tesppidd:
He would.

Not because he cares about Ronaldo or Fraud Adam.

But because he wants his team members to have a feel.


But I tell you about the primandona Ronaldo the world knows.


Ronaldo would trade a million team trophies for the World Cup Golden ball.
He always wants them all to himself!

TLona1:



This was the same way Messi led Argentina to the Copa America final against USA by scoring a brace.

LordAdamX:


...And then failed to win the trophy! Keep making my points for me.

-Lord

TLona1:


And what efforts did Ronaldo make in Euro 2016 final?

LordAdamX:


Since they left he has choked in 3 successive UCLs and you say he is the same consistent player. The only thing he's been consistent at, is showing he is a fraud.

And to your Maldini question, Maldini is not on the GOAT list; Messi is. You're comparing apples to oranges. The job of the defender is to stop goals from getting in; so even if they do their job; they can still go out through penalties. The job of an attacker is to score or facilitate a goal, so even if you concede, you outscore and win.

Seeing how much you guys extol Messi, anyone who didn't know better would think he could waltz into the pitch, pick the ball from the half-way line and dribble into the net in every game. The question is why hasn't he done so even once in four finals.

And Ramos is a more rounded defender than Maldini. I'd rather have Ramos in my team than Maldini.

-Lord

CrisRay:



So with all these individual awards he still needs to be carried by his teammates to win a trophy smh
Ronaldo is portugals greatest player. He doesnt need an individual medal for that. The silver ball he was given at the euro sef he gave it to Nani. Its not by all those ones.
On the other hand stat padding and dribbling doesnt equal being the greatest.

Maradona=Argentina greatest
Ronaldo=Portugal greatest


Even Argentines know this

nihilistjnr:

barackodam:
‼️ Antoine Griezmann has told Atléti that he's thinking of paying the €120M release clause himself, in order to join Barça, and the player therefore won't attend the presentation for preseason with the Colchoneros. Him paying the release clause is entirely legal. [@EduPolo , �]

ClintonNzedimma:
Let's be objective and logical, has Ronaldo achieved more than Messi in the national team? YES. Does it mean Ronaldo is better player than Messi. NO.
We Barcelona fans must first recognize what we are arguing, we don't have to downplay Ronaldo's achievement but you Ronaldo fans must be stupid to call Messi an international Failure. As for me, I choose Messi anytime. Ronaldo is good oh I swear...Ororo number 1, I would put him in my team anytime any day, but since I started watching football, I have never seen any player like Messi, I am being honest, I would still tell God the same thing on Judgement day

usbcable:

LordAdamX:


The issue is that some of the folks in your camp are still stuck in the past like Knicks fans.

Once upon a time, a cheap shot against Ronaldo when he still had just the one CL from his Manchester days was that he mostly only performed against small teams. After the 3-Peat, that's no longer the case.

Once upon a time, at Messi's peak the running bet was how soon he'd be able to eclipse Maradona; and since CR7 had just one Balon D'Or then and it didn't seem like the Messi-Iniesta-Xavi trident would slow anytime soon; Messi stans quickly elevated their MCM to GOAT status; conveniently disregarding CR7's outerworldly performances. Today after the 4-in-5 CL wins, Balon D'Or rack ups, NT glory, and age-agnostic performances, anyone who doesn't place CR7 in a top 3/5 GOAT list is either uninformed or mischievous.

Many Messi fans have their heads still stuck in 2010-2012. They'd rather our current timeline loops continuously over that three year period only. Today you have most people even Messi fans saying they'd rather have CR7 take a last minute spot kick or have him in their team. In 2011, many of the same folks didn't think he was worthy enough to step into the Barca first 11 despite being a Balon D'Or winner.

1. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown accustomed to seeing CR7 overperform in the last 5 years, while Messi has in the same time simply not lived up to the lofty ideals extoled by his proponents.
2. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown used to seeing Messi dribbling and scoring in a Barca shirt. It looked nice and novel in 2010. Now it's same old, same old. Yes you can dribble, cutbacks seem to always find you, you can score 50 goals; but against elite competition in Europe or at the NT level; are you able to by grinta take the team past the finish line?
3. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that Messi isn't competing with legends, he is contending with other GOAT candidates. When your competition is CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, and Zidane; dribbling a mid-level table player worth 1/50th of your going price doesn't move the needle however eye-catching it appears to be. It's the legacy; the performances that make people go who else but him in situations where others fold and crumble under pressure.

Messi was "apparently" supposed to make Maradona look ordinary. And now he can't win a COPA. A f*cking Copa America, while playing for Argentina. Are you guys trying to say if you put either of CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, or Zidane in each of the four Argentine final team Messi has played in, they'd not win even one of the finals whether by hook or by crook? Or that Messi who goes missing in the knockout stages with Argentina of all countries would somehow excel in the Portugal team CR7 has won with or the Dutch team Cryuff had exploits with?

You guys need to look in the f*cking mirror and realize you guys oversold on Messi and he underdelivered! All the other GOAT candidates worked hard at their craft, paid their dues, and ascended to GOAT status by sheer will and immense resolve.

No one ever looked at a 19-yr old Zidane, CR7, Cryuff, or Maradona and went off with the idea that they'd be the yardstick for others to compare. Even Pele after his exploits in his first WC win wasn't touted because no one at the time expected or believed he could achieve what he eventually did. Yet later on he defined what it meant to be a Great.

But a 19-yr old Messi was signed and delivered as the one to eclipse all the other greats.

Now that he's not being able to match the unholy targets you guys set for him yourselves, you expect those of who are fans of other greats and neutrals to give him a break?

WHY?

Shebi he can do everything? Let him playmake, pre-assist, assist, and score his way to a basic COPA America win. Don't tell us now that he's playing with a poor support cast. If he's supposed to be better than Maradona or CR7 he should be able to win with that poor support cast which curiously have an attack that has won everything there is to win in club football. How he intends to do it, we don't GAF! Just do it!

If Messi can't inspire Higuain or Aguero to a COPA Final win, I don't see how he'll be able to inspire an Eder or Guedes to a Euros win.

That's why we have been asking him to leave Catalonia. Because we know yes, he'd score goals, he'd dribble; but when the stakes are raised Oga will go missing and blame everyone even the pitch. And then even the small cover of Barcelona's system he's hiding under will blow out wide open with a stench like a blooming Rafflesia arnoldii flower.

-Lord

LordAdamX:


The issue is that some of the folks in your camp are still stuck in the past like Knicks fans.

Once upon a time, a cheap shot against Ronaldo when he still had just the one CL from his Manchester days was that he mostly only performed against small teams. After the 3-Peat, that's no longer the case.

Once upon a time, at Messi's peak the running bet was how soon he'd be able to eclipse Maradona; and since CR7 had just one Balon D'Or then and it didn't seem like the Messi-Iniesta-Xavi trident would slow anytime soon; Messi stans quickly elevated their MCM to GOAT status; conveniently disregarding CR7's outerworldly performances. Today after the 4-in-5 CL wins, Balon D'Or rack ups, NT glory, and age-agnostic performances, anyone who doesn't place CR7 in a top 3/5 GOAT list is either uninformed or mischievous.

Many Messi fans have their heads still stuck in 2010-2012. They'd rather our current timeline loops continuously over that three year period only. Today you have most people even Messi fans saying they'd rather have CR7 take a last minute spot kick or have him in their team. In 2011, many of the same folks didn't think he was worthy enough to step into the Barca first 11 despite being a Balon D'Or winner.

1. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown accustomed to seeing CR7 overperform in the last 5 years, while Messi has in the same time simply not lived up to the lofty ideals extoled by his proponents.
2. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown used to seeing Messi dribbling and scoring in a Barca shirt. It looked nice and novel in 2010. Now it's same old, same old. Yes you can dribble, cutbacks seem to always find you, you can score 50 goals; but against elite competition in Europe or at the NT level; are you able to by grinta take the team past the finish line?
3. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that Messi isn't competing with legends, he is contending with other GOAT candidates. When your competition is CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, and Zidane; dribbling a mid-level table player worth 1/50th of your going price doesn't move the needle however eye-catching it appears to be. It's the legacy; the performances that make people go who else but him in situations where others fold and crumble under pressure.

Messi was "apparently" supposed to make Maradona look ordinary. And now he can't win a COPA. A f*cking Copa America, while playing for Argentina. Are you guys trying to say if you put either of CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, or Zidane in each of the four Argentine final team Messi has played in, they'd not win even one of the finals whether by hook or by crook? Or that Messi who goes missing in the knockout stages with Argentina of all countries would somehow excel in the Portugal team CR7 has won with or the Dutch team Cryuff had exploits with?

You guys need to look in the f*cking mirror and realize you guys oversold on Messi and he underdelivered! All the other GOAT candidates worked hard at their craft, paid their dues, and ascended to GOAT status by sheer will and immense resolve.

No one ever looked at a 19-yr old Zidane, CR7, Cryuff, or Maradona and went off with the idea that they'd be the yardstick for others to compare. Even Pele after his exploits in his first WC win wasn't touted because no one at the time expected or believed he could achieve what he eventually did. Yet later on he defined what it meant to be a Great.

But a 19-yr old Messi was signed and delivered as the one to eclipse all the other greats.

Now that he's not being able to match the unholy targets you guys set for him yourselves, you expect those of who are fans of other greats and neutrals to give him a break?

WHY?

Shebi he can do everything? Let him playmake, pre-assist, assist, and score his way to a basic COPA America win. Don't tell us now that he's playing with a poor support cast. If he's supposed to be better than Maradona or CR7 he should be able to win with that poor support cast which curiously have an attack that has won everything there is to win in club football. How he intends to do it, we don't GAF! Just do it!

If Messi can't inspire Higuain or Aguero to a COPA Final win, I don't see how he'll be able to inspire an Eder or Guedes to a Euros win.

That's why we have been asking him to leave Catalonia. Because we know yes, he'd score goals, he'd dribble; but when the stakes are raised Oga will go missing and blame everyone even the pitch. And then even the small cover of Barcelona's system he's hiding under will blow out wide open with a stench like a blooming Rafflesia arnoldii flower.

-Lord

Kimbeast:
It takes some real mental gymnastics to try and act as if Ronaldo has had some legendary international career. Never have I watched him at an international tournament and thought this guy is one of the best of all time.

Kimbeast:

[s]
Argentina where trophyless for 30 years in both competitions Copa/world cup and then are suddenly playing 4 or 5 finals during the peak years of one player, yes, it's a massive improvement. if you're trophyless for 30 years and people still rate you as world class/tier 1 team despite beng nowhere for so long just because you have certain player, that's actually the biggest compliment you can give to Messi and the funny thing is, you aren't even aware of that.[/s]

ClintonNzedimma:

If you look at Messi and Ronaldo and still don't get that the Moral of the story is that Life is turn by turn, then you are in for a long thing

LordAdamX:


The issue is that some of the folks in your camp are still stuck in the past like Knicks fans.

Once upon a time, a cheap shot against Ronaldo when he still had just the one CL from his Manchester days was that he mostly only performed against small teams. After the 3-Peat, that's no longer the case.

Once upon a time, at Messi's peak the running bet was how soon he'd be able to eclipse Maradona; and since CR7 had just one Balon D'Or then and it didn't seem like the Messi-Iniesta-Xavi trident would slow anytime soon; Messi stans quickly elevated their MCM to GOAT status; conveniently disregarding CR7's outerworldly performances. Today after the 4-in-5 CL wins, Balon D'Or rack ups, NT glory, and age-agnostic performances, anyone who doesn't place CR7 in a top 3/5 GOAT list is either uninformed or mischievous.

Many Messi fans have their heads still stuck in 2010-2012. They'd rather our current timeline loops continuously over that three year period only. Today you have most people even Messi fans saying they'd rather have CR7 take a last minute spot kick or have him in their team. In 2011, many of the same folks didn't think he was worthy enough to step into the Barca first 11 despite being a Balon D'Or winner.

1. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown accustomed to seeing CR7 overperform in the last 5 years, while Messi has in the same time simply not lived up to the lofty ideals extoled by his proponents.
2. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that neutrals have grown used to seeing Messi dribbling and scoring in a Barca shirt. It looked nice and novel in 2010. Now it's same old, same old. Yes you can dribble, cutbacks seem to always find you, you can score 50 goals; but against elite competition in Europe or at the NT level; are you able to by grinta take the team past the finish line?
3. Many Messi fans don't want to accept that Messi isn't competing with legends, he is contending with other GOAT candidates. When your competition is CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, and Zidane; dribbling a mid-level table player worth 1/50th of your going price doesn't move the needle however eye-catching it appears to be. It's the legacy; the performances that make people go who else but him in situations where others fold and crumble under pressure.

Messi was "apparently" supposed to make Maradona look ordinary. And now he can't win a COPA. A f*cking Copa America, while playing for Argentina. Are you guys trying to say if you put either of CR7, Maradona, Pele, Cryuff, or Zidane in each of the four Argentine final team Messi has played in, they'd not win even one of the finals whether by hook or by crook? Or that Messi who goes missing in the knockout stages with Argentina of all countries would somehow excel in the Portugal team CR7 has won with or the Dutch team Cryuff had exploits with?

You guys need to look in the f*cking mirror and realize you guys oversold on Messi and he underdelivered! All the other GOAT candidates worked hard at their craft, paid their dues, and ascended to GOAT status by sheer will and immense resolve.

No one ever looked at a 19-yr old Zidane, CR7, Cryuff, or Maradona and went off with the idea that they'd be the yardstick for others to compare. Even Pele after his exploits in his first WC win wasn't touted because no one at the time expected or believed he could achieve what he eventually did. Yet later on he defined what it meant to be a Great.

But a 19-yr old Messi was signed and delivered as the one to eclipse all the other greats.

Now that he's not being able to match the unholy targets you guys set for him yourselves, you expect those of who are fans of other greats and neutrals to give him a break?

WHY?

Shebi he can do everything? Let him playmake, pre-assist, assist, and score his way to a basic COPA America win. Don't tell us now that he's playing with a poor support cast. If he's supposed to be better than Maradona or CR7 he should be able to win with that poor support cast which curiously have an attack that has won everything there is to win in club football. How he intends to do it, we don't GAF! Just do it!

If Messi can't inspire Higuain or Aguero to a COPA Final win, I don't see how he'll be able to inspire an Eder or Guedes to a Euros win.

That's why we have been asking him to leave Catalonia. Because we know yes, he'd score goals, he'd dribble; but when the stakes are raised Oga will go missing and blame everyone even the pitch. And then even the small cover of Barcelona's system he's hiding under will blow out wide open with a stench like a blooming Rafflesia arnoldii flower.

-Lord

Mcleo007:
[s]


Have you asked yourself why coaches or opposing teams rarely talk about stopping Penaldo? The reason is simple; stop the person (s) responsible for feeding him and he's off. Now, how do you consider someone who gets stopped by the mere fact of killing his supply source a greater player to someone who gets a cage built around him to render him quiet?

Penaldo played in 6 UCL finals and was unarguably ineffective in no less than 3 of them. He played 3 finals for his national team and was ineffective in all three. That is 9 finals which is one less as Messi with 8. While Penaldo won most of the finals with his team, he can't be said to be the reason they won.This brings me to my point that logically, it takes a team to win trophies. Messi could have won at least 2 of the finals being ineffective while his team mates made his absence count bailing him just as your man has enjoyed over the years.

In a nutshell, they're both great players. But the argument that one is a system player and a bottler only holds ground in the heart of clownish fans, especially Nigerians and EPL fans. And it's worse when you're both a Nigerian and supporter of the EPL. Illogical things find their way with those lot. [/s]

ClintonNzedimma:

[s]
Messi has never under delivered bro, Where was Ronaldo 2009-15? Answer the question, now Ronaldo is dominating, so we should forget Messi was once the Boss abi? Trust me Messi will win another UCL titles and, Ronaldo too.... who does it first, we don't know. Messi is better than Maradona, he doesn't need drug to perform. Concerning Messi inspiring his teammates, Messi is definitely not captain material I agree. This argument of him leaving Barca is just stupid, if he wins copa America next year , they will say he should still leave Barca. Can you name me one player that has Outshined Messi in Argentina in the past 10 years. While you Ronaldo fans has witnessed back to back UCL, I will witnessed 2 trebles. 91 goals a year and consecutive finals that he lost, even Buffon is still looking for UCL trophy.[/s]

LordAdamX:


So you're trying to tell me that in 2010, you Messi fans predicted Messi would not have won a national team trophy at the age of 33?

Or you don't know the meaning of underdelivered? Go use a dictionary. Come back when you have a concrete point to make.

-Lord

ClintonNzedimma:

Bros their career never end, in life you cannot have it all, Ronaldo has never won a treble, but Messi will never win a trophy for Argentina. I agree with you on that

LordAdamX:


How far up your a$$ do you have to be to say that Messi is better than CR7, Pele, or Maradona when he can't inspire a forward line comprising himself, Higuain, Di Maria, Aguero, and Lavezzi (and later Dybala) all proven winners and at their prime to an international trophy over several competitions.

FoolishBoy419:
Sometimes i qonder why people pay attention to that hate-filled punk that calls himself lordadamx . Soccer, no matter how you twist it, remains a game and there is no need to attach too much emotion to it. The way he hates Messi, one would think Messi raped or killed someone very dear to him.

I am a Man United fan and Messi, though not my favourite player, is the best in the world and way better than Ronaldo. Anyone that watches both players objectively would agree with me on this. Ronaldo has the trophies (being carried), Messi has the individual performances (MOM, POT, etc). End of discussion