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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by pre4drums: 2:00pm On Oct 15, 2019
baiaon:
His style of football is boring and he is a white european

Please have a dislike for racism....It's not in our blood as Nigerians.

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Nobody: 2:11pm On Oct 15, 2019
Mehn me I tire o
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by OVIHINNO(m): 2:21pm On Oct 15, 2019
I disagree with the OP in entirety. You don't assume Nigerians dislike him because of some few dissenting voices. We LOVE ROHR

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Nobody: 2:22pm On Oct 15, 2019
yazga:
For a record eighth time in their history, Nigeria came away from an African Nations Cup campaign brandishing bronze medals around their necks. It is not just a record for Nigeria, but also for the tournament. No other country has more third-place finishes in the history of the competition. Super Eagles should have done better than bronze with the quality of talent at their disposal, believing the team was held back by a conservative coach.

There is no "one size fits all" solution, but Gernot Rohr's position be the major issue of concern?

Gernot Rohr's "lack of tactical nous" or, in other words, an "inability to read matches".

That comparison loses some steam in the face of context. Keshi had an almost ready-made squad with just a few additions to be made. Rohr has had to build his squad from the ground up.

Keshi's knockout stage opposition in 2013 was Ivory Coast, Mali and Burkina Faso. Rohr had to battle against Cameroon, South Africa and Algeria, were taken within seconds of extra-time by the 2019 Super Eagles.

Nigeria have had six coaching changes in the past five years. Samson Siasia, Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Siasia again in a stand-in capacity, Salisu Yusuf (also in a temporary capacity) and then Rohr.

Oliseh aside -- he resigned due to issues with the NFF -- the rest have been fired. And the same story goes back even further.

Clemens Westerhof, is one of Nigeria's greatest coaches, was hounded out and did not even bother to return home with the team after they were eliminated from the 1994 World Cup. His former assistant, Jo Bonfrere, who won the 1996 Olympic gold medal with the under-23 team, was fired as Super Eagles coach. Philippe Troussier was fired. Amodu Shaibu was fired multiple times, despite qualifying Nigeria for two World Cups. Christian Chukwu was fired. Austin Eguavoen was replaced by Berti Vogts, who ended up being hounded out. Same with Swede Lars Lagerback, who opted not to renew his contract with the NFF after the 2010 World Cup. It is a long, unending cycle of celebrating new appointments, then bemoaning their (in)competence before sending them on their merry way.

This unending coaching merry-go-round seems to mask -- however unintentionally -- the real issue. That the complete grassroots development of Nigerian football has been, and continues to be, totally ignored. There are no articulated programs to scout, identify, develop and train talent from a young age. No structured tournaments for children to take part in. No playing philosophy, nothing beyond a hit-and-miss approach relying on an entitled "we have abundant talents" narrative. It's an approach that relies on said talents flocking off to Europe before being called into the Super Eagles, or, even worse, the cadet teams.

The domestic league, which should provide a conveyor belt of ready-made talent, is running on life support, as club administrators push back against much-needed reforms.

As it stands, two influential players retired after Afcon: Captain John Obi Mikel and forward Odion Ighalo; John Ogu may have been a bit part player, but he is also almost certainly looking at the door.

Goalkeeping remains a major issue. Nigeria have struggled in that department since the departure of Vincent Enyeama. Francis Uzoho showed some stability at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, but was shaky after. Ikechukwu Ezenwa is in his 30s, and rarely gets playing time in the Nigerian domestic league, and Daniel Akpeyi does not inspire confidence among the fans. Some say even among the coaches.

Nigeria can sack Rohr now or hound him out. But precedent has shown they are unable to attract any real big-name coaches. The ones they do attract, they take months just to hire. When a coach is eventually hired, whoever he is, what is the guarantee he will spend more than two or three years before being hounded out like others before?

And after poppling around in a fresh hire-celebrate-hound-fire cycle, the country returns once again to blaming the coach for another campaign that fails to meet entitled expectations, expectations without a grounding in fundamentals.

Rather than debating whether or not to fire a coach who has done more than most since Westerhof in 1989 to reboot the national team, conversation should be focused instead in a different direction.

How to reset the entire national football ecosystem in a manner that begins to produce and develop talent deliberately and consistently, one that will eventually lead to a playing philosophy that takes advantage of the in-bred self-expression of the Nigerian footballer as well as their natural physical attributes.

Source: Goal.com
I know u you copied this by the quote.. But after reading this.. Am not going to read any post on this matter..

Nigeria is built on self destruct.. They would never value anything good since they are fond of failure.

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Austineva(m): 2:22pm On Oct 15, 2019
Who and who? I like him o abeg
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by ehix89(m): 2:31pm On Oct 15, 2019
anjilgreat:


Yes, he did but I personally felt that it was quite late. That game was a friendly match and an opportunity to try out different players.
True

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by worldclass68(m): 2:33pm On Oct 15, 2019
I'm not one of them that dislike him, only one thing I want him to change is of him introducing a player like Onuachu when only what we rely on is counter attack....... that's an obvious error, don't know why he's not seeing that too.

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by cheelrix: 2:35pm On Oct 15, 2019
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Dreamville: 2:38pm On Oct 15, 2019
Skseries:
because he is more if a scout than a tactical coach
you nailed it bro.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by DarkJeddi(m): 2:49pm On Oct 15, 2019
VillageHead:
He has over stayed his welcome.

The gods have written him off. He should be relieved off his job.

Amoju Pinnick and co take upper hand in decision makings.


Only an indigenous coach will take Nigerian football to a higher height. Believe it or not.
And the multitude of Indigenous Coaches we have had over the past years,where did most of them take us?

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by middlebelter(m): 2:50pm On Oct 15, 2019
Your question is misleading. How are you sure Nigerians does not like him? What is or are the bases of your conclusion and I know that many Nigerians like him.

Perhaps you should re frame your question this way; why did Nigerians like Gernot Rohr .
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by ubcandid(m): 2:51pm On Oct 15, 2019
OLAJADON:

onuachu shouldn't be playing ball at all

Check his stats for his clubs in Europe.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by DarkJeddi(m): 2:54pm On Oct 15, 2019
boninho:

Ambition is everything. If NFF wants to fully take advantage of this talented set of players and set Africa and the world alight, then he should be thanked and relieved of his duties. But if they are comfortable with decent results, great ones once in a while playing uninspiring football, then he can stay
The ones that have been Coaching us over the years what did they do?

You talk about great talents?

The talents he discovered and is nurturing right?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by deedeemob(m): 2:58pm On Oct 15, 2019
Best thing ive read ever concernig the way we as a footballing nation got to this mess we have experienced and still experiencing, permit me to say that gernot rohr is a gud scout no doubt but a less pay in-match tactician. Nevertheless if anybody is out there clamouring for his sack then the person should try and look into NFF's past dealing with coaches and he/She would understand that rohr is just right for us at the moment albeit he should try and understudy some tactical acumen from people like pep,klopp,mourinho(before he lost it) And also Johann cruyff when at barca. And trust me we will be celebrating our best ever coach soon. God bless the Eagles. And punish the politics playing idiots in the once glamorous glass house. Thanks.
yazga:
For a record eighth time in their history, Nigeria came away from an African Nations Cup campaign brandishing bronze medals around their necks. It is not just a record for Nigeria, but also for the tournament. No other country has more third-place finishes in the history of the competition. Super Eagles should have done better than bronze with the quality of talent at their disposal, believing the team was held back by a conservative coach.

There is no "one size fits all" solution, but Gernot Rohr's position be the major issue of concern?

Gernot Rohr's "lack of tactical nous" or, in other words, an "inability to read matches".

That comparison loses some steam in the face of context. Keshi had an almost ready-made squad with just a few additions to be made. Rohr has had to build his squad from the ground up.

Keshi's knockout stage opposition in 2013 was Ivory Coast, Mali and Burkina Faso. Rohr had to battle against Cameroon, South Africa and Algeria, were taken within seconds of extra-time by the 2019 Super Eagles.

Nigeria have had six coaching changes in the past five years. Samson Siasia, Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Siasia again in a stand-in capacity, Salisu Yusuf (also in a temporary capacity) and then Rohr.

Oliseh aside -- he resigned due to issues with the NFF -- the rest have been fired. And the same story goes back even further.

Clemens Westerhof, is one of Nigeria's greatest coaches, was hounded out and did not even bother to return home with the team after they were eliminated from the 1994 World Cup. His former assistant, Jo Bonfrere, who won the 1996 Olympic gold medal with the under-23 team, was fired as Super Eagles coach. Philippe Troussier was fired. Amodu Shaibu was fired multiple times, despite qualifying Nigeria for two World Cups. Christian Chukwu was fired. Austin Eguavoen was replaced by Berti Vogts, who ended up being hounded out. Same with Swede Lars Lagerback, who opted not to renew his contract with the NFF after the 2010 World Cup. It is a long, unending cycle of celebrating new appointments, then bemoaning their (in)competence before sending them on their merry way.

This unending coaching merry-go-round seems to mask -- however unintentionally -- the real issue. That the complete grassroots development of Nigerian football has been, and continues to be, totally ignored. There are no articulated programs to scout, identify, develop and train talent from a young age. No structured tournaments for children to take part in. No playing philosophy, nothing beyond a hit-and-miss approach relying on an entitled "we have abundant talents" narrative. It's an approach that relies on said talents flocking off to Europe before being called into the Super Eagles, or, even worse, the cadet teams.

The domestic league, which should provide a conveyor belt of ready-made talent, is running on life support, as club administrators push back against much-needed reforms.

As it stands, two influential players retired after Afcon: Captain John Obi Mikel and forward Odion Ighalo; John Ogu may have been a bit part player, but he is also almost certainly looking at the door.

Goalkeeping remains a major issue. Nigeria have struggled in that department since the departure of Vincent Enyeama. Francis Uzoho showed some stability at the 2018 World Cup in Russia, but was shaky after. Ikechukwu Ezenwa is in his 30s, and rarely gets playing time in the Nigerian domestic league, and Daniel Akpeyi does not inspire confidence among the fans. Some say even among the coaches.

Nigeria can sack Rohr now or hound him out. But precedent has shown they are unable to attract any real big-name coaches. The ones they do attract, they take months just to hire. When a coach is eventually hired, whoever he is, what is the guarantee he will spend more than two or three years before being hounded out like others before?

And after poppling around in a fresh hire-celebrate-hound-fire cycle, the country returns once again to blaming the coach for another campaign that fails to meet entitled expectations, expectations without a grounding in fundamentals.

Rather than debating whether or not to fire a coach who has done more than most since Westerhof in 1989 to reboot the national team, conversation should be focused instead in a different direction.

How to reset the entire national football ecosystem in a manner that begins to produce and develop talent deliberately and consistently, one that will eventually lead to a playing philosophy that takes advantage of the in-bred self-expression of the Nigerian footballer as well as their natural physical attributes.

Source: Goal.com

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by kenzysmith: 3:02pm On Oct 15, 2019
LZAA:

If u believe rohr scouted any of those boys u must be joking
He just logged on to the net and checked players with Nigerian heritage and gave them call ups
That was the norm until keshi came and stopped that nonsense although he later gave caps to some questionable players
Rohr has no business coaching nigeria
ok who should we appoint?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Nobody: 3:03pm On Oct 15, 2019
kenzysmith:
Good day fellow nigerians i have come to realize that genort rohr have come to sentimental critizing from most nigerians since he got the job. For me genort rohr has done well he is building a strong squad for the future we don't have players from real madrid' psg,liverpool or bacerlona. So we don't expect to be winning every matches where as this is friendly and is not a must win sitiuation is an avenue for testing new players . Buh for us to draw with brazil is a big plus for us. For the ist time players are been picked base on form not name which is a welcome development for us. Constructive critism is welcome not setimental critism due to ur clamour for a local coach. With Genort rohr i see nigerian football moving to the next level.
...a coach that doesn't know when to make substitution.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by kenzysmith: 3:03pm On Oct 15, 2019
alasane:
He is tactically weak.. when to sub,how to used the the sub and method of attack.......he do not have a define method to win game
should he be fire?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by baratech: 3:06pm On Oct 15, 2019
I like him, his tactics, and the players he calls up.... He doesn't do sentiments... And he's doing a very good job....

But most Nigerians never appreciate the good things they have... That's why they always complain about everything he does
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Beat123(f): 3:09pm On Oct 15, 2019
VillageHead:
He has over stayed his welcome.

The gods have written him off. He should be relieved off his job.

Amoju Pinnick and co take upper hand in decision makings.


Only an indigenous coach will take Nigerian football to a higher height. Believe it or not.
nigerians always believe they can handle anything! Put them in management then you see corruption! Unethical practices. And all sorts.

Look at the oil sector! It’s in ruins since we took over management
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by prinxwizard(m): 3:20pm On Oct 15, 2019
Rohr is tactically void. What's Onuachu's business with the national team?
Why is he always waiting for 80 minutes before making changes even in a friendly game that's supposed to be ground for testing new players?
He is just a scout!
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by boninho: 3:23pm On Oct 15, 2019
DarkJeddi:
The ones that have been Coaching us over the years what did they do?

You talk about great talents?

The talents he discovered and is nurturing right?
That's the mentality we are talking about. So if he discovered talents and over time they are not fully maximized, he should still remain just because he discovered them.... football is about progressiveness. He has performed reasonably, it's appreciated but we have to keep moving forward and the fact is hes not innovative and tactically sound enough to orchestrate that next step

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by adetes: 3:32pm On Oct 15, 2019
His tactical approach does not v any positive impact
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Nobody: 3:43pm On Oct 15, 2019
VillageHead:
He has over stayed his welcome.

The gods have written him off. He should be relieved off his job.

Amoju Pinnick and co take upper hand in decision makings.


Only an indigenous coach will take Nigerian football to a higher height. Believe it or not.
How many indigeneous coaches have u sacked before this new coach?
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by quickly: 3:49pm On Oct 15, 2019
In a few years if they leave this guy till after the world cup . this team will be better than 94 set.


Jurgi low of germany won world cup in 14 , crashed out of 1st round in 18 . if it was nigeria them for sack am.

Gra Gra with no planning.

Westerhoff started in 89 -94

He took 4 years to get to 94 level
in nations cup
90- did not qualify for world cup in italia
90-they were walloped 5-1 by algeria in AFCON -ended up with silver
92- bronze AFCON -
94- gold AFCON -
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by LZAA: 4:00pm On Oct 15, 2019
kenzysmith:
ok who should we appoint?
A sound dutch coach
All these mechanics from Europe no be am
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by quickly: 4:01pm On Oct 15, 2019
oghenerobo91:

How many indigeneous coaches have u sacked before this new coach?

Siasia
Equaveon
KEshi
Oliseh
Amodu

them plenti

nigerian coaches na to dey collect bribe dem sabi
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Caseless: 4:02pm On Oct 15, 2019
Dobson43:
This is because Nigerians need an avenue to vent their furstrations. Example we complain about everything....bbnajia, buhari, apc, pdp, girlfriends, man friends. I dare say it's in you like peak but in this case us.


The gaffer does not come across as a person that knows his onions. He doesn't actually inspire confidence.

His tinkerings can be annoying.

But it's a change from the status quo of choosing players based on quota as against form. Yes he is a scout. But what is he supposed to be? With the abundance of players at his disposal, he should be.

The powers that be that influences choice of players have apparently lost their voice.

So why is he critised. I will tell you this: his game management sucks. He is tactically inept, cant read the games and make the necessary calls in terms of shoring defense or marshalling out the right subs. Our players shine due to individual performances. How can you be leading and you can't close shop. We were 2goals up with Ukraine and yet we conceded annoying goals. The same script replayed with Brazil.

He is trying but I guess people are getting fed up with that script of rebuilding.
spot-on!

He just can't read games and bad at making substitution, and even if he does, it's at the wrong time.

He's averagely good.

I'd prefer Reinhardt of Morocco.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Skseries: 4:21pm On Oct 15, 2019
Adakintroy2:


Every coach needs quality to interpret their tactics clear. Just like every engineer needs quality materials to bring out the good in his work. Right now this is not exactly our golden age in football am afraid to say. One of our current best (iwobi) was recently related to everton. Speaks volume for the quality we have at our disposal.

For me he is doing is best upgrading the team at every opportunity. Attacking midfield needs a mestro. Left back/ Main attack with ageing ighalo. I think we should let him do his job.

Local coach will collect dollars from the highest bidder. Right now many are hungry to come play for the national team. I feel proud. Unlike before when the yakubu felt they were doing us a favor honoring national call ups.
u just making excuses for him, at the world cup, against Argentina we started with a 3-5-2 then after second half we scored a goal, all we needed was a draw, it was very obvious Brian idowu was tired and it was obvious alot if the attack was from his wing, meaning the argentines were exploiting it for his weakness, we had a coach who sat at the side line, 7mins to go with zero substitute, zero tactical adjustment, zero formation adjustment. Argentina already added 2fresh legs and our coach didn't feel the need to add to the back line, so they scored and he brought in 4 players with 4mins to go, Biko was it needed again?
Nation cup, we played a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 till that semi final match, majorly relying on our wing players, and this worked bcus the opposition defence were over lapping, the Algeria team had a team whose backline doesn't over lap, and the yeye coach went in there with the same game plan wing play that weren't working, and all Tru we played same way trying things that was not working... Friendly with Brazil, we entered the game with much respect for them so we sat back, we got the first clear chance and it was obvious we could play ball with them and win, and we later got the goal, the goal made Brazil attack more and we begin to seat too deep, the coach sat at the touch line and couldn't ask the guys to attack and not seat back, a coach shud know his team strength and weakness, ours is attack and defense respectively. We all know the best form of defense is attack, we luckily went a goal up to second half, we came back and begin to seat back again and the coach again, Brazil made a change and the game change completely, they got a goal our coach didn't feel the need to change till 72min and his first change was a forced substitute.

He finally decided to change and he brought him a slow player, it was obvious our problem wasn't the attack but midfield, attackers won't score if they don't get the ball, iwobi was barely doing much,

Rhor doesn't go into game with a backup tactics, and he isn't flexible neither does he take risk.

He said ezenwa is 2nd choice but he couldn't start him yesterday, said he is game rusty, so why does he take me to games? U invite players and won't use them. We have a fantastic team and player pool, all we need is a good coach.

What is working for him is individual ability of there players.

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Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by maxiflexy(m): 4:23pm On Oct 15, 2019
If Rohr is not sack before the FIFA 2022 World cup qualifiers begin, Nigerians will have to settle to watching other nations on display in Qatar
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by Liberated: 4:29pm On Oct 15, 2019
Only you know how you arrived @ "MAJORITY OF NIGERIANS" As for yours sincerely the man Genort Rohr is liked by REAL NIGERIANS who are seeing the gradual n systematic upgrade in our national team. God bless the man for his commitment to improving the Super Eagles.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by kenzysmith: 4:33pm On Oct 15, 2019
LZAA:

A sound dutch coach
All these mechanics from Europe no be am
lol name 3 compentent sound dutch coach abeg.
Re: Why Do Nigerians Dislike Genort Rohr by LZAA: 4:40pm On Oct 15, 2019
kenzysmith:
lol name 3 compentent sound dutch coach abeg.
Frank de boer
Wim jonk
Tscheu la ling
All three would gladly jump at the chance to coach nigeria
I would have called dennis bergkamp but he does not travel
There are better coaches than rohr but sadly nff greed will always make them choose the cheap option

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