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Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by aloyemeka2: 2:37am On Apr 20, 2011
gadogado:

There is no born to rule mentality, thats just what you southerners cooked up to rally yourselves against northern political forces. Lame! the riots happened because the election was rigged, goodluck did not get and could not get 40% of sokoto votes as the results showed!

Dont rig elections and there will be no violence! under ordinary circumstances, with no cheating, the election would go into a run off!!! not gej winning by over 10 million votes!! big lie!! rigging!!! you know it, the whole country knows the elections were rigged, northerners, if you heard what they were chanting, were aggrieved by the margin of loss not necessarily because gej "won" All the PDP knows is rigging! they're criminals and have no true legitimacy! if you recall in 1993, Kano people voted en mass for a southerner (MKO ABIOLA) over a son of the soil (Bashir Tofa)

in 1999, there was an agreement, saying power will rotate between north and south, it went to the north for 8 years and reciprocity and adherence to the agreement was naturally expected. It came back to the north, pres died in no time, then it was ok for the vp to continue, but naturally, the agreement should have stayed and gej step down for a northerner in 2011. But southerners said theres no agreement, which agreement, so this is now wayo!!! good and fine, lets have an honest election then, but no, they had to rig!

Most northerners want the country split in two, there's unity in the north and understanding! the only thing keeping southerners united in your hate for the north, if we break up, you'll swallow each other!! The northern elite who have hoarded all the money along with the southern elite are the only people "NIGERIA" is serving so they'll fight to keep the status quo, what average northerner smells oil money? pls tell me! when they're hungry so oil means jack, they couldn't be bothered since a split doesn't mean they lose anything, the only people that will lose are the less than 1000 individuals that make up the core of the northern elite, they all know each other and inter marry!!! get it straight people! I'm a northerner and I'd rather see the country broken up since it doesn't look like we can coexist as a united nation! many countries that have no oil are doing better than Nigeria anyway so oil is not a requisite for livelihood or even prosperity i dare to say, the north was doing fine pre oil before being inflicted with the dastardly dutch disease by the south!!

You can't keep to agreements and the cheat in elections!! so we might as well split! The condition being, for the sake of the history and the many positive effects we've had on each other (it hasn't all been negative hate) you allow us a port through dredging the Niger river and we'll be out of your skin in no time!! There's oil on the Nigerian side of lake Chad anyway since it exists on the Chadian side and the soil and geology is the same, it therefore must exist on the Nigerian side! politics won't let us be serious about exploration!!! But I'd love to split the country!!


What of the continuous violence in Jos, are they due to rigging?

Which agreement? with who?
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by smooooooth: 2:44am On Apr 20, 2011
this was the same buhari that said he will accept the outcome of the presidential elections o. did he ever think he will win an election in this country?
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by soloqy: 7:38am On Apr 20, 2011
Kobojunkie:

Since the SE/SS seem to be sweet on PDP let's see the PDP Governors WIN come Saturday!!! WOOHOOO

Just like you have read several times here(but still turn a blind eye to it) People voted for Jonathan and not PDP.

The governors that they like will remain . Uduaghan an Ogboru will have strong battle but Uduaghan may edge it.

Ohakim is gone.

Enugu's governor will be retained
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by seguno2: 8:30am On Apr 20, 2011
gadogado:

There is no born to rule mentality, thats just what you southerners cooked up to rally yourselves against northern political forces. Lame! the riots happened because the election was rigged, goodluck did not get and could not get 40% of sokoto votes as the results showed!

Dont rig elections and there will be no violence! under ordinary circumstances, with no cheating, the election would go into a run off!!! not gej winning by over 10 million votes!! big lie!! rigging!!! you know it, the whole country knows the elections were rigged, northerners, if you heard what they were chanting, were aggrieved by the margin of loss not necessarily because gej "won" All the PDP knows is rigging! they're criminals and have no true legitimacy! if you recall in 1993, Kano people voted en mass for a southerner (MKO ABIOLA) over a son of the soil (Bashir Tofa)

in 1999, there was an agreement, saying power will rotate between north and south, it went to the north for 8 years and reciprocity and adherence to the agreement was naturally expected. It came back to the north, pres died in no time, then it was ok for the vp to continue, but naturally, the agreement should have stayed and gej step down for a northerner in 2011. But southerners said theres no agreement, which agreement, so this is now wayo!!! good and fine, lets have an honest election then, but no, they had to rig!

Most northerners want the country split in two, there's unity in the north and understanding! the only thing keeping southerners united in your hate for the north, if we break up, you'll swallow each other!! The northern elite who have hoarded all the money along with the southern elite are the only people "NIGERIA" is serving so they'll fight to keep the status quo, what average northerner smells oil money? pls tell me! when they're hungry so oil means jack, they couldn't be bothered since a split doesn't mean they lose anything, the only people that will lose are the less than 1000 individuals that make up the core of the northern elite, they all know each other and inter marry!!! get it straight people! I'm a northerner and I'd rather see the country broken up since it doesn't look like we can coexist as a united nation! many countries that have no oil are doing better than Nigeria anyway so oil is not a requisite for livelihood or even prosperity i dare to say, the north was doing fine pre oil before being inflicted with the dastardly dutch disease by the south!!

You can't keep to agreements and the cheat in elections!! so we might as well split! The condition being, for the sake of the history and the many positive effects we've had on each other (it hasn't all been negative hate) you allow us a port through dredging the Niger river and we'll be out of your skin in no time!! There's oil on the Nigerian side of lake Chad anyway since it exists on the Chadian side and the soil and geology is the same, it therefore must exist on the Nigerian side! politics won't let us be serious about exploration!!! But I'd love to split the country!!


You should be ashamed of yourself for endorsing violence by your hausa/fulani mis-educated and uneducated brethren.
And to imagine that you are in the US shocked
SO WHY DON'T YOU FOLKS REQUEST FOR A REFERENDUM TO SPLIT THE COUNTRY INTO TWO
What are you waiting for
To discover oil in Sokoto river or where
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Nobody: 8:36am On Apr 20, 2011
Who cares if there was rigging, we do not need a President in the name of Buhari, Buhari can not even speak English Language.

Buhari is a military psyche
Buhari is too 19th Century
Buhari is not interested in moving forward, but interested in fighting people.
Buhari can not accept defeat
Buhari cries in public, he will be a crying president.
Buhari is a religious fanatic
Buhari speaks hausa when asked questions in english

Buhari's time is up, he belongs to the cabal of IBB, Abdulsalam, and OBJ and should stay there.

Mark my word, there is no place for any ex-soldier in Nigerian presidency, any party that fields any ex-soldier on elective positive will lose face down
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by molola(f): 10:22am On Apr 20, 2011
so, election was rigged fine
buhari does not agree to results fine

how does that justify the killing of innoccent people?

this same Buhari (who by the way claims that his supporters have nothing to do with the killings) is not sympathetic to what is going on.

how does he sleep at night
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by tunene: 11:00am On Apr 20, 2011
I care if there was rigging.

I do not see the reason why we condemn other elections and glorify this one when we know they was massive rigging everywhere.

Goodluck would have still won but PDP would not stop rigging elections. This is another case of a good man in a bad party.

Take Imo for instance, it was widely reported that voters turnout was low and we had 80+% (that is not low turn out). In the Port Harcourt (where I stay) the story is worse. You need to be on the street. Matters was made worse as no TV not even  the local ones told us what happened in Port Harcourt.

Here is a bit of what happened in Port Harcourt (this is a report from what I saw and what a fellow who was an INEC official told me)

- In some polling stations around Elelewon and Eleme, voters were intimidated to vote for PDP or leave the polling Boothe
- On Abuloma road, some people presented money (1000, 1500, 2000, 3000) and told the voters, thump print for PDP and we give u the said amount. In this polling stations, there was nothing like secret ballot, people stand by you to thumb print.
- Another case happened in Okrika and Elelewon (reported by the Inec fellow) - I was thinking the rigging was done at the collation centres but I was informed that the rigging was done at the polling centres. All there did was estimate (by counting) the number of voters who have come to vote, calculate the remaining who have not come to vote and sometimes take 80 or 90% of the remaining and then somebody thumb prints for PDP.

SIR, THERE WAS RIGGING AND THE ELECTION WAS NEITHER FREE NOR FAIR NOT EVEN CREDIBLE.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by tunene: 11:01am On Apr 20, 2011
No matter what there is no justification for the killings. If BUhari is sincere that he has nothing to do with the killings he should go to the middle of the crises and talk to his brothers, they will listen to him.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Zapence(m): 1:11pm On Apr 20, 2011
gists:

If he is a bad loser, why is he not contesting SW results? If he is going to lose fine, someone must definitely lose. But to cheat is what is not allowed.

i guess (massive) under-aged voting ain't cheating to you.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by mrmayor(m): 2:01pm On Apr 20, 2011
bamosagie:

the people voted [b][size=13pt]Goodluck Ebele Jonathan [/b]not [b]PDP[/size]

Keep saying that over and over if it makes you feel better.

otokx:

The same people will vote Akala, Uduaghan, Ohakim, Orji, etc and not PDP. What a lame logic?

What lame logic indeed,You didn't add our big bros Amaechi. Would be nice to see return of his( Thief in Chief, Oyesom Wike)Chief of Staff and LGA chairmen
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by epitome001: 2:11pm On Apr 20, 2011
By Mobolaji E. Aluko, PhD (From sahara repoters, http://www.saharareporters.com/article/monday-quarter-backing-matter-2011-presidential-election-nigeria)

Dear Compatriots: 1. After a false and aborted start on April 2, two sets of elections have now come and  gone in Nigeria:  April 9 (National Assembly elections) and April 16 (Presidential elections).  The third round (the Gubernatorial and state assembly elections, along with some national assembly elections postponed from April 9)  will be held on Tuesday April 26.

2.  I have provided in the Appendix several summary tables and a map of the two elections so far.

3. I want to be categorical in stating that I believe strongly that so far, 2011 Elections have been better than 1999, 2003 and 2007, but there are still some slips between the cup and the lip between registration, accreditation, voting, counting, pasting, collation and announcement. 

For example, with respect to the new (and verily expensive) voter registration that was embarked upon, it is true that country-wide there could have, must have been multiple registrations, and so in general registration numbers may be inflated.  I was, for example,  alarmed when between the provisional number and the final number, the number of registered voters in Niger State suddenly went from 721,478 to 2,175,421.   But the Modified Open-Secret Ballot System (MOBS) - as in June 12, 1993 -  that Jega sprung on us all made it rather difficult for people to go from polling booth to polling booth to vote due to double registration, since you had to STAY to accredit first, and then return at a set time to vote.

Therefore, on the whole, to rig in these elections, you have to be more sophisticated that in previous times.

But even then, rigging is possible.  For example, I understand that a different rigging method was introduced this time in some polling units in at least one of the states - it was phoned in to me.  That is -  multiple registration and voting AT THE SAME polling unit. This is how it worked:   Suppose there were 300 registered voters in a PU, and only 100 came to be accredited.  Then through connivance with electoral officers and intimidation of those who would protest, some of those 100 would be allowed to stay and re-accredit in place of those 200 that did not come.  Then they will also be allowed to re-vote - twice, sometimes three times.

However,  in general kudos to INEC Chairman Prof. Jega, and to President Goodluck Jonathan who appointed him. So far, we seemed to have cleaned up in major fashion the first five steps, but it seems that we still need to clean up the last two steps to prevent the possibility or actualities of what has now been called "air rigging", which can very easily be proved if the complainants insist.  That is MAJOR progress that we can (or should be able to) live with. 

Hopefully, 2015 will be even much better, or even before then, April 26, 2011!

4.  Incumbent president Goodluck Jonathan has been declared winner and presented his certificate by INEC Chairman Prof. Jega.  The only hope for Buhari to have won - or even to force a run-off - was  heavy turn-out and many wins in the South-Western states, whether there was an alliance or not;  he was already heavily favored in much of the North and not at all in the SS and SE.  Without the alliance though, and as the numbers from various polling units (where there were absolutely no concerns about rigging) started to come in early last Saturday in the SW showing wins for Jonathan, all hope for him was lost by 6 pm Nigerian time on that day.

3.  The South-South/SouthEast (SS/SE) conundrum on presidential election results is not just about percentage of voters opting for Jonathan in those states per se, but voter turnout on a state-by-state basis.  They were unusually high (67% in those two regions), and as high as 86% in Bayelsa. (The Bayelsa figure was 107% of the initial provisional number).

Let me give  a number of examples, starting with  Imo State.  On April 16, it recorded 1,409,850 voters out of 1,687,293 registered voters in this presidential election,  for a voter turn-out of 83.6%, right?     However, in the April 9 election to the Senate of that same state, the total votes were as follows (taking them from an INEC table):

   - Imo East:  228,274 voters (won by Chris Anyanwu of APGA, with 84,342 votes)
   - Imo West: 212,957 voters (won by Hope Uzodinma of PDP, with 85,042 votes)
   - Imo North: 114,244 voters (won by Ambassador Nwagwu of PDP, with 60,449 votes
  ---------------------------------------------
      TOTAL: 555,475 votes
  ---------------------------------------------

That means that in one week, the number of people who came to the polls in Imo for the National Assembly elections almost tripled (from 32.9% voter turnout) for the Presidential elections?

Now that may however be a reflection of the high anxiety over the fact of the news of registration numbers that gave such overwhelming advantage to the SW and NW.  , but I will be hard-pressed to go along COMPLETELY with that fact.  It turned out that  SW voter turnout was abysmal (32%) while NW show was just above 50% (actually 54.5%).
Next, let us look at Lagos State:  1,945,044 voters in the presidential elections, out of 6,108,069 registered voters for a 31.8% voter turn out.

But on April 9 we had (again using INEC figures):

    - Lagos Central: 301,570 voters  (won by ACN's Remi Tinubu 202,506)
    - Lagos East: 320,372 total voters (won ACN's Gbenga Ashafa 222,439)
    - Lagos West: 812,924 total voters (won by ACN's Ganiyu Solomon 503,786)
-------------------------------------------------
      TOTAL: 1,434,866 total voters
  ------------------------------------------------

This amounted to a 23.9% voter turn-out - meaning that the presidential turnout step-up by less than 10% was quite believable.

Finally, I looked at Katsina, which on April 16 had 52.5% turn out with 1,639,532 voters out of 3,126,898 registered. On April 9 for Katsina we had:

   - Katsina North (395,693 voters) (won by Audu Yandoma of CPC 315,324 votes)
   - Katsina South (546,549 voters) (won by Abu Ibrahim of CPC 324,652 votes)
   - Katsina Central (430,886 voters) (won by Ahmed Store of CPC 217,154 votes)
-------------------------------------------------
    TOTAL: 1,373,128 voters

for a voter turnout of 43.9%, again for an increase of less than 10% going up to the presidential race.

By the way, the same analysis  done COUNTRY-wide (including in the North) to compare April 9 to April 16 will be found in Table 4 below.   I just wanted to use that these examples to indicate some discrepant suspicion, that is all, but there could be good explanations for them for the delays - bad roads, delayed materials - some lame.

Please understand that I do not doubt the % of votes given to Jonathan in the SE and SS, given the almost complete lack of competition in those areas by Buhari and Ribadu. With an incumbent "Easterner", a like-able Otuoke son with an Ogbia-Ijaw name like Ebele (that can be confused with Ebel(r)echukwu) and a nickname Azikiwe being the man to vote for, he was a shoo-in.   But what can be jiggled is the TOTAL turnout, which an Excel spreadsheet can easily be used to work to the answer:  just hold the percentages fixed, but juggle the total voters turnout figure to get a pre-determined national outcome - and by the way, just in case rigging is going on elsewhere too, where full advantage is being taken of the large differential registration of the NW and SW! 

4.  There is also the perception and the reality.  Honestly, I would have loved on Election Day for results to be pouring in from all parts of the country on a random basis - this one from a SE state, then that one from NW state, then from a SW state, a couple from SS, then NE, etc.   I just craved no ill-perceptions in these presidential elections.    But for virtually all of the day, nothing was received from the SS and the SE, as if some reports were being held back to see what to do later.  That may not have been the case - but it sure looked like it.  We should watch out for that next time - both in local and national elections.

5.  It is doubtful if CPC and ACN party agents were in 10% of the polling units in the SS and SE.  However, that a party's polling agent is not at a polling unit does not mean it loses its right not to be cheated.  Just thought that I should throw that in.  We should not condone the notion of property thievery simply because the owner is not around.

6.  No electoral democracy is perfect - and ours needs serious improvement.  However, we must eschew  violence, and rather use the courts carefully to settle our grievances.  But before then, we must put honest men (like Jega) and women (yet to be fully discovered, not like those in those videos of thumb-printings!) in positions that have to do with the electoral process;  deploy technology appropriately and ensure that political parties and citizens protect their votes all the way,

7.  In conclusion, "Congratulations!" to President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan of Nigeria, worthy son of Otuoke village, in Ogbia-land of the Ijaw people in the Niger-Delta.

Best wishes always.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko
Turning in slowly,
Towards Otuoke
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by vedaxcool(m): 3:31pm On Apr 20, 2011
tunene:

No matter what there is no justification for the killings. If BUhari is sincere that he has nothing to do with the killings he should go to the middle of the crises and talk to his brothers, they will listen to him.

I think we have the armed forces to prevent breach of security, it is your incompetent Govt. that carries the bulk, as common-sense should have at least told them that after rigging prepare for the jigging
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by soloqy: 4:36pm On Apr 20, 2011
The wicked Despot Buhari just came on TV now to say he is heading to court.

He keeps saying different things at different times. He is an old man that should retire.

If he doesnt and continues in 2015, a very young man will humiliate him in the polls
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by ifekobi(m): 4:38pm On Apr 20, 2011
Now I understand this ex-military man. Only were he failed to win was manipulated with the excel program. I seriously think it's high time he started getting used to failure, must he always challenge all election results in both the past and present administration.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by gists: 4:39pm On Apr 20, 2011
Zapence:

i guess (massive) under-aged voting ain't cheating to you.

Of course I agree completely it is cheating if its true. But my question to you is; can u confirm d (massive) under-aged voting was for cpc or u just want to bliv that because it happened in the north. Who told you pdp couldn't have pulled that stunt? Look at it like this: GEJ is a xtian southerner. A popular notion is that d northern muslims will not vote 4 him right? It is said that Sambo even lost in his state. But he (GEJ) miraculously got more than d required 25% in practically all of d northern states. I will not be surprised if the well-oiled pdp rigging machinery was put to recruit the alleged under-age voters and that explains how he met the requirement. (the theory sounds more logical going by the antecedents of the POVERTY DEVELOPMENT PARTY PDP)
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Sagamite(m): 3:20am On Apr 21, 2011
gadogado:

There is no born to rule mentality, thats just what you southerners cooked up to rally yourselves against northern political forces. Lame! the riots happened because the election was rigged, goodluck did not get and could not get 40% of sokoto votes as the results showed!

Dont rig elections and there will be no violence! under ordinary circumstances, with no cheating, the election would go into a run off!!! not gej winning by over 10 million votes!! big lie!! rigging!!! you know it, the whole country knows the elections were rigged, northerners, if you heard what they were chanting, were aggrieved by the margin of loss not necessarily because gej "won" All the PDP knows is rigging! they're criminals and have no true legitimacy! if you recall in 1993, Kano people voted en mass for a southerner (MKO ABIOLA) over a son of the soil (Bashir Tofa)

in 1999, there was an agreement, saying power will rotate between north and south, it went to the north for 8 years and reciprocity and adherence to the agreement was naturally expected. It came back to the north, pres died in no time, then it was ok for the vp to continue, but naturally, the agreement should have stayed and gej step down for a northerner in 2011. But southerners said theres no agreement, which agreement, so this is now wayo!!! good and fine, lets have an honest election then, but no, they had to rig!

Most northerners want the country split in two, there's unity in the north and understanding! the only thing keeping southerners united in your hate for the north, if we break up, you'll swallow each other!! The northern elite who have hoarded all the money along with the southern elite are the only people "NIGERIA" is serving so they'll fight to keep the status quo, what average northerner smells oil money? pls tell me! when they're hungry so oil means jack, they couldn't be bothered since a split doesn't mean they lose anything, the only people that will lose are the less than 1000 individuals that make up the core of the northern elite, they all know each other and inter marry!!! get it straight people! I'm a northerner and I'd rather see the country broken up since it doesn't look like we can coexist as a united nation! many countries that have no oil are doing better than Nigeria anyway so oil is not a requisite for livelihood or even prosperity i dare to say, the north was doing fine pre oil before being inflicted with the dastardly dutch disease by the south!!

You can't keep to agreements and the cheat in elections!! so we might as well split! The condition being, for the sake of the history and the many positive effects we've had on each other (it hasn't all been negative hate) you allow us a port through dredging the Niger river and we'll be out of your skin in no time!! There's oil on the Nigerian side of lake Chad anyway since it exists on the Chadian side and the soil and geology is the same, it therefore must exist on the Nigerian side! politics won't let us be serious about exploration!!! But I'd love to split the country!!


You are a cretin!

So the 5m+ under-age voters from the north is not rigging?
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by OAM4J: 3:41am On Apr 21, 2011
Sagamite:

You are a cretin!

So the 5m+ under-age voters from the north is not rigging?

While am not in support of gadogado's post. I have refrained myself from  commenting on the allegation that Buhari rigged with under-age voters, but because its Saga raising it here I can discuss it with you. cheesy

Technically, the under-age rigging cannot be blamed on any party but INEC that registered them and we are also not sure which party they voted for or if they are divided among all the parties.

Except someone has a concrete evidence that a particular party bribed INEC, mobilized these under-age voters to register and vote for this particular party, it will be wrong to claim a party rigged with under-age voters.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by ektbear: 3:57am On Apr 21, 2011
^-- Lol. The underage voters probably weren't voting for GEJ.

Anyway, the most important thing is to answer the following two questions:
1) How was 70%+ turnout achieved in so many states that just a week before recorded turnout in the 30s?
2) How much (if any) underage voting took place in the North?

Who knows, maybe there was rigging in the SW too. But we need answers to all of these questions. It isn't enough to pretend that rigging in one place canceled out underaged voting in another place. We cannot run a democracy or society built on fraud.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Sagamite(m): 4:10am On Apr 21, 2011
OAM4J:

While am not in support of gadogado's post. I have refrained myself from  commenting on the allegation that Buhari rigged with under-age voters, but because its Saga raising it here I can discuss it with you. cheesy

Technically, the under-age rigging cannot be blamed on any party but INEC that registered them and we are also not sure which party they voted for or if they are divided among all the parties.

Except someone has a concrete evidence that a particular party bribed INEC, mobilized these under-age voters to register and vote for this particular party, it will be wrong to claim a party rigged with under-age voters.

Surely, I agree you cannot blame it on any party and have to blame it on INEC. grin

But it happened in the stronghold of CPC, so one can only reasonably, logically and rationally  grin assume that it was the strongholder that benefited the most.

Actually, my under-age estimates is more about circa 10m, I just allocated, conservatively, 5m to the benefit of Buhari and the remaining 5 distributed between the other three.

The reality is that the under-age voting is worse than the rigging levels the retaard is complaining about.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=647931.msg8163779#msg8163779

ekt_bear:

1) How was 70%+ turnout achieved in so many states that just a week before recorded turnout in the 30s?

Simple!

Most Nigerians are illiterates or quarter-baked.

They do not understand the concept of NASS and see them as insignificant small fry, so they don't care. They mainly care about the top-dog.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by naijaking1: 4:12am On Apr 21, 2011
Is Buhari rejecting results from 22 or 32 states?
Before all this is over, he will be rejecting results from 49 states cheesy
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by OAM4J: 4:33am On Apr 21, 2011
Sagamite:

Surely, I agree you cannot blame it on any party and have to blame it on INEC. grin

But it happened in the stronghold of CPC, so one can only reasonably, logically and rationally  grin assume that it was the strongholder that[b] benefited [/b]the most.

Actually, my under-age estimates is more about circa 10m, I just allocated, conservatively, 5m to the benefit of Buhari and the remaining 5 distributed between the other three.

The reality is that the under-age voting is worse than the rigging levels the retaard is complaining about.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=647931.msg8163779#msg8163779

Simple!

Most Nigerians are illiterates or quarter-baked.

They do not understand the concept of NASS and see them as insignificant small fry, so they don't care. They mainly care about the top-dog.

Yeah, benefited sounds more appropriate than rigged.  grin
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Sagamite(m): 4:45am On Apr 21, 2011
OAM4J:

Yeah, benefited sound more appropriate than rigged. grin

Maybe grammar is my problem. I think in Ijebu, so conversion sometimes means some things are lost in translation. grin

But I bet one can say the region rigged considering it was premeditated and elections officials were attacked for attempting to stop under-age voters. The region looked for a way to have an advantage.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by OAM4J: 4:52am On Apr 21, 2011
Sagamite:

Maybe grammar is my problem. I think in Ijebu, so conversion sometimes means some things are lost in translation. grin

But I bet one can say the region rigged considering it was premeditated and elections officials were attacked for attempting to stop under-age voters. The region looked for a way to have an advantage.

But the entire Northern region didn't vote for one party. there was no state CPC has 85% total vote casts unlike other regions. In some states like Kano and Kaduna PDP got more than 30%.

So we cannot say a region rigged. Abeg find another grammar jor grin
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by BetaThings: 5:07am On Apr 21, 2011
Sagamite:

Surely, I agree you cannot blame it on any party and have to blame it on INEC. grin

But it happened in the stronghold of CPC, so one can only reasonably, logically and rationally  grin assume that it was the strongholder that benefited the most.

Actually, my under-age estimates is more about circa 10m, I just allocated, conservatively, 5m to the benefit of Buhari and the remaining 5 distributed between the other three.

The reality is that the under-age voting is worse than the rigging levels the retaard is complaining about.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=647931.msg8163779#msg8163779

Simple!

Most Nigerians are illiterates or quarter-baked.

They do not understand the concept of NASS and see them as insignificant small fry, so they don't care. They mainly care about the top-dog.
10m will be very high! Buhari got 12m vote overall. 5m coming from underaged means that if you look at a queue, there will be at least about 1 underaged vote per 2 adults. BTW PDP got 26% in Katsina and 45% in Kaduna
About NASS, the controversy between Ngige and Dora tells us that the contestants at the NASS level are closer to the people and would also have mobilised them to vote
If Nigerians really don't care about NASS, how come it is only in the SE that turnout suddenly jumped. From 555k to 1.4m in 1 week is just curious
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Sagamite(m): 5:11am On Apr 21, 2011
OAM4J:

But the entire Northern region didn't vote for one party. there was no state CPC has 85% total vote casts unlike other regions. In some states like Kano and Kaduna PDP got more than 30%.

So we cannot say a region rigged. Abeg find another grammar jor  grin

But it is not about only state percentages na. It is about overall number of national electoral votes.  grin

If people are going to contest and a region decides to use koni-koni way to increase the number of people from its area that votes, and we know most likely each region votes across tribal lines (more so the North as they feel it is their "turn"wink, then that is a region rigging.

They might not have voted for one party, but they surely mostly voted for one party to increase the overall national vote numbers and it was clear from sun-rise where most of their votes were likely to go hence we can say that candidate benefited immensely from fraud. grin

BetaThings:

10m will be very high! Buhari got 12m vote overall. 5m coming from underaged means that if you look at a queue, there will be at least about 1 underaged vote per 2 adults. BTW PDP got 26% in Katsina and 45% in Kaduna
About NASS, the controversy between Ngige and Dora tells us that the contestants at the NASS level are closer to the people and would also have mobilised them to vote
If Nigerians really don't care about NASS, how come it is only in the SE that turnout suddenly jumped. From 555k to 1.4m in 1 week is just curious

Even though I have no shred of doubt that rigging took place in SE and SS mainly, I would still require you provide your source for the turnout figures you put above and for all the other zones.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by willdave: 10:18am On Apr 21, 2011
Buhari is a big loser anytime. Who is he to cancel the election. I think his going to be the only one 2 cast his vote for himself. If he like he can tell INEC to conduct the election 500times, Goodluck Jonathan will still win. Him who God has blessed no man can curse.
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by squirell5: 11:57am On Apr 22, 2011
No be today we ikebe dey for back. If non muslim mess or fart for north dem go riot. its all due to their state of poverty, zero education, & the fact that they r being brainwashed in to such cruelty. We can now see how badly buhari wants power,
Re: Buhari Rejects Results In 22 States And Fct by Horus(m): 9:48am On May 05, 2011
Sagamite:
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You are reetard!!!
No 1, you must be a cretin to think someone will never have seen a northerner abroad and be expecting a Yes or No answer.

No 2, you must be a dumbo not to note my response about Northerners scarcity abroad in my post.
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