EzeUche:

Chyz my brother, I have to advise you not to deal with that woman. Time has not been good to her.

i couldn't be bothered to read all the crap being spewed on this thread, but is someone implying that they do not teach Nigerian history in Nigerian schools? if so, OH MY GOD! what is wrong with the educational system in Nigeria?
as they say "people that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it" enough said. they should DEF teach them the front and back of politics, and what corruption is, how its extremely damaging to society, and point out past corrupt Nigerian leaders, so maybe the next generation will be a little more enlightened on these things.
just saying.

Very funny thread.

It is difficult to teach that part of Nigerian history without there been reprisals of some kind. This is so for several reasons

1. Quite a few of those who played a part are still alive
2. Nigeria does not have the right kind of leaders to ensure that what goes into curriculum is non-inflammatory
3. The facts are clear, yet many still can't accept those facts
4. Tribalism is still rife in Nigeria

If it is to be taught, educators should ensure that only facts are presented without conclusions. Teachers shouldn't be allowed to use words such as Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, etc. Emphasis should be placed on the actors rather than whatever ethnic Groups they belong to. Let the students reach their own conclusions.

Part #2 of that vid was sad, EzeUche. Around 2:58. 4:00 as well. 4:30-5:10 too.

Imagine leading your people to war with only a few guns and with no preparation. . . dude was purely bluffing about his military capability 

Very sad stuff.

Would have been better off delaying, buying a few years to legitimately prepare.

THE AMAKA:

i couldn't be bothered to read all the crap being spewed on this thread, but is someone implying that they do not teach Nigerian history in Nigerian schools? if so, OH MY GOD! what is wrong with the educational system in Nigeria?
as they say "people that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it" enough said. they should DEF teach them the front and back of politics, and what corruption is, how its extremely damaging to society, and point out past corrupt Nigerian leaders, so maybe the next generation will be a little more enlightened on these things.
just saying.

No. . .Nigeria history is taught at the tertiary level but not at the secondary level.

~Bluetooth:

No. . .Nigeria history is taught at the tertiary level but not at the secondary level.

It depends on the secondary school. It was proly not taught at the 'agbole' secondary/grammar school you went to. . . not your fault though

Nigerian History is taught both at the primary, secondary and tertiary level

In Primary Level- You learn stuff like about Afonja, and like Oba Kosoko of Lagos and the slave trade, Usman Dan Fodio and his Feminazi Daughter Nana Asmau and Jaja of Opobo. Obviously, they are not going to teach much about a civil war in elementary school.  Igbo people do not feature in this part of history, I dont know why though.

At the secondary level-You dont take core history per se but your do social studies or civilian studies or whatever till Junior secondary level. At secondary school level students who study Art Subjects (Since I was smart and my friends were smart, we all studied sciences, and I did not interact with many of these) you are required to take history and government.

I dont know much about these but from the little I know: In Government they teach you about all the crap that went down in naija but they dont go indepth into the Biafra issue. I dont blame them though. History too same thing. Teachers would give a very general overview of the Biafran war- Like Igbo people were tired of the federation (they would not go into details obviously of the massacres or assassination that went on during that period)

Tertiary Level: WTF are you doing studying History 

SEFAGO:


(Since I was smart and  my friends were smart,  we all studied sciences, and I did not interact with many of these).

Classic SEFAGO!

Always too eager to impress Ileke-ide!

^

, where is my chick?? 


Anyways tbh, the topic actually makes sense- Nigerian history is rarely taught intensively in Nigeria. I think there is a sort of political correctness in the curriculum which prevents the addition of very sensitive topics. However, I feel secondary school students should be mature enough to understand the realities of living in a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society as Nigeria and the issues that can arise when one group begins to think they are superior to another.

The Biafran War aside, there are still a lot of things that need to be taught in Nigeria. If I remember correctly, a significant part of the curriculum was dedicated to the Colonial Era- especially knowing and understand the british policy in Nigeria and the names of the Colonial rulers such as Lugard. Inbetween cramming crap like Mungo Park and the name of the wife of Lord Lugard- Flora Shaw- I always wondered if my time wouldn't have been better spent learning about Precolonial Nigeria.

Nigerian History Can be divided into five parts:
Precolonial Nigeria (Where the Noble and Organized Yoruba lived in well kept towns, the Savage and Kingless Igbos lived in mudhuts and dispersed villages and the Nomadic and Cattle-rearing Hausa-Fulani roamed the savannah, with some other minority groups which are basically visitors in Nigeria- Urhobo, Nupe, Ijaw et al. Currently the comprise what is now known as Modern Day Nigeria

Colonial Nigeria: England was bleeping everywhere up in the world and had just finished bleeping up india so they thought: Why not just bleep up some places in Africa too. Lets put all these people with different cultures and identities together to form one country. They would all get along being of the same color. All black people get along quite well you know.


Post-Colonial Nigeria: The British started to pack their bags out of tropical west africa. After being thoroughly walloped in World War II they figured that their foreign operations were no profitable and that managing an empire from such a small island might not be really a good idea. Nigerians who had been fighting for independence thought they had won. More rational people knew what really happened.

Nigeria began her unsteady journey to nationhood. A couple of coups happened, there was some s/h/i/t going down based on ignorance and primitive group-think and ethnocentrism. Everything culminated in a Civil War in Nigeria. S/h/i/t hit the fan and Nigeria got her first headline news.

The civil war put us on the map to international stardom and notoriety.

Civil War Era: An era of propaganda, pointing and blaming people. I dont know too much about this three years. The problem is that the story changes depending on who is telling you. But there are a 1000 threads on NL about this.

Naija Era: Nigeria begins to find her identity. We might not be as tech savvy as the japanese but we have learned to adapt to our environment. We became known for 419 (Till now most people conder me an awesome letter writer based on my nationality, and lots of oyibo people ask me to write letters for them to their friends because they have seen so many good samples from their emails), Lasgidi, Lots of oil and wealth all wasted. First Country to be ruled by a walking-dead president. 

I would like to say something though about the effect of the absence of history as a core part of the Nigerian educational curriculum: Recycled Leadership. Whats so unique about Nigeria in our history compared to other countries is our ability to recycle leaders. Every new election rumors of IBB running for presidential elections emerge. People are currently contemplating another recycled leader Buhari. Obasanjo F/u/c/k/ed up several years ago in the military and had the opportunity to repeat his f/u/c/k up again.

So while other African countries have life long dictatorial leaders like Sese Seko these are largely absent in Nigeria. In Nigeria we repackage the past and present it in as something new in the future. The fact is that our collective memory is so short that we cannot bad leadership.

How does this tie with your question: Well for one Nigeria has altered democracy to fit her own environment and culture of the people. Its no secret that Africans rarely kept historical accounts of their past until the incursion from Europeans (Before I get flamed, trust me if we argue on this I will win hands down). So its not surprising that even now in the 21st century we still repeat that mistakes and practise a democracy that is turns a blind eye to the past.

PS: I think you are honestly looking for trouble.

;d

;d

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Its no secret that Africans rarely kept historical accounts of their past until the incursion from Europeans

@SEFAGO, very witty post. Depends on how you define "kept" though.

fstranger needs to be caned

;d

^Whatever be a good omo odua and remove the SDN reference in your post.


Lol. I talk primarily to oyibo people so I generally write like them. I guess why you might have many issues though.

Never you make fun of me here on NL again ok! Grin Grin

I have you by the balls now!!!!!!! Grin

Well if you say so.

;d

And kobokoed

;d

Pls, Do not derail this thread,

Hmm not as much as I wanted, Well fstranger, I have to say that although I thought you were ok albeit a bit cuckoo, you have decided to piss me off to the extent that I have put you down on my "I dont like you list"

Congratulations you are number two on that list.

FYI tons of people on NL know already. The same way I know tons of stuff about people on NL. However they don't mention it in my face. Its called privacy and courtesy.

hehe i like world wars, which one be this one? world war 3?

SEFAGO:

^Whatever be a good omo odua and remove the SDN reference in your post.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Doctor_Network


http://www.studentdoctor.net/

Going into medicine?

SEFAGO:

^

, where is my chick??


Anyways tbh, the topic actually makes sense- Nigerian history is rarely taught intensively in Nigeria. I think there is a sort of political correctness in the curriculum which prevents the addition of very sensitive topics. However, I feel secondary school students should be mature enough to understand the realities of living in a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society as Nigeria and the issues that can arise when one group begins to think they are superior to another.

The Biafran War aside, there are still a lot of things that need to be taught in Nigeria. If I remember correctly, a significant part of the curriculum was dedicated to the Colonial Era- especially knowing and understand the british policy in Nigeria and the names of the Colonial rulers such as Lugard. Inbetween cramming crap like Mungo Park and the name of the wife of Lord Lugard- Flora Shaw- I always wondered if my time wouldn't have been better spent learning about Precolonial Nigeria.

Nigerian History Can be divided into five parts:
Precolonial Nigeria (Where the Noble and Organized Yoruba lived in well kept towns, the Savage and Kingless Igbos lived in mudhuts and dispersed villages and the Nomadic and Cattle-rearing Hausa-Fulani roamed the savannah, with some other minority groups which are basically visitors in Nigeria- Urhobo, Nupe, Ijaw et al. Currently the comprise what is now known as Modern Day Nigeria

Colonial Nigeria: England was bleeping everywhere up in the world and had just finished bleeping up india so they thought: Why not just bleep up some places in Africa too. Lets put all these people with different cultures and identities together to form one country. They would all get along being of the same color. All black people get along quite well you know.


Post-Colonial Nigeria: The British started to pack their bags out of tropical west africa. After being thoroughly walloped in World War II they figured that their foreign operations were no profitable and that managing an empire from such a small island might not be really a good idea. Nigerians who had been fighting for independence thought they had won. More rational people knew what really happened.

Nigeria began her unsteady journey to nationhood. A couple of coups happened, there was some s/h/i/t going down based on ignorance and primitive group-think and ethnocentrism. Everything culminated in a Civil War in Nigeria. S/h/i/t hit the fan and Nigeria got her first headline news.

The civil war put us on the map to international stardom and notoriety.

Civil War Era: An era of propaganda, pointing and blaming people. I dont know too much about this three years. The problem is that the story changes depending on who is telling you. But there are a 1000 threads on NL about this.

Naija Era: Nigeria begins to find her identity. We might not be as tech savvy as the japanese but we have learned to adapt to our environment. We became known for 419 (Till now most people conder me an awesome letter writer based on my nationality, and lots of oyibo people ask me to write letters for them to their friends because they have seen so many good samples from their emails), Lasgidi, Lots of oil and wealth all wasted. First Country to be ruled by a walking-dead president.

I would like to say something though about the effect of the absence of history as a core part of the Nigerian educational curriculum: Recycled Leadership. Whats so unique about Nigeria in our history compared to other countries is our ability to recycle leaders. Every new election rumors of IBB running for presidential elections emerge. People are currently contemplating another recycled leader Buhari. Obasanjo F/u/c/k/ed up several years ago in the military and had the opportunity to repeat his f/u/c/k up again.

So while other African countries have life long dictatorial leaders like Sese Seko these are largely absent in Nigeria. In Nigeria we repackage the past and present it in as something new in the future. The fact is that our collective memory is so short that we cannot bad leadership.

How does this tie with your question: Well for one Nigeria has altered democracy to fit her own environment and culture of the people. Its no secret that Africans rarely kept historical accounts of their past until the incursion from Europeans (Before I get flamed, trust me if we argue on this I will win hands down). So its not surprising that even now in the 21st century we still repeat that mistakes and practise a democracy that is turns a blind eye to the past.

PS: I think you are honestly looking for trouble.

This loudmouthed punk shall never cease to impress his or her silly self even with little airhead. The above edited post by SEFAGO is typical example of a job by an interloper.