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I have thought about this several times and wondered why as supposedly intelligent animals, we are unable to get our act together and eradicate issues such as poverty.

so i came up with several factors i think are the problem.

so let us imagine we can all start afresh and give everyone the same amount of money around the world, would this solve the problem?
for one, money aint a real thing, money is just like a contract or should i say a receipt that is guaranteeing that product and services can be provided at the issuance of the receipt and that that receipt was earned by provision of product and services.
this means even if we all have the same amount of money, we would get separated based on products and services we can provide and exchange, hence we would soon fine the smarter people in society collecting the money in the hands of others and soon, we are back to the problem of having poor people.

in my opinion, poor people deserve to be poor, they cannot be helped and should not be pitied.

what is your take?

Not possible with people like Buhari inhabiting this earth

When Jesus Christ comes again. Till then, forget it.

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Our Holy Bible tells us that.......

Supporter of Buhari quoting Bible

It is impossible

All men aren't equal, they have different abilities and talents.

Another reality is because of some people ability, they will have more than the other.

thebosstrevor1:
It is impossible

All men aren't equal, they have different abilities and talents.

Another reality is because of some people ability, they will have more than the other.

do you think Bill Gates is right that is we cut the world population enough, we can actually solve social problems such as poverty? i think it is a possibility. we can have a world where some people are very rich but at least we can also have a world where no one is too poor to take care of their fundamental needs is people would just stop giving birth to children they cannot care for.

HardMirror:

do you think Bill Gates is right that is we cut the world population enough, we can actually solve social problems such as poverty? i think it is a possibility. we can have a world where some people are very rich but at least we can also have a world where no one is too poor to take care of their fundamental needs is people would just stop giving birth to children they cannot care for.

It is still impossible, the problem about his idea is that it is not in touch with reality.

Go to your village and observe farmers given equal land and number of seeds, one farmer will outdo everyone with lot of yields while the others will do nothing, even if you take the prosperous farmers yeild and divide it among the less prosperous farmers and tell them to restart planting again, the prosperous farmer will still come on top.

The reality is people have different energy, zeal and ability.

Even if you give 5 people equal amounts of money to save, 3 or 4 people among them will squander theirs and be broke.

There are lot of families with less children but are still poor

HardMirror:

do you think Bill Gates is right that is we cut the world population enough, we can actually solve social problems such as poverty? i think it is a possibility. we can have a world where some people are very rich but at least we can also have a world where no one is too poor to take care of their fundamental needs is people would just stop giving birth to children they cannot care for.

Poverty is a sin problem, not a population problem. There are more angels in Heaven but no poverty there.

Modified. Forgive my bad, i went over your syllabus. Let's come back to earth.
There are more people in USA and China than in Nigeria. The poverty percentage is worse in Nigeria. So, it's not a population problem.

It can be ended but then you have to realize we are not all born equal some are born into poverty while some are born into riches some are very lucky while some face disaster after disaster but then even the lowest man can rise above the mountains.....

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Poverty is a sin problem, not a population problem. There are more angels in Heaven but no poverty there.

hahahahaha!!!!! oh my god! what?! have you been to heaven to know that there are angels there that are living in affluence?

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When did saying the truth become an insult
what the guy said is the truth....
its funny how even the devil qoutes the bible

please ignore that madam and contribute to the topic jare

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It can be ended but then you have to realize we are not all born equal some are born into poverty while some are born into riches some are very lucky while some face disaster after disaster but then even the lowest man can rise above the mountains.....

hmmm.... that is why i am suggesting that poor people should not give birth to children they cannot provide for, every child should come into this world with a fair chance at making it ant at least be guaranteed of food and shelter

HardMirror:
please ignore that madam and contribute to the topic jare

Yes back to topic i don't think its possible because we are not all born equal
but then nothing is certain

thebosstrevor1:


It is still impossible, the problem about his idea is that it is not in touch with reality.

Go to your village and observe farmers given equal land and number of seeds, one farmer will outdo everyone with lot of yields while the others will do nothing, even if you take the prosperous farmers yeild and divide it among the less prosperous farmers and tell them to restart planting again, the prosperous farmer will still come on top.

The reality is people have different energy, zeal and ability.

Even if you give 5 people equal amounts of money to save, 3 or 4 people among them will squander theirs and be broke.

There are lot of families with less children but they are still poor

you are making a lot of sense and i agree with you, but you are also missing the point. the point is not to make everyone rich, the point is to ensure everyone can take care of their basic needs. in ability to cater for ones basic needs is poverty.

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Poverty is a sin problem, not a population problem. There are more angels in Heaven but no poverty there.

Modified. Forgive my bad, i went over your syllabus. Let's come back to earth.
There are more people in USA and China than in Nigeria. The poverty percentage is worse in Nigeria. So, it's not a population problem.

ignoring the irrelevant mumblings of your post, you actually made sense in your second paragraph and that is what i would address.

in the united states, there are welfare programs that helps their population and china is a communist country that has structures in place to cater for their population, hence why the government only allows 2 children per family so they can cater for them under their social welfare programs.
so population still a key factor here

HardMirror:
hmmm.... that is why i am suggesting that poor people should not give birth to children they cannot provide for, every child should come into this world with a fair chance at making it ant at least be guaranteed of food and shelter

Well you have to consider that the poor people in the world are the majority while the rich are just a few minority of the population if the poor were to stop giving birth then majority of the population will be greatly reduced....
then secondly majority of the rich got rich in the first place by exploiting the poor without the poor people they will be nobody to exploit... We are all just connected in some way...

HardMirror:
you are making a lot of sense and i agree with you, but you are also missing the point. the point is not to make everyone rich, the point is to ensure everyone can take care of their basic needs. in ability to cater for ones basic needs is poverty.

The developed countries are rich, some of them have very low population but there are still many homeless on the streets, people begging to eat.

The idea that you can eradicate poverty is not realistic. Economy situation like financial crisis which happens in every business cycles will affect people and make them lose their homes, drug addictions to cope with their reality will affect this people and make them lose things.

Do bill gates really want to reduce population to eradicate poverty or he wants a smaller population so that he can have the ability to control them.

No; poverty cannot be eradicated in the society. The first reason being that we're not actually equal mentally. Give two lad the same amount of money and there's a 90% probability that one will multiply his allocated share. The second reason being that there are certain structures, put in place in every country that will always ensure economic disparity. I'm other words; it's not possible.

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Remove Africa and the world poverty rate will decrease a whole lot.

HardMirror:
hahahahaha!!!!! oh my god! what?! have you been to heaven to know that there are angels there that are living in affluence?

Have you been to all the countries that you have facts on?

HardMirror:
ignoring the irrelevant mumblings of your post, you actually made sense in your second paragraph and that is what i would address.

in the united states, there are welfare programs that helps their population and china is a communist country that has structures in place to cater for their population, hence why the government only allows 2 children per family so they can cater for them under their social welfare programs.
so population still a key factor here

Lol, you are in the religion section so talk about heaven and angels is not irrelevant, be objective please. And that's after you gave it a separate answer oh, you then go back to say it's irrelevant.

The simple point is, if population was the factor, then the bigger the population the bigger the poverty should be. But looking at USA, China and Nigeria, the case is not so. Until Jesus Christ comes, which is when there'll be no sin, poverty remains.

I don't think it's possible. Some people will always be short changed in life.

HardMirror:

in my opinion, poor people deserve to be poor, they cannot be helped and should not be pitied.

what is your take?

All the poor or some of the poor?

Your take is wrong.

People can be poor for a lot of factors.

Take for example, in the north, the elites and government encourages and grow poverty en mass via religion fanatism and ignorance.

An average poor northerner thinks education is haram and poverty is the will of Allah.

In Nigeria as a whole, the government is responsible for most of the poverty, so how then do you say the poor should not be pitied?

In the south, people are being owed salaries for months, some pensioners are yet to receive kobo after years of retirements.

The only set of people that should not be pitied are the lazy and poor.