TenQ:

It's never about the victim. It is about the offence of gross WICKEDNESS to a fellow human being due to selfishness.

In the world, there is what we call "offence against the state"!

So what does "the state" benefit from torturing the perpetrator forever?

LordReed:


So what does "the state" benefit from torturing the perpetrator forever?

The state doesn't need to benefit anything as the state is the executor of JUSTICE!

TenQ:

The state doesn't need to benefit anything as the state is the executor of JUSTICE!

What justice is achieved by torturing someone forever?

LordReed:


What justice is achieved by torturing someone forever?

TIME DOESNT EXIST AFTER DEATH

TenQ:

TIME DOESNT EXIST AFTER DEATH

Nor do people carry out any activities after they are dead so I guess your hell concept is nothing but a story you tell yourself for comfort. The only justice available to us is the one we can collectively arrange now. We get nothing waiting for imaginary heaven, hell and judgements after death.

LordReed:


Nor do people carry out any activities after they are dead so I guess your hell concept is nothing but a story you tell yourself for comfort. The only justice available to us is the one we can collectively arrange now. We get nothing waiting for imaginary heaven, hell and judgements after death.

Its either HEAD or TAIL!
You'll see the one who actually fooled himself.

We both will KNOW at the other side

TenQ:

Its either HEAD or TAIL!
You'll see the one who actually fooled himself.

We both will KNOW at the other side

Even your bible says the dead know nothing nor is there any activity in the grave. When you actually provide evidence of the things you claim then we can take it seriously.

GboyegaD:
Glad he was able to rise above the challenge however, the wickedness of the robbers is out of this world. Hopefully, they have been caught and justice have been meted on them.

The robbers would all have died miserably several yeara ago. Maybe they were even grinded by a fast-moving train, or maybe my skull mining brethren in Ogun cut them into pieces for sale to ritualists.

LordReed:


Even your bible says the dead know nothing nor is there any activity in the grave. When you actually provide evidence of the things you claim then we can take it seriously.

The physically dead of course his body knows nothing!
But the physically dead his soul/spirit is alive.
Resurrection is the recombination of the physical body with the soul/spirit of man.

You don't have to agree with this. At death, the answer will be obvious and glaring

TenQ:

The physically dead of course his body knows nothing!
But the physically dead his soul/spirit is alive.
Resurrection is the recombination of the physical body with the soul/spirit of man.

You don't have to agree with this. At death, the answer will be obvious and glaring

How do you know soul/spirit exists?

LordReed:
How do you know soul/spirit exists?

How do you know that your phone or laptop is powered with a software?
You've never met the programmers, have you?

TenQ:

How do you know that your phone or laptop is powered with a software?
You've never met the programmers, have you?

Glad you said programmers because there isn't a single programmer called The Programmer, there are several and I have met some. You on the other hand have never met your god or an angel or a demon nor can you say go here and meet an of the mentioned beings, instead you rely on some stories from the Middle East. Stories are not evidence nor are analogies, before you start trying to draw the usual false equivalence parallels with programmers and software.

LordReed:


Glad you said programmers because there isn't a single programmer called The Programmer, there are several and I have met some. You on the other hand have never met your god or an angel or a demon nor can you say go here and meet an of the mentioned beings, instead you rely on some stories from the Middle East. Stories are not evidence nor are analogies, before you start trying to draw the usual false equivalence parallels with programmers and software.

I was very specific with my question
How do you know that your phone or laptop is powered with a software?
You've never met the programmers (of your phone), have you?

TenQ:

I was very specific with my question
How do you know that your phone or laptop is powered with a software?
You've never met the programmers (of your phone), have you?

And I answered in the affirmative. As to how I know my phone has software, I understand the structure of the phone's operations and I have seen it demonstrated.

Meanwhile my observations stand, your have never met your god, angels or demons nor are stories and false equivalence analogies evidence.

LordReed:


And I answered in the affirmative. As to how I know my phone has software, I understand the structure of the phone's operations and I have seen it demonstrated.

Meanwhile my observations stand, your have never met your god, angels or demons nor are stories and false equivalence analogies evidence.

You know the programmers of your phone!?
What is the evidence you have softwares running your phone?

You are just repeating the same thing: was the phone programmed in your presence?
If your phone is truly powered by softwares, why don't you bring the software out on the table for us to see or at least take the picture of the software?

TenQ:

You know the programmers of your phone!?
What is the evidence you have softwares running your phone?

You are just repeating the same thing: was the phone programmed in your presence?
If your phone is truly powered by softwares, why don't you bring the software out on the table for us to see or at least take the picture of the software?

When you are ready to actual present evidence for soul/spirit lemme know.

LordReed:

When you are ready to actual present evidence for soul/spirit lemme know.

When you are ready to actual present evidence for the program in your phone, let me know

TenQ:

When you are ready to actual present evidence for the program in your phone, let me know

Yeah sure ignore my responses then pretend like you have actually answered my question which by the way I asked first but obliged you a response. This is how we know those who honestly interact and those who don't.

Imustnottalk:
the same calamity will happen to you so you can believe it since you chose to think with your hands not your head

Brother to die is thankful �. If I don’t die you won’t live

Lokojatoofar:


Are you one of the criminals that strike at night? Are you trying to make people dismiss this mans claim? To make it look like armed robbers have not done this and even worse than this ?

Only arm robbers that know you. I am not dismissing this claims but I feel terrible thinking that humans think and pray to god to let them achieve their goals for the day.

LordReed:


Yeah sure ignore my responses then pretend like you have actually answered my question which by the way I asked first but obliged you a response. This is how we know those who honestly interact and those who don't.

When you ask a stupid question, I give you a gentle converse.

1. A spirit is immaterial but you insist I should give you a Physical evidence.
It's just like me requesting that you to bring out the software in your laptop and place it on the table for all to see.
Apparently, this is what you ask for: bring a spirit to the physical realm.
2. The fact that there is no machine that can physically interact with a spirit is no proof that spirit don't exist.
Just as the fact that square root(-1) isn't physically presentable does not mean it isn't a realistic in computation.
You it's like attempting to measure the charge on an electron with a ruler.

If you think it is a logically correct question or demand for the physical proof of a program running your laptop, then, you can't be helped!

TenQ:

When you ask a stupid question, I give you a gentle converse.

1. A spirit is immaterial but you insist I should give you a Physical evidence.
It's just like me requesting that you to bring out the software in your laptop and place it on the table for all to see.
Apparently, this is what you ask for: bring a spirit to the physical realm.
2. The fact that there is no machine that can physically interact with a spirit is no proof that spirit don't exist.
Just as the fact that square root(-1) isn't physically presentable does not mean it isn't a realistic in computation.
You it's like attempting to measure the charge on an electron with a ruler.

If you think it is a logically correct question or demand for the physical proof of a program running your laptop, then, you can't be helped!

Are you bereft of understanding? I asked:

LordReed:
How do you know soul/spirit exists?

See the jargons you are using to answer. Does the claptrap you have written answer the question I asked?

LordReed:


Are you bereft of understanding? I asked:

See the jargons you are using to answer. Does the claptrap you have written answer the question I asked?

Thank God for records!

LordReed:

When you are ready to actual present evidence for soul/spirit lemme know.

But I can answer the other question too
1. I follow the teachings of the bible and the bible teaches that soul and spirits exist. In fact, the bible says "God is a Spirit"
2. It is logical as the soul/spirit are the equivalence of the Operating System and Application Softwares that powers the physical body of a person

TenQ:

Thank God for records!

You added the qualifier of physical, you brought up issue of spirit interacting with machines. I asked for how you know spirit/soul exists with the expectation you'd produce whatever evidence you have. I didn't constrain you in the manner of evidence you need to produce except what cannot obviously be evidence like mythological stories and fallacious conjectures. If you have evidence for how you know spirit/soul exists produce it and stop beating about the bush.

TenQ:


But I can answer the other question too
1. I follow the teachings of the bible and the bible teaches that soul and spirits exist. In fact, the bible says "God is a Spirit"
2. It is logical as the soul/spirit are the equivalence of the Operating System and Application Softwares that powers the physical body of a person

So aside from being told by an ancient book and your intuition, is there anyway you have substantiated the existence of spirit/soul or you just take it on faith?

LordReed:


So aside from being told by an ancient book and your intuition, is there anyway you have substantiated the existence of spirit/soul or you just take it on faith?

I did NOT just take it by faith:
I said, it makes logical sense that a "software" runs our physical consciousness and that this "software" is the soul/spirit of man.

I said:

2. It is logical as the soul/spirit are the equivalence of the Operating System and Application Softwares that powers the physical body of a person

Looking for a physical evidence of the soul and spirit is exactly like asking for a physical evidence of a software in the hardware.

The Soul or Soul/Spirit is
what produces INTUITION and INSTINCT as functions of the software that runs the hardware of living beings.
E.g. A male dog somehow know how to mate with a female dog on heat without any training.
A software contain both data, information and instructions. These are the functions of the soul.

TenQ:

I did NOT just take it by faith:
I said, it makes logical sense that a "software" runs our physical consciousness and that this "software" is the soul/spirit of man.

I said:


Looking for a physical evidence of the soul and spirit is exactly like asking for a physical evidence of a software in the hardware.

The Soul or Soul/Spirit is
what produces INTUITION and INSTINCT as functions of the software that runs the hardware of living beings.
E.g. A male dog somehow know how to mate with a female dog on heat without any training.
A software contain both data, information and instructions. These are the functions of the soul.

That is why I said "and your intuition". Now I asked how you substantiated this claim, I didn't ask for physical evidence. What convinced you that soul/spirit are real? If only your intuition and what the Bible says were all it took then you believe it by faith.

LordReed:


That is why I said "and your intuition". Now I asked how you substantiated this claim, I didn't ask for physical evidence. What convinced you that soul/spirit are real? If only your intuition and what the Bible says were all it took then you believe it by faith.

Did I mention my intuition?
No. You have gotten me wrong again.

TenQ:

I did NOT just take it by faith:
I said, it makes logical sense that a "software" runs our physical consciousness and that this "software" is the soul/spirit of man.

I said:


Looking for a physical evidence of the soul and spirit is exactly like asking for a physical evidence of a software in the hardware.

The Soul or Soul/Spirit is
what produces INTUITION and INSTINCT as functions of the software that runs the hardware of living beings.
E.g. A male dog somehow know how to mate with a female dog on heat without any training.
A software contain both data, information and instructions. These are the functions of the soul.

In other words, apart from the scriptures, it MAKES LOGICAL SENSE to me.

Any other explanation is like assuming that a man is similar to a mechanical clock. To me, a man is closer described As an advanced AI robot rather than a mechanical clock

TenQ:

Did I mention my intuition?
No. You have gotten me wrong again.


In other words, apart from the scriptures, it MAKES LOGICAL SENSE to me.

Any other explanation is like assuming that a man is similar to a mechanical clock. To me, a man is closer described As an advanced AI robot rather than a mechanical clock

Your logical sense is also known as intuition and we all know your intuitions are not always correct. Our intuitions may tell us that the earth is flat because to the eye it looks flat but that is not correct as the earth is not flat so we must find a way to confirm if our intuitions are correct. Which is my question to you how did you confirm that your logical sense/intuition on this matter is correct?

LordReed:


Your logical sense is also known as intuition and we all know your intuitions are not always correct. Our intuitions may tell us that the earth is flat because to the eye it looks flat but that is not correct as the earth is not flat so we must find a way to confirm if our intuitions are correct. Which is my question to you how did you confirm that your logical sense/intuition on this matter is correct?

I hope you know the difference between logic and intuition?

Intuition has to do with gut FEELING not determined by reasoning.
Logic has to do with REASONING, DEDUCTIONS from available knowledge.

Your example of the flat earth is about our PERCEPTION and not INTUITION.

How does a virgin male dog know how to mate with a female dog on heat?
Is it by Perception, Intuition or Logic?

Is a human being more like a mechanical clock or an AI robot?

TenQ:

I hope you know the difference between logic and intuition?

Intuition has to do with gut FEELING not determined by reasoning.
Logic has to do with REASONING, DEDUCTIONS from available knowledge.

Your example of the flat earth is about our PERCEPTION and not INTUITION.

How does a virgin male dog know how to mate with a female dog on heat?
Is it by Perception, Intuition or Logic?

Is a human being more like a mechanical clock or an AI robot?

Can you just answer the question, how did you confirm that your logical sense was correct and real.