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Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by Rhino5dm: 6:02am On Jun 02, 2011
Was jonathan the best option we are having on the ballot papers?

Why were you guys sentimental and so blinded by ethnic orientation while voting?

Until when there is holistic desire to change things for better, expect no sympathy from me to thieves.

Okay answer this what on earth is GEJ doing with Tinubu(since tinubu is a criminal)?

Is he working for the oppositions or Nigerians?
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by igboboy1(m): 6:31am On Jun 02, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

Was jonathan the best option we are having on the ballot papers?

Why were you guys sentimental and so blinded by ethnic orientation while voting?

Until when there is holistic desire to change things for better, expect no sympathy from me to thieves.

Okay answer this what on earth is GEJ doing with Tinubu(since tinubu is a criminal)?

Is he working for the oppositions or Nigerians?
na only u sabi ask question?
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by igboboy1(m): 6:33am On Jun 02, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

Was jonathan the best option we are having on the ballot papers?

Why were you guys sentimental and so blinded by ethnic orientation while voting?

Until when there is holistic desire to change things for better, expect no sympathy from me to thieves.

Okay answer this what on earth is GEJ doing with Tinubu(since tinubu is a criminal)?

Is he working for the oppositions or Nigerians?
na only u sabi ask question?

ok my turn: why is tinubu mingling with the fisherman afterall he is too educated to be seen with a useless southerner okwa ya?

WHy is it after all his voking and mouthing now he is sheathing his sword, look at his mouth "opposition is not about guns and bla bla ", typical odua mouth dem sabi

why is it you are saying people that voted for GEJ were blinded by ethnicity as if your love for ACN is not due to ethnicity as well ? undecided
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by muami(m): 6:36am On Jun 02, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

Was jonathan the best option we are having on the ballot papers?

Why were you guys sentimental and so blinded by ethnic orientation while voting?

Jonathan WON and is now the PRESIDENT of NIGERIA, Buhari LOST and is now in his VILLAGE. Thats a fact! So even if you keep on asking questions until eternity, it would not change anything!
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by dayokanu(m): 7:00am On Jun 02, 2011
Shebi the chief NL GEJ campaigner said Tinubu would go to jail.

Well Odechukwu realizes that he cant survive without Tinubus support
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by igboboy1(m): 7:19am On Jun 02, 2011
dayokanu:

Shebi the chief NL GEJ campaigner said Tinubu would go to jail.

Well Odechukwu realizes that he cant survive without Tinubus support

its the other way around,, u know see how ur odua bush man dey change mouth within a week of the president being sworn, yorubas and their wishy washy attitude sef, stick to something and i'll respect y'all, COWARDS
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by Rhino5dm: 7:29am On Jun 02, 2011
Was Jonathan and Buhari the only contestants? This PTDF arrangi scholarship sef.
I will advise them to take their money to casino in Texas.

muami:

Jonathan WON and is now the PRESIDENT of NIGERIA, Buhari LOST and is now in his VILLAGE. Thats a fact! So even if you keep on asking questions until eternity, it would not change anything!
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by isleman(m): 7:39am On Jun 02, 2011
Its a good call for the progress of the country. Many of us are just looking for a leader that will spend 4 years fighting and stepping on toes. In as much as we need Justis, equity and fairness, above all, we need progress.

We need to stop fooling ourselves, these people are politicians. They call themselves names to gain a strong negotiating ground and that is what we are seeing now.

No doubt CPC is still really bitter about the election, but so do some of us. But national interest should always come first.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by klas(m): 7:53am On Jun 02, 2011
Meetings with 'opposition' (a misnomer in presidential system) by the sitting presidents have always been the case since 1979. as bitter as 1979 contest was, Awo, Zik, Waziri andAminu Kano not only met with Shagari within 100 days of his assumption of duty, meetings were regularly held until 1982. Obj met with 'opposition' in 1999 even though AD boycotted the first meeting because Falae was in court.

Contrary to the report quoted by the OP, the meeting was not bilateral between GEJ and Tinubu but multilateral involving all parties that won seats in the National assembly.
ACN was represented by its National Chairman (Akande), Ngige, Tinubu and Akume.

We may not so much value the office of the president in Nigeria, but in the US that we copy, the basic etiquette is that an invitation from the White House is not a request but almost a command that only may be a death in the family is considered a valid excuse for not honouring. GOP leaders still honour Obama invitation even though they dont agree on many policies.

Below is the account of the meeting by the Guardian

PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan yesterday held a consultative meeting with the leaders of major political parties in Nigeria, enlisting their support towards the implementation of his government’s transformation agenda.

He said during the opening remarks at the meeting held at the Banquet Hall of Presidential Villa Abuja, that despite their political differences, Nigerians expect that it is their national duty to ensure that they receive the dividends of democracy.

He told the political leaders that their interests are the same, “the interests of Nigeria. I am not going to play politics of discrimination. Lets cooperate for the interests of our people.”

The meeting was attended by leaders of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP), All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), Labour Party (LP) and the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP). The only major political party absent at the parley was the Congress for Progress Change (CPC) as their leaders’ seats were vacant throughout the duration of the meeting.

Those present at the meeting included Dr Bello Mohammed (Chairman of PDP), Abubakar Kao Baraje (Secretary of PDP) and Olusola Oke (PDP Legal Adviser), Chief Bisi Akande (Chairman of ACN), Chief Bola Tinubu (leader of ACN), Senator George Akume and Dr Chris Ngige (Senator-elect and former Governor of Anambra State).

Others are Dr Ogbonnaya Onu (Chairman of ANPP), Admiral Lanre Amosu (ANPP chieftain), Chief Victor Umeh (Chairman of APGA), Dr. Tim Menakaya (APGA chieftain) and Chief Dan Nwanyanwu (Chairman of LP).

Among those who accompanied President Jonathan to the meeting were Vice President Namadi Sambo, Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) Chief Anyim Pius Anyim.

President Jonathan told the meeting that the successful conduct of the April general elections has placed more responsibilities on Nigeria both on the continental and international level, especially the quest of Africa to occupy a permanent seat at United Nations Security Council (UNSC), noting that “if we have a stable polity, our leadership role will increase and our citizens status will increase. The party of Mr. President cannot do it alone.

He thanked the political leaders for the various roles they play in the democratic process, saying that “those of us who won elections wouldn’t have won without you leaders. You gave us the positions. You are the King makers.”

According to the President, “as we want to start a new government, I am going to consult various groups and professional bodies. And I think the first group I should consult is the political family. No matter who is the President, no matter who is the governor, what Nigerians are interested in is to have food on the table, there should be infrastructure, there should be security and should be good governance. And I know that not only the ruling party alone can make this possible. For me to succeed, to give Nigerians what they want, we must run a stable government. I need the cooperation of all the political parties, all the leaders.

“That is why I call you, to assure you that I will run a Nigerian government. I want to assure you that our interest is the Nigeria interest and I know that the interest of every politician irrespective of the political party is the interest of the country. I am not going to play politics of discrimination. I want to plead with you that I will not want to run a government of opposition party or main party, I want us to collectively run a Nigerian government. A government that will take the interest of the country at heart and work towards solving our problems, the problems that are dear to our people.

“As your members of parliament will be inaugurated next week Monday or Tuesday, I want you to impress it on them that they are coming to work for Nigeria, not necessarily for Goodluck Jonathan. Let us co-operate and work for the interest of this country. Along the line, there will be differences but the President is not God and I believe we can always be able to resolve our differences without acrimony, without rancour. And I believe that is the best way we can run the country. We are now talking about two countries representing Africa on the UN Security Council and people are looking forward to Nigeria because of the political crisis in Egypt.”

At the end of the meeting, Chief Tinubu told journalists that the participation of the opposition parties with President Jonathan does not mean that their powers were watered down, stating that “opposition is not all about axe, cutlasses and dane guns. We did not come here to eliminate opposition. And I am speaking for my own party and not for any other party. If the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria invites you, then what he really wants is a constructive opposition.

However, that does not stop you from opposing any bad government.” Tinubu added that “the campaign is over. We are all Nigerians. Patriotism dictates that you put the nation first before your personal interest. Therefore you don’t have to look at the political partisan angle but look at the intention of the President, exactly what he wants to achieve. He is the President until maybe the judiciary says otherwise. As a nationalist, you have to respond to the call of the President and he spoke very well today. The meeting was a very successful one but that does not eliminate opposition.”

The ACN leader stated that the meeting with President Jonathan “does not water the strength of the opposition parties in the country. It is a one day meeting. It is not a regular meeting. There is a constructive level of opinion that you can get and use to build the nation. There is security situation. There are judicial matters too.

There are so many issues in a complex country such as this that you can share and still not jeopardize the opposition. Opposition is not about axes, cutlasses and dane guns.”

Tinubu noted that as political leaders interested in the growth and development of the nation, an invitation by the President to attend a meeting is in the right direction. He however assured that the ACN would continue to raise its voice in opposition to government decisions or policies that run contrary to the wishes and aspiration of the Nigerian people.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by klas(m): 8:11am On Jun 02, 2011
isleman:

Its a good call for the progress of the country. Many of us are just looking for a leader that will spend 4 years fighting and stepping on toes. In as much as we need Justis, equity and fairness, above all, we need progress.

We need to stop fooling ourselves, these people are politicians. They call themselves names to gain a strong negotiating ground and that is what we are seeing now.

No doubt CPC is still really bitter about the election, but so do some of us. But national interest should always come first.

I agree with you 100% at bolded. When GEJ in March 2011 said the SW is too enlightened to be left in the hands of rascals, the media influenced by the ACN aparatchik shouted themselves hoarse. Tinubu said GEJ insulted SW leaders' parents. What he did not admit was that GEJ was even refined in copying his (Tinubu) earlier statement in October 2010.

Former governor of Lagos State and a national leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, Tuesday  disclosed  that he predicted the fall of the former Oyo State governor, Adebayo Alao-Akala in  October last year.

Tinubu who was in Ibadan to felicitate with Alao-Akala’s  successor, Abiola Ajimobi,  however admonished the new Oyo State governor to study the handover notes prepared by his predecessor very well.

Tinubu alleged that the hand over note was full of lies and that was why Alao-Akala could not muster enough confidence to hand over personally.

He said:  “I told the guests at  the launch of a book on the Olubadan of Ibadanland, Oba Samuel Odulana that because of the history of Oyo being the historical foundation of the progressive politics noted for its firsts, the state is too important to be left for the dogs and destroyers.

“They shouted at me; abused me and asked me to go. But I told them I would come back to chase them out of office.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tinubu-i-predicted-alao-akala-s-fall/92417/
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by tayoTFC(m): 8:57am On Jun 02, 2011
@poster,
what make the meeting a secret talk with Tinubu? ode is he the only person that attend the meeting? mumu the meeting was cover by media house and press, so hater adjust ur heading, to ( Jonathan in open meeting with progressive and other political party leaders)

@hater
read this ,,,,, Opposition is not about axes, cutlasses and dane guns.”

Tinubu noted that as political leaders interested in the growth and development of the nation, an invitation by the President to attend a meeting is in the right direction. He however assured that the ACN would continue to raise its voice in opposition to government decisions or policies that run contrary to the wishes and aspiration of the Nigerian people
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Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by Nobody: 9:04am On Jun 02, 2011
igbo boy:

its the other way around,, u know see how your odua bush man dey change mouth within a week of the president being sworn, yorubas and their wishy washy attitude sef, stick to something and i'll respect y'all, COWARDS

I'm sure your anger is borne out of Jonathan's special regards for Tinubu which you wished should be given to one of your people.Anyways,I'm not in support of anything that has to do with a party that has done nothing for this country in the last 12 years,so Tinubu should watch out for the snakes in pdp including jonathan.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by maclatunji: 9:12am On Jun 02, 2011
The CPC spokesman, Rotimi Fashakin stated the his party did not attend the meeting because the invitation letter did not specify an agenda. For me that is fair enough, if you invite me to a meeting, you should at least let me know what we want to talk about. GEJ is very funny, I am watching the subterranean moves he is making at the moment to extend his tenure beyond the lawful 4-year limit. I am just amazed at the rate at which Nigerian leaders can continue to take the wrong decisions for this country.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by forkadict(m): 9:25am On Jun 02, 2011
This is to all JEJ supporters on this forum. May God spare our lives until 2015. If by 2015, i take stock of events in my life by assessing the level of impact the government has made on my life and i discover that i am not better off or i discover that i am even worse off, I will curse everyone of you, your fathers, your mothers, your uncles, your children and all your relations for wasting another four years of my life. Making it 16 years of my life wasted by that rogue party called PDP. We had the opportunity to make a change but you sentimental and short sighted things went ahead and blew the opportunity. Once again, may God spare our lives, i dey look una and una JEJ.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by reindeer: 9:53am On Jun 02, 2011
Tinubu na master planner.
Booted PDP out of the south west and now they have to woo him and i bet he has more clout in Aso rock than many of the people who jumped on the PDP bandwagon.
Back to the point, its good CPC didnt go for the meeting. They would have been gullible to go for a meeting whose agenda is unknown and the next morning you see all sorts of headlines in the press.
Whatever GE Jones is doing ,it is only a matter of time before his house of lies begins to unravel.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by johnie: 10:00am On Jun 02, 2011
klas:

I agree with you 100% at bolded. When GEJ in March 2011 said the SW is too enlightened to be left in the hands of rascals, the media influenced by the ACN aparatchik shouted themselves hoarse. Tinubu said GEJ insulted SW leaders' parents. What he did not admit was that GEJ was even refined in copying his (Tinubu) earlier statement in October 2010.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tinubu-i-predicted-alao-akala-s-fall/92417/



Klas, thanks for the clarifications. These are the facts a lot of people are ignorant of.

I agree with you and Isleman.

These politicians we read condemning themselves on the pages of newspapers speak with each other privately.

Its all politics. I pity those who get carried away with what the politicians say.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by maxygirl(f): 10:02am On Jun 02, 2011
Lets just hope the meeting was to move Nigeria forward then it does not matter if it was secret or public,
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by Bensonite: 11:13am On Jun 02, 2011
fork adict:

This is to all JEJ supporters on this forum. May God spare our lives until 2015. If by 2015, i take stock of events in my life by assessing the level of impact the government has made on my life and i discover that i am not better off or i discover that i am even worse off, I will curse everyone of you, your fathers, your mothers, your uncles, your children and all your relations for wasting another four years of my life. Making it 16 years of my life wasted by that rogue party called PDP. We had the opportunity to make a change but you sentimental and short sighted things went ahead and blew the opportunity. Once again, may God spare our lives, i dey look una and una JEJ.
You must be a lazy boy/man by your post. If by 2015 you still do not find a job because you are unemployable or have entrepreneuring skill blame it on GEJ supporters on NL. No one will join your family into this because only you choose to be lazy. Now wake up from sleep the elections are over. You have been sleeping for 12 years is that what you are saying?
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by otitokoro1: 11:25am On Jun 02, 2011
Nigeria has become a Private business of these shareholder, GEJ the Chairman grin grin grin
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by ideylaff: 11:36am On Jun 02, 2011
@alj_harem,
Thank you sir,we can only have those you listed in a peaceful atmosphere! Look at what is happening in Libyia and Yemen the beautiful cities are becoming rumbles. Irrespective of party affiliation,Nigeria belong to us all. Akande even said the meeting should hold regularly. It is well with Nigeria.


RE: Akande even said the meeting should hold regularly,


of course naw, why wld he not want a monthly meeting so they can collect transport money 4rm Orubebe anytime they go there, chop and clean mouf people sad

yes nobody holy pass out of all of them, they only understand money and power and now use their followers to massage their already over blotted egos
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by member479760: 11:42am On Jun 02, 2011
ofcourse sitting allowance don flow full ground.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by otokx(m): 11:49am On Jun 02, 2011
GEJ is playing his cards well.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by omanzo02: 11:58am On Jun 02, 2011
Why can't u all wait for a competent court to declare Tinubu guilty as a thief, criminal and cocaine pusher before GEJ can disassociate himself from him?.

If Tinubu is the chairman of ACN and all opposition parties chairmen were invited, what do u suggest GEJ should do, ask Tinubu to send someone else?. Please let make constructive argument here.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by fadhill: 12:01pm On Jun 02, 2011
Some people are full of head devoid of reasoning. Why do you need to write before you think. If any of your people is relevant, I am sure GEJ will like to have a meeting with him/her. Enlist what makes Tinubu earn the appellation, criminal, you carcass head attributed to him. Why all the beef about the Yoruba you mumulity. I understand, may be SW success in rooting Poverty Development People (PDP) out of power.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by forkadict(m): 12:04pm On Jun 02, 2011
Bensonite:

You must be a lazy boy/man by your post. If by 2015 you still do not find a job because you are unemployable or have entrepreneuring skill blame it on GEJ supporters on NL. No one will join your family into this because only you choose to be lazy. Now wake up from sleep the elections are over. You have been sleeping for 12 years is that what you are saying?
For your info Mr Benson & Hedges, i am employed. Gainfully employed for that matter. maybe after you don smoke benson abi na igbo, smoke don full your brain. Na why you come NL dey misyarn be dat.

Since you have just proven to the whole world that you are dhaft and stooooooooopid not to understand my simple post, im a break it down for you. So here we go mr. stoooooopid:
(1) I spend so much on fuelling my gen which would have been unneccessary if power were to be stable. So if by 2015, i still spend so much or even more on fuelling my gen, then JEJ and his silly supporters on NL will meet me here in 2015.
(2) I spend so much on maintaining my car cos of the conditions of the road around my house and on the way to my office. I replace Shock absorbers, ball joints, bushings of my car every now and then. So if by 2015, i still spend so much or even more on maintaining these parts of my car, then JEJ and his silly supporters on NL will meet me here in 2015.
(3) JEJ plans to increase electricity tariffs next january. If this happens, i will spend much more than i currently do on energy and because I aint working in the civil service, i dont expect a commensurate increment in my salary to cushion the effect of increased spending on power. The overall effect the increase in tariff will have on me is that i will have reduced disposable income.
Many more examples abound but for the sake of my time, i will limit the examples to the ones above. I will advice you (i.d.iot) to beg the moderator to take down your post cos you just displayed your folly to the world to see. but i no blame you sha, NL na for gbogbo ero.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by ak47mann(m): 12:13pm On Jun 02, 2011
ACN party self doing election they were acting as if goodluck jonathan is not capable to rule nigeria and move the country forward look at them now kissing his backside rascals cheesy cheesy
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by fadhill: 12:20pm On Jun 02, 2011
While will you not for once release your sense from the confide of your feet. GEJ stated categorically that he can't possibly rule the country successfully without their input, ditto support.

ak47mann, you may ask GEJ the need to invite and have a secret meeting with the leader of whom he perceived a rascal to rebuild Nigeria. Well, NL harbour different vigour of species.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by Kobojunkie: 2:01pm On Jun 02, 2011
dayokanu:

Shebi the chief NL GEJ campaigner said Tinubu would go to jail.

Well Odechukwu[b] realizes that he cant survive without Tinubus support
[/b]

He can't survive what? I mean what exactly is the purpose Tinubu is to serve in this government? The man is not even an elected leader of any kind but the sitting president is giving him so much power and we are happy for this why?

This is what is wrong with our democracy, we have too many God fathers, and apparently, a president who feels, rather than approaching the people directly, making deals with Godfathers is the way to go.
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by aljharem3: 2:06pm On Jun 02, 2011
Kobojunkie:

He can't survive what? I mean what exactly is the purpose Tinubu is to serve in this government? The man is not even an elected leader of any kind but the sitting president is giving him so much power and we are happy for this why?

This is what is wrong with our democracy, we have too many God fathers, and apparently, a president who feels, rather than approaching the people directly, making deals with Godfathers is the way to go.

+ 1000
kiss
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by lekan002(m): 2:30pm On Jun 02, 2011
dat is nice 2 be a leader is not and easy thing and not only d president can control us
Re: Jonathan In Secret Talks With Tinubu by luluosas(m): 3:26pm On Jun 02, 2011
Jonathan has started to reveal the REAL PDP poison in him. This should not be a surprised to those of us who saw it long before the elections. Remember, the Opposition parties and Tinubu contributed to the success of Jonathan at the pools. He must find a way to compensate them for their support. Very soon, you start to see brief cases with a any visitor Aso Rock. Mark my word.

See the happenings before the election and you will know that, Jonathan, Tinubu all Oppositions political parties except CPC are the same.

http://www.leadershipeditors.com/ns/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28788:jonathan-in-secret-meeting-with-tinubu-others&catid=51:cover-stories&Itemid=142
http://thewillnigeria.com/politics/8206-Presidential-Politics-Jonathan-Secret-Talks-With-Tinubu-Fashola.html
http://nigerianpilot.com/?q=content/6-presidential-candidates-step-down-jonathan-46-opposition-parties-confirm-endorsement
http://panafricannews..com/2011/04/nigerian-pdp-opposition-parties.html

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