Jen33:

yommyuk's rant exemplifies the ignorance and arrogance of many who subscribe to the christian faith.  You likely haven't got an inkling of who produced that bible, how, where, or why it was produced. Tell us what research you've done into the origins of the New Testament for instance? Do you know the writers of the gospels are unknown?

I repeat, NOBODY KNOWS who wrote the gospels - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.  The first discovery of these texts was marked X for ''anonymous''. Subsequent renditions of the text then named them ''the gospels according to Mark'' etc.

Now I don't expect you to take this information and do what every normal intelligent human being would do, ie research it and get to the bottom of it.

I fully expect you to act as dumb and ignorant as you've shown, reject the information without investigation, and indulge in another masturbatory exercise in tiresome quotes from the little Jewish book that's replaced your brains.

Jen33:

seyibrown said:
There is no contradiction. As I stated earlier, no religion is 'pefect' or 'accurate'. But christians like you need to know the truth regarding the numerous gross imperfections of your creeds. This does not mean that christians are not connecting with Infinite Consciousness owing to the inaccuracy of their teachings. As earlier stated, it is thought and belief that give power to your enterprise, and to other religious enterprises.

Did you ever consider that you might be in error trying to teach CHRISTians Christianity from opinions that are NOT FOUND IN CHRIST? Is truth from outside of Christ valid for CHRISTianity? If you do have truth to show CHRISTIANS about how to be Christian, bring it from CHRIST, not pre-christ ideologies and 'ratatouille'-inity! If it comes from outside Christ, it is not valid for CHRISTianity! 

yommyuk's rant exemplifies the ignorance and arrogance of many who subscribe to the christian faith.  You likely haven't got an inkling of who produced that bible, how, where, or why it was produced. Tell us what research you've done into the origins of the New Testament for instance? Do you know the writers of the gospels are unknown?  I repeat, NOBODY KNOWS who wrote the gospels - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.  The first discovery of these texts was marked X for ''anonymous''. Subsequent renditions of the text then named them ''the gospels according to Mark'' etc.
Now I don't expect you to take this information and do what every normal intelligent human being would do, ie research it and get to the bottom of it.

I fully expect you to act as dumb and ignorant as you've shown, reject the information without investigation, and indulge in yet another masturbatory exercise in tiresome quotes from the little Jewish book that's replaced your brains.

My proof that the bible is the word of God was given to me by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Tell me, do you think those deeply into other religions/belief systems do not experience their own 'version' of the ''holy spirit''?

Jen33:

yommyuk said:

That some entity or presence possesses you in your religious state, does not mean the book you call your ''holy book'' is wholly accurate and not filled with spurious tales and fantasies. You keep mistaking your religious experiences for biblical inerrancy.

Tell me, do you think those deeply into other religions/belief systems do not experience their own version of what you call the ''Holy Spirit''?

Have you ever seen an Ifa worshiper enter a state of delirium wrought by the Ifa ''Holy Spirit''?

What about Shintoists? Buddhists? Have you seen them enter a state of nirvana?

It's not much different from what you call the ''holy spirit''. You do not acknowledge or appreciate these other experiences shared by your fellow humans  because you've been brainwashed to shut out all other experiences but the christian one.

You've been conditioned to regard all non-christian experiences as invalid.

You've been conditioned to have tunnel vision.

This is why you think - falsely - that the ''holy spirit'' is unique to christians.

r u comparing d "Holy Spirit" with d spirits 0f Islam, Ifa,budda and co.

Let me educate u. Why am I laying the basis of my experience and faith on the Holy Spirit

1. The Holy Spirit is the connection/ bridge to God within me. It is a part of me that is joined with the mind and heart of God.

2. God uses the Holy Spirit to reveal his truth within me. It is called the power of God within me.

3.  It is also the voice of God within me. This voice guides and directs my steps.

4. Overtime I have learnt to hear, recognise and understand this voice that works within me.

5. I call it the voice of truth.

Lets talk about the so called other religions , ideologies and faith that you are going on about.

I orginally come from a faimily of Idol worshippers. I mean proper Idols.

My great grand father was a top notch demi god during his time. My dad was very close to him and I am very close to my dad.  So if you are trying to talk to me about IFA, RITUALS, EwE(Leafs), and ORO (Words), I have been there. I acknowledge that they exisit, are powerful, dangerous, got some elements of good about them but all in all it is VANITY.

i always affirm that I do not follow man but Christ. wHY? Personal encounter and revelation with Christ. This is not about what I read in a book but a personal experience.

In what way exactly do you think they are ''different'' bearing in mind that ALL Consciousness derives from one source?

The vast majority of faiths outside these twin religions subscribe to religious plurality. Any wonder they've collectively shed far less blood than muslims and christians?

I think you will find there's more to enjoy out of life when the focus in your head moves from ''me'' to ''us''. Try it. It's hugely liberating.

while your new god is white or Jewish does not make the latter more valid than the former.

Dude, billions of people have had a completely different experience and theirs' is NO LESS VALID THAN YOURS. .

Grow up and get that little inconvenient fact into your selfish head

seyibrown i thank you for your input on this thread.
i love that story about the apple
@ jen33 have you had a near death experience before?
because i have and it is nothing like what you say.
i am not here to abuse you but to plead with you to leave the path you are currently on.
after death, all bets are off
can you REALLY say with confidence where your soul will be, don't you wonder what death will be like
i have experienced it and my brother, all this your talk about vibrations no be am O!

[s]Actually, we do not need to hear YOUR parochial experience. Fact is that Near Death experiences have been VERY WELL DOCUMENTED in their thousands in the last few decades, and 99% of people who experience it will tell you for free that there is no ''true'', or ''false'' religion, that ''hellfire'' is non-existent, that belief in Christ or any other ''saviour'' is wholly unnecessary because ALL souls, including the souls of animals, transit from this life to the next as a matter of nature. ALL HUMANS ARE SAVED, regardless of what they ''believe'' or don't ''believe'', and that universal Unconditional Love is the ONLY truth.

Interestingly, the vast majority of people who return from their near-death experience are transformed spiritually, NOT necessarily religiously. They become far less materialistic, far more giving, far more caring about the condition of others and the world, and lose the fear of death.

They have been to the other side and back, and they KNOW - not ''believe'' - they KNOW the truth, which is all that I've written above.

Near-death experiences and the afterlife:

www.nderf.org[/s]