Bacteriologist:


It was also not advisable to believe the earth was round at a time to prevent being ostracized from society. Many people were alienated from the society or even killed (in the case of Galileo and the catholic church) for daring to "think freely" and away from the common accepted beliefs of the society.

The fear of society is not enough reason to continue to believe in absurd and batshit crazy claims. The argumentum ad populum fallacy exists because people are not perfect thinkers. And many people believing in something does not necessarily make it true.

That said, it can be easier to join the crowd especially when it's a fanatic environment to avoid dangerous situations. I play safe when I'm in public spaces. But I think it's becoming less common for people to be (physically) persecuted for thinking freely.

Although, I don't see how that has to do with what Tamara and I were discussing tho, or the OP. Why do you like talking off point?

Off-point??
Isn't it all about what is true or/and what is false?
Perhaps,I've taken the matter further or I've extended the issue but that doesn't mean I've diverted from it.
Ultimately,I've seen enough ##*"&#††& and I await death in whatever inevitable manner!!!

God has no beginning nor ending.

Therefore He was not created.

It is only because of the existence of time that it seems as if something must have a beginning.

Beginning and end exist inside of time.

Outside of time,there is nothing like that.


Since God exists outside of time and He was the one who created time and space,

you can now see why God has no beginning hence He was not created.

Bacteriologist:


It was also not advisable to believe the earth was round at a time to prevent being ostracized from society. Many people were alienated from the society or even killed (in the case of Galileo and the catholic church) for daring to "think freely" and away from the common accepted beliefs of the society ?

I guarantee you did not know The Whole Truth of what "Free thinking" meant in Galileo, Socrates, Aristotle days.

"When the blind think they see, the ignorant think they know, the foolish think they're wise, the dead think they're alive, the bound think they're free, the sick think they're healthy, those in the darkness think they're in the light...blindness becomes their sight, ignorance becomes their knowledge, foolishness becomes their wisdom, death becomes their life, bondage becomes their freedom, sickness becomes their health, darkness becomes their light... and wrong becomes their right." - jesusjnr

Continue deluding yourselves, when the time comes we'd know who's truly wrong and who's right.

Tamaratonye5:
Martian, Bacteriologist, LordTheus et Al

I must commend you guys, I have become rather weary of back and forth exchanges with theists.

The impenetrable vague nature of theist notion is identical only to the implausibility in their baffling comprehension of reality and activities which even they confess to be beyond mere human knowledge

NOT ONCE has Dtruthspeaker, Jesusjnr2020, Maximus69 and the rest of their squad of misfit apologists ever displayed a desire to proffer an intelligent mature response to any question positioned to them about their faith. Rather than solve easy questions or make clear their claims, like all excellent instructors have to, they reply with indignation to the dearth of submissive recognition to their statements which they dogmatically hold as totally inerrant or as sacred capitalised gnostic idealisations beyond query or explanation.

All of them react with less dignity than many tough and red-necked wharfies I actually have labored with. The responses of this theistic bunch endure no resemblance to the quiet fact of each person assured inside the assurance in their very own religious enlightenment. Instead they rant and rail like witchdoctors vainly seeking to impose their dubious strength and questionable know-how.

For more than thirty years I even have seen the same arguments and indignation paraded and stupidly defended by way of wave after wave of intransigent unintelligent would be cliches. On the alternative hand I actually have had the pleasure of engaging with a few exceptional theists who I nevertheless maintain in excessive regard, who have quietly and intelligently explained and demonstrated the power in their religion and who on the same time acknowledged their doubts and uncertainties, but they may be lamentably few in number.

So with that to enjoy behind me, and due to the fact I even have given up hope of ever rescuing my brother from the despicable christian brethren cult who've claimed him, I find it more and more unrewarding or maybe a laugh to have interactions with people like this tag crew bunch who seek to wrestle and rage towards common sense and understanding and who only debate to please their pious vanity and shore up comforts of their saintly lack of knowledge

I’m reminded of the quote, I accept as true with from Mark Twain: “Never wrestle a pig, you’ll best get dirty, and the pig might enjoy it.”

HellVictorinho:

There's no statement worthy of processing in your goddamn write-ups!!!!!!!

..a lost dog is a lost cause!

shadeyinka2:


..a lost dog is a lost cause!

Your speech is not worth a better reply.