Mentholated:
Humans are naturally selfish which is essential for human survival.

No human either male or female is capable of sacrificial love. We all love opportunistically.

Whenever we invest anything into something, we hope to get MORE in return, either cash or kind. That is being opportunistic.

If I spend a million naira annually on my girlfriend, it means I believe the relationship is worth more than a million annually. That is not sacrifice, that is opportunistic.

Earlier I advised men to keep developing themselves so they can always get what they want and also know the real WORTH of what they are getting.

All humans are hypergamous in NATURE. Redpill guys are hypergamous and opportunistic in all their dealings with women without even knowing it.

All human relationships are transactional whether you like it or not and your aim is to reap more than you sow irrespective of the sacrifices you think you are making.

Enjoying the best years of a woman is hypergamy.

As you understand female nature, the first thing you will notice is a gradual change in the type of women you associate with. Your redpill lens will only deal with women that are beneficial to you.

The benefits with time will keep getting better as you realise the REAL VALUE of what the women in your lives are offering.

If you are a young business man, you fall in "love" and marry the daughter of a business tycoon and that association brings you great success. That is your hypergamous nature at work.

Amazing

CaveAdullam:


Nice summation!

In addendum: The intersexual dynamics, will not say it is complicated but wide and contains a whole lot of nuances that must be understood and puzzled together in order to ensure a successful relationship or have a good knowledge of its framework and mode of operation.

For anyone to mention that men and women are hypergamous by bringing up some absurd linear equation (emotion + knowledge = Hypergamy) is funny and at same time, stupid!

Mr light like I said before has a point, but the framework from which he is defending it is not appropriate.

Hypergamy got two sides: alpha fvcks beta bucks which is rooted in the feminine psyche. He is concentrating on the beta bucks side and how men are exploited which is true. What about the Alpha Fvcks side--- the genuine desire we talk about? That women fvck broke dudes? That women fvck bad boys? We all know that these alphas, jerks or don juans does nothing to win a woman's heart, it just happens! If that's the case, what do we say it is if it is not an emotional attraction called love?

Men love, women love, but how they express this love differs. I agree with Mr light in the aspect of simping, the beta portrayal of love by media outlets and the ignorance men are being led. Withal, this shouldn't stop us from saying what is true as present until a better knowledge arrive.

Thanks.

PS: Lordcassy, my lord I sight you!

No human either male, female or hermaphrodite is capable of unconditional love.

We all love to GAIN.

The real value of this GAIN is limited by our knowledge and exposure.

ElasmoBranchii:


I took my time to educate myself on what emotions are. That is why I like discussion like this. This is what I found out
"Our emotions are controlled by a group of brain structures called the limbic system. The limbic system releases chemicals which spur on our emotional states. The type of emotion we feel depends on which chemicals have been released. For example, the hormone oxytocin allows us to experience feelings of love"



Please read this
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131125/how-the-love-hormone-works-its-magic



"When we are intimate with someone, oxytocin, also known as the "love hormone" is released into the body "during intercourse and other forms of intimacy," Dr. Sal Raichbach"

"Oxytocin release causes the sense of trust and makes us miss our partners. People with high levels of testosterone may probably not feel the connection, because this hormone suppresses oxytocin activity."



Love is an emotion how does it teach?
Are you sure your understanding of love isn't based on the western fantasy which you attack.
I never knew you were meant to love one woman your whole life. Men of the past didn't love like that.



Love exist and just as any other emotion is caused by neurophysiological changes.

A man's love is unconditional
A woman's love is conditional

A man loves a woman just because she is a woman
A woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and what he provides.

Well said!

Lightway:


What men want from women..... Women are born with them

What women want from men... Men have to work for them.

There are three things that make the world go round in a natural sense.

Money (resources, food etc)
Pleasure (Sex)
Children

Women are born with the other two... Men are born with none. Men work for money and need pleasure and children from women. To get this, they provide.

Men are born with none?
You mean men are not born with sex organ?
Can women impregnate themselves?

Women are born with pussy and a womb. They need money and get it from men.

Men also need money.

That is how life works in the patriarchy. That is why men think they love women for who they are.

Men don't love her for who she is.. no man can love a woman born with a dick. She is not longer a woman.

That's all

You have arrived.
A man loves a woman because she is a woman. She has feminine characteristics.

CaveAdullam:


Nice summation!

In addendum: The intersexual dynamics, will not say it is complicated but wide and contains a whole lot of nuances that must be understood and puzzled together in order to ensure a successful relationship or have a good knowledge of its framework and mode of operation.

For anyone to mention that men and women are hypergamous by bringing up some absurd linear equation (emotion + knowledge = Hypergamy) is funny and at same time, stupid!

Mr light like I said before has a point, but the framework from which he is defending it is not appropriate.

Hypergamy got two sides: alpha fvcks beta bucks which is rooted in the feminine psyche. He is concentrating on the beta bucks side and how men are exploited which is true. What about the Alpha Fvcks side--- the genuine desire we talk about? That women fvck broke dudes? That women fvck bad boys? We all know that these alphas, jerks or don juans does nothing to win a woman's heart, it just happens! If that's the case, what do we say it is if it is not an emotional attraction called love?

Men love, women love, but how they express this love differs. I agree with Mr light in the aspect of simping, the beta portrayal of love by media outlets and the ignorance men are being led. Although his childishness has warp and woof his brain that he is unable to arrange these pegs accordingly.

Withal, this shouldn't stop us from saying what is true as present until a better knowledge arrive. And no one here knows it all; I grow by learning and interaction and I believe it is same for others. But then, a reasonable individual should set himself aloof from the unintelligent and their emotional whims---if it means not being open-minded, I prefer it rather than be a goalpost for nonsensical melodramas.

Thanks.

PS: Lordcassy, my lord I sight you!

Believe me if he didn't have a point I wouldn't have logged in to reply him. I feel the same way.

ElasmoBranchii:


Men are born with none?
You mean men are not born with sex organ?
Can women impregnate themselves?

Men also need money.

You have arrived.
A man loves a woman because she is a woman. She has feminine characteristics.

Exactly, you see that men love opportunitically as well... Because you're a woman, I love you so if anything happens and I find you're a man, then I don japa.

Simple... But this is more rare.....

ElasmoBranchii:


I took my time to educate myself on what emotions are. That is why I like discussion like this. This is what I found out
"Our emotions are controlled by a group of brain structures called the limbic system. The limbic system releases chemicals which spur on our emotional states. The type of emotion we feel depends on which chemicals have been released. For example, the hormone oxytocin allows us to experience feelings of love"



Please read this
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131125/how-the-love-hormone-works-its-magic



"When we are intimate with someone, oxytocin, also known as the "love hormone" is released into the body "during intercourse and other forms of intimacy," Dr. Sal Raichbach"

"Oxytocin release causes the sense of trust and makes us miss our partners. People with high levels of testosterone may probably not feel the connection, because this hormone suppresses oxytocin activity."



Love is an emotion how does it teach?
Are you sure your understanding of love isn't based on the western fantasy which you attack.
I never knew you were meant to love one woman your whole life. Men of the past didn't love like that.



Love exist and just as any other emotion is caused by neurophysiological changes.

A man's love is unconditional
A woman's love is conditional

A man loves a woman just because she is a woman
A woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and what he provides.

An ignorant man loves a woman just because she is a woman.

A knowledgeable woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and how he contributes to her progression in life.

An ignorant woman loves a man just because he is a man.

A knowledgeable man loves a woman cause of how she makes him feel and how she contributes to his progression in life.

Lightway:


Exactly, you see that men love opportunitically as well... Because you're a woman, I love you so if anything happens and I find you're a man, then I don japa.

Simple... But this is more rare.....

I have told you to bring data and stats to back your claims

You're playing logic
We all know those who have the highest heart breaks between men and women


Its simply because men love sacrificially that's why women are so much in control in relationship games
After all she didn't make any tangible sacrifice




I repeat men love sacrificially


Men love sacrificially

Women love men opportunistically men usually interprete women's submissiveness as love


Women only love their children I repeat

Women only love their children
because that's the only time she has to be sacrificial


Bring your stats I have been waiting for it

ma373733:


I have told you to bring data and stats to back your claims

You're playing logic
We all know those who have the highest heart breaks between men and women


Its simply because men love sacrificially that's why women are so much in control in relationship games
After all she didn't make any tangible sacrifice




I repeat men love sacrificially


Men love sacrificially

Women love men opportunistically men usually interprete women's submissiveness as love


Women only love their children I repeat

Women only love their children
because that's the only time she has to be sacrificial


Bring your stats I have been waiting for it

Heart break occurs when men and women heavily invest in ignorance.

ElasmoBranchii:


Men are born with none?
You mean men are not born with sex organ?
Can women impregnate themselves?



Men also need money.



You have arrived.
A man loves a woman because she is a woman. She has feminine characteristics.

Man loves a woman because she's a woman


Because She has Feminine characteristics


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Lightway:


Exactly, you see that men love opportunitically as well... Because you're a woman, I love you so if anything happens and I find you're a man, then I don japa.

Simple... But this is more rare.....

I rest my case.

Mentholated:


An ignorant man loves a woman just because she is a woman.

A knowledgeable woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and how he contributes to her progression in life.

An ignorant woman loves a man just because he is a man.

A knowledgeable man loves a woman cause of how she makes him feel and how she contributes to his progression in life.

Now you know what a redpiller is.

ma373733:

Man loves a woman because she's a woman

Because She has Feminine characteristics

Kids have invaded this thread

I had to water it down like this to make people understand. Even you that wrote this is yet to understand.
When I say men I mean unenlightened men.

Mentholated:


Heart break occurs when men and women heavily invest in ignorance.

Not really it happens when there's no reciprocity from the other person as expected.

Women in general invest so little men are very sacrificial I'll repeat that again again

The only time women are sacrificial is just having a child that's why they love Thier children .


Men love women women only love Thier children sacrificially

I'm still waiting for his stat
Men have higher rate of heart breaks because they can't easily move on due to Thier sacrifices towards the relationship .
Men have highest sucides half of them are relationship related .

ElasmoBranchii:


I had to water it down like this to make people understand.
Even you that wrote this is yet to understand.

When I say men I mean unenlightened men.

K

Rim job is ‘ass eating’ btw

ma373733:


Not really it happens when there's no reciprocity from the other person as expected.

Women in general invest so little men are very sacrificial I'll repeat that again again

The only time women are sacrificial is just having a child that's why they love Thier children .


Men love women women only love Thier children sacrificially

I'm still waiting for his stat
Men have higher rate of heart breaks because they can't easily move on due to Thier sacrifices towards the relationship .
Men have highest sucides half of them are relationship related .

Men have a higher rate of heart breaks because they are generally more ignorant than women in relationship matters.

Women love their children opportunistically.

Just a friendly reminder:
Non-neediness is attractive. Even if you don’t have a life, create the illusion that you do. Stop languishing in her dms with pointless conversations. If you’re bored, don’t call her. Stop explaining yourself like a timid 9 year old boy. Women are all about “NOW” , they don’t give af about all the nice things you did yesterday. Don’t let any girl make you think they are innocent or naive, they are not!!! The moment you believe they are, you’ll almost never get what you want with them.

been learning alot from this argument/debate kudos to the guys that have been contributing

Mentholated:

Men have a higher rate of heart breaks because they are generally more ignorant than women in relationship matters.

Women love their children opportunistically.

Another one

Mentholated:

Men have a higher rate of heart breaks because they are generally more ignorant than women in relationship matters.

Women love their children opportunistically.

They're not ignorant per say they're just following what our instincts tells us .women are not even better as well they just follow Thier instincts


Just like wolves
The alpha male of the pack has to defend the pack against outsiders and also hunt with or without the females to provide for th young and his mates .

Now if another male comes and overpower him
The females instinctually forget about the other guy .start mating with him without giving a fvvck what the other alpha had done for and her offsprings

To females is all about survival by recieving

To males is all about survival by giving

Women are no different

Mentholated:

Men have a higher rate of heart breaks because they are generally more ignorant than women in relationship matters.

Women love their children opportunistically.

Another claim without facts to back it up

How do they love Thier children opportunistically? Elaborate

ma373733:

They're not ignorant per say they're just following what our instincts tells us .women are not even better as well they just follow Thier instincts


Just like wolves
The alpha male of the pack has to defend the pack against outsiders and also hunt with or without the females to provide for th young and his mates .

Now if another male comes and overpower him
The females instinctually forget about the other guy .start mating with him without giving a fvvck what the other alpha had done for and her offsprings

To females is all about survival by recieving

To males is all about survival by giving

Women are no different

Human being are animals anymore. We have evolved... Animals don't have feminism

Damn! Just too sad. Stay woke, stay redpilled.

Lightway:


Human being are animals anymore. We have evolved... Animals don't have feminism

That's not a good logic

We're animals
And we'll always be

Survival is the ultimate thing here.

ma373733:


Another claim without facts to back it up

How do they love Thier children opportunistically? Elaborate

Why do women have children?

Why do women abort their children when the situation is not favourable for them ( women).

Women worldwide have children for selfish reasons.

The interest of the child is barely considered.

An extremely poor couple will still desire to have kids for their own protection without considering the best interest of their children.

If a woman is 100% sure that she will not benefit anything from a child, she will never have that child.

Women worldwide have children for companionship, protection and a sense of fulfilment.

All self interest.

Oh ok, not surprised. Flavor has the body, Future the toxic type. Another classical example that women are attracted to bad boys. Both men have multiple baby mamas, she’s a feminist and you wonder why she’s still attracted to such men, what happened to intentional and real men like Will Smith and Russell?

Mentholated:


Why do women have children?

Why do women abort their children when the situation is not favourable for them ( women).

Women worldwide have children for selfish reasons.

The interest of the child is never considered.

An extremely poor couple will still desire to have kids for their own protection without considering the best interest of their children.

If a woman is 100% sure that she will not benefit anything from a child, she will never have that child.

Women worldwide have children for companionship, protection and sense of fulfilment.

All self interest.

Not really all animals have the instinct to procreate sha.
I still get you .

RikudoSennin:
Women say they wanna rule the world? I wish they can. I would love to see the chaos, ironically, they will get betrayed by their fellow gender. Chaos happened at my second job yesterday. Women empowering women, you would love to see it . I will drop the gist this weekend when I have the chance. Stay safe and keep overdosing on the red pill amigos.

I had an eventful weekend with friends, I will come to this later but man, how do you guys cope texting Nigerian girls? one word answers, entitled replies. E-slap needs to be invented, some bitches need it. Keep popping them pills, stay safe.

ma373733:


Not really all animals have the instinct to procreate sha.
I still get you .

Human instinct evolve to protect our selfish interest. The moment that interest becomes irrelevant, that instinct dies.

The instinct to have children is slowly dying in developed countries because their government offers them the protection they need till death.

Mentholated

Your points are top notch.

Love is a social construct

Men don't fall in love

Don't deceive yourself.

You can never love a woman