ospido:



Don't mind him.
Because millennium was mentioned there oh this must be a Jehovah's witness.

Your analogy is very correct.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
From this beginning to when man was formed,no one knows how long it took. It must have been thousands or perhaps millions of years.
Jesus even made reference to this time period in John 17:5 where he referred to the bond between him and his father before the world came into existed.
This is in addition to your point that animals were created before man and the days are not to be taken literally.
Thank you brother.

May Jehovah continued to be praised my dear brother. Reading comments here makes me value the Truth more and more. There is no greater freedom that comes with knowing the truth - the world is truly in darkness - it saddens my heart most times. May we live to continue to cherish the truth all our days even to all eternity. Hope you enjoyed the conventions. Thank God it was recorded, to be enjoyed again and again. What a great spiritual provision at this time! Only in Jehovah's Organization can such spiritual food be served especially at this time. Thanks for contribution too.

BeLookingIDIOT:


This is simply archaeologists doing their jobs. They are not trying to confirm your bible which have already been academically established as unreliable.

With your username it really show you are a big Idiot and that is why you are looking Idiot.

Must you reason from your anus before commenting on a reasonable post.

Investnow2017:

May Jehovah continued to be praised my dear brother. Reading comments here makes me value the Truth more and more. There is no greater freedom that comes with knowing the truth - the world is truly in darkness - it saddens my heart most times. May we live to continue to cherish the truth all our days even to all eternity. Hope you enjoyed the conventions. Thank God it was recorded, to be enjoyed again and again. What a great spiritual provision at this time! Only in Jehovah's Organization can such spiritual food be served especially at this time. Thanks for contribution too.

You're welcome brother.
I did enjoy the regional convention with my family.
And i have derived a lot from the sessions as against how it was when we used to gather due to my assignment in the Audio/Video department.
I now have all the 12 videos.
Hope you enjoyed yours too.
Kindly commend me to all.

Pls fellow christians, where can i get detailed and accurate information on biblical history.

I'm interested in reading the whole biblical history and archaeology.
Theologians in the house pls?

kingxsamz:

Watch how people display their stupidity on this thread.
These same folks who have refused anything that has to do with millions of years would jump on this to claim that it validates some books about talking snakes and talking donkeys.
What some mofos don't know is that certain stories in the bible are based on real places that were present at the time it was written.. Same way the spiderman movie is based on a location, New York. But sadly, people don't think.

it has been there before they wrote the bible ...

the faithfools thinks they have won..lol I pity their poor brains ..

kingxsamz:


You should consider not mentioning me 10 times a day

i considered it. i don't.

bottlewater1:


that's how you people run into problems

if you have common sense you will understand what I said

you can see I was the first to comment if I didn't read I would have done that

idiot

Na rain cause fowl and tiger to be ij the same cage.

Ancient Civilization.

bottlewater1:
wetin be this again

The time is here; evidence of all biblical events all shown in our time. No need to doubt anymore

Righteousness89:
Great Work from the Archaeologists and Scientists.
Of Recent they Have been Coming up with Physical and Tangible Evidence of Matters and Events in the Holy Bible that Many have argued about..

For Me, I do not Need any Scientist or Archaeologists to Show Evidence before I Believe.
The Holy Bible is My Evidence . I Believe with all of My Heart and Soul Every Word of the Bible..

I don't Need an Archaeologist to tell me Jerusalem Belongs to Isreal!
I Don't Need a Scientist to tell me Isreal is God's Elect Nation..

These things are not Discovered in these times for Fun..

I Believe The Almighty God is Doing Everything Possible for People to Believe in Him, Surrender to Him and Be Saved From the Wrath to Come.

I Believe The Almighty God, The God of Abramham, Isaac and Isreal is allowing these things So that those who are still Pondering between two Opinions will Understand that The God of Isreal in the Bible is Alive Today and is The Orginal GOD..

This Same Holy Bible Records the Endtimes Events we are seeing All over the Nations

This Same Holy Bible Announced Clearly that JESUS is Coming to Snatch His Children away..

For the Scoffers and Arguers, Drop that sense you feel you feel you Have..

If you Miss Heaven! You Must Cry...

Humble yourself! Do away with Sin and Surrender to JESUS! So you are not Left Behind..

Be Rapture Ready!

There is No More Time!

Elect seed of kingdom age Gospel program ride on

BeLookingIDIOT:


This is simply archaeologists doing their jobs. They are not trying to confirm your bible which have already been academically established as unreliable.

wow wonderful just as scientists confirmed that you came from apes

Pelecius:


You know, I had to check your questions again and started laughing when I saw his response.
The problem that evolution has is that it has no 'miracle worker' for its miracles. When you talk about adaptation, that clearly is not the core theory of evolution but that is what they always throw at your face. We want to know
1. How the first lifeless chemicals defied the law of biogenesis and formed the first life?
2. The human genome is comprised of 23 pairs of linear chromosomes, and approximately 3000 megabases (Mb) of DNA, while the genome of the bacterium Escherichia coli consists of a single 4.6 Mb circular chromosome. That is a difference of around 2995 mega bases or still 3 × 10⁹. If humans branched out after millions of years in the evolutionary tree, where did the information of that magnitude come from because there is NO KNOWN MECHANISM THAT INCREASES THE INFORMATION CONTENT OF GENOME OF ANY ORGANISM.
3. Again, it has been shown that the information in the human genome is densely stored in 3D. Let’s look at the amount of information that could be contained in a pinhead volume of DNA. If all this information were written into paperback books, it would make a pile of such books 500 times higher than from here to the moon. How could mindless and purposeless chemicals achieve this feat?

Other 'miracles' are there such as NOTHING exploding to create everything and others, but no 'miracle worker' to do such miracles.

Don't mind him. I'm sure he knows I'm more intelligent than him. I knew he'd not wish to make a mistske to harp on evolution nah . I'd have published a book for him here . But you know what? He'd still not accept my submission even though in his inner mind, I'm talking sense. I'm also a scientist by the way. I'm an agric scientist and I've done veritable researches on DNA in plants partly sponsoeed by UN. Evolution is a hoax and lies of the ages.

here on Nairaland, na every Sunday dem day unveil new place for bible. . pls what happened to Friday and Saturday.

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Righteousness89:
Great Work from the Archaeologists and Scientists.
Of Recent they Have been Coming up with Physical and Tangible Evidence of Matters and Events in the Holy Bible that Many have argued about..

For Me, I do not Need any Scientist or Archaeologists to Show Evidence before I Believe.
The Holy Bible is My Evidence . I Believe with all of My Heart and Soul Every Word of the Bible..

I don't Need an Archaeologist to tell me Jerusalem Belongs to Isreal!
I Don't Need a Scientist to tell me Isreal is God's Elect Nation..

These things are not Discovered in these times for Fun..

I Believe The Almighty God is Doing Everything Possible for People to Believe in Him, Surrender to Him and Be Saved From the Wrath to Come.

I Believe The Almighty God, The God of Abramham, Isaac and Isreal is allowing these things So that those who are still Pondering between two Opinions will Understand that The God of Isreal in the Bible is Alive Today and is The Orginal GOD..

This Same Holy Bible Records the Endtimes Events we are seeing All over the Nations

This Same Holy Bible Announced Clearly that JESUS is Coming to Snatch His Children away..

For the Scoffers and Arguers, Drop that sense you feel you feel you Have..

If you Miss Heaven! You Must Cry...

Humble yourself! Do away with Sin and Surrender to JESUS! So you are not Left Behind..

Be Rapture Ready!

There is No More Time!

[/s]
RUBBISH

You speak as though you have no Faith. Or that those who believe in God are somewhat delusional. But if you believe that something can come from nothing, there really isn't much to share in a conversation with you is there?

kingxsamz:

Watch how people display their stupidity on this thread.
These same folks who have refused anything that has to do with millions of years would jump on this to claim that it validates some books about talking snakes and talking donkeys.
What some mofos don't know is that certain stories in the bible are based on real places that were present at the time it was written.. Same way the spiderman movie is based on a location, New York. But sadly, people don't think.

ospido:



Thank you my brother for your candour and forthrightness.
I really appreciate even the objectivity of your comment too.

W.r.t Noah's Ark, one question many have asked is what is that massive/giant structure doing up there on top of that mountain?
How did it get there in the first place and then got stocked in the mountain up there?
Did it fall from space or did some persons pushed or dragged it up to that peak?
And indeed many scientists bared their minds on that discovery too pointing to it's authenticity.
If you watch the complete recordings/videos plus the write ups and match them together you'll get a clearer picture.
On the Ark of the covenant,you noticed i didn't include it in my comment obviously because am still studying the research work.
I was in the Ethiopia some years back to get a glimpse of the Ark of the covenant alleged to have been found there but it didn't add up at all.
But this one found by Wyatt contained some facts though am still on it. The more I'm studying it the more it's getting interesting.
On the chromosome thing, i got pissed of at first but when i remembered that Jesus didn't have a human father,the concept began to make some sort of sense. Because the whole thing tilted to his mother's genes only just as it was mentioned in the findings.
True, Wyatt may have gone too far in his description but i think it's a burning zeal
Please find time to watch them alongside other work just as am doing.
After this i'll be going to examine his Sodom's work.
Enjoy your day.

Thank you for your kind words Sir and for your work towards God's kingdom.
I'll definitely go over those works again to see if there's what one can put together to make sense of those important relics. I just have this concept of working with what is defend-able which was why I gave up on Shroud of Turin (which still remains a mystery to many field of science, but still have fatal flaws).

God bless you Sir

Why do you choose lies and deception.
The Bible has undergone multiple scrutiny and has stood the test of truth - Coherence and Correspondence.

Do you want receipt?

BeLookingIDIOT:


This is simply archaeologists doing their jobs. They are not trying to confirm your bible which have already been academically established as unreliable.

Farki:


You are using answers in genesis and creation ministries which are sites dedicated to upholding biblical myths as your idea of an unbiased source.

The ark replica in Kentucky is unable to support itself otherwise it would collapse. Did you not notice the many scaffoldings holding the thing up.

Your so called "research" paper is also full of shit. The shape of the ark (if it even existed) was not given therefore they are just making their own conclusions based on the assumptions that the model they chose is correct.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc

You won't address the rest of the comment but will make a weak attempt to prove a Middle Eastern folk tale as actual history.

You are really funny.
My problem with NL atheists is that they are so fond of changing goal posts, committing red herring fallacy whenever they are caught with misinformation.
I gave that long response to what I bolded in your comment which was “Noah's ark is physically impossible and has been proven to not be a stable vessel ironically by Ken Ham himself…”
That was the purpose of my response and I don’t need to attend to your bait and switch tactic of talking about bacteria resistance or peppered moths of fossil record because someone already took you on concerning that, but you employed NL atheists best weapon – red herring.
“You are using answers in genesis and creation ministries which are sites dedicated to upholding biblical myths as your idea of an unbiased source”
I was expecting this anyway which was why I added the work by some scientist from Leicester University. You wouldn’t tell me that you didn’t see that (except that you did not check the link which is not an excuse), but the use of misinformation to prove your point is a common trait among many God haters
Again, I didn’t use answers in Genesis to prove it’s stability. I exposed your misinformation about Ken Ham and I used his website to prove it.
The ark replica was not built to really be like a ship but like a house, hence the need for scaffolds. If you had checked the link, you wouldn’t make this blunder again.
I really doubt if you actually went through the paper in the first place for saying it is full of shit. Typical of folks like you who would ridicule the best of science just because it lends support to the Bible. These are men that are qualified and armed with the knowledge of ship building and naval architecture. So it doesn’t matter if creation ministries got permission from them to post their work on her site.
As for the Youtube link, I would love that you heed the Biblical wisdom from Proverbs 18:17 which says
“he who states his case first seems right, until his rival comes and cross-examines him”.
Though, life debate may seem to short to refute his cases, most have been refuted long before the debate and the omissions where added.

Folks like you may not bother to check even if you were shown where to study in-depth and make your objective conclusion, rather, you feed on misinformation and spread it.
I decided to answer your misinformation again even when you already shifted the goal post since you were not able to retract your misinformation.

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OtemAtum:


This is an irony.
You see it like this because your reality has been soaked in the lies of religion from your childhood till date. Your case is like the case of a prisoner who's blinking to a bright light because his eyes have been accustomed to the darkness of the prison for ages. Slowly you will come to the true realisation of yourself. Peace

You're being delusional and daft actually because you've not made any point I can actually hold on to...but I'll ask you just a question "how did man exist"

ospido:


An Atheist/Evolutionist will always be one.
They said "give us independent sources to prove the authenticity or otherwise of the Bible, Jesus" etc. You have also done such judiciously and he's still blabbing.
Josephus is a renowned historian who wrote about things that happened in the 1st century and beyond.
Or were they expecting an Olatubosun or Chinua Achebe or an Ekwensi to write first before they believe?
Look at the deluge of questions you're throwing at them.
Am yet to see any answer let alone it being reasonable.
There's a reason why God is revealing these things at this time of the end.
More will be revealed.

I laughed hard when I saw the bolded. Maybe that was what they expect truly. Lol
I want to believe that most of them don’t do proper checking and worse, some don’t have basic understanding of some of the things they come to debate. If they doubt Josephus’ works, then they should discard all ancient history
They don’t answer most questions that Christians ask them. If the eventually respond, they usually take a diversionary tactic and shift the goal post.
I agree with you
Have a nice day Sir

Pelecius:


You are really funny.
My problem with NL atheists is that they are so fond of changing goal posts, committing red herring fallacy whenever they are caught with misinformation.
I gave that long response to what I bolded in your comment which was “Noah's ark is physically impossible and has been proven to not be a stable vessel ironically by Ken Ham himself…”

“You are using answers in genesis and creation ministries which are sites dedicated to upholding biblical myths as your idea of an unbiased source”
I was expecting this anyway which was why I added the work by some scientist from Leicester University. You wouldn’t tell me that you didn’t see that (except that you did not check the link which is not an excuse), but the use of misinformation to prove your point is a common trait among many God haters
Again, I didn’t use answers in Genesis to prove it’s stability. I exposed your misinformation about Ken Ham and I used his website to prove it.
The ark replica was not built to really be like a ship but like a house, hence the need for scaffolds. If you had checked the link, you wouldn’t make this blunder again.
I really doubt if you actually went through the paper in the first place for saying it is full of shit. Typical of folks like you who would ridicule the best of science just because it lends support to the Bible. These are men that are qualified and armed with the knowledge of ship building and naval architecture. So it doesn’t matter if creation ministries got permission from them to post their work on her site.
As for the Youtube link, I would love that you heed the Biblical wisdom from Proverbs 18:17 which says
“he who states his case first seems right, until his rival comes and cross-examines him”.
Though, life debate may seem to short to refute his cases, most have been refuted long before the debate and the omissions where added.

Folks like you may not bother to check even if you were shown where to study in-depth and make your objective conclusion, rather, you feed on misinformation and spread it.
I decided to answer your misinformation again even when you already shifted the goal post since you were not able to retract your misinformation.

This isn't the "best of science" this is literally creation "science" which is a pseudoscience and is not taken seriously by any academic body.

The Leicester study determined that it would float in theory, did they determine that it would be a stable vessel for 100+ days of intense floods? No because attempts to recreate such a boat out of wooden materials have failed. This isn't even a taking into account the many inaccuracies of the story like how the animals behaved, fed, maintained their temperature and stopped themselves from killing each other.

You also thought you were smart and that I didn't catch the acknowledgement in the Korean "study".

Acknowledgement
This work was fully supported by the Korea Association of Creation Research.

That was the purpose of my response and I don’t need to attend to your bait and switch tactic of talking about bacteria resistance or peppered moths of fossil record because someone already took you on concerning that, but you employed NL atheists best weapon – red herring

You said evolution isn't happening, I gave hard evidence and you ignored it because it directly shows you were wrong. You are arguing with yourself on this one.

Farki:


This isn't the "best of science" this is literally creation "science" which is a pseudoscience and is not taken seriously by any academic body.

The Leicester study determined that it would float in theory, did they determine that it would be a stable vessel for 100+ days of intense floods? No because attempts to recreate such a boat out of wooden materials have failed. This isn't even a taking into account the many inaccuracies of the story like how the animals behaved, fed, maintained their temperature and stopped themselves from killing each other.

You also thought you were smart and that I didn't catch the acknowledgement in the Korean "study".





You said evolution isn't happening, I gave hard evidence and you ignored it because it directly shows you were wrong. You are arguing with yourself on this one.

“This isn't the "best of science" this is literally creation "science" which is a pseudoscience…”
You are really just funny. Does known laws of Physics and Chemistry or even Mathematics change because the Bible is involved (excluding miracles)? If yes, how? If no, then why do you call it pseudoscience? (please, my argument is on use of the principles of scientific laws in case you want to attack strawman)

“The Leicester study determined that it would float in theory, did they determine that it would be a stable vessel for 100+ days of intense floods?”
That is arguing from silence. They didn’t say it won’t be stable in such flood, what they calculated was it’s buoyancy. So, it is still begging the question. Again, why do you expect a God hater to do research on Noah’s Ark? What do you think would happen if his results are to agree with the works done by Bible believing Scientist? Do you even know the censorship that happens in academia, that works which give credence to creation will NEVER be allowed to pass through secular peer reviewed journals, no matter the evidence? You can check this link
http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html
You said attempt to create such from wooden materials have failed but what did Ken Ham used though he built it more like a house.
“This isn't even a taking into account the many inaccuracies of the story like how the animals behaved, fed, maintained their temperature and stopped themselves from killing each other.”
You need to be informed on creationist literature so as not to be repeating stale and refuted claims.

How is me thinking I am smart related to you not seeing acknowledgment in a paper that I sent to you to READ. You are just funny.
Again, how does who sponsors change the laws of nature that was used in a research work? Of course, you are smart

I have talked about those so called evidence before and that those resistance is usually attributed to loss of function which make it difficult for the bacteria to bind to the antibiotic, hence becoming resistant. But no new feature is formed as evolutionist would want us to believe.
As for the peppered moths, though serious work has been done (in desperate attempt) to save the errors that genetics have shown on how the initial evolutionary story has issues. But this work eventually shows that there is a mutation which is responsible for the difference in coloration of the wings of the two moth types and not the initial story of industrial melanism. This only shows that it is more of a variation between the gene pool in peppered moths and has nothing to do with how a peppered moth should change to another insect or later, gradually become human over millions of years.
Fossil record was actually interpreted to fit the evolutionary paradigm. Creationists also interpreted it to fit the creation/flood model. So, bias is into play here and not hard science. The same data, different interpretation which all fits the different paradigms. It even get worse for evolutionist whenever you get a fossil in a strata that is millions of years older than that of another organism that is supposed to be its ancestor. Funny right? You won’t see such reports

Eriokanmi:
Don't mind him. I'm sure he knows I'm more intelligent than him. I knew he'd not wish to make a mistske to harp on evolution nah . I'd have published a book for him here . But you know what? He'd still not accept my submission even though in his inner mind, I'm talking sense. I'm also a scientist by the way. I'm an agric scientist and I've done veritable researches on DNA in plants partly sponsoeed by UN. Evolution is a hoax and lies of the ages.

Weldon Sir
Of course, he would run. Smart people would follow the evidence where ever it leads but my NL atheists will ignore evidence and yet be calling people ignorant.
God be with you

Coloradowater:

So white man tradition that was forced down into your ancestors throat is better than your tradition, you're stupid!

Your generation are stupid, mad, insane, more or less fools.

Parisian:
When that same spider Man book also has hundreds of prophecies that have been fufilled and are still being fufilled 2,000 years later and also contains knowledge of things which absolutely no man knew and even needed modern technology to prove like the Bible does then yes that spider Man book will become factual and validated.

They are switching topic now
Prophecies my foot

Parisian:
[My dear it is you that's displaying crass stupidity.

The Bible remains the most historically accurate book in all of history.

Kiss the truth.

Anyone can make statements

Jonra:
Why do you choose lies and deception.
The Bible has undergone multiple scrutiny and has stood the test of truth - Coherence and Correspondence.

Do you want receipt?

They told you that in your bible study classes abi?

E

That reply wasn’t meant fir you but I’m real glad you’re scholastic enough to reply with constructive criticism.
Joesphus first you would be truthful about his historicity was never neutral. Maybe you need to understand the social conditions of literature. No man and I commit this fallacy boldly and eloquently. No man can write without bias!!! Even I writing this is biased. It’s like the problem of rhetoric where the sceptic knows he does not know but knows that he does not know. You Dey feel me.
Religious questions don’t have straight answers. Why do you believe Jesus existed? You would refer to Josephus. Now you see who is actually non sequitor. Jesus existed because Josephus said Jesus existed? That’s unwittingly dumb!!!
Once again please do you really know Josephus? Josephus had always being an active enemy of Nero. Never in his existence had he worked or loved him. He hated him for hating Jews how would he support his hate for Christians without being his friend. Now you see the problem in academia. The pot must call the kettle black in-order to be white. It’s a modus ponens operandi. Without it we would not have viewpoints and values. I am moral because my neighbor is immoral. Without him being immoral I am not moral. How would you know evil without good? Do you understand all this?
Josephus writing about Jesus is as much as other historians who wrote of him as a rabbi. Teacher. Magician. Yes. Many historians knew him as a magician. The Scandinavians knew him as a magician. Politician. Redeemer. War lord. The thief asked him to save himself before he can save the world. People in his time did not even support him. So if Jesus existed he is the messiah? If trump existed he is the antichrist as the Armageddon posited posit?
Bro this thing na just English. Only death can bring this to our knowledge of not it would always be mystery.
Science is different from humanities.
2 plus 2 is 4 is a scientific mathematical question. It is a straight answer. Does Jesus exist? Is this a humanities or social science or science question?
Once again. Not all Nigerians are gullible.

Pelecius:


“It is saddening that so called scholars are the same people who are quick to perform the error of jumping into conclusions.”
This is very true. People do make mistakes and that is a TRUTH which can be deduced from the scripture that as human, we are bound to make mistakes, even the smart ones.

“If you’re as academic and intellectual as you claim I think you should not have blatantly committed the fallacy of appeal to authority and appeal to character.
So because Josephus was not a Christian what he wrote about the history of Christians is true and infallible.”
First of all, I don’t see where I claimed to be ‘academic and intellectual’. I don’t know how you jumped to that conclusion of me CLAIMING such. This just proved your first sentence true that humans make mistakes.
Secondly, I didn’t talk about Josephus (or Tacitus) not to talk of appealing to their works. Maybe you wanted to quote the person who picked up the challenge to provide independent sources which confirms the historicity of Jesus, I don’t know.
Thirdly, if your response was actually meant for him, then you are actually made another mistake. Him quoting Tacitus is NEVER an appeal to authority because Tacitus is a hostile witness. It is one of the tool used in historical methods, except you have a better guideline for historical methods which should replace the use of hostile witness. And without committing argument ad populum, historicity of Jesus is a well attested fact among historians and everyone who understands how authenticity of historical sources are determined.

“…even the most brilliants of minds to ever walk this earth or ever to come would never ever ever have a straight answer to religious questions.”
I wished you were more careful while writing this, but looks like you were more driven by emotions than the person you respond to. Not having straight answers to religious questions is a broad generalization because it would be so stupid for anyone to go with what he does not understand AT ALL. The truth is that there are no answers to ALL questions, religion included (not even science is excluded) because we don’t always have the data. But for questions like; “did Jesus ever exist on earth?” the straight answer to that is YES. This falls under a religious question, doesn’t it?
And talking about bias, it is true that everyone has bias because of our paradigm. It is seen in scientific circles also and it is just the reason for disagreement between intellectuals. Though you seem to sound objective, your post still echoes bias and emotions. I definitely agree with you on that.

“Please understand logic and fallacy before writing as not all Nigerians are gullible.
It would interest you to know Josephus was a Jewish soldier and politician who had numerous fights and conquest with Nero.”
If you really understand why Josephus was quoted, you should know that you are the one who is committing non sequitur fallacy. He has no reason to talk about Christ because at the time of writing the works in which he mentioned Christ, he has nothing to do with Christianity and he was working with the Roman government. Again, he wasn’t writing an apologetic work, rather, he was writing the Jewish history and mentioned an event among the Christian which he traced back to the founder – Christ. I don’t see how your argument works here because Josephus can largely be seen as a neutral witness when trying to be generous while Tacitus may be seen as a hostile witness as a Roman Politician.
So sorry sir, your argument does not follow. For you that know about fallacy, I don’t expect that you would make those mistakes.

“Fallacy is a big problem amongst even the greatest of minds. Josephus not being a Christian was not remotely needed in your write up. That’s a clear fallacy.”
Again I agree with the first sentence here but as shown, Josephus was an historian who just mentioned an event in his works and that event happens to attest to the historicity of Christ. That he is not a Christian is necessary to avoid fallacy of appealing to authority but how you missed that is what baffles me. Also, Tacitus was mentioned but you seem to ignore it. As for Ron Wyatt, I don’t go with all his discoveries, especially those that some things do not add up.

Your statement here is very important
“Painting your enemy black while you’re a kettle is an innate nature in man…”

Pelecius:


“This isn't the "best of science" this is literally creation "science" which is a pseudoscience…”
You are really just funny. Does known laws of Physics and Chemistry or even Mathematics change because the Bible is involved (excluding miracles)? If yes, how? If no, then why do you call it pseudoscience? (please, my argument is on use of the principles of scientific laws in case you want to attack strawman)

That's because it requires known scientific principles, paleontology and archeology to be discarded or reinterpreted to prove the Biblical narrative as fact

https://www.nap.edu/read/6024/chapter/1#ix

It starts with the conclusion that the Bible is true then tries to go out of it's way to convince others of the fact, any evidence to the contrary is discarded to creation "scientists".

“The Leicester study determined that it would float in theory, did they determine that it would be a stable vessel for 100+ days of intense floods?”
That is arguing from silence. They didn’t say it won’t be stable in such flood, what they calculated was it’s buoyancy. So, it is still begging the question. Again, why do you expect a God hater to do research on Noah’s Ark? What do you think would happen if his results are to agree with the works done by Bible believing Scientist? Do you even know the censorship that happens in academia, that works which give credence to creation will NEVER be allowed to pass through secular peer reviewed journals, no matter the evidence?

Your work is not censored creation "scientists" simply ignore every scientific finding that is against their worldview in an attempt to prove something with shoddy evidence that relies on faith and pass it off as science. Asking me to entertain such silly stories is like a child demanding that I consider the story of Santa Claus and his magic sleigh to be real because Saint Nicholas was a real person.

You can check this link
http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

Seriously this trash is your idea of a rebuttal, this is less an example of dinosaurs being disproven than a display of your ignorance on this topic.

First Carbon 14 has a half life of 6,000 years with a limit around 60,000 years and is not used to date dinosaur bones.

The samples were found to have been contaminated and obtained under dubious circumstances.

The rocks the samples were gotten from were shown to be 99 million years old.

There are additional errors with this "study" that are looked into with great detail in this link.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/154588/is-it-a-problem-with-radiometric-dating-that-carbon-14-is-found-in-materials-dat/154606

You said attempt to create such from wooden materials have failed but what did Ken Ham used though he built it more like a house.
“This isn't even a taking into account the many inaccuracies of the story like how the animals behaved, fed, maintained their temperature and stopped themselves from killing each other.”
You need to be informed on creationist literature so as not to be repeating stale and refuted claims.

Can Ken Ham's Ark float? Ships of similar length didn't last long at sea yet you want me to believe this roughly and hurriedly constructed ark was seaworthy.

Enough with the creationist rubbish already, stop reading articles by people who's main aim is to misrepresent facts and misinform you. They offer no facts only assumptions which, of course, have no basis in reality. Or you mean to tell me Noah trekked all the way to Australia to get Eucyleptus leaves for the 2 koalas that would be on the ship. If you start taking into account the fact that creationists think dinosaurs were on Noah's ark but didn't consider their nutritional requirements.

How is me thinking I am smart related to you not seeing acknowledgment in a paper that I sent to you to READ. You are just funny.
Again, how does who sponsors change the laws of nature that was used in a research work? Of course, you are smart

Do you really think creation "scientists" would consider any information or publish any finding or construct any study which doesn't "prove" biblical claims. Just like they keep finding Noah's ark in different locations every year and they are 100% certain every time.

I have talked about those so called evidence before and that those resistance is usually attributed to loss of function which make it difficult for the bacteria to bind to the antibiotic, hence becoming resistant. But no new feature is formed as evolutionist would want us to believe.

You literally just described the bacteria developing new features which enable them to survive and adapt to a changing environment. Are you being obtuse on purpose?

As for the peppered moths, though serious work has been done (in desperate attempt) to save the errors that genetics have shown on how the initial evolutionary story has issues. But this work eventually shows that there is a mutation which is responsible for the difference in coloration of the wings of the two moth types and not the initial story of industrial melanism. This only shows that it is more of a variation between the gene pool in peppered moths and has nothing to do with how a peppered moth should change to another insect or later, gradually become human over millions of years.
Fossil record was actually interpreted to fit the evolutionary paradigm. Creationists also interpreted it to fit the creation/flood model. So, bias is into play here and not hard science. The same data, different interpretation which all fits the different paradigms. It even get worse for evolutionist whenever you get a fossil in a strata that is millions of years older than that of another organism that is supposed to be its ancestor. Funny right? You won’t see such reports

Again you just described evolution, where specific traits are selected over time due to environmental pressures. What could have been a minor mutation in a dozen organisms was allowed to spread. The peppered moth only appeared within the last 200 years.

You keep bringing up strawman arguments in order to (badly) claim evolution is false while simultaneously defending a falsehood. Maybe it's because you are unable to truly grasp how long several million years is.
White people with blue eyes only appeared several thousand years ago.

Concerning your paragraph about interpretation there is no "different interpretation" creationists are simply wrong and ignoring decades of research to keep their personal religious beliefs validated. You won't get such glaring problems with the fossil records because it doesn't happen, the video I posted previously stated as much.

Parisian:
Why didn't Africa evolve when there was no religion?

America is the country with the most number of Christians in the world but. It is by far the most powerful nation on earth and if America sneezes the entire world would feel the impact.

It was founded on Christian laws, infact the democracy you practice today derived from judeo-christian doctrines so please tell me how is it that most of the wealthiest nations in the world are Christian and also how most of the countries in the world that value human life are Christian...?

Before Christianity, Soviet Laws, Liberalism, Socialism, Nationalism, Capitalism existed, they may not have been called religion from onset but they were ideologies people practiced and believed.
Christianity and Islam are just sect of people who were unbothered about the answers of unimportant questions "Questions you cannot answer are usually far better for you than answers you cannot question."
Science on the other hand, after the "Discovery of Ignorance" realized that we do not know it all but we can always know if we want
The fact that America still have devoted practicing Christians and Muslims doesn't mean the religion played a vital role in their cognitive revolution, mister man think for a minute and let's do away with these believe that doesn't build Africa rather it divide us and present us as subhumans to the Aryan races, smh I wonder if we would ever evolve on our own... We need our own alphabetical code, language, mathematics, culture and laws to build technology from basic electric lamp to complex nanotechnology intuitively independent of any references they have, maybe that way it may be safe to say AFRICA has undergone cognitive evolution.