answers from our daily conversations should be enough real world practice.

In fact, apart from a few exotic lessons in English, the subject should not suffer from this 'cramming' syndrome at all.

Even Mathematics. It's a subject where practice makes perfect. If the curriculum is properly delivered by good teachers, there is little need to cram at the WAEC level.

martinosi:

Having said that, i rather have my son/daughter get 8 C'Grades
in Nigeria, than get 8 C's in a USA/Europe school!!!

8 C'Grades in a North American/European school means u suck Big-Time as a Nigerian Student!!!

8 C'Grades from in Nigeria means you are really o.k due to all the marking whahala and other externalities on your exam paper and it also means you are good enuff to go abroad and score Straight A's in an American/European School.

8 A'Grades in Nigeria means you are good enuff to go to America/Europe
and read for Two degress at the same time in Four Year and also make money
on the side working part-time or run your own legit business on the side too lol!!!