JosephXavier: OP I don't know how you managed to think through this sh*t and was convinced enough to bring this online
I read just two paragraphs and I went back to check the gender and was surprised to see that it was from a male Nairalander, perhaps you might even be a simp
How will say that before a woman is born that she already faces discrimination
First of all, check the chances of getting a job after going to school and you'll see that women are more favoured
In an average Nigerian home, you'll see brothers working to earn a living decently but their sisters who might be earning less have more material things to show and flaunt as if they even earn higher than their brother. Now tell me how they're disadvantaged
You pick a quarrel with woman, whether you're right or wrong, the next thing you'll hear is "don't you know she's a woman? "
How many women are suf fering from police brutality
Kondomatic: That's because you've no idea what you're saying.
Feminism is sexism...... Don't argue this. Feminism started with a noble purpose but what we have now is a female Supremacy Movement that's being championed by "lazybians" and misandrists.
Let's start with the word itself, "feminism"? Just like racism which is a belief that one's race is superior than the other, feminism ageism, classism and some other unnecessary isms out there are based on domination.
There's no feminist out there who isn't a sexist... The only problem is that feminism even divides women but let's stick to the topic.
There's no point comparing sexism with feminism because the duo are inextricably intertwined.Madness. The boy child also faces the same rejection when a woman has had two boys without a girl. Who put you up to write this rubbish this morning?
A male child is treated like king?
Show a female almajiri and I will apologize for everything I have said so far.
Show me underaged female shoe maker/shiner. Show me underaged female mechanic, vulcanizer, carpenter, conductor etc and I will agree that the boy child is king.
In a family, the girl child is untouchable. If a boy going to a boarding school or a boy in the university receives N20k from his parents, his twin sister will receive N60k.
This is known.
Boys are forced to fend for themselves at a very early age. Women are more in schools than men, why? Because the boys are out doing apprentice for one oga or the other. Wow another bitter truth, like I said women enjoy simping Now that men are wising up, they feel threatened, no more free money until you give something in return I have no energy left in me to reply to this unnecessary rubbish this morning.
Then what about the curse, why another authority when he already had authority??
because her disobedience was as a result of rebilion *Satan only exploited what she was thinking
So God was making firm the condition of things
It's like when you find your kids are arguing over supremacy and you make firm who is older
Note I used the word argue cos that's what led to her disobedience Gen 3:6 and when the woman saw that the tree was good for food ....and a tree to make one wise (she already had an obsession for power) and rebellion for the man's rule
if your job was to help reduce stress load for the manager of a company would you call yourself the manager or say you are equals
For me, it's clearly sexism, because it's discriminatory and has led to the abuse of most women and also much domestic violence against them.
Even before a woman is born into the world, and still in the womb, she already faces discrimination and rejection from men and also some of her fellow women, like her inlaws, when they get to know find out that she's a girl not a boy as most of them desired her to be.
A girl child is more or less being treated as a second class citizen, with no rights or real value just for being female, while a male child is usually treated as a king and being accorded with much respect just because of his sex.
What a woman goes through in this world just because she's not male is better imagined than experienced.
Men still crucify and blame the woman for all their woes just as Adam did, because of mistake she made in the beginning, as if Adam was a nursing baby that was forced to eat the forbidden fruit. But even nursing babies are able to reject food they don't want.
She was punished for her sins, and that has resulted in a lot of suffering and bondage on her part, but the coming and death of Jesus was meant to also change that and redeem the woman from her sin and its consequences. However that seems not enough for men who want to still keep her in perpetual bondage forever, as they seem to still hold that grudge against her and haven't forgiven her yet.
This include many so-called Christians and church leaders who claim to be of God, yet were still doing everything possible to keep the woman under the bondage and curse of her sins, such as that which was broken by Jesus. But the church ought to be different from the world, and reflect the changes Jesus had made with respect to the redemption of the woman through His death, however they're not much different in the respect of the mistreatment of women, thereby making the efforts of Christ to redeem her to be of none effect in the church.
It baffles me the extent to which many so-called Christian men have no regard for the woman.
They still blame her for every mistake they make, as though, regardless of what she tempts them with, they cannot reject her temptations, and say "NO", as some men have proven to be possible in the Bible which they claim to be the Word of God, like Joseph the son of Jacob in the respect of Portiphar's wife.
They behave like the sexist' Pharisees, who brought only a woman to Jesus and said she was caught in the act of adultery, but couldn't see the blunder in that, as a woman cannot be caught in the act of adultery alone and without a man. John 8:3-5
Hence their sexism and hypocrisy was already clear to Jesus, prompting Him to ask anyone of them who had no sin to cast the first stone, because only leaving out the supposed man caught in act of adultery with her and bringing her alone was a sin in itself, since the Law they tried to use to justify their actions actually commanded that both the man and woman caught in the act to be stoned to death, not just the woman. John 8:6-7
That's the same way most Christian men, including church leaders, behave. For instance, you'd hear them speak constantly and consistently against feminism, but hardly mention anything about sexism which is much more evil and has done more damage to the church and Christian marriages as a whole, than anything feminism ever could.
Women are being mistreated and beaten by many of their Christian husbands among other things, but because of the sexist' mindset and manners of most churches, the men yet feel justified and encouraged to continue with such evils, as they're given the impression that they have all the right to do whatever they liked, while the woman has none and ought not to question them, because as the saying goes, "women ought to submit to their husbands!"
Such oppression is what actually leads to fights for freedom, just it is with racism, so I wouldn't be surprised that feminism in the church is actually a product of sexism in it, as it's one way women are trying to stand up for their rights and saying "enough is enough' for the mistreatment and abuses they've suffered as a result of sexism in the church.
So whatever it is about, it's wouldn't be intended to discriminate against the men or oppress them as sexism is, but to defend themselves and curtail the prejudices they suffer as a result of just being female.
The woman however is not absolved of all blame for her sufferings, because she's also responsible for some of them, and she would be punished for it as the woman, Eve, was in the beginning. But that doesn't mean that any woman who decides to do what's right, should still be punished and kept in perpetual bondage for the sins of another woman, even though she's been set free from it, just because she is a woman.
Jesus said that only one thing is needful, and that the woman who had chosen not to follow Eve's example, but to do things right instead, and place the Word of God above everything else, including men, had chosen that right part, which no one could take away from her. John 10:42
So if the church likes, they should continue being sexist towards the women, but according to this Jesus' saying, once a woman has chosen that right part of God's Word and placed it above everything else in her life, including men, there's nothing they can do to take away that part from her, because that's all a woman needs.
God bless.
They are both one and the same thing. Each sex needs to understand his or her God given role. The man is the head and the woman is a help to the man. Also in the church, the man is head and the women again help and assist
For me, it's clearly sexism, because it's discriminatory and has led to the abuse of most women and also much domestic violence against them.
Even before a woman is born into the world, and still in the womb, she already faces discrimination and rejection from men and also some of her fellow women, like her inlaws, when they get to know find out that she's a girl not a boy as most of them desired her to be.
A girl child is more or less being treated as a second class citizen, with no rights or real value just for being female, while a male child is usually treated as a king and being accorded with much respect just because of his sex.
What a woman goes through in this world just because she's not male is better imagined than experienced.
Men still crucify and blame the woman for all their woes just as Adam did, because of mistake she made in the beginning, as if Adam was a nursing baby that was forced to eat the forbidden fruit. But even nursing babies are able to reject food they don't want.
She was punished for her sins, and that has resulted in a lot of suffering and bondage on her part, but the coming and death of Jesus was meant to also change that and redeem the woman from her sin and its consequences. However that seems not enough for men who want to still keep her in perpetual bondage forever, as they seem to still hold that grudge against her and haven't forgiven her yet.
This include many so-called Christians and church leaders who claim to be of God, yet were still doing everything possible to keep the woman under the bondage and curse of her sins, such as that which was broken by Jesus. But the church ought to be different from the world, and reflect the changes Jesus had made with respect to the redemption of the woman through His death, however they're not much different in the respect of the mistreatment of women, thereby making the efforts of Christ to redeem her to be of none effect in the church.
It baffles me the extent to which many so-called Christian men have no regard for the woman.
They still blame her for every mistake they make, as though, regardless of what she tempts them with, they cannot reject her temptations, and say "NO", as some men have proven to be possible in the Bible which they claim to be the Word of God, like Joseph the son of Jacob in the respect of Portiphar's wife.
They behave like the sexist' Pharisees, who brought only a woman to Jesus and said she was caught in the act of adultery, but couldn't see the blunder in that, as a woman cannot be caught in the act of adultery alone and without a man. John 8:3-5
Hence their sexism and hypocrisy was already clear to Jesus, prompting Him to ask anyone of them who had no sin to cast the first stone, because only leaving out the supposed man caught in act of adultery with her and bringing her alone was a sin in itself, since the Law they tried to use to justify their actions actually commanded that both the man and woman caught in the act to be stoned to death, not just the woman. John 8:6-7
That's the same way most Christian men, including church leaders, behave. For instance, you'd hear them speak constantly and consistently against feminism, but hardly mention anything about sexism which is much more evil and has done more damage to the church and Christian marriages as a whole, than anything feminism ever could.
Women are being mistreated and beaten by many of their Christian husbands among other things, but because of the sexist' mindset and manners of most churches, the men yet feel justified and encouraged to continue with such evils, as they're given the impression that they have all the right to do whatever they liked, while the woman has none and ought not to question them, because as the saying goes, "women ought to submit to their husbands!"
Such oppression is what actually leads to fights for freedom, just it is with racism, so I wouldn't be surprised that feminism in the church is actually a product of sexism in it, as it's one way women are trying to stand up for their rights and saying "enough is enough' for the mistreatment and abuses they've suffered as a result of sexism in the church.
So whatever it is about, it's wouldn't be intended to discriminate against the men or oppress them as sexism is, but to defend themselves and curtail the prejudices they suffer as a result of just being female.
The woman however is not absolved of all blame for her sufferings, because she's also responsible for some of them, and she would be punished for it as the woman, Eve, was in the beginning. But that doesn't mean that any woman who decides to do what's right, should still be punished and kept in perpetual bondage for the sins of another woman, even though she's been set free from it, just because she is a woman.
Jesus said that only one thing is needful, and that the woman who had chosen not to follow Eve's example, but to do things right instead, and place the Word of God above everything else, including men, had chosen that right part, which no one could take away from her. John 10:42
So if the church likes, they should continue being sexist towards the women, but according to this Jesus' saying, once a woman has chosen that right part of God's Word and placed it above everything else in her life, including men, there's nothing they can do to take away that part from her, because that's all a woman needs.
God bless.
Thunda Faya You OP.. You just woke up and start writing trash..
For me, it's clearly sexism, because it's discriminatory and has led to the abuse of most women and also much domestic violence against them.
Even before a woman is born into the world, and still in the womb, she already faces discrimination and rejection from men and also some of her fellow women, like her inlaws, when they get to know find out that she's a girl not a boy as most of them desired her to be.
A girl child is more or less being treated as a second class citizen, with no rights or real value just for being female, while a male child is usually treated as a king and being accorded with much respect just because of his sex.
What a woman goes through in this world just because she's not male is better imagined than experienced.
Men still crucify and blame the woman for all their woes just as Adam did, because of mistake she made in the beginning, as if Adam was a nursing baby that was forced to eat the forbidden fruit. But even nursing babies are able to reject food they don't want.
She was punished for her sins, and that has resulted in a lot of suffering and bondage on her part, but the coming and death of Jesus was meant to also change that and redeem the woman from her sin and its consequences. However that seems not enough for men who want to still keep her in perpetual bondage forever, as they seem to still hold that grudge against her and haven't forgiven her yet.
This include many so-called Christians and church leaders who claim to be of God, yet were still doing everything possible to keep the woman under the bondage and curse of her sins, such as that which was broken by Jesus. But the church ought to be different from the world, and reflect the changes Jesus had made with respect to the redemption of the woman through His death, however they're not much different in the respect of the mistreatment of women, thereby making the efforts of Christ to redeem her to be of none effect in the church.
It baffles me the extent to which many so-called Christian men have no regard for the woman.
They still blame her for every mistake they make, as though, regardless of what she tempts them with, they cannot reject her temptations, and say "NO", as some men have proven to be possible in the Bible which they claim to be the Word of God, like Joseph the son of Jacob in the respect of Portiphar's wife.
They behave like the sexist' Pharisees, who brought only a woman to Jesus and said she was caught in the act of adultery, but couldn't see the blunder in that, as a woman cannot be caught in the act of adultery alone and without a man. John 8:3-5
Hence their sexism and hypocrisy was already clear to Jesus, prompting Him to ask anyone of them who had no sin to cast the first stone, because only leaving out the supposed man caught in act of adultery with her and bringing her alone was a sin in itself, since the Law they tried to use to justify their actions actually commanded that both the man and woman caught in the act to be stoned to death, not just the woman. John 8:6-7
That's the same way most Christian men, including church leaders, behave. For instance, you'd hear them speak constantly and consistently against feminism, but hardly mention anything about sexism which is much more evil and has done more damage to the church and Christian marriages as a whole, than anything feminism ever could.
Women are being mistreated and beaten by many of their Christian husbands among other things, but because of the sexist' mindset and manners of most churches, the men yet feel justified and encouraged to continue with such evils, as they're given the impression that they have all the right to do whatever they liked, while the woman has none and ought not to question them, because as the saying goes, "women ought to submit to their husbands!"
Such oppression is what actually leads to fights for freedom, just it is with racism, so I wouldn't be surprised that feminism in the church is actually a product of sexism in it, as it's one way women are trying to stand up for their rights and saying "enough is enough' for the mistreatment and abuses they've suffered as a result of sexism in the church.
So whatever it is about, it's wouldn't be intended to discriminate against the men or oppress them as sexism is, but to defend themselves and curtail the prejudices they suffer as a result of just being female.
The woman however is not absolved of all blame for her sufferings, because she's also responsible for some of them, and she would be punished for it as the woman, Eve, was in the beginning. But that doesn't mean that any woman who decides to do what's right, should still be punished and kept in perpetual bondage for the sins of another woman, even though she's been set free from it, just because she is a woman.
Jesus said that only one thing is needful, and that the woman who had chosen not to follow Eve's example, but to do things right instead, and place the Word of God above everything else, including men, had chosen that right part, which no one could take away from her. John 10:42
So if the church likes, they should continue being sexist towards the women, but according to this Jesus' saying, once a woman has chosen that right part of God's Word and placed it above everything else in her life, including men, there's nothing they can do to take away that part from her, because that's all a woman needs.
God bless.
Life is sexist .. privilege is invisible to those that have it..both men and women have benefitted from sexism .. the only tym men or women complain about sexism is when it doesn't favor them
Kondomatic: That's because you've no idea what you're saying. Feminism is sexism...... Don't argue this. Feminism started with a noble purpose but what we have now is a female Supremacy Movement that's being championed by "lazybians" and misandrists.
Your subjective opinion. Mention 5 popular 'feminists champions' in Nigeria who are lesbians/lazy and hate men. Specific examples of how they hate men or its your interpretation of their actions/words as hate? How many feminists kill men, let's start with that? What's the effect and objective impact of this misandry you talk about? You've experienced it in real life? Some women cussing at you is misandry and you actually want to compare that to misogyny? Seriously?? Feminism ain't sexism. Feminism ain't misandry. I don't care for whatever you choose to say about what you're misinterpreting as feminism. Feminism was and still is and will always be a movement for the cause of women. Woman-centred. Aimed at liberating women from patriarchal shackles. The very fact that things are different for some women now and that we're no more the way we were, etc., is a pointer to the cause. If you want me to go into highlighting the wins of feminism and its current winnings and impact, as at present, I have all day. That you choose to focus on the "bads," "negatives" or things you deemed as such doesn't detract from the purpose of the movement. We have anti-feminist women, we have a lot of women that have been conditioned mentally, spanning years even though their economic position has been visibly improved. And you expect feminism to record over-night success? Maybe feminists might not be the ideal fighters you want, but if you know what they are doing wrong and how they should go about their activism, if you focused your time speaking on the right things, to help the girl child cause, you'll leave the "unpleasant elements" alone. But the latter always seem to be much of what y'all do.
Let's start with the word itself, "feminism"? Just like racism which is a belief that one's race is superior than the other, feminism ageism, classism and some other unnecessary isms out there are based on domination.
Is humanism, equalism, mysticism, colloqualism, transgenderism, shamanism, expressionism, impressionism, idealism, realism and all other principles, causes and ideological frameworks that falls under the '-ism' umbrella a means of domination as well? Atheism? Or agnosticism?? An -ism could as well be an outlook. Or a phenomena. And that outlook can be positive or negative. To pick the negative definition of 'ism' and the negative ones to cast as its general definition is dishonest. Feminism, in this case, falls on the positive side based on its definition. Any other deviation from that is not feminism, even if it is passed across as feminism.
There's no feminist out there who isn't a sexist... The only problem is that feminism even divides women but let's stick to the topic.
All your words and opinions again. Still mean nothing. Reversed sexism isn't a thing. Sexism, contextually, socially, historically, etc., has always been a discriminatory treatment of women by men. Stating what men do, as feminists do, isn't sexism. Yes, feminists can make biased or generalized or prejudiced statements about men some times, but it doesn't make them sexist. Or will you perhaps bring examples of such sexism/sexist utterances by feminists and let's see? If feminists are inherently sexist, then bring common, popular statements they make and let's see. "Men are scum" is ONE OF the things some feminists say, and that alone is not enough to cast all feminists as being sexists. Not all feminists say things like that. If you want me to go into details of the very feministic, empowering, unbiased, etc., things feminists do around the world, from Sri Lanka to Cambodia to Rwanda to Denmark, I can. You can verify it. Choosing to be blind to this again doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
There's no point comparing sexism with feminism because the duo are inextricably intertwined. Madness. The boy child also faces the same rejection when a woman has had two boys without a girl.
Are you kidneyingggg me?? ?? ?? ?? Where? Where does this happen that a boy child faces rejection, when they are two born to a woman, what?? You seriously want to compared what women who don't have male sons have faced to women who don't?
Who put you up to write this rubbish this morning? A male child is treated like king? Show a female almajiri and I will apologize for everything I have said so far. Show me underaged female shoe maker/shiner. Show me underaged female mechanic, vulcanizer, carpenter, conductor etc and I will agree that the boy child is king. In a family, the girl child is untouchable. If a boy going to a boarding school or a boy in the university receives N20k from his parents, his twin sister will receive N60k. This is known.
All these happen in how many cases/instances? All of these things you termed "disadvantages" to the boy child, are privileges ascribed to him, though wrongly in the form of child labour. That women aren't being vulcanizers and conductors and drivers and construction workers, as a norm, is evidence of the discrimination against them. There are constitutional laws that prevent women from going into the male-dominated fields you have in mind and societal sanctions and biases that keep them in place. Yes, they can simply go against it, but it doesn't mean those (subconscious) factors are not at play objectively. Your words are neither authority nor facts on what the girl child faces. Whatever happens with the boy child does not invalidate the experiences of the girl child; the examples you've given do not disprove that the girl child is discriminated against, and at a rate higher than the boy child, and it doesn't disprove that she experiences some things by virtue of simply being a girl. Assumptions are made about both boys and girls and they are socialized along binary lines. While the girl is believed to be weak thereby having less value ascribed to her, boys are believed to be strong, which could be harmful to them as well. But the girl child is discriminated against as opposed to the boy child. https://www.savethechildren.org/us/charity-stories/how-gender-discrimination-impacts-boys-and-girls https://www.unicef.org/nigeria/situation-women-and-children-nigeria https://nigeria.savethechildren.net/sites/nigeria.savethechildren.net/files/library/Changing%20the%20story%20of%20the%20Nigerian%20Girl%20Child.pdf https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/girls-gender-african-child-policy-forum-report/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318454193_Right_to_Inclusive_Development_of_the_Girl_Child_in_Africa
And, are you for real, asking about a female almajiri?? Seriously?? So you're saying you've never seen or cannot find a female beggar in all of the country, old or small? C'mon. Haha.
Sexism in okay in moderation... Feminism is nonsense ( I don't care what YOU think)
"What a man can do, a woman can do better" is not always true.
Pound for pound, man are naturally physically stronger than women. Ask military folks.
I wouldn't delve into the emotional aspect. It's very subjective.
Lmaoo. Sexism is okay in moderation, but feminism is nonsense? Continue. And you wonder why young women are embracing feminism. It's stuff like this. Nobody cares for what you think as well, and that you're saying it doesn't make it true. Men and women are equal. Biological differences doesn't undermine that. Take it or leave it. At least the phrase is partially true rather than being completely false.
socialmediaman: Feminism is misunderstood by many Nigerian women who advocate for it. I also do not agree with certain parts of feminism, especially the ones that advocate for equality of leadership in the household. I will get back to feminism in a moment, let me address something in the next 2 paragraphs.
Who are the Nigerian feminists and how do they misunderstand it or want more? Can you give instances? Any home in which the husband and wife do not jointly run decision and consult each other, is bound to fail. That's equality of leadership. You're automatically assuming a wife and a husband will always be against one another, therefore, clashes are bound to arise for them leading together. If they are of one mind, seamlessly synchronizing their choices and decisions, everybody'll good. So in your absence, if your wife held the forth and assume the role of decision-maker you're ascribing to the husband, that's tantamount to an insubordination? Some of y'all understand these things, but it kills you to call it feminism or see women assuming such roles. Women are capable.
There are irreligious feminists who do not subscribe to submitting and they are married. Go and nullify it.
Back to the topic of feminism. When it comes to equal pay, right to inheritance, right to vote, right to lead in organizations, right to be respected as humans, right of social association, I think many men already subscribe to feminism, though many Nigerian men struggle with that. Women should be able to have nights out with their friends and colleagues, belong to social and political groups etc but you see those household chores like doing dishes and laundry, vacuuming, cleaning and making food available? It’s her job, just like most men do the trash, wash the car, do the yard work and also help out sometimes.
Lmao. Okay. Let's assume these roles are reversed, what exactly is bound to go wrong? I wanna know. If Nigerian men subscribed to just 1% of the things you listed, our shout and push back wouldn't be this hard, I promise you.
Anyway, feminism is about being treated fairly though the advocates almost always want to go beyond what it is, which is why many men oppose it. It’s a game, feminism will likely never be accepted by men because it threatens their role in the society and they not it’s not not just about equity, it’s something more. Nigerian feminism is worse, it’s about challenging gender roles on a platter of entitlement which is why it may never succeed.
Very vague open accusations. Have you even dated a feminist before? Relate well with most of them? If follows logically that if you don't like or are averse to a kind of people, you'll misrepresent what they do. What are the instances of this kind of feminism without the work you say Nigerian ladies practice? Right. If the independence of women threatens men's role in the society, there's something seriously wrong with such roles then.
queenblossom: A woman is being raped and she is scared to speak up , because when she speak up,she will be blamed and the man will go free . I remember some years back when I was ganged raped, I couldn't open up to alter a word to anyone because in those days you there not say it. Not now that women are coming out to speak up . And now women are speaking up and they are still being condemned for speaking. And they say feminism is evil. You do not have the right to speak. And even some so called women of God ,still join the men to condemn us for speaking . We will fight this evil till we win the battle. Yes call it feminism, I don't care. The way of feminism has not even started and they are scared already. We are just in genesis now,by the time we get to malachi they will understand.
I swear. They never see anything, wo.
By the way, two pages and more and still no logical concise counter to OP. Make una keep it up our logical gender.
socialmediaman: Feminism is misunderstood by many Nigerian women who advocate for it. I also do not agree with certain parts of feminism, especially the ones that advocate for equality of leadership in the household. I will get back to feminism in a moment, let me address something in the next 2 paragraphs.
Our parents understood there is something called role play in the house. The man is the head of household whether he makes less income or not. The decisions should be made by him after due consideration with the wife, but that responsibility should be left to him for the good of the home.
It’s like CEO and CFO. The CFO is the person who does the finances, and advises the CEO on budgets, expenditure and income. But the CEO is empowered and trusted to make decisions for the company. In the home, the man is the CEO while the wife is the CFO. If you don’t think your man should lead your family, don’t marry him, stay single or find someone else. You stifle the man’s ability to lead when you continue to contest leadership of the home with him. Many of us make more money than our parents yet we allow them to lead and make decisions, but in the home we want to lead our husbands.
Back to the topic of feminism. When it comes to equal pay, right to inheritance, right to vote, right to lead in organizations, right to be respected as humans, right of social association, I think many men already subscribe to feminism, though many Nigerian men struggle with that. Women should be able to have nights out with their friends and colleagues, belong to social and political groups etc but you see those household chores like doing dishes and laundry, vacuuming, cleaning and making food available? It’s her job, just like most men do the trash, wash the car, do the yard work and also help out sometimes
Anyway, feminism is about being treated fairly though the advocates almost always want to go beyond what it is, which is why many men oppose it. It’s a game, feminism will likely never be accepted by men because it threatens their role in the society and they not it’s not not just about equity, it’s something more. Nigerian feminism is worse, it’s about challenging gender roles on a platter of entitlement which is why it may never succeed.
My problem with the Nigerian Feminism is that even outside the Home, Nigerian feminists don't know how to avoid being mannerless, toxic and wicked.
cooooooks: Sexism is discrimination (and more) based on sex/gender.
Not limited to women.
Feminism, well, depends on which feminist you ask.
In short, feminism is about advocating for women. It is necessary. As are pretty much all advocacy groups.
It has achieved it's poliltcal and social objectives of equal human rights between men and women in terms of education, voting, and labor rights, except it wants special victimhood privileges and status for their gender I don't see it's necessity expect in some cultures that promote girl marriage and gender mutilation, but for it to want equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunities shows how delusional the ideology has become
It has achieved it's poliltcal and social objectives, except it wants special victimhood privileges and status for their gender I don't see it's necessity expect in some cultures that promote girl marriage and gender mutilation, but for it to want equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunities shows how delusional the ideology has become
There really isn't any 'it' with specific objectives.
What Feminist A thinks is the 'goal' may be the starting point (or even undesired) for Feminist B.
Exactly my point I need to understand why they are not congruent in their definitions of their objectives
Women can vote, be educated, can work That's all
End of story
What do they want again.except maybe special victimhood privileges for being traditionally oppressed and marginalized by the so-called Patriachy when we know these a distortion of reality to demonize Masculinity and our ancestors and reform it to suit their political agenda which is female supremacy under the guise of equality via forced equality in outcomes rather than meritocracy based on competency in the heirachy
I've understood feminism so well that when my younger sister was forming feminism, I sounded a serious warning to her and she gave that idea up last year
And it's been over a year and she never brought it up again
I even screenshotted and saved our chat on my phone in case of future occurrence or in case she makes such mistake perhaps in her husband's house when she gets marries
cooooooks: Sexism is discrimination (and more) based on sex/gender.
Not limited to women.
Feminism, well, depends on which feminist you ask.
In short, feminism is about advocating for women. It is necessary. As are pretty much all advocacy groups.
Lmaoooooo. I'm surprised at your last line. Are you really the one saying that? Watin happen? NL prison don rebrand you? I understand it, sha. If you no learn for that prison, may I naked baff.
I've understood feminism so well that when my younger sister was forming feminism, I sounded a serious warning to her and she gave that idea up last year
And it's been over a year and she never brought it up again
I even screenshotted and saved our chat on my phone in case of future occurrence or in case she makes such mistake perhaps in her husband's house when she gets marries
Lol. Congratulations on successfully driving her further into the fold. Iffa hear say she don discard feminism, unless she no get kakaraka spirit. You think she'll bring it up around you again knowing the backlash she's bound to get?
That's one fear for some other women as well. It's just to cast off the fear and damn the judgment. But for mind, dem be feminists already.
I like that, what we've been asking with regards to Nigerian feminism.. (don't quote anything outside).
Well mag , i read your links, the one relating specifically to Nigeria, it has nothing to do with feminism and more about the girl child in relation to poverty and structural disadvantages which affects the poor, the emphasis was placed on the girl child because they're seen as more vunerable, the report is also specific to northern states where religion is in conflict with western ideals.
So, again, as a Nigerian feminist from the south what are you trying to achieve?
You might as well combat poverty and lack of education.. that's what the report points to , not husband and wife palaver, jobs etc
You are spewing your opinions here. Can you show us the statistic that supports the lies you stated above? In the contrary feminism is one of the best things that happened to mankind in my own opinion. This is because it has exposed misogynist and weak men who think they can control women relying on selective useless religious books and outdated traditions for the fraud they are.
Studies have shown that anti-feminist are women haters in most cases and racist, because the two feeds on each other. The studies also have shown that such problem always has roots in the persons past, especially at early family and childhood conditions.
You have to look inward mate, your incel behaviors may have its roots with the way your father treated your mother when your were young.
What people like you fail to understand is that not everyone believes in the transcendental world, so using any beliefs on such bases as the foundation of your thought makes no meaning to them.
They are both one and the same thing. Each sex needs to understand his or her God given role. The man is the head and the woman is a help to the man. Also in the church, the man is head and the women again help and assist
Church, church, church
Naija man will remember Bible and church when it suits them.
Lol. Congratulations on successfully driving her further into the fold. Iffa hear say she don discard feminism, unless she no get kakaraka spirit. You think she'll bring it up around you again knowing the backlash she's bound to get?
That's one fear for some other women as well. It's just to cast off the fear and damn the judgment. But for mind, dem be feminists already.
Babe we had a long discussion and I was able to convince her logically with facts and also Bible quotations
She is my sister and she's not stubborn
I know the kind of family I came from and my siblings relate on a different level
We're opinionated and are biased
So you telling me about pushing her into feminism is probably a wrong idea that you must have conceptualized from where I can't explain
Babe we had a long discussion and I was able to convince her logically with facts and also Bible quotations
She is my sister and she's not stubborn
I know the kind of family I came from and my siblings relate on a different level
We're opinionated and are biased
So you telling me about pushing her into feminism is probably a wrong idea that you must have conceptualized from where I can't explain
You initially sounded commando-ish. Like some patriarchal, no-nonsense hard guy. Just giving your sister a command, warning her and "threatening" her with chats concerning her future and marriage. That gave me vibes of a boiling, masked backlash in her. Yup. I inferred it.
But now that you're saying you logically convinced her or whatever, and having a discussion (like you actually sat down in a peaceful, non-confrontational way) that changed her mind, okay. Good luck to ya'all.
Oh. Oh. But you detest bias and a vocal/***, opinionated stand in feminists, abi? That kind of firmness/fierceness is from the devil? Got it. No problem if y'all are all that and as long as she ain't anti-woman, cool.
doyoohhh: That Magno.liaa girl at least tried to explain.
I like that, what we've been asking with regards to Nigerian feminism.. (don't quote anything outside).
Well mag , i read your links, the one relating specifically to Nigeria, it has nothing to do with feminism and more about the girl child in relation to poverty and structural disadvantages which affects the poor, the emphasis was placed on the girl child because they're seen as more vunerable, the report is also specific to northern states where religion is in conflict with western ideals.
So, again, as a Nigerian feminist from the south what are you trying to achieve?
You might as well combat poverty and lack of education.. that's what the report points to , not husband and wife palaver, jobs etc
1. Keep your praises to yourself 2. Stop trying to evoke a smartness you don't have: you tell me the issues in the links I posted have no correlation to feminism and still ask me what I'm doing about the issues as a feminist? 3. Again, if you hadn't made the error of number 2, you'd know I was responding to the Rondo's guy comment about the girl child having privileges the boy child do not have. To him, a male faces more discrimination than a female. The point of my links was to counter that. The instances he gave do not automatically sets the boy child below the female child. I had to look for factual articles/researches expressing my sentiments better. Anybody can claim anything.
Ms Magnolia, you need to stop projecting ideas onto people.
You are 'surprised' because you create narratives in your head based on Jah knows what.
Maybe when you have a conversation with someone, actually read their statements and hold them to only what they do say. Not what you tthink is implied".
Lmaoooooo. I'm surprised at your last line. Are you really the one saying that? Watin happen? NL prison don rebrand you? I understand it, sha. If you no learn for that prison, may I naked baff.
