fstranger3:

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Nah; people dont see rational arguments

alj harem1:

not only that, the north east will wants states as well, he can not favour the SE over the country

but lets see if he would

Cue:

i hate it when people are so blinded wth ethnic bile, and i aint talkin bout u jason,cos your tryn to do this intellectually, everyone else has 6 at least and some have 7, one and only one has 5.its easier to bring the 5 to 6,than to raise all the sixes to sevens, dat being rational and is an arguement easier put forward, its dat simple and is even generally accepted already!!!

Cue:

u also need to understand the origin of the arguement.its not just about creating states,its about revenue allocation in Nigeria,cos its structured along state lines, its imbalance  in development opportunities,

Cue:

i hate it when people are so blinded wth ethnic bile, and i aint talkin bout u jason,cos your tryn to do this intellectually, everyone else has 6 at least and some have 7, one and only one has 5.its easier to bring the 5 to 6,than to raise all the sixes to sevens, dat being rational and is an arguement easier put forward, its dat simple and is even generally accepted already!!!

fstranger3:

Inferiority complex? Igbos? Sounds familiar?

Cue:

i hate it when people are so blinded wth ethnic bile, and i aint talkin bout u jason,cos your tryn to do this intellectually, everyone else has 6 at least and some have 7, one and only one has 5.its easier to bring the 5 to 6,than to raise all the sixes to sevens, dat being rational and is an arguement easier put forward, its dat simple and is even generally accepted already!!!

Obiagu1:

If that is true, give me the estimate of Urhobo, Isoko and Ijaw.

Obiagu1:

^^^

NC is 6.  

Cue:

Ibos Inferior, LMAO.  vis a vis who?who disappears under the table when the lion roars?who runs when the source of danger has not even yet been identified?inferiority Complex?who practised the mornachy system of government in nigeria where people are subjugated to one individual dats a lord over them and who in nigeria has been a democracy from day one?THE ibos hav had a parliaimentary system of govt from day one,while your oba's regined supreme.as per inferiority complex,d xact opposite is the ibos.they come to your place,and they take it over.that my friend,is not inferiority complex.I think its more of the superiority kind ,

jason123:

Abuja is not a state, its a federal territory. In fact, its the true definition of "no man's land"

alj harem1:

jason NC IS 6 states without abuja

dayokanu:

I thought NE was 7

Bauchi, Gombe, Jigawa, Borno, Yobe, Adamawa, taraba

NW- Zamfara, Kebbi, Sokoto, Kano, Katsina, Kaduna

NC- Kwara, Niger, Nassarawa, Plateau, Benue, Kogi

dayokanu:

I thought NE was 7

Bauchi, Gombe, Jigawa, Borno, Yobe, Adamawa, taraba

NW- Zamfara, Kebbi, Sokoto, Kano, Katsina, Kaduna, Jigawa

NC- Kwara, Niger, Nassarawa, Plateau, Benue, Kogi

alj harem1:

jason see

jason123:

I miss counted. My bad.

Btw, I thought Ondo was part of the SS

Obiagu1:

Cue:

@ Alh remi.I like your reasonin.at least u try to back up urs with logic.but d population figures say nothing about d real pic of Ibos.they are too many in other people's lands and were so when naija was counted.moreover a lot of people were not counted cos officials didnt show up in many places and sensitization was not done so peeps sisnt see d importance.Moreover the census was rigged.clearest example is when they said kano was more populous than lagos.scandalous,

Obiagu1:

@ PhysicsMND,

Ok, then 30% I used should be correct.

Does it mean that Urhobos are up to 50% ?

eku_bear:

@Obiagu1:

Let's make the following (imo, generous) assumptions:


SE, 98% Igbo, 7028560
Rivers State, 70% Igbo, 2419057
Delta, 30% Igbo, 1900055
Lagos, 20% Igbo, 6247845
SW minus Lagos, 2% Igbo, 8050511
Northern Nigeria, 5% Igbo, 33.11 million

Let's multiply and add up:
octave:22> 7028560*0.98+2419057*.7+1900055*.3+6247845*.2+8050511*.02+33.11*1e6*.05
ans =  1.2217e+07


We get 12.217 million Igbo votes including the North, 10.562 million excluding it. So you are getting 1.655 million additional votes in the North.

Let's do the same for Yoruba:
SW - Lagos, 95% Yoruba, 8050511
Lagos, 50% Yoruba, 6247845
Kwara, 85% Yoruba, 1115665
Kogi, 25% Yoruba, 1215405
Rest of North, 1%, 33.11*1e6 - 1115665 - 1215405

Multiply and add up:
octave:27> 8050511*.95+6247845*.5+1115665*.85+1215405*.25+.01*(33.11*1e6-1115665-1215405)
ans =  1.2332e+07

So 12.332 million Yoruba votes including Kwara and Kogi and the North, 10.772 million in the SW alone. So 115k more Yoruba votes than Igbo, even
assuming that the North is as populated as they claim.

But what if we slash this Northern population in half? Including Kwara and Kogi? Igbo votes:
octave:35> 7028560*0.98+2419057*.7+1900055*.3+6247845*.2+8050511*.02+33.11*1e6*.05*1/2
ans =  1.1390e+07

Yoruba votes:
octave:36> 8050511*.95+6247845*.5+1/2*(1115665*.85+1215405*.25+.01*(33.11*1e6-1115665-1215405))
ans =  1.1552e+07

Our advantage has increased slightly, from 115k to 162k votes.

This in a nutshell is why I'm not convinced that Igbo are the most numerous anymore. The assumptions here I think were somewht generous:
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[*] I assumed 20% of Lagos is Igbo, only 50% of Lagos is Yoruba. My suspicion is something more like 60%/15% might be more accurate.
[*] I also gave you 70% of Rivers.
[*] And assumed that 1 out of every 20 residents of the North are Igbo.
[*] In the first calculation, I accepted the Northern %s on face value.
[/list]

But despite this, it appears that Yoruba are more numerous.

Cue:

Sorry Alhaji,its absolutely impossible that kano is bigger than lagos.u talk bout chad and Niger when we talk bout thousands and thousands of people migrating to lagos daily from other parts of the country?its IMPOSSIBLE and not even a topic for arguement.  
But I dont know why u guys keep talkin about voting strenght?Dont u Guys kno how presidential elections are won?
I said it b4, ITS AT LEAST 2/3 OF ALL VOTES CAST IN AT LEAST 2/3 OF ALL STATES IN NIGERIA!!!!!NOT SIMPLE MAJORITY.
And because of this,all states have equal strenght and count as one,irrespective of population, !!!

Obiagu1:

@ eku_bear, clever boy lol.

Now you dropped Igbo population in Lagos to 20%. Good. If Yoruba population in Kwara is 85%, then Kwara is a Yoruba state and there won't be this clamour for Oya State (Yoruba speakers in Kwara and Kogi). Really clever from you