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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by 36STATES: 1:39pm On Aug 15, 2021
You really don't have any shame, so ready to post deceitful reports just to justify your misogyny. None of what you provided has anything to do with feminism. I have opened every single one of them and no mention of what your are claiming.

JESHAL:



Note before Feminism children out of wedlock was unpopular untill after where welfare systems was created to support them and it became norms
For single motherhood;
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%25202020%2520U.S.%2520Census,were%2520headed%2520by%2520single%2520mothers.%26text%3DOf%2520all%2520single%252Dparent%2520families,were%2520born%2520to%2520unwed%2520mothers.&ved=2ahUKEwjT_4WB6bLyAhXkzoUKHalmBfwQFnoECAMQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0zVmoWHGqjgqVo86vLVHEj



For declining birth rates
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/births.htm&ved=2ahUKEwjMpsXs6bLyAhXlzoUKHdDKAPwQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0YVtXu3Tl8sHtdY6RHKMIG&cshid=1629023650174

For declining marital rates
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.statista.com/statistics/195951/marriage-rate-in-the-united-states-since-1990/%23:~:text%3DUSA%2520%252D%2520Marriage%2520rate%25201990%252D2019%26text%3DIn%25202019%252C%2520the%2520marriage%2520rate,9.8%2520marriages%2520per%25201%252C000%2520people.&ved=2ahUKEwjatIei6rLyAhVKqxoKHUrEAT8QFnoECAMQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1pdY6O3omhWOsSlcaoQ7uh



For divorce rates at 50% and 70% initiated by women

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/%23:~:text%3DAlmost%252050%2520percent%2520of%2520all,first%2520marriages%2520end%2520in%2520divorce.&ved=2ahUKEwjotZnT6rLyAhUxzIUKHVR2BSkQFnoECAMQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3GX_-x5kZaQ235KfWMfJYK&cshid=1629023842827


Abortion is legalized and babies killed everyday
Most Alimonies are paid from men to women
Most child support is paid from the man to the woman
Most women get full child custody

statistics and studies are undebatable and are facts , links scattered to see the reality of western civilization
We have affirmative actions and Quota policies for women also


Note; all these statistics are for western Societies that have fully embraced Feminism, and after all these data, you still see the relevance of Feminism, then I know you are ideologically bound to it's dogma rather than operating with objectivity in reality and want to follow the Narratives of Egalitarianistic-Equalism ideology seeking social justice via delusions like gender is a social construct



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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Justpassingby45(m): 1:45pm On Aug 15, 2021
You are talking Rubbish
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
socialmediaman:


I didn't say a home was not an equal partnership. That's where many people get it wrong. A home is an equal partnership but someone has to be the leader. Google was owned 50% each by Larry Page and Sergey but someone has to be the CEO. Someone has to play that role. In the home, it's the husband's role, it's a God given role. That's why a woman should not marry someone who cannot play that role in her home.
saying a man should be equal with a woman in marriage is same as equating the loin and the antelope

The man is the head of the home like the president is the head of the nation

Any woman who doesn't like that should stay off mariage

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ramatintin(m): 1:51pm On Aug 15, 2021
Right from creation the woman is an inferior creation to man.
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



They were both created equally remember, until God cursed women to be under men's authority

Don't seek plausible deniability, take responsibility for the mistake you made and bear the consequences of your actions
they were not created equally one was created to dominate while the other was made to support ( reference from the bible

And God it's not good that the man be alone therefore I would me him a[b] helpmate [/b]
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:59pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



I take full responsibility but I'm saying in the garden of Eden they were both equals, if Adam was superior that nonsense probably would not have happened, regardless he chose to follow his wife and disobey, it's his fault
the woman was made for the man not the other way round
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Aug 15, 2021
CHoccolaTE:



I will never understand the love you males have for blaming women for everything.

So because women control access to sex, it now means men cannot lie and pretend to get sex then abandon their children and mother to keep sleeping around? You are just hell bent on blaming feminism for single parenthood and male crimes.

1. Bad governance and corruption is the reason why Nigeria is backward.

2. Males in general are naturally more promiscuous that is why they run from marriage and family in the US, because they want to keep sleeping around and their society is not traditional or religious so nobody attacks them for it unlike in some African countries.

3. Racism is the reason why more black males are imprisoned, not single parenthood. Blacks are just roughly 15% of the population in USA but make up almost 40% of inmates in prison. Many cops have been exposed as racist and biased against black people.

4. Those UAE countries you listed are oil rich countries that is why they thrive. Its not because of patriarchy.




Do you know how many men that are sexually active ? Why is pornography, onlyfans, PuA community, online seduction forums,masturbation, online incel , olosho, prostitution popular, it's because men want sex and they are not getting it, sex is very scarce no matter how the popular culture want to proof otherwise by the mordern hookup culture myth of all men fvcking around with women when many find it difficult and it has been that way since history , only 1/3 of men are reproductively successful through out history, these shows women are very selective when it comes to sex and reproduction, my issue is why would you have risky unprotected sex in the first place with anyone when you don't have the stability of a marriage which is the best institution to raise children, don't women care about their children well-being in intact family units

My argument is that before the success of Feminism divorce was rare, marital institution was sacred and children out of wedlock was unpopular, shifting from political conservativism to radicalized liberalism via Feminism destroyed homes, reduced birth rates and marital rates

During segregation and racism, divorce and single motherhood was rare in the black community until the introduction of welfare system where women abandoned their men for these packages

Single motherhood households is in all races generally not just in the black communities face problems of prisoners , criminals and suicide victims, violent shooters

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 2:00pm On Aug 15, 2021
I wish these Nigerian feminist's would answer hard questions about what empowerment, equality, and freedom really mean.

Any intelligent feminist can take this question relating specifically to Nigeria.

I don't want to hear about the west..

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by BRATISLAVA: 2:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
Nice to see the people who use more than one account on the same thread.

If men want feminism to end, they have to end male sexism and other undesirable attitudes.

Rather than acknowledge that, men are fighting to continue as they are. They've used the Bible and biology to try and justify their "superiority", to try and bend women to their will, yet it won't stick. Misogyny breeds feminism. If you don't want feminists then stop misogyny. Unfortunately, many men who are beneficiaries of male privilege will argue blindly for the next decade because they are scared to lose undue benefits. Begin to scrutinize your actions, words towards women and you will see where feminism comes from.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 10 years in Nigeria. Maybe men will embrace homosexuality to cope with the fall out. Or maybe they will be backing up their female children with feminism hypocritically.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:09pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:
Nice to see the people who use more than one account on the same thread.

If men want feminism to end, they have to end male sexism and other undesirable attitudes.

Rather than acknowledge that, men are fighting to continue as they are. They've used the Bible and biology to try and justify their "superiority", to try and bend women to their will, yet it won't stick. Misogyny breeds feminism. If you don't want feminists then stop misogyny. Unfortunately, many men who are beneficiaries of male privilege will argue blindly for the next decade because they are scared to lose undue benefits. Begin to scrutinize your actions, words towards women and you will see where feminism comes from.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 10 years in Nigeria. Maybe men will embrace homosexuality to cope with the fall out. Or maybe they will be backing up their female children with feminism hypocritically.




What the hell is male privilege?
Aren't women giving equal opportunities like educational, labor and voting rights and privileges like men
What does Feminism want?
Can't you see that your ideology has been successful already

Except you have dubious intentions

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:12pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
they were not created equally one was created to dominate while the other was made to support ( reference from the bible

And God it's not good that the man be alone therefore I would me him a[b] helpmate [/b]


Remember after the fall, God had to curse Eve to be under Adams authority,
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by henryobinna(m): 2:15pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:
Righteousness

Feminism isn't evil. It is like white people saying racial equality is evil.

And if they are both evil, why have pastors neglected talking about the large number of men who use masochist cults like the incels, red pill and men going their own way to demean, oppress and abuse women? These are rebellious male cults and pastors need to talk about them more than the attention they give anything to do with women.

Or maybe they are quiet about them because they support and believe those evils as men.

If men treated women well, there would be no feminism. The root cause needs exposing and treatment. Not hiding from it. Because we don't want to compare it, we end up allowing a greater evil to fester.

Check the news on what sexism/masochism has caused. Recently a young man shot to death several people including his own mother because in his male cult they all hate women and down grade feminists. They believe they are superior and women owe them preference.

In African homes, they go to church to fight feminism and return home to beat and oppress their wives because of what? Is that living as God wanted it?

so men deciding to go their own way and those who decide to enlighten themselves about the tricks females use to take advantage of them, is evil and demonic.

The Bible tells you in all your gettings get wisdom, but it appears you've decide to dwell and permanently wallow in ignorance that is why anything you don't understand or have poor knowledge of is evil to you. I feel pity for the kids that'd grow under your guidance. May God help such children.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:16pm On Aug 15, 2021
36STATES:

You really don't have any shame, so ready to post deceitful reports just to justify your misogyny. None of what you provided has anything to do with feminism. I have opened every single one of them and no mention of what your are claiming.



Before Feminism, conservativism was the predominant ideology and family values were sacred, marriage was a valued institution, after Feminism single motherhood has become common, divorce normalized, that's a fact because the laws changed and welfare systems to allow these Nonsense, I have no problem with EQUALITY of opportunities in all aspects regardless of the gender the issue I have is when you want equality of outcomes by claiming victimhood status and demanding affirmative actions and quota policies, seeking different standards to get ahead

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Suzanne99: 2:19pm On Aug 15, 2021
Sexism is bad.

There is nothing wrong with feminism.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:20pm On Aug 15, 2021
Suzanne99:
Sexism is bad.

There is nothing wrong with feminism.


Reality is SEXIST
Feminism is Misandrist that's why it's unpopular

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 2:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



Remember after the fall, God had to curse Eve to be under Adams authority,
Adam was the main deal Eve was introduced to curb his loneliness

"And God said it's not good for man to lonely I would make him a helpmate gen 2:18
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by henryobinna(m): 2:22pm On Aug 15, 2021
Martinez39s:
Feminism = Sexism and misandry.
it's unfortunate that the OP and some useful idiots fail to see it.
It's either they don't know what sexism is or they're just plain stupid.

Life is sexist for the most part, it's almost like racism.

Sexism is much more pronounced. It is only bad when it favors women and not men. They think sexism is the opposite of feminism, this in itself is blatant stupidity.

Treating people(irrespective of their sex) differently based on their sex/gender is sexism. For example, I've never seen people advocating for the sexism that exists the military to be ended, the sexism that demands men be shipped to war front to go die like chicken. In most countries, men are even forcefully drafted to go die.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
Adam was the main deal Eve was introduced to curb his loneliness

"And God said it's not good for man to lonely I would make him a helpmate


They were equal partners, Eve was designed to support Adam not submit to his authority that's why she took the unilateral decision to eat that apple

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by BRATISLAVA: 2:24pm On Aug 15, 2021
henryobinna:
so men deciding to go their own way and those who decide to enlighten themselves about the tricks females use to take advantage of them, is evil and demonic.

The Bible tells you in all your gettings get wisdom, but it appears you've decide to dwell and permanently wallow in ignorance that is why anything you don't understand or have poor knowledge of is evil to you. I feel pity for the kids that'd grow under your guidance. May God help such children.

I feel more sorry for any women or children under your guidance. Imagine an adult talking about tricks of women. Only a weak man believes the demonic irresponsible message of trp and mgtow, two creations of bitter white men on the internet. What would you have to offer any woman or child except hate and demonic input?

Wisdom demands sense and thinking before speaking, but you have neither of those nor the principal thing. You've dwelled so long in sexist pretence of wisdom that when you drop posts it highlights your very lack of it from your words.

It's attitudes like yours that breed feminism. And if you quote, it won't be read or responded to. Tough luck.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by KaideeGee(m): 2:29pm On Aug 15, 2021
I thought sexism is discrimination based on gender?

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:31pm On Aug 15, 2021
KaideeGee:
I thought sexism is discrimination based on gender?


Reality is AMORAL and SEXIST
Double standards for both genders
Feminism want to change the ones that don't favor them and don't care about that of the men
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by henryobinna(m): 2:32pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


I feel more sorry for any women or children under your guidance. Imagine an adult talking about tricks of women. Only a weak man believes the demonic irresponsible message of trp and mgtow, two creations of bitter white men on the internet. What would you have to offer any woman or child except hate and demonic input?

Wisdom demands sense and thinking before speaking, but you have neither of those nor the principal thing. You've dwelled so long in sexist pretence of wisdom that when you drop posts it highlights your very lack of it from your words.

It's attitudes like yours that breed feminism. And if you quote, it won't be read or responded to.
it's only a fool that doesn't know a lot of women could be deceptive but it's okay believe what you want, am not here to convince you. Just don't drag innocent kids into a life of perpetual ignorance. Even women themselves would admit and tell you, but you here is proving to the whole world what you are.

So, if a bunch of white men are angry because of what they've suffered in the hands of their wives, is their pains invalid because they're white? That shows how racist you are. A racist is not in any position to discuss topics like these because they have much bigger issue.

By the way, throwing the words 'evil', 'demonic' around does not give validity to whatever nonsense you have to say, you might as well drop them aside and pass more coherent messages than the usual blackmailing tactics your pastors have used to keep you in check.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:33pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


I feel more sorry for any women or children under your guidance. Imagine an adult talking about tricks of women. Only a weak man believes the demonic irresponsible message of trp and mgtow, two creations of bitter white men on the internet. What would you have to offer any woman or child except hate and demonic input?

Wisdom demands sense and thinking before speaking, but you have neither of those nor the principal thing. You've dwelled so long in sexist pretence of wisdom that when you drop posts it highlights your very lack of it from your words.

It's attitudes like yours that breed feminism. And if you quote, it won't be read or responded to. Tough luck.


Ranting Man hating, shaming and demonizing comments, very Misandristic and radicalized Feminist ready to even use legal powers to crush men

Wicked and heartless set of people

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 2:34pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



They were equal partners, Eve was designed to support Adam not submit to his authority that's why she took the unilateral decision to eat that apple
she did that cause she was rebellious not cause she had equal authority the very reason the serpent choose to tempt her was cos she already had that greed for power(thus the saying daughters of eve)

The woman was made for the man and because of the man( was made to satisfy a need -the man's loneliness

The woman was taken from the man

The man named the woman like he did everything he was given Dominion over

The man named every creature before the woman was made

Even Jesus said greater is he that giveth (the man in this case cos he gave a rib) than he that receiveth

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:38pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
she did that cause she was rebellious not cause she had equal authority the very reason the serpent choose to tempt her was cos she already had that greed for power(thus the saying daughters of eve)

The woman was made for the man and because of the man( was made to satisfy a need -the man's loneliness

The woman was taken from the man

The man named the woman like he did everything he was given Dominion over

The man named every creature before the woman was made

Even Jesus said greater is he that giveth (the man in this case cos he gave a rib) than he that receiveth


If he was truly equal women would not be cursed to be under their husbands authority- Gen1:27; So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 2:39pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:





Do you know how many men that are sexually active ? Why is pornography, onlyfans, PuA community, online seduction forums,masturbation, online incel , olosho, prostitution popular, it's because men want sex and they are not getting it, sex is very scarce no matter how the popular culture want to proof otherwise by the mordern hookup culture myth of all men fvcking around with women when many find it difficult and it has been that way since history , only 1/3 of men are reproductively successful through out history, these shows women are very selective when it comes to sex and reproduction, my issue is why would you have risky unprotected sex in the first place with anyone when you don't have the stability of a marriage which is the best institution to raise children, don't women care about their children well-being in intact family units

My argument is that before the success of Feminism divorce was rare, marital institution was sacred and children out of wedlock was unpopular, shifting from political conservativism to radicalized liberalism via Feminism destroyed homes, reduced birth rates and marital rates

During segregation and racism, divorce and single motherhood was rare in the black community until the introduction of welfare system where women abandoned their men for these packages

Single motherhood households is in all races generally not just in the black communities face problems of prisoners , criminals and suicide victims, violent shooters

Just brilliant.

Feminism under liberalism screwed black women who thought they were screwing black men, which screwed black families, hence the chaos.

I should remind you, when they say racism screwed the black American family, show them the black on black stats against racist incidents, black's kill themselves more than racism does.

Great stuff all together buddy.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Loandbehold: 2:41pm On Aug 15, 2021
NwadykExcel:


This feels true.
In the Catholic Church, women can't perform mass.
It'd be nice to know why.
Some of you stop thinking with your heads in order to push your agenda. Every religion has its tenets. In most religions, men are leaders and women are helpers. So, by that very fact, the Priests lead mass. There's absolutely nothing wrong there and if you don't agree with the faith, you are free to not be a Catholic/Christian. You can have whatever agenda you want but don't expect others to bend to your will. No one can alter the doctrines of their faith, if they do, then it's no longer the same faith. Leave religion alone, most of you guys aren't even religious, so why the noise about the church?

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



If he was truly equal women would not be cursed to be under their husbands authority- Gen1:27; So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
the woman was not made until gen 2:21

That may be a mis translation
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
the woman was not made until gen 2:21

That may be a mis translation

Then what about the curse, why another authority when he already had authority??
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 2:50pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



If he was truly equal women would not be cursed to be under their husbands authority- Gen1:27; So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
if they were truly equal why did God call Adam first after they sinned (parents tend to call their first born when they return from a journey) definitely as a Nigerian you can relate

Why was Adam created first

Why did Adam name her like he did the animals
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Palazee(m): 2:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
SIMPS thread

Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Hassanmaye(m): 2:55pm On Aug 15, 2021
JosephXavier:
OP I don't know how you managed to think through this sh*t and was convinced enough to bring this online

I read just two paragraphs and I went back to check the gender and was surprised to see that it was from a male Nairalander, perhaps you might even be a simp

How will say that before a woman is born that she already faces discrimination

First of all, check the chances of getting a job after going to school and you'll see that women are more favoured

In an average Nigerian home, you'll see brothers working to earn a living decently but their sisters who might be earning less have more material things to show and flaunt as if they even earn higher than their brother. Now tell me how they're disadvantaged

You pick a quarrel with woman, whether you're right or wrong, the next thing you'll hear is "don't you know she's a woman? "

How many women are suffering from police brutality

Wow bitter truth but they will never believe o, most women enjoyed simping by men now that men are wising up tit for tat they are crying, they always think they deserve anything because they have a wound on their thigh

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