CosmicPhoenix:

I have never seen you talk about it anywhere or maybe I missed it somewhere

Gerrard59:


You are a feminazi, so I am not surprised by your outbursts. I have come across you ilks on Twitter. I am here to tell you that I am not the cause of your frustration. Take it elsewhere.

Unam ikot!

Theslumflower:
I will forever advice women to make their own money and be independent. Let your husband know you can do three times what he does when it comes to money.

From the above comments and ones from the thread, it's all about finances. Kill that financial gap and see how everything changes. They won't try it if they respect you because they know you will 100% thrive on your own and this is 21st century, there are hundreds of learned men who will marry a good, hardworking, pretty divorcee lady. Don't let Nairaland fool you.

As of the one up talking about bride price. Nobody forced you to pay. That one concern you and her kinsmen. Funny enough, how much wey you pay sef

Women have so much power. Some just haven't realized it yet, which is sad.

I've seen women that their hubby cheat on their faces and they won't say or do nothing SMH, thereby aiding the act. Definition of giving yourself no singlee value as a lady

Be a financially free woman from your husband and see how things turn around. Like they say, money stops nonsense.

MhisTahrah:
Men can also be said to be hypogamous, your argument goes both ways in fact. They go for women they are richer than in order to subjugate them.One can infer from your post that the majority of men deliberately get married to women who are of lower financial status than them, it also supports my statement that when these women get financial breakthrough and earn more then their husbands, the husbands feel emasculated and misbehave.

angelfallz:


Nice side stepping.

angelfallz:


its not because of bride price. in countries like the USA where men don't pay bride price, don't the men still cheat?

FearlessOG:


Lol!!! I can now see and understand why you chose to restrict the premise of your argument to “just one example.” Superficially, it seems to lend credence to your argument and perhaps, may make sense to you. When examined deeply though, it fails woefully to establish cogency. There’s a very good reason there’s something called a “weight of evidence approach.” Otherwise, anyone can just come up with an assertion/hypothesis, provide one or, at most, two examples, then give themselves a pat on the back for a job well done.

Secondly, the link you provided does not necessarily do justice to your argument, since, as a couple of commenters have rightly noted in this thread (including one with a screenshot for proof), there were also lots of comments from men that condemned cheating in that thread. Furthermore, it is imperative to realize that continuous back and forth between a few monikers with dissenting opinions on a subject matter, thus stretching the thread into several pages, is distinctly different from a preponderance of one gender wholly supporting one specific opinion/school of thought. Learn the difference between the two!!!

When you say that “the instances where females are the oppressors are few and far between” are you again referring to just one specific example? And what is your definition of oppressors? It’ll be important to know these, before I even reply to that statement, so you do not start “side stepping” again, as one Nairalander accurately put it.

Your comment – “these females are almost always tackled (even by other females)” – goes both ways. And permit me to state boldly that there are actually fewer instances where females tackle other females. But I’ll make it even more interesting – In threads with the most vile, hateful, and misogynistic comments from some men, there is no shortage of other men who are tackling them. In threads with the most vile, hateful, and man-hating comments from some women, it is a rarity to see other females tackle their own. A quick example that is very common on Nairaland: When a man makes a downright degrading comment about women, there are other men (and definitely women) that tackle him and apply that same comment to his mother/sister/female relatives. On the contrary, would you be kind enough to show me a thread on Nairaland where a woman makes a downright degrading comment about men, and other females (not men) tackle her and apply that same comment to her father/brother/male relatives? I’ll gladly wait…

Talking about comments being hidden/reported, it also goes both ways. In fact, the last instance of this scenario that I witnessed was a female that reported a male on a “SARS-related thread” and the male’s comments were hidden. This happened just a few days ago. I have chosen not to mention the monikers involved. Do not even dare think that reporting/hiding of comments is a one-way-street.

Lastly, would you be “honest with yourself” (using your own words) and kindly address the irony that the title of your thread (The Hypocrisy of Nigerian Men) is actually a generalization on its own?
Thank you.

StarScream95:
Every single one of you bloody humans are hypocrites, you'll always defend what's favourable to you, hear wtf guys are saying and don't get me started about what girls will say if it was the other way round.
I hate human beings

Korllami007:


WTF did I just read?
This one doesn't know the meaning of hypergamy and hypogamy.
The guy is talking about men marrying women that are lower in status and financially. You are talking about financial breakthrough of women in marriage.
How does it even correlate?

fati2001:


AS I SAID EARLIER === UR BRAIN ACCESSORIES ARE LOCATED AROUND UR PELVIC AREA.


GUY KEEP DISPLAYING YOUR STUPIDITY IN THE NAME OF DISSING OR CATCHING FUN.


I'M USING CAPITAL LETTERS SO THAT YOU CAN READ MY LINES CORRECTLY.

fati2001:



LAME!


THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU AND SENSES ARE ENEMIES.


CLEARLY EDITED VERSION OF MY COMMENT.... YOU NEED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT...


IF YOU WANNA EDIT... DO IT PROPERLY PLS.

Lordfave98:
I won't agree with everything you just said, well it's true no woman would want to enter a home where they would bear much or any responsibility but some marry their spouse even knowing they are better than him for the sake of love, even believing that the guy has a bright future ahead of him and later go on regreting ever entering such home because the potential they saw in him didn't manifest leading to them bearing the bulk of the responsibilities in the family. I have witnessed such upfront in several families which sometimes leads to strife in the family.

@ bolded is in the category of the man being in a tough situation..
Also,
Aside being fools,
The woman deserves to be slapped if she comes out to lament about being the one bearing the finacial burden..
Why?
Because No sensible man would get married when he hasnt gotten his financial, emotional and other areas of his life in order...
Meaning she married a baby Adult with the hope that what happens in Nollywood would happen to her

MhisTahrah:
Weight of evidence approach indeed!If I did not put that link there, someone like you would have called for my head, now the evidence is staring you right in the eyes and you're bringing up 'weight of evidence approach'.It must be tiring having to defend nl Alfa males.Now, did some males on that thread justify cheating or not?This is not an assertion but a fact.Some DID justify cheating.
What does the 'some', my starting word on this thread stand for then?Let's not forget that the amount of likes they got is directly proportional to the number of those that agree with them.
'Oppressor' in the context in which I used it refers to the men haters. And I was referring to your first counter claim(number 1, remember?)
Funny how you make outrageous statements without backup (evidence) and try to invalidate my claims despite the evidence.You are the one trying to prove this delusion, the onus is on you to provide evidence.The way you're going about this, one would think I disputed that there are no nl misandrists.Everyone would agree however that there are far too much misogynists on nl compared to them as evidenced by their silly comments.
Of course it goes both ways.
I wondered how getting a taste of your medicine would feel.Kindly note that 'you' and 'your' do not refer to yourself directly but the hypocrites in question.

Would you please try to keep your replies short as they're getting quite lengthy.

FearlessOG:


Your point is moot. If some males justifying cheating on that thread proves your assertion, then some other males condemning cheating on Here’s an example - this comment: “MEN.... I MEANT ZOOGERIA HEGOATS THAT ARE HIDING UNDER THE GENDER MALE ARE SENSELESS, THEY ARE MANY ON NAIRALAND.... THEY KNOW THEMSEVELS” was made by the moniker “fati2001 (f)”

virginprincess:
Don't mind them, exactly while i said 95% of nairaland men are senseless.

virginprincess:
Don't mind them, exactly while i said 95% of nairaland men are senseless.

MhisTahrah:
I can see some cowards on my thread.I dare you to quote me if you have the guts.Don't asslick my dears, it's not healthy.

fati2001:


YES THEY KNOW EMSEVELS.

I didn't generalized!

so what up in writing this?

FearlessOG:


Lol!!! Whether you generalized or not is beside the point that I made. I used it as an example to buttress my claim that females rarely ever call out other females that make disparaging comments about men, whereas men do call out other men that make disparaging comments about women, in response to MhisTahrah's claim that I was making outrageous statements without backup (evidence)

bukatyne:


How many 'financially independent' women would leave cheating husbands?

fati2001:


IS THAT ALL?


lolz, ur post is funny.

FearlessOG:

Lol!!! Cat got your tongue?

FearlessOG:


Your point is moot. If some males justifying cheating on that thread proves your assertion, then some other males condemning cheating on that very same thread disproves your assertion. And if the amount of likes that they got is directly proportional to the number of those that agree with them, then it is my pleasure to inform you that as at the time of typing this response, the highest number of both likes and shares on that thread is 353/19, coming from the moniker “thesicilian” who condemned cheating, and even went further to point out that, irrespective of where it happens, cheating is cheating. If you like, you can go ahead and add the number of likes for those that supported cheating and compare it with the number of likes for those that condemned cheating. The choice is yours!!!

I love the fact that you specifically said that I make outrageous statements without backup. Here’s for starters – I do not even need to start littering this thread with links, simply because some of my assertions are literally evident within this thread itself. Here’s an example - this comment: “MEN.... I MEANT ZOOGERIA HEGOATS THAT ARE HIDING UNDER THE GENDER MALE ARE SENSELESS, THEY ARE MANY ON NAIRALAND.... THEY KNOW THEMSEVELS” was made by the moniker “fati2001 (f)” on page 1 of this very thread. This thread is currently on page 7 and not one female has called out that comment or tackled her, despite the fact that many females have commented on this thread. Not even you who is supposedly trying to point out double standards. On the contrary, there have been momentary back and forth arguments between male monikers with dissenting views of females on this very thread. If I have to start putting up links to prove my claims, it’ll literally be an “overkill.”

You haven't disputed that there are no Nairaland misandrists - this statement is true. You also haven't pointed out or called out any Nairaland misandrists - this statement is also true.
I also love the fact that you agree that comments being hidden/reported goes both ways, despite the fact that when you mentioned it initially, you only stated it from the context of males reporting females.

You still haven’t addressed the fact that the title of your thread is actually a generalization of Nigerian Men. I’ll give you credit though, because you specifically made a clarification by using the phrase “some men” in the actual write-up. That does not, however, negate the fact that your title is still a generalization.[/quote[ I did actually.It is in revenge.
[quote]Lastly, it very strange, and dare I say, uncanny, that you are actually trying to suggest to me what the length of my replies should be. Do you realize that you can decide to reply with a lengthier post? You can decide to reply with one word or even one letter (K)? You can even choose not to reply at all – your options are literally numerous. But specifically suggesting to me what the length of my replies should be is an entirely different ball game altogether. In local parlance, “I cannot can”

fati2001:



Girl calm down.

FearlessOG:


Lol!!! Whether you generalized or not is beside the point that I made. I used it as an example to buttress my claim that females rarely ever call out other females that make disparaging comments about men, whereas men do call out other men that make disparaging comments about women, in response to MhisTahrah's claim that I was making outrageous statements without backup (evidence)

You were making sense oh. And treading in the right direction...

Don't start making claims that goes against everything you've been saying since morning about hypocrisy with this...

There's no 'rarely' and 'more' and 'never' here. Women excuse their genders; women bash their genders.
Men excuse their genders; men bash their genders.

There's no case of (who does it) more or less here. Keep it at that (energy).

Or unless, you'll be guilty of being more biased towards your gender...

And you used females/men? I'll take offense at that. Why?? (P.S: Iz MY *anger and offense*)

MhisTahrah:
If you must throw shades, at least do it intelligently.What do hypergamy and hypogamy mean?
When men marry poorer women(hypogamy), they do it because they want to subjugate these women.They are the major decision maker in that family because of the financial capability and they tend to relegate their wives to housekeeping roles.This is going by Gerrard's logic which is sometimes true.And I argued that when such wives start to earn more, their husbands may feel emasculated because their major power(money) over their wives will be minimal and that could lead to disgruntlement and subsequently misbehavior. Do you need an example to fully grasp this?

Korllami007:


This is just okoto. The main discussion between the guy that quoted you is who marry up between men and women? Before you see a man that wants to marry a woman that's richer than him, you would have seen 500 women that want marry a man than richer than them. Men subjugation is another discussion entirely, it's not hypogamous.
All your arguments in this thread have been flawed by some people because your arguments are illogical.