justosee:

You can't tell by their monarch dress code. powerful kingdom like Benin use to appoint Kings for minorities back then.

dowap:

The picture of the Obi of Agbor and the claims of the different Anioma Obi's and their dress codes and traditions contradict your self serving claim.
They are all Edos.

dowap:

Actually the monarchs are the costudians of the culture of the people, so you can absolutely tell by the traditions of the kings. And yes the Anioma are Edo.
(Obi of Agbor below)

dowap:


Yea, you stop and observe like Christopher Columbus, you are essentially an explorer, right ?
Look, stop making silly claims.

justosee:

I am not an uninformed kid like you. I have access to written history of some communities in Delta.

justosee:

There are communities here that majority of them migrated from other African countries

justosee:


there is a community here in Delta where the kingship family is not even from Nigeria. how they became King is a mystery I will not share with you.

Deadlytruth:

Don't mind him. I am shocked that a Yoruba person exists who has never read it in any book that Awolowo, the father of Yoruba irridentism, did a comprehensive ethnographic survey of Akoko-Edo area and concluded that the people are not Yorubas in any way neither does the Akoko tag in their name connote Yorubanness hence never targeted them in his Yoruba irredentism. Anyway Obasanjo a Yoruba man whose main desire was to rubbish Awolowo's legacies by banning History in our schools is a native of the Abeokuta which this Yoruba guy hails from hence I am not surprised.

justosee:

a monarch of an igbo speaking community once told me ...

dowap:
complete rubbish, no monarch once told you anything: anecdotal comments are not reasonable arguments, because there is no proof that they happened, no proof that you are telling the truth

privaldo:
Age is really telling on Pius Anyim, no wonder he doesn't think properly.

Igbos should learn to stop referring to those Igbos outside the SE like people from other tribes. An Igbo man is an Igbo man, whether he's from Etche in Rivers, Anioma in Delta, Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, or Gabon, it dosn't change the fact he's an Igbo man. Boundaries shouldn't define ones Igbo affinity.

Ohaneze Ndi Igbo should have been at the forefront of correcting this error but, it seems they are also among those fuelling it for their political gains.

A Jew will first identify as a Jew before referring to any other nationality, so the same should imply for Ndi Igbos. AN IGBO MAN IS AN IGBO MAN.

In my opinion, I don't even think fighting for the Presidency is worth it, we should be talking about developing Ala Igbo to be a world class economy and not falling for this political scheme by these politicians, who are doing this for their benefit. A world class economy would allow us have massive leverage, which in turn would allow us dictate the flow of the tide.

Deadlytruth:


So by stopping by and observing for just some few minutes you were able to decipher their actual culture and origin? If you stop by in Jos and observe the people for few hours you are bound to conclude that they are Hausafulanis. But does that actually make them so?

Yea, you stop and observe like Christopher Columbus, you are essentially an explorer, right ?
Look, stop making silly claims.

obynzo:


This is not about the tribe, but the region. Truth is when a Yoruba man from Kwara or Kogi is selected his slot is not seen as the slot for south west but for north Central so why would the igbos in delta have their slots included in the slots for south east? If any igbo from delta is chosen the slot is for south south and not for south east.

The issue is that as usual people will maliciously spin this as the igbo in the south east denouncing the igbo in the south south and other areas.

ChangedMan1999:



I think you need to read more books to know who you really are.

justosee:

How can you prove that the language they are speaking came from you? you call yours igbo but they have different name for theirs. some call themselves Anioma, Ukwuani, Ndokwa etc.

bigfish3k:

Anioma, ukwuani, ndokwa, Mbaise, owerri, umuahia, Ikwerre, Etche are all igbo names for igbo variants. They have the same Igbo alphabets in learning and they all use the same Igbo Bible. Have you ever heard ukwuani Bible or Ikwerre Bible. We all use the same Igbo Bible. We know the truth but we just want to be crafty in trying to oppress the truth

You are the one that said that they came from Benin with Benin language and names.
Therefore they are the ones that changed their inferior Benin language to superior igbo language, Igbo names, Igbo foods, Igbo looks, Igbo culture,Igbo intonations, Igbo market days and Igbo village names to igbo sounds.

justosee:

I am not the one that said they came from Benin. most of these communities have their history written down.

How are you sure they are not the first to speak what you call the Igbo language? you call it Igbo but they call it something different. there is a community here in Delta that call what they speak "aboh", some call it ukwuani etc.

there is no way you can prove they stole from you.

Rugaria:


2 things that are fatally wrong with your submission above:

1) Igbos in the south east are not the ones pushing away Igbos from other areas! On the contrary, Igbos from other areas, especially the fulani invented "south south" are the ones fiercely clamouring for a separate identity! The only time you see Igbos from the south south speak up about how they're being pushed away from their so-called Igbo heritage is during times like this..This forum is littered with so many examples of this! We have threads here where for many pages, it was a tug of war as some BROTHERS from mainly Rivers State and Delta State unleashed all sorts of diatribes on the igbo, simply because in the heat of the political persecution going on against the igboman at the moment, it looks convenient for folks to claim a new identity! That in my opinion is evil and should be condemned! Essentially, your advice should go to the Igbos in other regions to man up, actively identify with their kind in the hinterlands and boldily move forward to possess their possessions!


2) You also get it wrong when you talk of creating a "world class igbo economy" within Nigeria, without the Igbos not being interested in the leadership positions/decisions in Nigeria. That can't work my brother! Folks easily forget that politics come first before the economics. You can't get the right economic policies you need to create a versatile economy, if your traducer is in charge of making political decisions over your head on a daily basis! To even create an export oriented economy for instance, you need to get the macro/micro economic policies right! The CBN for instance, needs to get the fiscal and monetary policies right! Otherwise the final prices of your goods will struggle against the prices of similar goods from other competing economies.. That's just one single consequence of having the CBN governor making policies that run contrary to your interest! Who appoints the CBN governor? It's the president! So how can you create an economy that's competitive enough, if you have a hate filled president appointing officers who will make policies that will kill your initiatives?


High exchange rate means costly prices for raw materials to be imported. It means costly imported machinery since we import most, it means highly costly remuneration policies for foreign expats who might be needed to help with setting up some manufacturing processes.., the list is endless. . We haven't even gone to policies related to setting up the basic infastructures needed to fast track the course of rapid industrialization such as power projects, rail ways, gas distribution, roads, ports, soft loans to SMEs etc... You need to have the right policies at the center to make this happen! Look at how Obasanjo turned Ottah into a manufacturing hub with the gas line biuld up.., look at how Buhari is doing the same in Kaduna. How can any eastern city compete with those cities if policy makers deliberately starved the eastern cities of such foundamental structural investments?

bigfish3k:

It is common logic that if they came from Benin they should be Benin in every thing including intonations, food and looks.
How can we steal from them when it's our scholars that developed the language into alphabets and writings.
The Igbo Bible is written in owerri igbo which is acceptable by all including them.

There is no logical sequence on their side to suggest we stole the language from them.

If we stole from them at their arrival, then which language were we speaking before then.

At least I know that according to you they were speaking Benin before they changed to igbo in every thing

privaldo:


Nwanne, my issue he would have said SE and SS instead of implying Igbos, and causing further division between the SE and SS Igbos.

obynzo:


Nwanne it is possible that he was misquoted by the media too. These days the kind of journalism we have leaves much to be desired.

Verysmart101:


My friend stop saying nonsense here.Why didnt asaba support biafra during d civil war rather they supported Nigeria but still Murtala Mohammed dealth with them

Deadlytruth:

Don't mind him. I am shocked that a Yoruba person exists who has never read it in any book that Awolowo, the father of Yoruba irridentism, did a comprehensive ethnographic survey of Akoko-Edo area and concluded that the people are not Yorubas in any way neither does the Akoko tag in their name connote Yorubanness hence never targeted them in his Yoruba irredentism. Anyway Obasanjo a Yoruba man whose main desire was to rubbish Awolowo's legacies by banning History in our schools is a native of the Abeokuta which this Yoruba guy hails from hence I am not surprised.

Actually the monarchs are the costudians of the culture of the people, so you can absolutely tell by the traditions of the kings. And yes the Anioma are Edo.
(Obi of Agbor below)

MightySparrow:


Matthew Obasanjo