Andremalan731:
Hello brothers
Abeg make una come advise me o
My baby mama is now using my surname
I went to her workplace today to check my daughter and some of her colleagues were calling her Mrs (my surname)
I didn’t say anything or really take it serious until I saw her name on some materials and documents on her desk
That’s when I confirmed she has been using my surname officially
I was so angry I wanted to slap her.
I wanted to also arrest her but my friend said I don’t really have a case against her and I should also think about my daughter.
Please what can I do to stop this nonsense

Lightway:


Sorry about derailing your thread.


This is my last post here.. unless someone quotes me. Then I'll reply.

It was never my intention to detail. I thought redpillers are more open minded.

Goodbye

ElasmoBranchii:


Do you agree with his definition?

Interesting, are other emotions social construct too because they don't have physical representation?

Can you say that other emotions such as fear, anger, happiness etc don't exist because "the feeling wears off after a while"?

They said... What do you say love is? this is a very important question.

Would you agree with me that they were taught that was how to express the feeling they call love?

Andremalan731:
Hello brothers
Abeg make una come advise me o
My baby mama is now using my surname
I went to her workplace today to check my daughter and some of her colleagues were calling her Mrs (my surname)
I didn’t say anything or really take it serious until I saw her name on some materials and documents on her desk
That’s when I confirmed she has been using my surname officially
I was so angry I wanted to slap her.
I wanted to also arrest her but my friend said I don’t really have a case against her and I should also think about my daughter.
Please what can I do to stop this nonsense

adambeatz:


Lol i read the case of a man who forged his wife's signature and divorced her for years without her knowledge . Bro lawyer straight up no time wasted.

Martinez39s:
I think I have heard that story. It came out on a news website. It's an American, black American. He was trying to play the system, but the system got him. Dude knew what he would face in the divorce court. Are you referring to a different story?

Smartb0y:
Imagine one person using multiple monikers to post on here for days just to make themselve feel good by seeking validation. .

I didn't understand the level of depression certain persons go through in Nigeria until now

Lightway:


the rage

Men don't fall in love. Men don't love sacrificially

Lightway:


Don't be angry. I'm trying to learn here.

When you say men love women for who they are.

Can you please describe what these men think women are?

What does the man think women are that makes him to love?

ma373733:


Men love way way sacrificially
Infact our sex organs tells it all ours is giving while theirs is receiving

Infact men are the ideal lovers

I'll give you some stats

Do you know that globally among all the causes of sucides, relationship related sucides took a whopping 42%
According to stats globally men are are nearly twice more sucidal than women? Infact in the USA and other feminised countries men are 4X more likely to commit sucide than women and nearly half of it is caused by relationship related issues.
Why ?
Simple

sacrifice
Sacrifice is the currency of love

The more you sacrifice the more you love

Men are super sacrificial more than women they're ready to take risks than women

You might say I'm religious

But ever wondered why Jesus wasn't a woman?

To me
1. women are less sacrificial
2.women are hypergamous eve is a good example they just want something better and better
I believe if Jesus was a woman he would have accepted when the devil promised him the kingdoms of the world but know men are sacrificial and sacrifice is what is called love .

Giving has always been a way men express love
John 3:16 God so love the world that he GAVE!

Women only love their children because of the sacrifice made and risk they took for them

Apart from that hey! No woman loves a man
She can only be submissive to his power or
frame she can't love a man

Bible said men should love women should submit
It really shows the creator knows the who can love and who cannot

during wars men because of love fight and sacrifice their lives to keep women safe .

Men are ideal lovers
Simping is when you're sacrificing before submission because of low self esteem or other factors.

Note: sacrifice can be money ,time or other things money can't buy.


For me o there's nothing wrong eating a woman's Money because I know if she sacrifice more she's under my control
I choose power over love

Because women always submit to power..

Why do we come here every day sef .

We come here to learn and update to keep frame

We talk about simps simps simps
They're just men that loves too much even when the person is not submissive .

Don't say men don't love it's just illogical because you don't even have stats to back your claims caveadullam did justice with facts
Martinez39 also gave you some points
I'm not expecting you accept my side of the topic

Lightway:


I've already explained this with[b] facts [\b]before.

So you can read my previous posts.

But if you need a direct answer I could answer.. maybe in another thread if you want

People here are too redpilled for this

ma373733:

Ogbeni which fact?

Bring it on you don too make noise here .
Someone even said redpillers are hypergamous in what sense? I'm not understanding
Laff wan kee me

Bring your facts why men are not sacrificial lovers
I need stats
Facts and figures

adambeatz:


same story bro, damn you're always updated

Lightway:


The people on this thread are angry. They don't like these posts.

If your interested, quote me on another thread in a different section.

Martinez39s:
I always advise men in developed societies with gynocentric family laws to not risk getting married. I also tell them not to think they can outsmart the system; don't try to play the system. The system is powerful, pervasive, smart, cunning and utterly ruthless. Na devil incarnates full the family courts.

Sonnobax15:

Yeah I did...Way back in 2013.....But later on she was the one who told me she wasn't good enough for me...So tay she even had to introduce a friend's of hers who was from a well-to-do home to me...But I no gree for her . In stead I was more interested in her.....Na so we take dey till this moment . My brothers,love dey exist... Don't let anybody deceive you....Na until you jam true love,na them you go realize say YES true true everybody get him own better half.

ma373733:
Ever happily after
Or happy everyly after I don't know how they say that crap is what is killing men in the west

Disney fantasies

severe case of onetis,babe obviously didn't like the guy and he thinks he dated her out of pity
All the best to him.

Junnior:


I had to bring this here
Cc mart.inez39s skept.icus lum.inouz Cavea.dullam mjbolt die.hard7 so.nzin etc.
Should we tell him?

Martinez39s:
I always advise men in developed societies with gynocentric family laws to not risk getting married. I also tell them not to think they can outsmart the system; don't try to play the system. The system is powerful, pervasive, smart, cunning and utterly ruthless. Na devil incarnates full the family courts.

Martinez39s:
They think their spouses genuinely love them just as they love their spouses. They think their spouses are different and would have their backs through thick and thin, just like them. Because of this thinking, they don't think their spouses would weaponize these laws against them. Try to tell them about these laws and the need to be careful, they will say "my woman is different. She wouldn't do that to me." SMH.

Lightway:


This is what you wrote


Exactly just like in the days of old, a man will provide shelter, food, and protection for his wife and children but that was not love. Our forefathers did not describe this as love. This was our natural order.

However, times have changed. We are not animals and we have evolved. Women are now becoming providers just like men. Women are even becoming smarter and they're using the fact that we, men are natural providers to collect money from us.

You see women saying " a real man will take care of his girlfriend or another man will"
A real man will make his girflriend happy.

In fact, no one is talking about marrying a virgin in media these days, because men have been fooled to believing that they love ideally. Men don't demand anything from women like our forefathers did. (Our forefathers demanded virginity and cursed single mothers).

Women are using the fact that in the days of old, they were seen as insignificant babies with fish brains, they are using this to outsmart men today. That's why you see them feign ignorance in some situations and hope that men come to their aid. Because men see women as soft creatures that don't think straight.

But women today are using this to their advantage. They are using the fact that men want to be providers to take their money. The problem is that men think that by giving a woman money is how you show love. What about forefathers that married 4 to 5 wives and took care of all of them. What about Ned Nwoko? Do you want to tell me Ned Nwoko loves Regina Daniels or he just wants a fresh, fair body and he became a provider to secure it. Regina Daniels on the other hand saw that he is a provider who will keep her rich till the end of her life and she accepted it. Both parties win.

The problem with today's men is that they are becoming providers for women all in the name of love without getting anything in return. if men stop providing for women, these ladies will either try to use SIGN langugage (Shame, Insults, Guilt and Need to be right) to bend the man to do their well. If all men stop being providers until they get something from women. Then you will see women returning back to their traditional status.

I mean, why should I be your provider if you're not giving me your virginity.

The problem with men today, is that men think they fall in love. There is no such thing as love. Nigerian men are so fooled by movies and their sex starvation that they think that providing for a woman is a way to show love.

When a man provides for a woman, he will hope that she falls in love with him too. That's what the man wants. If you provide and she doesn't fall in love with you, you will try harder to win her love and do more. This is what men thinks will keep a woman loyal . That's why you see them crying after they spent on a girl and she broke up with them. You will hear him crying that after all he has spent. This is the sunk cost fallacy that Ubunja talks about. When the man spends so much it is harder for him to pull out. Not because he is in love but because of how much he has given. He can't believe that he will lose everything. It is the same thing with businesses. When you invest so much in a business idea. Even though the ship starts sinking, you will want to hold on for as long as possible. Is it because you love the business? No. It is because you've invested so much and you don't want to accept reality just yet.

Many Nigerian men will have sleepless nights if a woman spends on them and they don't have enough money to spend on her. If she tells him that she is going to pay for the marriage. He will get scared that people will hear that she is the one paying for the relationship and he is not man enough to hustle. Does this sound like love?

There is a story on nairaland of a man that was worried that his girlfriend earned more than him. He even posted it on nairaland asking if he should double his hustle or end the relationship. Men see themselves as providers and when they're not providing for a girl, they feel worthless.

That's why you see men sacrificing for a girl. That's why you see them writing exam for their girlfriend. If he doesn't do it, it will look as if he can't help his girl in her time of need. He takes his problem solver position and helps her out. This is not love, but because he sees himself as the provider and if he doesn't do it, she might break up with him or go somewhere else. He is not doing it for love.

There is no love anywhere.

There is also the issue of low self esteem. A lot of blue-pilled men have low-self esteem.

When they look at a girl, they see pussy, breast and a soft voice of an angel. They calculate this as a woman's worth. That's why when they see a beautiful woman that doesn't ABC, they are ready to get on their knees and beg her. He is ready to be her provider to ensure that this beautiful woman he saw belongs to him. Is that love?

Lordcassy:


I don't like the way you insult them....they are just ignorant and are using their blue pill reasoning to think...

Alot of half-baked people, who have not done the work but think they can break the redpill to fit their worldview and make themselves feel good are here....

Now I know why Rollo Tomassi calls out people who are drifters of the redpill...

Concerning that light statement about provider ko forefathers nii....
Guess they do not know about Alpha bleeps Beta bucks...if you are trying to be beta then listen to girl...lol...you have already failed before you begun...

Words of wisdoms..."You can never fill an already full cup"...

if you come into the redpill and think you can bend to your will and some knowledge you think have....then you are no better than the fools in west shouting "Gender is construct"....

Demzee take it easy on them...they know not what they do....

Lightway:




I took
love between man and woman is caused by the misfiring of some neuromodulators (oxytocin, dopamine) in our brains which have been set off or stimulated by one of the possible catalysts like wealth, physique, physiological patterns. In reality, what you feel when you see someone is just dopamine, or any of the feel good chemicals; Serotonin or Endorphins. Remember that feeling that comes over you when have sex. Remember how you feel when you touch a woman's naked body and you want to have her. Remember how the lust dies off after you have her. The same thing happens when you see someone and you say you love the person.

Love is just one of these feel good chemicals and after a while they fade. You can reignite them via memory or by doing something new. That's why you see couples going for therapy, going on vacations, going on trips to experience something new and rekindle their love. YOu can search for this on Google and you will see evidence. True love doesn't need to be rekindled, but you see couples doing that, because true love doesn't exist.

Love does not exist, but the feel good chemicals oxytocin, dopamine, seretonin, and endrophin exist. What the world tries to do is make these chemicals last longer in the brain by telling people that a man can love one woman forever. These chemicals are being interpreted as love. Think of yourself fuxing a woman, and you love her smell, her figure 8, her breasts, just think of her naked. After some months of fucking non-stop, you will definitely get tired and want something new. Because emotions don't last forever. In fact, leaving the girl might make you want to go back to her, because you start missing those feel good chemicals. When you go back to her and stay again, you will get used to it and your body will begin to yearn for more. I'm just trying to explain how these chemicals work.

There are animals that have one mate for life and there are animals liike lioness that sleep with many lions when mating. Humans are not the kind of animals that have one mate for life. But love teaches us that this is possible. Love does not exist, but these feel good chemicals exist.

To the poster, I will like your input on this.

ElasmoBranchii:


I took my time to educate myself on what emotions are. That is why I like discussion like this. This is what I found out
"Our emotions are controlled by a group of brain structures called the limbic system. The limbic system releases chemicals which spur on our emotional states. The type of emotion we feel depends on which chemicals have been released. For example, the hormone oxytocin allows us to experience feelings of love"



Please read this
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131125/how-the-love-hormone-works-its-magic



"When we are intimate with someone, oxytocin, also known as the "love hormone" is released into the body "during intercourse and other forms of intimacy," Dr. Sal Raichbach"

"Oxytocin release causes the sense of trust and makes us miss our partners. People with high levels of testosterone may probably not feel the connection, because this hormone suppresses oxytocin activity."



Love is an emotion how does it teach?
Are you sure your understanding of love isn't based on the western fantasy which you attack.
I never knew you were meant to love one woman your whole life. Men of the past didn't love like that.



Love exist and just as any other emotion is caused by neurophysiological changes.

A man's love is unconditional
A woman's love is conditional

A man loves a woman just because she is a woman
A woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and what he provides.

ubunja:

Okay, what I'm going to say will have many variables and question marks and holes,, but I'm just putting it out there to give a general idea of things. It must not be taken as a complete, ironclad theory or set of principles.

Bro you're on point on this.

Never invest in a woman because you're just improving her SMV (sexual market value). Which will activate her hypergamy. Keep her where you found her and use your money in such a way that if she disconnects from you and goes, she'll find herself where you found her.

There's a huge difference between marrying a beautiful woman whose hair, nails and makeup are top notch AND marrying a plain woman then making her beautiful with good hair, nails and makeup. The first is you getting what you deserve or can afford. While the second is you INVESTING in a woman - Which is what men must avoid. You can use your money to maintain a slay queen. But if you find an average girl and turn her into a slay queen then you're investing in her. Which will backfire spectacularly, Because after you're done with her, her SMV will be higher than when she started, which means she's now considering you BELOW HER - nevermind you yourself improved her said SMV.

Investing in a woman includes things improving a woman's education, helping her start her own business (which will inevitably lead to her independence from you) etc. You must keep her dependent. Supply her needs and wants without putting her in a position where she can replace you. She must not own anything but be happy. (Hard but not impossible) . You must be her provider, not investor. You can very well give a woman a good life, a nice home, fun trips and good experiences without investing in her. But just showing her how much you love her.

Pïmps mastered this game ages ago. They keep all the money but make sure their women get the best of anything - the best accommodation, the best food and the best outfits. The women get everything they ask for - except for cold hard cash. That's always a no. These pïmps even do the shopping on behalf of their women to stay ahead of the game. Cause give a woman cash, no matter how little - she'll find a way to grow it. It's their gift. Pïmps prevent this and keep cash away from women.

This may seem unfair, cruel or extreme in this day and age; but women do play the same game with men as regards to sex. A Woman always keeps a man dependent and relying on her and her alone for sex. A man is not allowed to even masturbate. If a married man services himself you'll hear all the wailings from women shaming him and demanding to know if his wife is not enough for him!! He'll be Condemned for destroying his wife's self-esteem and confidence. He must always get his sex from the wife. If she's not in the mood, he must wait for her. Not go elsewhere. Not even to a prostitute.

Now, because women are masters of the game, they monopolized the sex and also monopolized men's money:
Did not our elders, fathers and uncles hand over their own hard-earned money to their women, the WOMEN who would then give the men money bit by bit on a daily basis as the needs arise, eg every morning he's given transport money and every weekend he's given beer money. This was the norm a few generations ago in many places. This is how cunning women have been. Pïmps merely give women a taste of their own medicine - with brilliant results. It needs be that men start looking closely at how those flesh peddlers mastered women.

But many men are intent on achieving women's growth. They'll take a woman from the bottom and keep pouring money into her growth until she outgrows him. Then she leaves. Men are out here educating their wives, getting their women plastic surgery, buying investments and the like. Which is foolish.
All that money and effort and even plastic surgery must have been for themselves. For the men. To keep their own SMV ever so high. And yes I said it, men must not shy away from plastic surgery. If you've something about your face that you don't like, save money and go get it fixed. Leave the scratches and scars, they add to your masculine beauty. But that nose, that eye, those ears - get them fixed if you ain't happy. Same goes for teeth: if yours are discolored, go whiten them. If they're crooked, consider investing in braces to straighten them. If a front tooth is missing, move heaven and earth to replace it. All this may sound all too shallow and even feminine... But it will pay dividends. Cause combine this with the body game (gym) and you're an Adonis. women will come. And you won't be invested in any of them because you invested, instead, in yourself.

ElasmoBranchii:


I took my time to educate myself on what emotions are. That is why I like discussion like this. This is what I found out
"Our emotions are controlled by a group of brain structures called the limbic system. The limbic system releases chemicals which spur on our emotional states. The type of emotion we feel depends on which chemicals have been released. For example, the hormone oxytocin allows us to experience feelings of love"



Please read this
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131125/how-the-love-hormone-works-its-magic



"When we are intimate with someone, oxytocin, also known as the "love hormone" is released into the body "during intercourse and other forms of intimacy," Dr. Sal Raichbach"

"Oxytocin release causes the sense of trust and makes us miss our partners. People with high levels of testosterone may probably not feel the connection, because this hormone suppresses oxytocin activity."



Love is an emotion how does it teach?
Are you sure your understanding of love isn't based on the western fantasy which you attack.
I never knew you were meant to love one woman your whole life. Men of the past didn't love like that.



Love exist and just as any other emotion is caused by neurophysiological changes.

A man's love is unconditional
A woman's love is conditional

A man loves a woman just because she is a woman
A woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and what he provides.