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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Bodyodour: 11:18am On Feb 18, 2021
ceejay80s:

People wey spoke engrish pass u, na him u wanted to go teachet engrish to for obodo oyibo?
non English speaking country I meant
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Bodyodour: 11:19am On Feb 18, 2021
iLiquidator:
Do you want to go to Canada and teach them their Language?�
it must not be Canada nah
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by ceejay80s(m): 11:20am On Feb 18, 2021
Bodyodour:
non English speaking country I meant
Ok
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by GeneralPula: 11:29am On Feb 18, 2021
Bodyodour:
art is really at a disadvantage.

What he said is kind of baseless to me..

Language affects almost everything either arts or science..

You can’t study Nursing in an English country, then you proceed to Japan or Vietnam and expect it to be easy as well..

Art is not useless in abroad.

As long as you’re good in your field, you’re go to go!
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by ugohdignity111(m): 11:30am On Feb 18, 2021
So graduates that studied Environmental biology/Zoology for Nigeria, if they are opportuned to travel abroad, they will make it there?

So all this courses like
Parasitology
Entomology
Toxicology
Environmental Biology
Biotechnology
Soil science
Animal science
Molecular biology and genetics
Biochemistry and the likes are not entirely useless abi?

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Zeeknow3245(m): 11:31am On Feb 18, 2021
If you learn language courses you will not need to travel abroad
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by apolonius(m): 11:31am On Feb 18, 2021
SocialJustice:
Hello, thanks for taking time out to write this post. You have done something I am considering doing but not sure and I also have another path in mind. The 2 are explained below.

Option 1
Relocating to England to do an accelerated LLB up to LLD in corporate law. I want to know the opportunities available in doing this.

Option 2
On the other hand, I want to come to England as a tourist, overstay and appeal not to return to Nigeria based on my mental and physical health while I focus on building my business in real estate and Amazon.

Option 1 could delay my ability to focus fully on my business, while option 2 allows me to focus fully on my business without any distractions.

Please advise on the path you feel is better.

Great plans.

Option 1 is doable but expensive. More importantly, with the benefits of hindsight, I will do LLB(JD) and an LLM in Canada. Doing it here will open unimaginable doors for you that the UK won’t open in 40 years.

Option 2-I can’t advice because of professional ethics. But I will say direct the plan to Canada. Will likely succeed and be far less challenging with proper guidance and information.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Coldie(m): 11:31am On Feb 18, 2021
I won't lie arts courses are almost useless
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by VanBommel(m): 11:31am On Feb 18, 2021
sulaak:


We are in the 4th Industrial Revolution the skills that are in demand are STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) related support new technologies such as Bitcoin, Blockchain, AI/ML, IOT, Robotics, Space technologies, Biotechnology, and Solar Battery. We still need business managers and creative people, but a background in STEM is critical.

Some of the best programmers in AI/ML have a background in Art and creative subjects, so I will get on my bike and start learning how to code.

I like this truth
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Coldie(m): 11:32am On Feb 18, 2021
ugohdignity111:
So graduates that studied Environmental biology/Zoology for Nigeria, if they are opportuned to travel abroad, they will make it there?

So all this courses like
Parasitology
Entomology
Toxicology
Environmental Biology
Biotechnology
Soil science
Animal science
Molecular biology and genetics
Biochemistry and the likes are not entirely useless abi?
Just go do masters for nursing since u be science student. Thank me later
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by heendrix(m): 11:33am On Feb 18, 2021
Mindlog:


Yes, you will have to apply for UK's Msc Psychology (Conversion). This conversion masters is for those like you, who are coming from a different discipline and after which you can now go for your desired specialization. For me, my undergraduate being psychology and already obtained my Graduate membership of the British Psychological Society, am going in directly for my specialization: Msc Clinical Child Psychology.

Thanks xoxo Bro smiley but the issue is I might not be doing mind at the UK I've only got link in Canada n Australia

Plus people say it's a lil hard moving from a Faculty like renewable natural resources to Social science (Psychology) so I was actually thinking of getting a second Bsc degree in Psychology tho it looks like time wasting another 4years esp in this part of the world where ASUU n FG might still delay you. I just hope switching is quite easy like you said without doing PGD or something
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by cooltola(m): 11:35am On Feb 18, 2021
1. Law is different abroad. Just because you are lawyer in Naija does not qualify abroad. You have to go that country law school, take their law exams and pass to even practise law. The reason is laws differs in countries e.g cryptocurrency is legal in the Uk but in Nigeria is illegal.
2. Agriculture science- different weather
Different soil , different country.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by VTJN(m): 11:44am On Feb 18, 2021
apolonius:
I haven’t logged on to post for awhile but for the silly generalizations on this topic.

Art courses are relevant and useful in the West just like science courses. It depends on where you are, what you want, what you know and who is guiding you.

I have lived in the UK for 11 years, and Canada for some years. While I studied in the former to PhD level, I did art(law). It has served me well.

I know many who read art courses who are doing well in the financial, legal, healthcare, business and hospitality industries in Canada.

In short, they read these courses from places like Abia, Osun, Ebonyi, Delta, Ogun and Ekiti states.

I know science graduates too.

Through the Canadian NCA process, I have met and continue to interact with many Naija lawyers trying to practice here. Some work in courts, law firms and big professional services firms like PWC, Deloitte, Denton...while writing their licensing exams.

The licensing exams that Naija lawyers write are also written by American, British and Australian lawyers who want to practice law in Canada. It’s not peculiar to Naija lawyers.

Naija and other African doctors even face greater and tougher pathways to getting licensed here.

Engineers, nurses and teachers from across the world face licensing requirements and demands here too. Reason?

...Traditional professions are elitist and regulated to ensure credibility, control and compliance, and standardization.

In Canada, the UK, the US and co, all immigrants go through processes and seasons to settle in. Reason? We were not born here, didn’t study here and couldn’t have built the organic network for easy ascension.

It takes time to study, graduate and work in Naija where we were born and raised. It’s not abnormal and it is expected to take same, if not longer time, away from home in societies that are many decades, if not centuries, ahead of ours.

Over 30,000 Nigerians moved to Canada since 2015...The opportunities and areas of accomplishments and struggles are diverse across science and the arts.

Guys, do your research before you generalize.Stop listening to single and half stories of people who are determined to stay in their comfort zones on the sidelines of these societies.

I can speak confidently about the UK and Canada. Ask questions, if you have.

is Geography degree relevance in Canada and UK?
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by chidaddy1198(m): 11:51am On Feb 18, 2021
well said. I am highly devastated that I didn't do anything called sciences, IT and engineering related because this are real skill that has provided solutions to the word. The art courses this days have being fully taken over by tech.
in fact, advise to my self and to may be others willing not to repeat same mistake is to go learn or train there wards in science related skills, IT and engineering.
skill relevant to me are mathematics, statistics, excel, engineering and anything IT related call it programming app development, just name what do I really know?
Activist001:
Most art degrees are pretty much useless when compared to STEM courses. They don't produce anything that brings money or jobs.

This is me being honest here.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by chidaddy1198(m): 11:52am On Feb 18, 2021
chidaddy1198:
well said. I am highly devastated that I didn't do anything called sciences, IT and engineering related because this are real skill that has provided solutions to the word. The art courses this days have being fully taken over by tech.
in fact, advise to my self and to may be others willing not to repeat same mistake is to go learn or train there wards in science related skills, IT and engineering.
skill relevant to me are mathematics, statistics, excel, engineering and anything IT related call it programming app development, just name what do I really know?
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by CSTRR: 12:01pm On Feb 18, 2021
The current minister of justice and solicitor general for Alberta Canada is a Nigerian that studied law in Nigeria.

He immigrated in the early 2000s and it must have taken him a long time to get the required certificates in Canada.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Yankee101: 12:02pm On Feb 18, 2021
Everyone can/will get a job. But the STEM graduate has a better chance of a better job
That's why those countries are developed. They place emphasis on science, technology, engineering and mathematics
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by CSTRR: 12:03pm On Feb 18, 2021
chidaddy1198:
well said. I am highly devastated that I didn't do anything called sciences, IT and engineering related because this are real skill that has provided solutions to the word. The art courses this days have being fully taken over by tech.
in fact, advise to my self and to may be others willing not to repeat same mistake is to go learn or train there wards in science related skills, IT and engineering.
skill relevant to me are mathematics, statistics, excel, engineering and anything IT related call it programming app development, just name what do I really know?
Go and learn how to code/programming.
It does not need a science background.

You can become science oriented by your own making and by force.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Mindlog: 12:04pm On Feb 18, 2021
heendrix:


Thanks xoxo Bro smiley but the issue is I might not be doing mind at the UK I've only got link in Canada n Australia

Plus people say it's a lil hard moving from a Faculty like renewable natural resources to Social science (Psychology) so I was actually thinking of getting a second Bsc degree in Psychology tho it looks like time wasting another 4years esp in this part of the world where ASUU n FG might still delay you. I just hope switching is quite easy like you said without doing PGD or something

I don't know about Canada and Australia in terms of doing Masters in Psychology based on your Agric background but don't waste time on a second Bsc degree in Psychology in Nigeria.

My path is doing a one year Masters in Clinical Child Psychology then move on to do a 3 year Doctorate in Clinical Psychology (DClinpsy) which now make one a Chartered Psychologist. In the UK the word "Psychologist" is a protected title and ONLY those with Doctorate are addressed as such, anything below Doctorate (Msc, MA, BA, Bsc) one is regarded as Assistant Psychologist, I also know in Canada one is regarded as an Assistant with those degrees.

With that above I have options of relocating to Canada or Australia very easily.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by TheSociopath(m): 12:10pm On Feb 18, 2021
IT is for everybody. Learn one IT skill and gain some experience, japa will be on the horizon for you. Cheers!
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by CSTRR: 12:11pm On Feb 18, 2021
In fact, I think in the sciences, the medical science have even greater job prospects than the maths and engineering specialities.

To even immigrate with an engineering background this days, your first degree must be exceptional.
First class or 2:1 bigger than 4.0.

Medical sciences need far more people compared to the Engineering and the maths and so the academic requirements are not as great.

Infact, an averagely gifted nurse in Nigeria has a better job prospect in Canada than an Engineer with first class in Ñigeria.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by GoldenLady714: 12:14pm On Feb 18, 2021
Absolutely...you can take a course on any IT program within your area and learn some digital high ranking skills

Or you enroll on a new IT/Computer Science degree and start afresh if you have the time and resources...tho when you through...you will still have to go for short courses...

Goodluck

what kind of courses please and what duration is assigned to them?
will certificates be issued upon completion?
are they special schools for acquiring training on those courses?
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Guru9ja(m): 12:14pm On Feb 18, 2021
This is really serious. with the way law is been hyped in Nigeria, those that are in science field will even be considering switching to law.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by yusman14(m): 12:15pm On Feb 18, 2021
yumu:
it is the favour and mercy of God that play out not your course of study.
Don't deceive yourself.. sciences has always been superior to art...most of the world's richest men are scientists while few are business men like Dangote..Dangote studied business administration in university of Cairo, Egypt....you can never see a lawyer on the list..
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Komu1048(m): 12:21pm On Feb 18, 2021
Bodyodour:
Why is it only science related courses that is mostly discussed on nairaland travel section ? Is it that art courses are useless? We art graduates also want to travel abroad too. You guys should try and discuss art courses lucrative abroad,please. Not every time engineering, medicine and IT.

Art is very underated here embarassed

Abroad dey hungry us too.



Must you travel abroad? Nigeria favours art n commercial graduate. They will just sit down in offices and be stealing whereas science are on the field sweating. All those useless courses like accting, mgt, law, r useless
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by marylandcakes: 12:23pm On Feb 18, 2021
Bodyodour:
Why is it only science related courses that is mostly discussed on nairaland travel section ? Is it that art courses are useless? We art graduates also want to travel abroad too. You guys should try and discuss art courses lucrative abroad,please. Not every time engineering, medicine and IT.

Art is very underated here embarassed

Abroad dey hungry us too.

Art graduates are also valued in the western world but they are in abundance while there is a great demand for the sciences. It’s all about demand and supply.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by prosperioh(m): 12:28pm On Feb 18, 2021
Pls can i get ur mail, i just finished my BS.c in psychology and will like to get some info from you, thanks.
Mindlog:


Yes, you will have to apply for UK's Msc Psychology (Conversion). This conversion masters is for those like you, who are coming from a different discipline and after which you can now go for your desired specialization. For me, my undergraduate being psychology and already obtained my Graduate membership of the British Psychological Society, am going in directly for my specialization: Msc Clinical Child Psychology.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:29pm On Feb 18, 2021
CSTRR:
In fact, I think in the sciences, the medical science have even greater job prospects than the maths and engineering specialities.

To even immigrate with an engineering background this days, your first degree must be exceptional.
First class or 2:1 bigger than 4.0.

Medical sciences need far more people compared to the Engineering and the maths and so the academic requirements are not as great.

Infact, an averagely gifted nurse in Nigeria has a better job prospect in Canada than an Engineer with first class in Ñigeria.

Engineering is horrible even with good grades. The only aspects of engineering worth getting into now are either computer or electrical engineering.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Mindlog: 12:32pm On Feb 18, 2021
prosperioh:
Pls can i get ur mail, i just finished my BS.c in psychology and will like to get some info from you, thanks.

Just replied your mail.
Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by mofedamijo(m): 12:40pm On Feb 18, 2021
Don't let anyone deceive you, every aspect of you is highly needed in the society.
We have sales guys who make more money than IT guys in the u.s. Go for courses in areas where they have limited people.

1) Pharmaceutical Sales man does not need a science degree. If you know what you're doing, you will make six figures in the u.s of A easily.

2)Social Workers Earn good too.

3) Teachers make good living.

4) Retail Supervisors.

5) Logistics companies need you too. A friend got a USPS job for $50 an hour in the u.s just last year.

Stop reading on all this science whatever. Focus on what you can offer.

The good thing with been in the Art is that you're versatile and can't be boxed in a corner. You can do any Job in any organisation. STEM jobs might pay well, but the competition is crazy especially if you're from Africa. The Chinese and Indians will beat you to it, especially IT related jobs.

Thats why you as an Art, social science or Education or management guy can go from admin jobs to property management, property development, supervisors, social worker, teacher, social research, hospital management/administration, fleet supervisor..... The list is endless.

Secondly, the u.s doesn't care much about your degree, if the job doesn't come quickly, do a four month - six month courses in the job you would love to do. Times and things have changed. We now see nurses in America working as teachers because they got fed up.


For the record, the best guys in engineering in the u.s do not have a degree, that is fact. They have experience. You see that you engineering certificate and stem certificate you keep pampering, it will be useless when you get to the u.s, because your boss is not interested in that. He wants to know what equipment and jobs you have handled. If you lie, you will be caught on the job.

Petroleum engineers, aircraft engineers, construction engineers and the rest are the high paying ones, guess what, those guya don't have a degree but wealth of experience.

You will find a Nigerian who studied English, gets to the u.s, and start working as a caregiver. He makes money, go to nursing school while still working, get his/her cert. And within 4-5years, he is a registered nurse.

Things have changed. 4years might look far, but ask yourself, have you achieved alot in the last 4years? The truth is, any society that gives you a job while you're building yourself is the best place to be and that is what makes Canada and America stand out.
You can be working and studying and have a nice car, a decent home and a decent savings. Enjoy basic amenities and have a future. This is where Nigeria sucks horribly.

When you travel out, Get a decent job, get certified in the areas you would love to get that high paying job and forget about this STEM thing.

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Re: Is It Only Those That Did Science Related Courses That Get Jobs Abroad? by Nobody: 12:41pm On Feb 18, 2021
Sysdatek:


no dangote and shell go leave SANS that have been practicing for 30 years plus to come and hire you for their legal issues grin grin grin grin

when you don grad go work for free for one chamber you go understand say , life after law school no be beans
I'm not doing law number one, number two you think the tech world chooses just anyone, I pity anyone foolish enough to waste his life, last last na Open source projects you go do till you die.

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