Guestuser:

Ok

Its nice that u know.

Throwback:



Firstly, Nobel is not a popularity contest of the works of the awardees.

Secondly, the Prize is for Literature and not for just the Prose component of Literature that also includes Play (Drama) and Poetry, which are Soyinka's main strengths and for which specific reason he was awarded in 1986.

If other awardees before and after Soyinka had works that were more popular than Soyinka's, then we would have argued that Soyinka's award was an aberration.

So I reiterate, it is not awarded based on whose work is more popular or widely translated, or based on who is better at Prose.

South Africa's Nadine Gordimer, won the Nobel Literature Prize on the strength of her Prose in 1991. Maybe that was the year Achebe should have won it for being more popular in Prose than Nadine Gordimer.

Achebe wasn't even under consideration when Soyinka won it in 1986.

Read again.

None of Wole Soyinkas works comes anywhere close to any of Chinua Achebe's works.

Fadomero:
You can say the man is good not beyond nobel laurel him brain then learn from wole

No wonder you were insulting the isi agu on those air hostesses.

Not because it is strange, but because you are a bigot.

Even Soyinka would gun you down.for that statement.

Hotfreezer:


You are ignorant.

One idiot here on Nairaland said Achebe was denied the Nobel prize because he supported Biafra. He had forgotten that Soyinka was jailed for supporting Biafra while Achebe was busy sleeping with college girls in America.

Chinua is a storyteller who excelled in writing beer parlour stories. Wole excelled in the 3 branches of literature and wrote intellectually stimulating books. Go and read The Interpreters by Wole Soyinka and see if you would remain the same.

Beer palour stories that are the most translated book in African history read in every major educational institution on earth..

Please tell me, how many people have read the interpreters?

Fadomero:
You can say the man is good not beyond nobel laurel him brain then learn from wole

It is beyond Nobel laurel whether you like it or not everytime it comes to igbos all of you will start doing pepper body tufia unu

ElectorAlexande:
Chinua Achebe has made a name for himself in the literary space and has laid a landmark only a few writers can match his prolific output and prowess in capturing and probating an image of Africa is beyond remarks. Lately, there has been a lot of contemplation on his echelon in the literary space - why he wasn't able to clinch the Nobel Laureate in his shelf of awards.

As Paul Samuel son posit; the dream of any scholar comes through by this award, The Nobel Laureate. Alfred Nobel's will in (1895) had it that the award was intended for the person who in the literary field, had produced 'the most outstanding work in a direction' one could easily conclude that Chinua Achebe and a plethora of writers like Graham Greene haven't fallen short of this criterium. Peter Jazzy Ezeh writes that Chinua Achebe and Graham Greene could have been omitted for the award due to their constant commitment in their support of the oppressed rather than the interest of the the interest of the big powers (the former especially in his pursuit of BIAFRA).


Various opinions have also perceived that those who receive the price lately haven't really done much to deserve it. Elfriede Jelinek (Austrian 2004) who herself felt she didn't deserve it ( a member of the Academy resigned in protest of the award) or is it Claude Simon the French writer whom ( the permanent secretary of the Swedish Academy - givers of the award) answered in an interview that he only heard of the name after he-Simon Claude won the prize.


Nevertheless, it would have made more weight for the stand of the Author, bit since the prize is not given posthumously, reasons, why Achebe didn't receive the award before he passes on, would still continue to be an open deliberation.



However, the Nobel Laureate would not decide the best of intellectual output the world has to bequeath us... Since it is recorded that Swedes have received more prizes than Asia put together, this could spark a reply that the Nobel Laureate now has a better meaning to 'a lofty and sound idealism'.

Chinualumogu Achebe has, however, earned himself much honour and reverence that has dwarfed the Nobel committee. His literary works can speak for it!

https://www.historicalville.com/2019/11/chinua-achebe-icon-beyond-nobel.html?m=1

I beg!!!

Achebe was the author of the first African novel to be taken seriously by anglophone critics and to be influential outside Africa; and thus to demonstrate to his contemporaries that the thing could be done. That's no mean achievement in itself, and worth any number of prizes.

Hotfreezer:


You are ignorant.

One idiot here on Nairaland said Achebe was denied the Nobel prize because he supported Biafra. He had forgotten that Soyinka was jailed for supporting Biafra while Achebe was busy sleeping with college girls in America.

Chinua is a storyteller who excelled in writing beer parlour stories. Wole excelled in the 3 branches of literature and wrote intellectually stimulating books. Go and read The Interpreters by Wole Soyinka and see if you would remain the same.

You are a fucking tribal bigot first of all Achebe was never sleeping with college girls he was a diplomat seeking for international assistance during the biafran war, Achebes books are internationally acclaimed go and google it Achebe is a distinguished writer who seemed to tell the world the African story in the African way he is a literary giant who don't need scumbags like you to tell his story

Achebe great literary giant of Africa

PrecisionFx:




Read again.

None of Wole Soyinkas works comes anywhere close to any of Chinua Achebe's works.

Read again.

It is not a popularity of works contest, else your argument over who should have won should have nothing to do with the 1986 edition of the award, rather you should have equally been contesting why others before Soyinka won the Prize when the Igbo genius merited it before everyone else that had the misfortune of sharing the world stage with Achebe.

Soyinka was awarded the 1986 Nobel Prize for his Plays and Poetry, 2 genres of Literature that do not know the existence of Achebe.

Read again.

Go and drag the 1991 Nobel Prize for Literature with Nadine Gordimer, who was the first African who was awarded the prize for her works in Prose, yet Achebe's works in Prose stand taller than hers.

In summary, since you like dragging things, go drag it with your mate.

munchi:
Great brain .....things fall Apart is a book one can’t get tired of reading but I don’t know why our sick government don’t encourage it, rather we import Macmillan for kids to read
We can’t have people like chinua,chiamada,wole etc yet They approve Animal farm for kids

Really? Animal is still being read in high school.in Nigeria. Even Things Fall Apart is one of books recommended for students in the US. I know we used it back in the days but Animal Farm was top of the list.

Hotfreezer:


You are ignorant.

One idiot here on Nairaland said Achebe was denied the Nobel prize because he supported Biafra. He had forgotten that Soyinka was jailed for supporting Biafra while Achebe was busy sleeping with college girls in America.

Chinua is a storyteller who excelled in writing beer parlour stories. Wole excelled in the 3 branches of literature and wrote intellectually stimulating books. Go and read The Interpreters by Wole Soyinka and see if you would remain the same.

Chinua Achebe sleeping with college girls in America during the Nigerian civil war??





''Chinua is a storyteller who excelled in writing beer parlour stories."

One of Chinua Achebes beer parlour stories sold over 10 million copies worldwide (much more than anything Soyinka wrote). That same work was translated in 50 different languages worldwide, a feat Soyinka cannot even dream of inside his dreams .

If anyone says Chinua Achebe was denied a nobel prize for literature because he supported biafra, then the person is speaking from a position of gross ignorance....Rather Chinua Achebe was denied a nobel peace prize for literature because he always strongly wrote against western influence in Africa, The West owns n decides whom they give a nobel prize to, just like every other award they give...

PrecisionFx:


Its nice that u know.

I don’t wrestle with pigs.

jealous yiibo f00l.....always envious of yoruba folks!

Achebe - an excellent story teller
Soyinka - an excellent poet and dramatist
They are both good. We as Nigerians should be proud of these two literary icons

Throwback:
I still don't understand the repetitive wailing over the lack of a Nobel award.

Only 4 black people in history have won Nobel prize in an academic field. All other black men/women won the award in the Peace category.

The 4 academic black Nobel awardees are:

1. William Arthur Lewis. American (Economics 1979)
2. Wole Soyinka. Nigerian (Literature 1986)
3. Derek Walcott. St Lucian (Literature 1992)
3. Toni Morrison. American (Literature 1993)

Wole Soyinka has the distinction of being the first continental African to win the Nobel Prize in an academic field, and the first black person worldwide to win the Literature Nobel Prize.

Other Africans who have won the Nobel Prize in an Academic field are either Arab or White South African.

Well it's because to the average reader Achebe wrote far better than Soyinka. But Nobel voters are not average readers plus Soyinka spent years in jail for political activism

Equity15:
interesting..but why say better than nobel laureate? this una self esteem ehn...always trying to compare him or say he's better than wole..na wa for una

I don't understand they say because he was against d civil war that's d reason why he was not giving d award what now happen to Mandela when he won d award fighting for S.A freedom

RTSC:

Beer palour stories that are the most translated book in African history read in every major educational institution on earth..

Please tell me, how many people have read the interpreters?

why una dey fool una selves like this.. rhapsody of reality has been translated to many languages.does it now mean that it is an influntial book..
Foolish set of people

PrecisionFx:


What a daft individual.

Chinua Achebe sleeping with college girls in America during the Nigerian civil war?? I sincerely think u need psychiatric help .





''Chinua is a storyteller who excelled in writing beer parlour stories."

One of Chinua Achebes beer parlour stories sold over 10 million copies worldwide (much more than anything Soyinka wrote). That same work was translated in 50 different languages worldwide, a feat Soyinka cannot even dream of inside his dreams .

If anyone says Chinua Achebe was denied a nobel prize for literature because he supported biafra, then the person is speaking from a position of gross ignorance....Rather Chinua Achebe was denied a nobel peace prize for literature because he always strongly wrote against western influence in Africa, The West owns n decides whom they give a nobel prize to, just like every other award they give...

keep deluding yourself d award is being presented by the norwegian parliament and they appoints the norwegian nobel committee , which selects the nobel peace prize laureate

Owerri1stSon:


He said the truth ogah..

I studied Eng & Literature and guess what? No Eng. student would dare rate Wole works to the Almighty Achebe's.

but your achebe didn't even get ordinary nobel nomination before he kicked the bucket

Hexdavewalkersl:


It is beyond Nobel laurel whether you like it or not everytime it comes to igbos all of you will start doing pepper body tufia unu

shutup your mouth foolish set of people.. it is only you cursed people that have problem with soyinka nobel prize.. no other tribe does this useless comparison like you people..
Mad people.

ElectorAlexande:
Chinua Achebe has made a name for himself in the literary space and has laid a landmark only a few writers can match his prolific output and prowess in capturing and probating an image of Africa is beyond remarks. Lately, there has been a lot of contemplation on his echelon in the literary space - why he wasn't able to clinch the Nobel Laureate in his shelf of awards.

As Paul Samuel son posit; the dream of any scholar comes through by this award, The Nobel Laureate. Alfred Nobel's will in (1895) had it that the award was intended for the person who in the literary field, had produced 'the most outstanding work in a direction' one could easily conclude that Chinua Achebe and a plethora of writers like Graham Greene haven't fallen short of this criterium. Peter Jazzy Ezeh writes that Chinua Achebe and Graham Greene could have been omitted for the award due to their constant commitment in their support of the oppressed rather than the interest of the the interest of the big powers (the former especially in his pursuit of BIAFRA).


Various opinions have also perceived that those who receive the price lately haven't really done much to deserve it. Elfriede Jelinek (Austrian 2004) who herself felt she didn't deserve it ( a member of the Academy resigned in protest of the award) or is it Claude Simon the French writer whom ( the permanent secretary of the Swedish Academy - givers of the award) answered in an interview that he only heard of the name after he-Simon Claude won the prize.


Nevertheless, it would have made more weight for the stand of the Author, bit since the prize is not given posthumously, reasons, why Achebe didn't receive the award before he passes on, would still continue to be an open deliberation.



However, the Nobel Laureate would not decide the best of intellectual output the world has to bequeath us... Since it is recorded that Swedes have received more prizes than Asia put together, this could spark a reply that the Nobel Laureate now has a better meaning to 'a lofty and sound idealism'.

Chinualumogu Achebe has, however, earned himself much honour and reverence that has dwarfed the Nobel committee. His literary works can speak for it!

https://www.historicalville.com/2019/11/chinua-achebe-icon-beyond-nobel.html?m=1

he was not even nominated for nobel prize

Kennyswagz1:
why una dey fool una selves like this.. rhapsody of reality has been translated to many languages.does it now mean that it is an influntial book..
Foolish set of people

Look at this clown.
If I dey follow person dey discuss intellectualism, NA did clown I go follow talk?

Go and learn how to be an intelligent bigot, first by knowing when to be a bigot or when to run.
Bigot for the sake of bigotry.
Olodo.

Fadomero:
You can say the man is good not beyond nobel laurel him brain then learn from wole

Are you saying Wole is better than Achebe?

Sahgs:
His by far Nigeria's if not Africa's GOAT.
I've always wondered why he never won the award too but am pretty sure is got to do with politics......
Loved his novels with the likes of Elechi Amadi, Cyprian Ekwensi, Chukwuemeka Ike etc they're my favorite writers no books today can compare to theirs

In literature...I don't think Wole compares to Achebe.... you could compare him to the the likes you mentioned..but cyprian ekwensi comes close to chinua

PoliteActivist:


Well it's because to the average reader Achebe wrote far better than Soyinka. But Nobel voters are not average readers plus Soyinka spent years in jail for political activism

Lol....I laugh....Average readers indeed...Baba read just two of any chinua's books and confirm for yourself....The man was a literature god...
I recommend his Trilogy (things fall apart, arrow of God and no longer at ease)

GermanPoison:
I don't understand they say because he was against d civil war that's d reason why he was not giving d award what now happen to Mandela when he won d award fighting for S.A freedom

you dey mind them?

He is and was a legend,his books were all amazing

RTSC:

Look at this clown.
If I dey follow person dey discuss intellectualism, NA did clown I go follow talk?

Go and learn how to be an intelligent bigot, first by knowing when to be a bigot or when to run.
Bigot for the sake of bigotry.
Olodo.

waht is this fool talking about
I asked, rhapsody of reality by oyakhilome has been translated into hundreds of languages.. does that make it an influential book..
Mumu flat-head..
That nobel prize go ever dey pain una because your achebe nor even fit get ordinary nomination for him kick the bucket..

RTSC:

Look at this clown.
If I dey follow person dey discuss intellectualism, NA did clown I go follow talk?

Go and learn how to be an intelligent bigot, first by knowing when to be a bigot or when to run.
Bigot for the sake of bigotry.
Olodo.

waht is this fool talking about
I asked, rhapsody of reality by oyakhilome has been translated into hundreds of languages.. does that make it an influential book..
Mumu flat-head..
That nobel prize go ever dey pain una because your achebe nor even fit get ordinary nomination bfor him kick the bucket..

Jblaiseboy:

In literature...I don't think Wole compares to Achebe.... you could compare him to the the likes you mentioned..but cyprian ekwensi comes close to chinua

a nobel laureate?