And why exactly should you be shocked that a man should love his country because that is what it is when you come down to reality. Its where he lives, works, plays and pays his taxes.
Of what business is that of yours and how does that change anything in your life?

PStylish:

I can see brainwashing at its best - one that is self-inflicted.
What a pity!!! An adage says a dog that will get lost will never hear the hunter's whistle.
You guys are mostly irredeemable and are already torn. Even if Nigeria became paradise, your type will never come back. You have been doomed to refined slavery and 3rd class citizenship.
How many expatriates/foreigners in Nigeria can ever speak of Nigeria as you speak of their land. This your posture can make even the white guys hate you.
I swear if I were you guys, returning home will be most paramount on my mind. All my thinking and activities will be tailored towards returning home ASAP.

tensor777:

Well its kind of lame if not myopic to stay in Europe just because you feel Nigeria has not changed for the common man.

tensor777:

You ought to have positive reasons for staying in Germany. Are you not there to tangibly better your own life.?

Freiburger:

Well this is all i can get from your reply. Now tell me what have changed for good for the common man? the tripled gap btw the rich and the poor? instead of these animals who call themselves politicians trying to implement living/existing wage policies the are decieving the folks with living wage. Does it makes sense if i make 500,000k amonth and spend over a third of it on energy, and a common man don't even get what i spend on energy per annual.
And that positive and basic reason is b-coz i  can't just afford being a bad folk cos these bad folks gave these animals the greelight of doing these havoc to the country. coz also long as the 've got their crumb from the cake they 're they so satisfied so long as their fellow common man have got what they had with the little crumb.

buzugee:

like i said, if you are black british ? you cannot be deported. then they will have to deport all the white south africans back to britain, all the white americans back to britain, etc etc. it just does not work like that. but what they can do is enact a new law saying that no matter if you were born in britain or not ? so long as you are the children of immigrants, you will never be british. thats the only thing they can do now.

tensor777:

Well I don't quite understand you. Are you in Germany because you are disgusted with these generic socio-economic issues and how in fact does being in Europe  enable you to contribute to resolving these issues.
Maybe YOU should consider going back and contesting for political office.

cap28:

You see in making the above statement you have overlooked one very important factor, the whites have the power while we have none, in as much as the mass repatriation of blacks back to africa will destroy the image of the west in the eyes of the rest of the world it would be  completely foolhardy of you to think that it is not possible.  White south africans unlike black immigrants in britain control the economy and dare i say the politics of south africa, who owns the mining industries - ever heard of Anglo American, De Beers, how about Sanlam - these are some of the most powerful corporations in south africa and they are all run by whites not the ANC.

Since the whites still retain their position of power in south africa who is going to have them repartriated back to england?

You then mention the whites in america - who told you that america and england see themselves as separate countries? have you not heard of the "special relationship" which exists between england and america? Also in political circles the british and americans usually operate as what is known as the anglo american alliance therefore all benefits arising from this relationship are extended to citizens of both countries.  Blacks of both countries however are regarded as citizens only in name.

Since you think that repatriation of blacks is impossible are you aware that west indians were "offered" the opportunity to exchange their citizenship with nationals of hong kong during margaret thatcher's regime, she saw the people of hong kong as being of more use to the british economy than the children of west indian immigrants who she felt would be better off back in the west indies.

So before you get too complacent try and remember where you are and the history of immigration and race in this country.

tensor777:

True that. In fact England is  a country of immigrants and will always be so.

cap28:

England is originally a country of immigrants that is true - but were those immigrants black or white people?
As at the date of the last census england's white population was 87%!!! with the remaning 13% made up of asians, blacks, mixed race and other groups - africans only constitute 1.4% of the 13%.

lipstick:

Hi I am a newbie. I have not read all the pages of the tread.

I picked this topic to read as I am Nigerian born but left as a small small child. I have been raised overseas. I am Yoruba but have not had the privilege to learn the language. I can cook some Nigerian food but by in large one could not really say I rep 9JA.

I have recently began looking forward to returning to Nigeria with the view to say for some time, perhaps marry/remain and such, but the response of the Nigerians who have left and seem so glad to have flew the nest raises a lot of reservations .

Whilst I have not returned to Nigeria in over 25 years I have spent some considerable amount of time in other “problematic” black countries with high crime, political misgivings, violence and corruption, and well that sadly (as far I have experienced) is present in many majority black countries, so have not taken the opinion the Nigeria is unliveable.

I guess having finally decided to come “home” and rediscover my roots I feel a bit deflated by the lack of regret, or more the lack of longing expressed by posters  

Perhaps I have just put too much into returning to Nigeria and should sick to what I know!? !

Siena:

The fact remains, Nigeria doesn't do much to encourage her citizens to remain. A lot of posters here continually cite wealth as a reason to remain in (or return) to Nigeria. It's not always about wealth - having big houses, several cars etc. What's the point in revelling in these things, when around you, a greater population are wallowing in abject poverty?

Someone cited training. I beg to differ. Nigeria is overpopulated as it is, and there are graduates who have been out of work since they graduated, some over six years ago. There simply aren't enough jobs to go round. It's probably best for most to "down grade" in terms of earnings, in a country they feel most at home in.

There's also the aspect of being treated as a second / third-class citizen abroad (so they say). Are Nigerians treated any better in Nigeria? Does an average Northerner look up to say an Igbo man? Nigerians are treated much worse in Nigeria, yet they fail to see it. All they see is the negative aspect of those living outside the shores of Nigeria, or those born there, who choose to stay out.

ada24:

thank you - I have noticed this emphasis on money and how big your house is and how many cars one has as if that is all one needs to live a peaceful and comfortable life.

The fact remains, Nigeria doesn't do much to encourage her citizens to remain. A lot of posters here continually cite wealth as a reason to remain in (or return) to Nigeria. It's not always about wealth - having big houses, several cars etc. What's the point in revelling in these things, when around you, a greater population are wallowing in abject poverty?

thank you - I have noticed this emphasis on money and how big your house is and how many cars one has as if that is all one needs to live a peaceful and comfortable life.

ada24:

the average black man loves to live flamboyantly u say??

hmmm i guess Chris Rock was right when he said we should not blame the white man when we look around us and wonder why we can pass on wealth to our future generations. Money is good but i find it very funny u can come one here and boast about our mates driving many cars when your neighbour cannot buy proper malaria drugs for their sick child or have to send their kids to a better off relative to become a househelp.

no one is claiming to be better than anyone else and like i have said after 21 pages i have yet to see people bounce of ideas on how to make our nation great and work for all not just for those that can do their daily shop at shoprite.

buzugee:

absolute hogwash. there are millions of people in america who live under the bridge and have no food. does that stop bill gates from owning his 50 billion dollars ? or does that stop oprah from boasting about owning over 10 properties ?

cap28:

England is originally a country of immigrants that is true - but were those immigrants black or white people?

As at the date of the last census england's white population was 87%!!! with the remaning 13% made up of asians, blacks, mixed race and other groups - africans only constitute 1.4% of the 13%.

debosky:

Your comparison is very wide of the mark - what proportion of the US population is in poverty compared to Nigeria? That is what you need to look at before going off tangent. Besides, the Bill Gates you're talking about intends to give away over 90% of his wealth before he dies to help the poor and to solve major medical problems such as malaria.

You on the other hand are very fond of your BMWs and mansions with swimming pools.

buzugee:

bruv ? poverty in nigeria does not equate to homelessness. i will rather be poor in naija than in america. the poor people in naija at least have face me i face you to live in. at least 10 million people in america have nowhere to live. they sleep under bridges. out here in illinois, at least a few of them feeze to death in the winter. this dude was sleeping under the bridge last winter. by the next morning he had turned into ice block. dead. they had to thaw him out to do an autopsy.
so lets not even begin to compare poverty because poverty in america is much worse than poverty in nigeria.

as per bmws and mansions with swimming pools ? that aint my reality bruh. i am not an ostentatious person. my persona is low-key. i am the type of guy who will relocate to naija. build a small bungalow and drive around on a vespa scooter i am fiercely individualistic and eccentric. i dont follow the crowd

jay bee:

Are you daft or just playing silly

jay bee:

And since when did Nigerians started collecting credible data.
I hope you know western governments do provide benefits for the homeless. What does your Government provide?
Didn't you watch welcome to Lagos?
Your ignorance level has definitely tipped the scale.