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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 5:33pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Kingsuave: Lies Lies Lies. Where in the the Quran or hadiths are Muslims allowed to kill your so called infidel? The word infidel is not from Islam, it was started originally by the Christian crusaders to describe non Christian. The Quran speaks about kafir (disbelievers or non believer) and the Quran says it's not ok to kill or attack a kafir if they don't attack you first. Qur'an 2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors." Islam is in favour of peace and against violence. Murdering the innocent leads to punishment in Hell: Qur'an 5:32 "If anyone killed a person - unless it was for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed the whole people" |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 5:52pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: Can you please back your claim with evidence from the Quran or hadiths? I believe you strongly accept that it will wrong to judge Christianity as a religion based on the wrong actions of some corrupt men of God oppressing and exploiting their followers all in the name of Christianity. The logical way to judge any religion is through its religious text or books(Bible or Quran). To educate you, Muslims cannot participate in killings of an innocent Christian or Jewish or even Pegan. If you see a so called muslim killing innocent people then that muslim is the wrong according to the Quran and hadiths. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by awujale231: 6:11pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Give me a brief history of the religion your ancestors practiced before they met the violent Arabs? Nothing, you are totally brainwashed, you would spend years researching Arab history but I bet you know virtually nothing about yours, that's the type of slavery I am talking about. They don't even teach history in most black nations, most of you have abandoned your names, now that is extreme slavery, remember that plot of Kunta Kinta being beaten to change his name to Toby? Now you even kill each other to ensure your slavery is cemented. How enslaved are Blacks? A man speaks a little Latin/Arabic calls himself Father/Imam and boom we give them our children to abuse as they please, we are crazy down here! Blackpink: 1 Like |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 6:46pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Jeetkool: My baba is Aliu |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 7:01pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Lukay99: The Quran , chapter 9 ( At-Tawba ), verses 2–6: So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months (2) ... So if you repent, that is best for you; ... And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment. (3) ... Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. (4) ... And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists (Christians and Jews) wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. (5) ... And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. (6) Quran 9:29 Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Turantula(m): 7:42pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Kingsaeedibn:Can somebody read this? I fear person wey no fear islam |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Turantula(m): 7:49pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Kingsaeedibn:THIS MAN IS A TERRORIST O!!! MAYDAY! MAYDAY!! MAYDAY!!! |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 7:49pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Turantula: You would explain yourself when you are raised up in grave by angels to answer questions 1 Like |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 7:50pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
Turantula: Explain why am a terrorist. Laughing.. this boi is funny o |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by smallrincowis16(m): 8:55pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: all the verses you quoted are out of context |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 10:58pm On Oct 16, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: This is nothing but a twisted translation of the Quran just to support your negative belief about Islam. The first chapter you coated started from verse 2, why did you omit verse 1? Verse 1 explains that there was a treaty in place between the muslim and the Polytheists (Pegans). The Quran actually stated the Polytheists (pegans) and definitely not People of the book (Christians) or Children of Israel (jew). You or whoever translated the verse decided to include (Christians and Jews) in verse translation. Polytheists doesn't necessarily mean Christians or Jews. This was during war time and the muslim had an agreement or size fire (treaty) with the Polytheists but some bad Polytheists decided to break the treaty by attacking and killing the muslim. Then Allah revealed this verse to the Prophet Muhammad (saw) to give the Polytheists 4 months grace to repent but if after 4 months they decided not to repent then its ok for the muslim to fight and avenge the killings of the muslim by the bad Polytheists (only the bad Polytheists should be killed) because the Quran also says the muslim must still honor the treaty with the good Polytheists that never attacked the Muslims. The Quran also stated that if any of the good Polytheists requires the help of muslim in getting to a safe zone then the muslim must help them. Below are the verse you Posted wrongly. بَرَآءَةٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ (Sahih International) verse 1 [This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists. فَسِيحُواْ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أَرۡبَعَةَ أَشۡهُرٖ وَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِ وَأَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مُخۡزِي ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ (Sahih International) verse 2 So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers. وَأَذَٰنٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡحَجِّ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَرِيٓءٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُۥۚ فَإِن تُبۡتُمۡ فَهُوَ خَيۡرٞ لَّكُمۡۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّيۡتُمۡ فَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ (Yusuf Ali) verse 3 And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمۡ يَنقُصُوكُمۡ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَمۡ يُظَٰهِرُواْ عَلَيۡكُمۡ أَحَدٗا فَأَتِمُّوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡ عَهۡدَهُمۡ إِلَىٰ مُدَّتِهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ (Yusuf Ali) verse 4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. فَإِذَا ٱنسَلَخَ ٱلۡأَشۡهُرُ ٱلۡحُرُمُ فَٱقۡتُلُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَيۡثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمۡ وَخُذُوهُمۡ وَٱحۡصُرُوهُمۡ وَٱقۡعُدُواْ لَهُمۡ كُلَّ مَرۡصَدٖۚ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَوُاْ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٞ رَّحِيمٞ (Sahih International) verse 5(4 months grace over) And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. وَإِنۡ أَحَدٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ٱسۡتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرۡهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسۡمَعَ كَلَٰمَ ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبۡلِغۡهُ مَأۡمَنَهُۥۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمۡ قَوۡمٞ لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ (Sahih International) verse 6 And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. The other verse you quoted was Quran 9:29. This is simply addressing the muslim leadership or government to punish or discipline or fight (not to kill) the non Muslims living in the muslim society if they refuse to pay the Jizyah. The Muslims have to pay the zakah(religious tax) in muslim society to the muslim government while non Muslims living in a muslim society are not required to pay zakah because they are not muslim but are required to pay the Jizyah instead. The Jizyah is actually lesser than the zakah and while the zakah is obligated by both adult muslim rich men and women the Jizyah is only required by only the adult rich men and lesser. The verse was only addressing people that refused to pay tax just like living in any western country and you refuse to pay their taxes, the government can definitely jail you unless you pay up. The zakah and the Jizyah is used in running the society by the muslim government or leadership. Every time you added (Jews and Christians) in bracket () in your translation is actually false because Arabic have no bracket and Jews and Christians where not mentioned as your translation stated. 1 Like |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by BlackArab(m): 12:14am On Oct 17, 2020 |
Kingsaeedibn:MUSLIMS DO NOT VOTE? you're a clown. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Nobody: 8:20am On Oct 17, 2020 |
Kingsaeedibn: Lmao...Your brand of Islam is amusing |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by KyleXYZ: 10:33am On Oct 18, 2020 |
Lukgaf: Salaam alaykum brother. I first read this post some days back. It was the regular narrative, so I couldn't be bothered doing a Quote. Going over the submissions in my head and being one of the over 170 million Nigerians toiling day and night in the contraption we call a Nation, I feel obliged to do this. 1. Over the years, I have observed that your likes pick rulings from other climes with their peculiarities and dump them in situations (on us) without consideration for our own peculiarities. 2. The same texts (Qur'an and Hadith) are interpreted in varying ways to suit the intentions of the individuals quoting/interpreting the texts. 3. Your likes don't suggest real solutions to real problems which we can take guidance from. You are more concerned with the idealistic pronouncements which hardly ( if they ever do) solve our problems. Is this intellectual laziness or a disconnection with reality? 4. Your likes have indeed created more challenges for the Ummah than solutions. You have put us in more difficult situations than the country already created. Can you and your 'scholars' be solution providers, in addition to being 'spiritual'? The world and its people grow because people are consistently solving problems. 5. The Ummah (in Nigeria) today is faced with a myriad of problems. You and your likes will do us the eternal good of showing practical and practicable way forward, rather than this idealistic narratives that gave birth to BH and ISIS. Except if this is where you are leading us to. 2 Likes |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by musa7m(m): 5:41pm On Oct 18, 2020 |
Kingsaeedibn:Hegira is a medieval Latin transliteration of the Arabic word meaning meaning "departure" or "migration," among other definitions. Alternative transliterations of the word include Hijra or Hijrah..... what's your point ? |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:08am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Lukay99: Lukuluku you again, you don come with another Monika see na me go finish u.. Examine the below picture scrutiny and tell me WHO ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK allah your god said you should fight and kill? You'll tell me if I am your god allah that wrote Quran
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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:43am On Oct 19, 2020 |
smallrincowis16: Are u saying allah ur god is out of context because what you have there was copied from quran |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by smallrincowis16(m): 8:51pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: it is you that you are using your anus to read/translate/quote it |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 12:54pm On Oct 20, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: You go finish me? I really don't know how you're going to do that when I have nothing to hide. The Quran is available for for all to read or research. Once again you're wrong with your twisted translation or interpretation of the Quran. Yes Quran 9.29 mentioned just the People of the book (Christians) only and not (Jews and Christians) as you claimed. You claimed in this verse Quran (9.29) Allah God Almighty told Muslims to fight and kill. But that really not the truth. No where in Quran (9.29) did Allah mentioned kill or ordered Muslims to kill. Even according to your very own translations it says fight and definitely not (fight and kill). You added kill to it. I'm guessing know know the Quran was not revealed in English but it was revealed in Arabic. Arabic or Hebrew are far more complex and richer as a language when compared to shallow languages like English. When Allah says fight in Quran (9.29) it's in the context of addressing the Islamic government and definitely not addressing individual Muslims. It says fight them until they pay the Jizyah (tax) willingly and in submission. The verse not telling me as a muslim to attack you as a Christian to pay me tax. Pay me tax for what? Like I said earlier, the verse is addressing Muslims government and the Christians that refused to pay the tax not all Christians through. To make it easier for you, translate it as fight (punish) them until they pay the Jizyah willingly and with submission. The root word in Arabic that was translated as fight in English is not the context of two people fighting. Just like I said English is a very shallow language. We looses some the real meaning through translation to English or any other languages and that's why Muslims are required to make salat(prayers) from the Quran only in Arabic even till today. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:48pm On Oct 20, 2020 |
Lukay99: So allah hates Christians thereby giving you order to fight and kill us right? If you're with your senses, what allah your god said you should always do against Christians, does it sound well? Imagine, you supporting allah that fighting and killing Christians only is what that your bloody god (allah) said Lukay99: So according to your own brainwashed thinking, fighting someone couldn't leads to death em? Look at what your bloody allah said here again “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (Al Quran 9:5) Who are the pagans, polytheists, etc ur god allah said you should kill? Lukay99: But you saw the Arabic text of it, isn't it? Or allah has blindfolded you as usual
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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:56pm On Oct 20, 2020 |
smallrincowis16: If the English texts is giving you problem and headache, read the Arabic texts of it and tell your Imam, Alfa or sheik to explain it further for u
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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 3:29am On Oct 21, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: No Allah does not hate the real Christians but Allah hates fake Christians just like he mentioned in the Bible that whoever does not believe in him will burn in hell fire for eternity or do you have problems with your Bible God hating and burn all the people that don't believe in him (the non Christians). If you don't have any problem with your Bible God for hating non believer and putting them in hell then you're nothing but hypocrite with double standards. One more Bible verse for you Mr hypocrite. Luke 19: 27 Jesus (saw) says "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me. '” According to your Bible Jesus (saw) said to kill enemies that don't see him as king. Really? How do you explain that Mr hypocrite? You're busy condemning the Quran for telling the muslim government to fight (punish) people that refused to pay tax while your own Bible is actually ordering killings of people just because they do not accept Jesus as a king. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 8:17am On Oct 21, 2020 |
Lukay99: You've moved your attention to Jesus Christ now em, even your Quran respected him more than that your paedophile messenger that all he knew was to be chasing young girls toto while alive ... Who are those pagans, polytheists, that ur bloody allah said you should kill? OR DID YOU SEE WHERE BIBLE SAYS JEWISH OR CHRISTIANS SHOULD KILL YOU MUSLIMS? If there is any, show me. |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 5:55pm On Oct 21, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: Like have said earlier, the Quran never ordered Muslims to kill all Polytheists, but the Quran only ordered the killings of a specific group of polytheists at a specific time that where in a size fire treaty with the Muslims broke the treaty while some Polytheists honored the treaty and some did not. The ones that did not honored the treaty attacked and killed the Muslims then Allah ordered the Muslims to give them 4 months opportunity to make right but if they don't then the Muslims can only attack and kill the polytheists that killed Muslims (only the ones that broke the treaty are killed) but the Polytheists that did not broke the treaty are to be honored and protected by the Muslims according to the Quran. So stop twisting the Quran for your own hidden agenda فَسِيحُواْ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أَرۡبَعَةَ أَشۡهُرٖ وَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِ وَأَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مُخۡزِي ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ (Sahih International)Quran 9.2 So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers. وَأَذَٰنٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡحَجِّ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَرِيٓءٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُۥۚ فَإِن تُبۡتُمۡ فَهُوَ خَيۡرٞ لَّكُمۡۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّيۡتُمۡ فَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ (Yusuf Ali) Quran 9.3 And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمۡ يَنقُصُوكُمۡ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَمۡ يُظَٰهِرُواْ عَلَيۡكُمۡ أَحَدٗا فَأَتِمُّوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡ عَهۡدَهُمۡ إِلَىٰ مُدَّتِهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ (Sahih International) Quran 9.4 Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]. فَإِذَا ٱنسَلَخَ ٱلۡأَشۡهُرُ ٱلۡحُرُمُ فَٱقۡتُلُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَيۡثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمۡ وَخُذُوهُمۡ وَٱحۡصُرُوهُمۡ وَٱقۡعُدُواْ لَهُمۡ كُلَّ مَرۡصَدٖۚ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَوُاْ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٞ رَّحِيمٞ (Sahih International) Quran 9.5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. وَإِنۡ أَحَدٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ٱسۡتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرۡهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسۡمَعَ كَلَٰمَ ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبۡلِغۡهُ مَأۡمَنَهُۥۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمۡ قَوۡمٞ لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ (Sahih International) Quran 9.6 And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. Please stop twisting the interpretation of the Quran. No where did Allah ordered the killings of all Or just any Polytheists. Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities, which are usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own religions and rituals(Polytheists is not same as Jews and Christians) stop twisting the Quran How can the Bible tells Christians to kill Muslims specifically when Islam as we see Today don't even come into existence until 600 years after Jesus (saw) or after the Bible or gospel have already been written? Your question is illogical |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by smallrincowis16(m): 6:11pm On Oct 21, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM:it's you that needs to check your brain for interpreting QUR'AN with your filthy brain. i don't need anybody to know that those verses were against you |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 7:19pm On Oct 21, 2020 |
smallrincowis16: Please leave him alone, he's a hypocrite falsely acquising Islam of hatred of Jews and Christians but look at his name "ANTILSLAM " says it all about who he truly is. 1 Like |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Empiree: 12:44am On Oct 22, 2020 |
chinchonglee:you understand that this is writer's opinion before you jumped to conclusion of castigating entire religion? You never thought there are opposing views to this with evidence? |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Empiree: 1:34am On Oct 22, 2020 |
To my dear non-Muslims posters, you are also guilty as much as op and his supporters. You blamed Islam and entire Muslims because of this write-up. This shows that you are clueless as well. You are not different from almajiri. To my dear Muslim brother who posted this outdated "fatwa" by Sheikh bin Baz(ra), it is very important that you update yourself about rulings in Islam. Update yourself and broaden your Islamic knowledge before posting things on the internet. Because of your posts is the reason non-Muslims on this platform are raining insults on Islam, our prophet and entire Muslims. I have never argued with anyone on this issue of protest islamically since #endsars began. I only read arguments and counterarguments and posted just one verse of the Qur'an and one Hadith. I didn't engage in back to back arguments because it doesn't worth it. But I am forced to say something after reading entire posts here. I read fatwa posted by op and one thing caught my attention which is, there is no single Ayah of Qur'an (correct me if i missed it) to back up his points. Qur'an is supreme authority and it sits in judgement over Hadith and it sits in judgement over opinion of ulama. You said no protest is allowed in Islam. I even read a clown who is not new to me said "protest is a major sin and kufr". I need not to engage the guy. He's a known clown and I know where he belongs. Anyways, protest is allowed in Islam. I am saying this with full confidence and I will not reply to any silly comment about it. There are several proofs that sahaba(companions of the prophet) engaged in protests whether during or after prophet muhammad SAW himself. But that's not the evidence I want to use. I will only quote one Ayah of Qur'an to rubbish this lopsided so called "fatwa". But before then, let me remind my reading audience that this situation shouldn't even have any religious undertone. I don't know why Muslims argue whether it is permissible to protest or not. This is about human rights guaranteed under Nigeria constitution. So why is this religious issue?. Now, this Ayah of Qur'an I want to quote is only in the context of this ongoing conflict. Intelligent reading audience should understand this Ayah of Qur'an in this context. No Muslim can refute Qur'an. We can argue about Hadith which may bring about difference of opinions but Qur'an is our primary source of information and guidance. Sura 4:75 says: "And what is [the matter] with you that you Look at this Ayah how it beautifully summarized outcries of Nigerians at the hands of SARS and Nigerian govt. Qur'an is for the past, present and future. Which means Qur'an is to be understood with time. In another word, this ayah is mutlaq [unrestricted]. I need not to explain the Ayah in the context of ongoing protests because it is self explanatory. If you don't understand it, it means Allah doesn't want you to understand. From Hadith, I am glad that OP himself quoted famous Hadith that backs protest but he muddled up unrelated, unparallel examples to draw his conclusion which I found very pathetic. We all know the famous Hadith. The Hadith clearly suggests every human has the right to self determination to raise awareness if you see evil being perpetrated. Nigerian govt has clearly perpetrated evil in public. I don't need to quote the Hadith. It is mentioned by OP himself. So yes, Islam permits peaceful protest. If peaceful protest leads to unforeseen circumstances like what we are seeing with #endsars, it is bound to happen because there will always be crazy opportunists or mercenaries. Even Black Lives Matter in America started peacefully but ended up with violence. Recall that it was peaceful protest that brought about restoring right of hijab in Nigeria especially in the case of Amasa Firdaus. If we are to apply this lopsided fatwa in Nigeria, Christians will take all your rights from you while you sit on outdated fatwa meant to oppress people. Islam is a natural RELIGION. Please stop portraying otherwise. Islam allows for us to demand our legal rights. If people get killed or injured in the process, well there are several verses in the Quran to this effect. This is one of them. "Or do you think that you will enter Paradise while such [trial] has not yet come to you as came to those who passed on before you? They were touched by poverty and hardship and were shaken until [even their] messenger and those who believed with him said,"When is the help of Allah ?" Unquestionably, the help of Allah is near." Q2:214 Perhaps, this protests across the country send clear message to the govt. We never know if Allah's Help is nigh. Finally, Allah says in the Quran ".....Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves...." Freedom is not Free Ire ooooooo Salam alaikum 2 Likes |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 4:28am On Oct 22, 2020 |
smallrincowis16: Brainwashed slave, that's why you were be enslaved.. Those bloody verses in your Quran are simple, easy to read and understand |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 4:30am On Oct 22, 2020 |
Lukay99: Lukuluku why opening diff monika just because you couldn't defend your god allah and your late paedophile messenger Muhammad? Who are the specific group(s) of pagans, polytheists as you said that your allah instructs you to kill? |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by smallrincowis16(m): 5:32pm On Oct 22, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM:if you are ready to learn and being dug out from you delusion QUOTE me. if not, ABEG STAY AWAY FROM MY MENTION |
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Lukay99: 3:33am On Oct 23, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: I replied you already, I guess you're blinded by hatred of Islam that's why you can't see it but you chooses to comment on my message to someone else instead. I will send it again hopefully you'll not miss it this time around. Like have said earlier, the Quran never ordered Muslims to kill all Polytheists, but the Quran only ordered the killings of a specific group of polytheists at a specific time that where in a size fire treaty with the Muslims. Some Polytheists broke the treaty while some Polytheists honored the treaty. The ones that did not honored the treaty attacked and killed the Muslims then Allah ordered the Muslims to give them 4 months opportunity to make right but if they don't then the Muslims can only attack and kill the polytheists that killed Muslims (only the ones that broke the treaty are killed) but the Polytheists that did not broke the treaty are to be honored and protected by the Muslims according to the Quran. So stop twisting the Quran for your own hidden agenda فَسِيحُواْ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أَرۡبَعَةَ أَشۡهُرٖ وَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِ وَأَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مُخۡزِي ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ (Sahih International)Quran 9.2 So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers. وَأَذَٰنٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡحَجِّ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَرِيٓءٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُۥۚ فَإِن تُبۡتُمۡ فَهُوَ خَيۡرٞ لَّكُمۡۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّيۡتُمۡ فَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ (Yusuf Ali) Quran 9.3 And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمۡ يَنقُصُوكُمۡ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَمۡ يُظَٰهِرُواْ عَلَيۡكُمۡ أَحَدٗا فَأَتِمُّوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡ عَهۡدَهُمۡ إِلَىٰ مُدَّتِهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ (Sahih International) Quran 9.4 Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]. (This verse above tells the Muslims to honored the term of the treaty by the Polytheists that never attacked the Muslims. They are not to be attacked.) فَإِذَا ٱنسَلَخَ ٱلۡأَشۡهُرُ ٱلۡحُرُمُ فَٱقۡتُلُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَيۡثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمۡ وَخُذُوهُمۡ وَٱحۡصُرُوهُمۡ وَٱقۡعُدُواْ لَهُمۡ كُلَّ مَرۡصَدٖۚ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَوُاْ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٞ رَّحِيمٞ (Sahih International) Quran 9.5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (This verse above is specifically addressing only the Polytheists that broke the treaty by attacking and killing Muslims and where given four months notice to make right with the Muslims but if no response from them after 4 months, only then can the Muslims go after that specific set of Polytheists) وَإِنۡ أَحَدٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ٱسۡتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرۡهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسۡمَعَ كَلَٰمَ ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبۡلِغۡهُ مَأۡمَنَهُۥۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمۡ قَوۡمٞ لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ (Sahih International) Quran 9.6 And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. (This verse above is addressing all Polytheists) Please stop twisting the interpretation of the Quran. No where did Allah ordered the killings of all Polytheists. Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities, which are usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own religions and rituals(Polytheists is not same as Jews and Christians) stop twisting the Quran How can the Bible tells Christians to kill Muslims specifically when Islam as we see Today don't even come into existence until 600 years after Jesus (saw) or after the Bible or gospel have already been written? Your question is illogical |
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