Kaycee7:
You don try. Can't be adding stress to your life for this economy

pu7pl3:


I've been following the show oh. Laboured to finish season 1 out of my love for the original franchise and watched the first 3 episodes of season 2 before I decided to stop deceiving myself☹️

phr0nesis:

Same situation with me. I believe I've tried my best

pu7pl3:


Abeg Abeg
Them no even get reproductive organs WYM. Before this show have you heard of any female orc? Even in the books?

pu7pl3:



She go give am slimy rizz😂😂😂😩😩😩

pu7pl3:


If they do it and make her evil then they've killed the franchise
1bn down the drain

abduleez1:


Orcs are actually originally Elves. Its Morgoth who tortured I think about 13 of them who strayed too far from the rest of the tribe in middle earth.
He tortured them and mutilated them to the monstrous beings they are now.

And yep, Orcs actually do procreate just like Humans and Elves. That explains their huge numbers all through the ages.
It's just not talked about much to minimise the disgust.

Orcs made from mud and slime was originally Tolkien's plan before rewriting it with the Morgoth storyline. It's infused in the movie scene of Saruman making Orcs or Uruk-Hai from "mud and slime". More or less Peter Jackson's reference to Tolkien's original ideas.

OhBritannia:
Now i get the whole point.
And it may seems as though, sauron is coming for revenge too.
One of the things that maskes this show mysterious is we are waiting to see how sauron will gain control.
Because he is just one man now with no armies, it seems practically impossible but then again, his name is sauron and he is a dark lord.
Perhaps we will get to see other dangerous creatures in the show later.

Illusioneffect:

Looks like you're not following the show at all. Right from season 1, they've been making Tolkien twitch and turn in his grave. Destroying canon has been their motive all along

pu7pl3:


Hopefully one day we'll get a better iteration even if na animation, gbewa. 🤲🏿🤲🏿

Illusioneffect:

I don't get you👀 is Orcs having feelings for their wives and children canon in Lord of the Rings - where in my statement did I say Orcs don't procreate? And what does procreating have to do with Tolkien's vision of Orcs being evil - Tolkien in an interview I don't totally remember actually said 'he created the Orcs as a definitive definition of evil with no moral compass whatsoever' he didn't make them as a gray character.
The writers broke canon - Orcs are evil not because of their willingness to protect their wives and children but because they're.
It just shows they're not being creative but are trying to add their 'modern spin' to a finished story when it isn't needed

Yemike:

The ring corrupts it's users and she has one she's carrying with pride. She might soon realize it's effect and later reject it before it consumes her sha. Remember, the Nazguls are powerful men, rulers that wears the ring and was consumed by it.

Kaycee7:
When this one become Tolkiendil laidis? Cos casuals no know Illuvatar

pu7pl3:



Wetin this man dey talk? Galadriel dark and wicked from where? Galadriel that is righteous and almost perfect among all the elves?

Yemike:

The same Galadriel that turned dark when Frodo presented the ring to her? Even Samwise hold the ring and was not moved a bit.
She almost failed the test when Frodo present the ring to her but she passed sha.
Her pureness must have come from her following Elrond advice.

pu7pl3:



Wetin this man dey talk? Galadriel dark and wicked from where? Galadriel that is righteous and almost perfect among all the elves?

abduleez1:


I only gave a counter statement to "orcs are made from goo and slime" saying they were originally created by Elves mutated to Orcs by Morgoth.

Yep, the show has done a shitty job trying to give Orcs a human spin which isn't working. I too find that fighting for land and family narrative moronic.
The showrunnners like you said are just trying to fill a blank space that Tolkien never talked much about.

On Orcs procreation, I prolly mixed up your comment with that of someone else since I was replying multiple persons at once.

abduleez1:


Sauron is damn nigh powerful because he's a Maiar and immortal and has gained significant knowledge from his powerful master Melkor.
If he wants to kill Adar on the spot and take control of the Orcs, he could. The Orcs are terrified of him for a reason.

The only reason you see Sauron looking less powerful or weak is cos he's the master of disguise and persuasion. He only does that to quickly further his goals — to rule the entire Middle Earth. And to do that, you can't rule an entire continent by armies and force alone. You need something greater — influence.
That's the sole reason of his crafting of the RINGS to influence (or control) all beings of Middle Earth (Elves, Dwarves, Men).

This is perhaps the biggest lesson he learnt from Morgoth's defeat. Brute force and violence won't get you much for a while.

Yemike:

Your dislike for this show knows no bound
You cannot dictate what the orcs are, the life their living from LOTR. This happened way back before LOTR. It's expected to be more complex and revealing.
From the story orcs were once men, some of them elves produced as a result of dark magic. Some of the early orcs might be able to have families and maybe that's what Sauron wanted to take from them.
It's a movie bro, it's meant to be enjoyed and if you're not enjoying a particular movie delete it and select another from the million available movies and allow others to enjoy the movie you hate to love.

Yemike:
Why is interview with the vampire season 2 giving only gay vibes? To worsen the matter, the come change Claudia act. The claudia act from season performed excellently and was even my favourite character. I decided to keep on watching but gays just too plenty. Just like HOTD I don't think this show is for me.

Yemike:

The same Galadriel that turned dark when Frodo presented the ring to her? Even Samwise hold the ring and was not moved a bit.
She almost failed the test when Frodo present the ring to her but she passed sha.
Her pureness must have come from her following Elrond advice.

NeoWanZaeed:


Did you recall the scene of her testing herself with frodo ring? You recall her conversation?
When she faced the necromancer.. recalled her dialogue there?

This rings of power is showing us tact about galadriel

Illusioneffect:

Claudia isn't gay and interview with the vampire has been gay right from s1

joseph1832:
How is the time plot understandable?

Yemike:

Claudia isn't in the picture, her character is too young for that. Season 1 has got vibes and the eccentric Mr Lioncourt made it lively. S1 isn't gay, it's more of a straight relationship.
I'll swap Amad for Mr Lioncourt.
The girl that play Claudia in s1 really nailed it, don't know why they change her sha. Small, petite, pitiful but deadly Claudia.

pu7pl3:



Nothing like that, that ring is different from the ones in this show and she wouldn't become evil, with all her powers and grace she'll become somewhat irresistible with no one being able to tell her no.
She doesn't have an evil bone in her body bro, dead all these Bride of Sauron talks.