oyinda.:

one thing you have to consider is that to be unemployed in Nigeria is a different scenario than in the US.

In US, you can't call on your uncle or sister-in-law to help you out in time of need. you are on your own so employment is a do or die situation. whereas in naija, you can still survive for sometime if you are unemployed because of the social safety net. Nigeria doesn't really need a govt "social security" for that reason. we naturally have social security through our big families and friends etc.
US society is highly individualistic so employment is a do or die situation since there is no where else to turn except to go on welfare.

Also, another point is that nigeria has a HUGE informal economy. so even when many nigerians are officially "unemployed," many are doing business on the side to sustain themselves. This informal economy is almost non-existent in the US.


i'm not saying that your point is moot. but you also have to consider these factors.


ok i don't even know what to say to you. so are you saying that 150 million people in Nigeria live like animals and criminals? 
You've been watching too much national geographic. either that or you need to get off your high horse.

What i'm surprised about is that if it was foreigners that came on here to start talking about nigeria the ways you guys are, we would scream racism. it surprises me that we have adopted the same mentality or at least we have internalized it.

buzugee:

on point. i swear Ivie needs a brain transplant 

oIvieare you by any chance related to oIviewhiskey ?

OvieE:

@ oyinda.


Who cares. So you support and praise[b] buzugee [/b]with his bogus pictures of unknown people called uncles.

As for you Oyinda, you love what is people are facing in you beloved country today called Nigeria. You guys are pathetic.

GL:

true, it's bad to talk down on your country. but the OP asked if people regret moving abroad, and there's nothing belittling about having no regrets. what's wrong in someone preferring the life he is living in one place over another? i don't like it when people go abroad and have only negative tales about nigeria either, but this constant bashing of those in diaspora is also annoying.

buzugee:

[size=14pt]you know that a country is as bad as its inhabitants and as good as its inhabitants ? so maybe the problem is with nigerians right ? cuz lets face it even the abroad that you are running to ? nigerians do the same thing their. fraud, and all kinds of crime. so if you hate crime and anarchy so much why do you migrate to an organised country and then bring your crime with you ? so its not crime and dis-organization you are running from. you are running to a fertile ground so you can commit more crime ? am i right or am i right ? gerrout of here mayne [/size]

kushe:

when i was much younger,london was fascinating with the unique architecture,the accent,the oxford and bond streets endless shopping,the ease of getting and bedding chicks of all shapes,creed and kind,but as i became older,the perfect organisation of the systems here lost their appeal especially the more comfortable i became.

now i dont consider myself lucky to be cocooned in the thinking and sweat of another man.even if i earned a million pounds a year and lived in knightsbridge,i will still be described as a nigerian just like the al fayeed guy is always traced to his arabian roots and mittal to his indian roots.

i would rather be a king backhome in nigeria than a wannabe here.forget the absence of light,our fathers destroyed nigeria and it is up to our generation to build the nigeria of our dreams.i use an escalator countless times everyday and i ask myself how many functioning escalators we have inthe whole of lagos and i am saddened by the decay and lack of basic infrastructure ,yet i will not die in london or in any borough under the queen's jurisdiction,cos i am not a viking or a descendant of the first roman settlers here,and this place is sooooo not my home.

kushe:

i have never committed one foul act in all my years here,neither have a lot of folks i associate with,so i disagree completely with the notion that nigerians in the diaspora are die hard crime addicts always wanting to exploit the system.i said that to say this,'ajoo ole dabi ile'

Busy_body:


Yes the topic is about regrets, but as usual what happens time after time after time is that people in diaspora cannot contribute without looking down their nose at Nigeria and those in Naija sef, when we all know how they are living from paycheck to paycheck, mortgaged to the hilt and neck deep in debt.

If anyone is doing any bashing in threads like this, it is always those in diaspora, acting as if they are daft and bereft of commonsense, calling those in Naija animals, goon, haters, fools, so if you feel the need to preach fairness, these are the people you should face




Gbam, chop knuckle

Who wants to rent a house to a Nigerian

Who wants to leave their financial details lying around a Nigerian

Self-certification mortgage fraud, fake naija birth cert with younger age presented, Bent and corrupt mortgage Brokers, Housing benefit fraud, Tax credit overpayment fraud, Council Housing fraud, Fake bank certificate/Waec certificate for visa application, Fake tax declaration, Fake bank account, NHS Health Tourism (Home Office Stat: 1 in 15 NHS user is a Nigerian) Stolo, Shekere, Abere, Fake Shola Shola, £80 Home Office stamp, fake BT bills, Illegal bank transfers, Student paying £1,000 Uni deposit then dissappearing into the system once abroad to claim Home Student status, 10 years ACCA students, Care Assistant/Security staffs/Oracle software consultants with their photoshopped CV, fake "my landlord kicked me out letter" to get Council accommodation, Arrangee Marriage Fraud, Half-price electronics, Genje British Pali from £500 (work only) £1,500(Flight within Europe),  etcetera, etcetera, etcetera



AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO POINT FINGERS AT CORRUPT NIGERIAN LEADER, AS IF THEIR HANDS ARE CLEAN, SHIOR

Busy_body:


Piercingly poignant and melancholic food for thought

kushe:

i have never committed one foul act in all my years here,neither have a lot of folks i associate with,so i disagree completely with the notion that nigerians in the diaspora are die hard crime addicts always wanting to exploit the system.i said that to say this,'ajoo ole dabi ile'

if you doubt me,ask emeka anyaoku or koffi annan why they both retired to their locality after years at the very pinnacle of international diplomacy.these men could have chosen to live anywhere remember?
this takes me to the story of a certain egyptian ruler in the bible named joseph who instructed that his bones be exhumed and reburied whenever the children of israel left egypt.there is something about your homeland is why i am going back home to fulfil my God given destiny.

amor4ce:

There is a Yoruba proverb that was mentioned by Pa Abraham Adesanya not too long before he joined his ancestors and it goes something like this:
[b]A man will not leave his father's house because the roof leaks whenever it rains. Rather he will do his best to mend the roof.[/b]


I have a question for all Nigerians who have emigrated from and seek to emigrate from Nigeria and at the same time condemn the country as hopeless and/or terrible. Why should I not call you a ba.s,.tard and a coward?

This also goes to those who were born abroad and have done nothing but criticize and look down on their brothers and sisters.

It is as if these people in self-denial and who live with delusions of grandeur do not realize that they are in a position to do something for their Nigerian neighbors. They cowardly wait for govt (implying others) to do something (spoon-feed) them. Some even criticize govt leaders as if a tree makes a forest. For instance, If I condemn IBB it means that IBB is greater than me and can do and undo at will in my life. I would rather meditate on my contributions and what more I can contribute.

By the way, if you think there's any beef/jealousy on my part, I was born in the Far East and have lived along the US West Coast and in Lagos.

Ndipe:


And if the roof is thatched and it's constantly leaking during the rainy season, should he still stick by replacing it with thatch or replace the roof with zinc? It's a flawed proverb. Most times, people (like the house dweller who discard a thatched roof in favor of Zinc ceiling because its better) move abroad for a better life. They are tired of constantly replacing the thatched roof over and over again.

I love Nigeria very much, and no, I am not casting aspersions at it. What I am educating you is that the saying is flawed.

buzugee:

dont forget banky and laide and natty

buzugee:

@kushe

really ? you have not altered your travel card with biro or you have not rushed through the turnstile when someone swipes their travel card ?

Busy_body:


I beg to differ Bob Sirree, this saying is not flawed. This is your house which you painstakingly built with the sweat of your hands we are talking here, so there should be no room for "igi da, eye fo" runs, if thatched roof wears out and starts to fail to keep out the rain, put on your thinking cap and try to look for further durable solution, rather than jump ship and decamp to your neighbours house to crash/sleep on their floor, you are supposed to keep getting up, no matter how much you fall



Ha how could i forget awon gbogbo big gurls




We haven't met then, where are my manners, my bad, sorry welcome to Nairaland - where everyone in Diaspora earns over £50k and only roll and mingle with people who earn over £50k/annum or £750/day

Busy_body:

Self-certification mortgage fraud, fake naija birth cert with younger age presented, Bent and corrupt mortgage Brokers, Housing benefit fraud, Tax credit overpayment fraud, Council Housing fraud, Fake bank certificate/Waec certificate for visa application, Fake tax declaration, Fake bank account, NHS Health Tourism (Home Office Stat: 1 in 15 NHS user is a Nigerian) Stolo, Shekere, Abere, Fake Shola Shola, £80 Home Office stamp, fake BT bills, Illegal bank transfers, Student paying £1,000 Uni deposit then dissappearing into the system once abroad to claim Home Student status, 10 years ACCA students, Care Assistant/Security staffs/Oracle software consultants with their photoshopped CV, fake "my landlord kicked me out letter" to get Council accommodation, Arrangee Marriage Fraud, Half-price electronics, Genje British Pali from £500 (work only) £1,500(Flight within Europe),  etcetera, etcetera, etcetera


AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO POINT FINGERS AT CORRUPT NIGERIAN LEADER, AS IF THEIR HANDS ARE CLEAN, SHIOR

debosky:

See me thinking I had committed all the crimes in the book. I see there are still many more for me to commit.

I shall not rest till I have done ALL those things listed up there so I can proudly boast of my exploits as a Naija man.

debosky:

See me thinking I had committed all the crimes in the book. I see there are still many more for me to commit.

I shall not rest till I have done ALL those things listed up there so I can proudly boast of my exploits as a Naija man.

frankkky:

i have been following this thread with interest,as someone who has lived in both sides of the world,that is i hold a passport of a european country and my fatherland nigeria,let me add my piece.there is this saying,east or west there is no place like home,i dont think there is any nigerian who was born and bred in nigeria that would not miss home after some time outside of it,it happens to everyone and not only nigerians so i wonder why nigerians are making it such a big issue?