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⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell / Must Every Believer Speak In Tongues As An Evidence Of Having The Holy Spirit? / Do People Who Speak In Tongues Fake It Or Understand It? (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by judemurphy(m): 2:39pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:What you are saying is the spirit breath into man during creation, It is different from the Holy Spirit |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Kobojunkie: 2:47pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
judemurphy:Spirit breath? 14 They and every kind of animal on the earth were in the boat. Every kind of cattle, every kind of animal that crawls on the earth, and every kind of bird were in the boat.The same breath also gave life to animals meaning animals have the same breath that God breathed into man in the beginning. ![]() |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 2:47pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
judemurphy: Did I not put John1:4; Genesis 2:7 together? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Image123(m): 4:05pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
LordReed: Facepalms in multiples on your behalfs, this is spinning the meaning of "biblical/scriptural" on its head. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 5:51pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
BassReeves: Touching breast is different from ejaculating. Can you show me how the pleasure of ejaculating is biblical? You claimed: BassReeves: So is the pleasure of driving a fast car biblical? Or are you willing to admit it's not in the bible? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hammurabii1: 6:31pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
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Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by BassReeves: 7:03pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
LordReed:I know that caressing breast or putting it in mouth is different from releasing LordReed:You can try Ezekiel 23:20 for size LordReed:Almost means, nearly or just about and so that remark might or might not automatically include 'the pleasure of driving a fast car' Truth is, it’s not what you drive, but it’s what drives you! LordReed:2 Kings 9:20 'Again the watchman reported, “He reached them, but he is not coming back. And the driving is like the driving of Jehu the son of Nimshi, for he drives furiously.”' I keep telling you that my emphasis wasn't about your preoccupation with the adrenaline rush pleasure of driving a fast car, but is about that important sexual energy pleasure, carried out, under all circumstances, that is right 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 7:37pm On Sep 08, 2021 |
BassReeves: Indeed that was about size not about pleasure. Almost means, nearly or just about and so that remark might or might not automatically include 'the pleasure of driving a fast car' We are talking of pleasure not motivation. SO what if he drives furiously, that's not an expression of pleasure. I keep telling you that my emphasis wasn't about your preoccupation with the adrenaline rush pleasure of driving a fast car, but is about that important sexual energy pleasure, carried out, under all circumstances, that is right And my emphasis is on all pleasures not only sexual. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by BassReeves: 2:03am On Sep 09, 2021 |
LordReed:It also shows you how the pleasure of ejaculating is biblical LordReed:Boy racers take pleasure in racing other drivers at the traffic lights, so yeah driving furiously, for some, its an expression of pleasure, as they get kicks from driving very fast and aggressively in high-powered up cars. The thrill obtained from such reckless excitement is their motivation for it LordReed:Well my comment started with 'Almost everything pleasurable or not pleasurable ...' then the 'almost' was swiftly followed by a caveat and emphasis on sexual pleasure 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 8:03am On Sep 09, 2021 |
BassReeves: I always forget how you guys are Masters of interpreting the Bible to say whatever you want it to say. Going by your standards throwing people down from high buildings is also biblical since the same Jehu ordered it, innit? Incest is also biblical since Lot did it, innit? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Image123(m): 8:52am On Sep 09, 2021 |
LordReed: And you the sly and subtle son of a serpent are not doing otherwise, are you? Like i said, you guys passed off a pitiable understanding and application of the word "biblical/scriptural". You keep goading him to produce something directly written in the Bible as biblical. You conveniently left out the fact that what is biblical/scriptural is not necessarily all/what is written in the Bible but what is approved by the Bible. Your royal folly will claim now that it is not biblical to use a microphone or a car, implying that it is not supported and approved by God. Whereas the Bible says that every good gift comes from God. Very simple and straightforward except for children of snakes of course. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 11:31pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
BassReeves: First of all, there is no record of Balaam's donkey speaking in tongues... I don't know what Bible you use, but in my Bible there is no such record Num 22:28 Then the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?" Num 22:29 And Balaam said to the donkey, "Because you have abused me. I wish there were a sword in my hand, for now I would kill you!" Num 22:30 So the donkey said to Balaam, "Am I not your donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours, to this day? Was I ever disposed to do this to you?" And he said, "No." Num 22:31 Then the LORD opened Balaam's eyes, and he saw the Angel of the LORD standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand; and he bowed his head and fell flat on his face. Secondly, i don't think you understand 1 Corinthians 14:2. Your interpretation of the text and what the text says are completely different. It says, 'in the spirit he speaks mystries' indicating that even the person speaking it doesn't understand what he is saying, but only God does. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 11:39pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
LordReed: All the information you have on atheism was it self-generated? Didn't you learn them? While you were a believer did you ever receive an answer to prayer?... I mean knowing beyond any shadow of a doubt that it had to be God Himself who did something in your life. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by BassReeves: 2:28am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece:Numbers 22:28 New Living Translation NLT 'Then the LORD gave the donkey the ability to speak. “What have I done to you that deserves your beating me three times?” it asked Balaam.' Numbers 22:28 International Standard Version ISV 'That's when the LORD enabled the donkey to speak She asked Balaam, "What did I do to you that you would beat me in the space of only three footsteps?"' Numbers 22:28 GOD'S WORD Translation 'Then the LORD made the donkey speak, and it asked Balaam, "What have I done to make you hit me three times?"' Numbers 22:28 Good News Translation GNT 'Then the LORD gave the donkey the power of speech, and it said to Balaam, "What have I done to you? Why have you beaten me these three times?" ' Beloved, since the bible version you quoted is NKJV, well, from that version, you see that when God opened the mouth of the donkey, God literally gave the donkey the power of speech such that it had the ability to speak, just like a human being does speak. Hismasterpiece:You do know that there is no 'i' in team, so if you desire to make a difference in life and/or in other people's lives, then it is not about 'me, myself and I'. Whats the point in speaking in another tongue or language, if no one understands you or if people in your earshot won’t be able to understand you. That exactly is the point that 1 Corinthians 14:2 is making us see that such person will be talking about mysteries that only the Spirit understands. It is a selfish, self serving and self centred, it doesnt edify, encourage nor comfort others in the body of Christ Now, if you are being honest to the truth and to yourself, you'll know that 1 Corinthians 14:2 contextually studied, is advising love and prophecy ahead of the gift of speaking in an unknown tongue or unknown language Still on context, even 1 Corinthians 14:5 states that the person who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless the latter interprets so that the church may be edified I am sure you dont realise that silence is God's first language. Meaning you dont always have to speak anything before God gets to understand you 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 8:08am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: What information? I didn’t need any information on atheism to ask the question I asked myself. Of course at the time I thought it was a god answering my prayers but in hindsight I know now that the world doesn’t work that way. I don’t pray now and I still get things done or have favorable outcomes. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Image123(m): 10:21pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
LordReed: Lol, you forgot to tell him that your mum and wife still do prayer vigils for your favourable outcomes. Just a gentle reminder. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Nobody: 1:10am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Please Can you help me with any amount of money? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by BassReeves: 7:31am On Sep 12, 2021 |
LordReed:We dont say whatever we carnally want the bible to say. Rather under the guidance of the Spirit of Truth, we hermeneutically say what the Bible is saying. LordReed:Ecclesiastes 1:9-11 '9History merely repeats itself. It has all been done before. Nothing under the sun is truly new. 10Sometimes people say, “Here is something new!” But actually it is old; nothing is ever truly new. 11We don’t remember what happened in the past, and in future generations, no one will remember what we are doing now.' I dont do 'Going by your standards ...' sic. Just because Jehu ordered throwing people down from high buildings, doesnt mean you too have to order throwing people down from high buildings. Just because Lot's daughters committed incest with their father, Lot doesnt mean you have to do same 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 3:28pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
LordReed: can you give me some examples of those answers to prayers you received please? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 3:31pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
LordReed: i'm just trying to say that we all got our knowledge from either what we experienced, were told, or what we read that's all... there's no other way to get knowledge |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 3:46pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Yes but we must have a way of sifting through what is true and what is false or else we accept every story that comes our way. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 3:50pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Years ago I was stranded at a car park and didn't have enough money to get to my next destination. I prayed to the god and approached a girl who I had travelled with to beg her to help me and she obliged. Back then I attributed it to answered prayer, now on the other hand I would see it as the kindness of a stranger taking pity on me not a god answering my prayer. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:06pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
LordReed: Can you give me another instance where you knew for certain that it had to be God? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:07pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
LordReed: On what basis do you determine what is true and what is false? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 12:04am On Sep 18, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Do you mean if i was certain then because I don't think any god answered my prayers now. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 12:07am On Sep 18, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Depending on the claim, the type of evidence available. How do you determine what is true or false? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:09pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
LordReed: Testing it to see for myself |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 9:10pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
LordReed: Is there any other thing that happened in your life in the past that you attributed to God? |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 9:52pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece:Sounds good. How did you test that a god exists for example. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by LordReed(m): 9:59pm On Sep 20, 2021 |
Hismasterpiece: Yeah several. I passed my SSCE and JAMB in single sittings, naturally I attributed my success to the god. I prayed for family to become born again and when I got back from school my mum was born again, my father followed sometime later then my siblings after that. |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 2:42pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
LordReed: You don't need to test that. It is obvious. The more reasonable queston is which is the true way to God? Islam? Christianity? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible To Speak In Tongues And Still Go To Hell by Hismasterpiece(m): 2:43pm On Sep 21, 2021 |
LordReed: Can you tell me something else if you don't mind. Something that you know you had no hand in. Something that you know just had to be God. |
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