Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 10:58am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Maximus69:
@Shadeyinka!
Can you please say something about the two questions in bolded Sir? I've closed your case on this thread. Open another one if you really want me to answer your questions. Big God AND Small God!! SMH |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:00am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
That the English Bible translated El Gibboa differently when it applies to humans doesn't change the fact that Humanss were called EL GIBBOA , Which was rendered Mighty God for Jesus . Was El Gibboa applied to humans in the Bible ? Go and do your assignment , Ignorant fellow
But he refffered to Othniel as a SAVIOR of the Isrealites ?
Your problem is you fail to realize he can make others saviour or make them God's as he did humans " Ye are God's " . But all are still under his control therefore none beside him . I've closed your case here. I only responded for you to know I read it. See how you have to speak plenty grammar to defend your two God doctrine? |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:02am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Maximus69:
Mr Shadeyinka,
No be fight nah!
You carry yourself enter inside thread wey wahala question jeje sidon, you no fit answer direct you begin throw impromptu questions up and down. OK answer simple question you wan tek vex hide your face!
Abeg no vex Sir, my own question still tanda for your front.
(A)Shey na true sey first century Christians dem believe exactly the same thing like Jehovah witness today?
(B)Abi each one just carry hin own understanding about Jesus anywhere belle face?
If nah "A" be your answer, abeg show us inside Bible, if na "B" please tell us the group wet get the same mindset as you get now so that we fit ask them better questions as you sef dey ask Jehovah witness wey get one mind for wetin Bible tok!
Abeg no tek vex comot for this one Sir!
Mr two Gods, I have closed your case! No wonder he can't answer a direct question! SMH |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:04am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Or container that houses the " You " ?
And David was buried in the Tomb of.... What was buried? His body or his soul or his spirit? No need to respond. I have close your case? |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:05am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
To help your ignorance , He alone can make others God's and Saviours to suit his purpose .
They are all subjected to him . So Jehovah made other Gods besides himself!!!? Speak another lie! Any way, I have close your case and there is no need to respond! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:07am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Eccl 12:7 Spirit return to God who gave it, DID JESUS RETURN TO HEAVEN that day ?
If not, What exactly is the Spirit that returned to God when Jesus died ?
You see you have no clue what you are into .
Same, Spirit return to God. Did he went to paradise/heaven that day ?
So what returned if Spirit Is NOT JESUS ?
After his ressurection.
Not at all, It only makes us question what exactly returned since Jesus said he himself hasn't yet ascended to the Father . So what is that Spirit that returned to God ? Some people don't know when they are already checkmated! Case closed old! I only responded for you to know I read your post. |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:08am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Remain in your ignorance, So angels can't act as representative of Yahweh ? I repeat! Oh, we now have two Yahwehs, one the Almighty and the other an Angel!!? Continue! Find a way to lie round it again! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:09am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Janosky:
God manifest in the flesh"(KJV)=FRAUD. You rely on the confirmed FRAUD of the KJV "Textus Receptus" to support your Trinity FRAUD. FRAUD+FRAUD=FRAUD. I'm not amazed, triune deity pagans pretending to be Christians.
MORE EVIDENCE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1 Timothy 3:16 Parallel Verses **** 1 Timothy 3:16, NIV : "Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory." ##### 1 Timothy 3:16, ESV : "Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory." +++++ 1 Timothy 3:16, KJV: "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." ***** 1 Timothy 3:16, NASB: "By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory." ####* 1 Timothy 3:16, NLT : "Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and taken to heaven in glory." $$$**** 1 Timothy 3:16, CSB : "And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory."
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"--Here, in the most ancient authorities, the word "God" does not occur. We must, then, literally translate the Greek of the most famous and trustworthy MSS. as follows: He who was manifested in the flesh. " "God manifest in the flesh"(KJV)=FRAUD. In multitudes of words their lies are sprinkled! I've closed my case! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:11am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
He was put to death in the flesh [as human being] but made ALIVE [ Resurrected] in the spirit [Spirit being] , and in this state [ been made alive/Resurrected ] he went and preached to the spirits [ angelic spirit beings ] in prison " 1Pet 3:18,19
After he was " Made Alive" Resurrected as a Spirit being . That scripture is clear enough So Jesus spirit was made alive AND he went to preach to other spirits BUT Human spirit remain DEAD! Continue! I've closed my case, no need to respond! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:15am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Janosky:
*** Judges 6:11-23 11 And an angel of Jehovah came and sat under the terebinth that was in Ophrah, that [belonged] to Joash the Abi-ezrite. And his son Gideon threshed wheat in the winepress, to secure [it] from the Midianites. 12 And the Angel of Jehovah appeared to him, and said to him, Jehovah is with thee, thou mighty man of valour. 13 And Gideon said to him, Ah my Lord, if Jehovah be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where are all his miracles that our fathers told us of, saying, Did not Jehovah bring us up from Egypt? And now Jehovah hath cast us off, and given us into the hand of Midian. 14 And Jehovah looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of Midian. Have not I sent thee? 15 And he said to him, Ah Lord, wherewith shall I save Israel? behold, my thousand is the poorest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father's house. 16 And Jehovah said to him, I will certainly be with thee; and thou shalt smite Midian as one man. 17 And he said to him, If now I have found favour in thine eyes, shew me a sign that it is thou who talkest with me. 18 Depart not hence, I pray thee, until I come unto thee, and bring forth my present, and set it before thee. And he said, I will tarry until thou come again. 19 And Gideon went in, and made ready a kid of the goats, and an ephah of flour in unleavened cakes: the flesh he put in a basket, and he put the broth in a pot, and brought it out to him under the terebinth, and presented it. 20 And the Angel of God said to him, Take the flesh and the unleavened cakes, and lay them upon this rock, and pour out the broth. And he did so. 21 And the Angel of Jehovah put forth the end of the staff that was in his hand, and touched the flesh and the unleavened cakes; and there rose up fire out of the rock, and consumed the flesh and the unleavened cakes. And the Angel of Jehovah departed out of his sight. 22 And Gideon perceived that he was an angel of Jehovah; and Gideon said, Alas, Lord Jehovah! for because I have seen an angel of Jehovah face to face … 23 And Jehovah said to him, Peace be unto thee: fear not; thou shalt not die."
** Compare Judges 13:2-22. If Jehovah can take the form of an angel (for no man can see Jehovah and live) it was impossible for Jehovah to take the form of a mortal man (Jesus). Checkmate! I am sure you can't still see it! But case closed! I have made my point till another thread! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 11:16am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
So Jesus spirit was made alive AND he went to preach to other spirits BUT Human spirit remain DEAD! Continue!
I've closed my case, no need to respond! For something to be made alive, it must have been dead, are you insinuating Jesus spirit dies ? Confusing spirit being with ordinary spirit . Olodo |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 11:18am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
Some people don't know when they are already checkmated!
Case closed old! I only responded for you to know I read your post. Eccl 12:7 SPIRIT RETURN TO GOD . DiD Jesus return to God the day he dies ? Luke 23:46. Prove your position that human spirit is a personality |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:19am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Brilliant ! The angel was referred to as Jehovah @ bold
cc: shadeyinka . Brilliant! I addressed the chief accountant of Dangote as Dangote himself and He didn't correct me!? An angel has the audacity to answer for Jehovah and recieve worship!? Common sense still doesn't tell you that Jehovah can appear as an angel or a man: and recieve obeisance and worship due to Himself alone! Checkmate and case closed. No need to respond! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 11:20am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
And David was buried in the Tomb of....
What was buried? His body or his soul or his spirit?
No need to respond. I have close your case? Is the Body the person or a container ? You once said physical body is a container. how then can you say the container is You. container is just a shelter So ordinary container dies not Jesus ? |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 11:21am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
Brilliant! I addressed the chief accountant of Dangote as Dangote himself and He didn't correct me!? An angel has the audacity to answer for Jehovah and recieve worship!?
Common sense still doesn't tell you that Jehovah can appear as an angel or a man: and recieve obeisance and worship due to Himself alone!
Checkmate and case closed. No need to respond! So Jehovah is now an angel ( messenger ) ? |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 11:22am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
So Jehovah made other Gods besides himself!!!?
Speak another lie! Any way, I have close your case and there is no need to respond! Who said " Ye are Gods " ? Who called Othniel a SAVIOR of Isreal ? If you dont understand something ask, Its everywhere in the scriptures, God making others God and Savior . BUT ALL are still under his control , including Christ . ( 1 Cor 15:27) |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Nobody: 11:23am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
So Jehovah made other Gods besides himself!!!?
Speak another lie! Any way, I have close your case and there is no need to respond! You have closed all the cases with God's faithful servants who have THE SAME LINE OF THOUGHT because ~ You can't point out from your copy of the Bible that first century Christians have different conclusions regarding sacred matters! and the worst thing You belong to a religious organization whose beliefs you can't even vouch for publicly!My friend, go and meditate on what's written in the Bible book of Psalm 1:1-2 "Blessed is the man who walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord and in his law doth he meditate day and night" KJVPlease if those you're worshiping with aren't having the same line of thought as you do regarding God's viewpoint on sacred issues, that could only mean either you are the one refusing to yield to God's holy spirit or YOU'RE NOT WORSHIPING IN THE RIGHT PLACE!So according to God's word, YOU ARE NOT BLESSED BUT CURSED! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by shadeyinka(m): 11:30am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Maximus69:
After answering him from the Bible, he crookedly attached my position on the issue to a religious organization.
So the question he must answer ~
(1) Were first century Christians peculiar to uniform in thought?
If Shadeyinka answer "NO" he should back his answer with Bible, if "YES" then he tell everyone in the forum the name of his religious organization exhibiting the same line of thought as he does! Deceptive human being of two Gods! Yahweh said there is NO God/gods besides me!You have manufactured a Junior God! A sub-God contrary to the scriptures. Scriptures cannot be clearer! Isa 44:8: "Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? you are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yes, there is no God; I know not any."Isa 45:5: "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded you, though you have not known me:" Isa 45:21: "Tell you, and bring them near; yes, let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? who has told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me."Hos 13:4: "Yet I am the LORD your God from the land of Egypt, and you shall know no god but me: for there is no savior beside me."But you have manufactured God 1=the Almighty God God 2= the Mighty God Checkmate and case closed! No need to respond! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
Brilliant! I addressed the chief accountant of Dangote as Dangote himself and He didn't correct me!? An angel has the audacity to answer for Jehovah and recieve worship!?
Common sense still doesn't tell you that Jehovah can appear as an angel or a man: and recieve obeisance and worship due to Himself alone!
Checkmate and case closed. No need to respond! If Dangote send a delegate to REPRESENT him in any occasion, please whatever he says there or whatever you do to him should be addressed to who? Perhaps the delegate i guess and not to Dangote whose presence is REPRESENTED? My friend you're a confused dullard, Excuse Sir, E ponú díè Sir, Olódo ni yín Sir! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Nobody: 11:34am On Dec 14, 2019 |
shadeyinka:
Deceptive human being of two Gods! Yahweh said there is NO God/gods besides me!
You have manufactured a Junior God! A sub-God contrary to the scriptures.
Scriptures cannot be clearer!
Isa 44:8: "Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? you are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yes, there is no God; I know not any."
Isa 45:5: "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded you, though you have not known me:"
Isa 45:21: "Tell you, and bring them near; yes, let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? who has told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me."
Hos 13:4: "Yet I am the LORD your God from the land of Egypt, and you shall know no god but me: for there is no savior beside me."
But you have manufactured God 1=the Almighty God God 2= the Mighty God
Checkmate and case closed! No need to respond!
It's not Jehovah's Witnesses who wrote the Bible in your hand nah! Just quote where Jesus was addressed as the Almighty God, or remove where the Bible said " "ye are Gods" in your copy of the Bible period! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Nobody: 11:41am On Dec 14, 2019 |
When God made Moses God before Pharaoh. Exodus 7:1 Who was appearing before Pharaoh? Exodus 10:3 But who was Pharaoh directing his petitions for mercy to? Exodus 9:27-29 Mr Shadeyinka, you're a confused dullard Sir! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Perfectbeing(m): 2:07pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Maximus69:
Michael (Jesus) has often represented JEHOVAH in many cases, that's why Apostle John could say "in the beginning WAS the word (Jesus/Michael) and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"
All the times the Bible say JEHOVAH appeared to anyone in the Hebrew Scriptures, it was Jehovah's representative Michael (Jesus) that has been acting in place of JEHOVAH!
The first time JEHOVAH dealt DIRECTLY with humans again was after Jesus (Michael) has completed the reconciliation assignment in heaven that JEHOVAH directly adopted humans and anointed them as his children just as he did at Jesus' baptism! Luke 3:22 compared to Isaiah 42:1
Before Pentecost, God wasn't dealing directly with any of Adam's descendants, it was his foremost Prince Michael that was ACTING stand up for obedient humans! Daniel 12:1
But Michael (Jesus) has no right to punish any of God's spirit sons unless the order comes from JEHOVAH the father of all creations! Jude 9 compared to Matthew 8:29
So JEHOVAH the Almighty God will first give the order before Jesus (Jehovah's Mighty spirit son) can do anything with Jehovah's children be it rebellious angels or humans {Psalms 110:1-3} the order must come from the Almighty God JEHOVAH! [b] Maximus69:
Michael (Jesus) has often represented JEHOVAH in many cases, that's why Apostle John could say "in the beginning WAS the word (Jesus/Michael) and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"
All the times the Bible say JEHOVAH appeared to anyone in the Hebrew Scriptures, it was Jehovah's representative Michael (Jesus) that has been acting in place of JEHOVAH!
The first time JEHOVAH dealt DIRECTLY with humans again was after Jesus (Michael) has completed the reconciliation assignment in heaven that JEHOVAH directly adopted humans and anointed them as his children just as he did at Jesus' baptism! Luke 3:22 compared to Isaiah 42:1
Before Pentecost, God wasn't dealing directly with any of Adam's descendants, it was his foremost Prince Michael that was ACTING stand up for obedient humans! Daniel 12:1
But Michael (Jesus) has no right to punish any of God's spirit sons unless the order comes from JEHOVAH the father of all creations! Jude 9 compared to Matthew 8:29
So JEHOVAH the Almighty God will first give the order before Jesus (Jehovah's Mighty spirit son) can do anything with Jehovah's children be it rebellious angels or humans {Psalms 110:1-3} the order must come from the Almighty God JEHOVAH! [/b] Maximus69:
Michael (Jesus) has often represented JEHOVAH in many cases, that's why Apostle John could say "in the beginning WAS the word (Jesus/Michael) and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"
All the times the Bible say JEHOVAH appeared to anyone in the Hebrew Scriptures, it was Jehovah's representative Michael (Jesus) that has been acting in place of JEHOVAH!
The first time JEHOVAH dealt DIRECTLY with humans again was after Jesus (Michael) has completed the reconciliation assignment in heaven that JEHOVAH directly adopted humans and anointed them as his children just as he did at Jesus' baptism! Luke 3:22 compared to Isaiah 42:1
Before Pentecost, God wasn't dealing directly with any of Adam's descendants, it was his foremost Prince Michael that was ACTING stand up for obedient humans! Daniel 12:1
But Michael (Jesus) has no right to punish any of God's spirit sons unless the order comes from JEHOVAH the father of all creations! Jude 9 compared to Matthew 8:29
So JEHOVAH the Almighty God will first give the order before Jesus (Jehovah's Mighty spirit son) can do anything with Jehovah's children be it rebellious angels or humans {Psalms 110:1-3} the order must come from the Almighty God JEHOVAH! Did God ordered to Angel Gabriel to make Zachariah (father of John the baptist) mute? |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by chrmn1: 2:39pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Philippians 2:9 clear. Also note this Jesus can't do anything of his own will.
So that text is clear enough when it says " Written " . With exemption of he who writes or gave the name
Was there any exception at Matthew 24:36 ? None!!! Any other person knowing makes Jesus a liar, Did he lied only the Father knows ?
In Phil 2:9 the name is known to all I.e. Jesus. This is not the name that was refered to in revelations which NOBODY KNOWS BUT HIMSELF. There was no exception in Matthew and there was no exception also in Revelations. Jesus the man was made to be subject to the Will of the Father. |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by chrmn1: 2:43pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
CAPTIVATOR:
English language is not hard, is it ? When he said my servant , whom I have chosen . Is that futuristic ? When was Jesus CHOSEN for redemption , on Earth ? He was chosen before He came to earth (past) but no matter how far back he was chosen, that event was preceded by His glory state which was also a spiritual reality. If Jesus was always a servant there would be no need for him to be transformed to the form of a servant. |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 2:50pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
chrmn1:
In Phil 2:9 the name is known to all I.e. Jesus. This is not the name that was refered to in revelations which NOBODY KNOWS BUT HIMSELF.
There was no exception in Matthew and there was no exception also in Revelations.
Jesus the man was made to be subject to the Will of the Father. Read Revelation 1:1 God the Father gave Jesus all the things said in Revelation. So the name that was written was given by the Father . As Jesus said the son can do nothing of his own will . THE WRITER/NAME GIVER is exempted .
At Matthew 24:36 there is no exception, either it's only the Father or Jesus lied. He again told his apostles the day and hour is only in the Father authority . TWO TIMES. No exception here 1 Like |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by chrmn1: 3:10pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Read Revelation 1:1 God the Father gave Jesus all the things said in Revelation. So the name that was written was given by the Father . As Jesus said the son can do nothing of his own will . THE WRITER/NAME GIVER is exempted .
At Matthew 24:36 there is no exception, either it's only the Father or Jesus lied. He again told his apostles the day and hour is only in the Father authority . TWO TIMES. No exception here The passage in Revelations has no exception too. It doesn't say that hhimself knew except his Father. "Only himself" is "Only himself" If God revealed everything to Jesus including an event where Jesus had a name written on his head which NOBODY knows except JESUS HIMSELF, if you take Matthew 24 at face value you have to take this at face value too. What you are doing in Revelations is that you are interpreting a clear statement in the light of the entire scriptures which is the right thing to do but when we try to do same in matthew 24 you insist on face value. If the Spirit has access to the thoughts of God then what could be hidden from Him? If that passage in Matthew had mentioned that even the Spirit doesn't know, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. See 1 Cor 2 mentions that what your spirit is to you is what the Holy Spirit is to God. Here is the difference between you and God: No man knows the things of a man except the spirit WHICH IS IN MAN. Similarly no one knows the things of God excpet the Spirit of God. Note that when the scripture was talking about the man, it mentions that the spirit is IN man but not so for God. Here is the difference. |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Perfectbeing:
Did God ordered to Angel Gabriel to make Zachariah (father of John the baptist) mute? YES nah! Zachariah doubted God's word delivered by an angel of God. No human can approached that place and live so Zachariah supposed to know that the only reason for this man to be there is because he is supernatural (angel from God) So for him to doubt means he insulted that position HIGH PRIEST to whom all Israel should look for guidance from God! That's punishment directly from the Almighty God, Gabriel is serving as a mouthpiece at that point in time Sir! The same happened to Jonah, doubting God's ability to protect him in Nineveh! Angels (loyal ones) have no right to touch humans if they weren't granted the go ahead to do so! But demons already know that they're doomed so they don't bother anymore, what they're waiting for now is the destruction that's coming upon rebellious intelligent creatures! |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 3:52pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
chrmn1:
The passage in Revelations has no exception too. It doesn't say that hhimself knew except his Father. "Only himself" is "Only himself"
If God revealed everything to Jesus including an event where Jesus had a name written on his head which NOBODY knows except JESUS HIMSELF, if you take Matthew 24 at face value you have to take this at face value too. What you are doing in Revelations is that you are interpreting a clear statement in the light of the entire scriptures which is the right thing to do but when we try to do same in matthew 24 you insist on face value.
If the Spirit has access to the thoughts of God then what could be hidden from Him?
If that passage in Matthew had mentioned that even the Spirit doesn't know, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. See 1 Cor 2 mentions that what your spirit is to you is what the Holy Spirit is to God. Here is the difference between you and God: No man knows the things of a man except the spirit WHICH IS IN MAN. Similarly no one knows the things of God excpet the Spirit of God.
Note that when the scripture was talking about the man, it mentions that the spirit is IN man but not so for God. Here is the difference. Do you know that the spirit of man is not a separate person ? Just for you too see further reason why only the Father at Matthew 24:36 has no exception 1 Like |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by chrmn1: 4:27pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Barristter07:
Do you know that the spirit of man is not a separate person ? Just for you too see further reason why only the Father at Matthew 24:36 has no exception that's what I've been trying to say. The truine nature of man reflects God but not totally. The spirit of man is in man but the Spirit of God may be on the earth whilst the Father is in heaven. |
Re: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Barristter07: 4:35pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
chrmn1:
that's what I've been trying to say. The truine nature of man reflects God but not totally. The spirit of man is in man but the Spirit of God may be on the earth whilst the Father is in heaven. You don't get? Spirit of man is not a person. Likewise Spirit of God , thats why Jesus said Only the Father knows. It's not a person. 1 Like |
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