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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by chuckdee4(m): 5:25pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Just heard Joey Barton is available on a free. IMO i don't think he's Arsenal quality but it would be good to have a bull dog in the middle of the park and if anyone plays with a passion, Joey does. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by loyika(m): 5:29pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Barton to Arsenal for[b] FREE[/b], What say ye all. Thinking of it, i doubt even Arsene will think he can afford him ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Also i doubt Nasri and Diaby will be too chuffed to have Joey in their team, but he will add that bit of bite in midfield that we lack. See him going to join either the "Walrus" at the Hammers or "Crock Harry" at Spuds though. ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by debosky(m): 7:13pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Let's not go overboard - while wanting signings we shouldn't be signing criminals for the sake of making a signing. Although you never know with Wenger. . . |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by proudly9ja(m): 7:20pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
The guy is free, dats all Monsiuer Wenger wants to hear. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Meanwhile, dudu's dream may just come true this season Wenger wants Miyaichi to stay at Arsenal |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by chuckdee4(m): 7:33pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
debosky: Debosky we need a thug in midfield to crunch a some bones n give that feeble defence of ours some more protection |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by dipo2much(m): 8:45pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Signing a thug doesn't necessarily result in protection for the midfield. It is more of potential danger as we will know we have someone who is likely to collect a card right from the blowing of the whistle. I will be so disappointed in AW if he gives it a though to sign Barton as that will signal a contradiction to the the kind of football that has kept so many ardent fans even after 6 trophyless years. I say NO to Joey Barton. He can join Stoke City for all I care |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 9:29pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
guardian's assessment of arsenal
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by ritchboy(m): 10:51pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
^^ 5th ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by dayokanu(m): 10:56pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
So this useless club have even stopped talking about winning the leagie they are now fighting for 4th position What a hopeless club BTW i dont think Pool would do anything reasonable this season, midtable for them |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by Vieira(m): 11:28pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Barton? God forbid bad thing. If he wears an Arsenal shirt I will boo him all day long. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by Ibime(m): 11:31pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
The only problem with Wenger's philosophy is in applying the philosophy to the defence, buying non-physiacl "ball-playing defenders" and looking to "groom" defenders just like he does midfielders. I continue to insist that Wenger can do himself a favour by buying cheap but battle-tested defenders. I cannot see past a ninja like Carlos Cuellar as a perfect signing for Arsenal - a player who fits Wenger's transfer and wages profile, but one who is extremely battle tested. Wenger should also look at Ninjas like Dedryck Boyata, a player who fits Wengers age profile but with immense physicality. Our Nigerian brother Nedum Onuoha is also someone who has no-nonsense defending style. His passing is atrocious, but then again Sol Campbell was one of the worst passers in the Prem, and Chris Smalling's atrocious passing hasn't hurt United yet. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by proudly9ja(m): 11:35pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Ive read this somewhere else but just read it again on Myles Palmer's page, (pls dont throw away the baby with the baby-water) You’re dealing with egos and heavy contracts and it’s very difficult to unload Almunia, Eboue, Squillaci, Bendtner, Chamakh, Vela and Fabianski, Basically, its talking about us paying high wages to our young players and thus making it difficult to offload them when they don't live up to expectation (clubs are finding it hard to meet up with their wages). Makes some sense. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by proudly9ja(m): 11:38pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Ibime:I still believe we will bring in a defender. It will be foolhardy of AW to think the current set up of the defence will take us anywhere above 7th place in the league. Someone joked somewhere that the reason we haven't signed a defender is so that we wont have to pay his wages from July. At least we've saved one month salary ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 11:46pm On Aug 01, 2011 |
Ibime: wenger only signs specialists. all wenger's players must be highly technical. excellent ball control, comfortable in possession, good eye for the pass, etc. these qualities weigh more on wenger's mind than the physicality. wenger will not buy players who are not comfortable in possession or whose ball skills are non-existent. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by dayokanu(m): 12:20am On Aug 02, 2011 |
^^ Yet he splashed money on Walcott who doesnt have any of those eye pleasing skills Nor did I see any of those abilities in Squilacci, Sol Campbell, Kolscieny Bendtner etc |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 12:25am On Aug 02, 2011 |
dayokanu: they are all technical players unless you watch your football upside down. compare the players above to john o'shea, fletcher, gibson, wes brown, js park and it becomes more evident the difference between specialists and water-carriers. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by Ibime(m): 12:31am On Aug 02, 2011 |
Koscielny is a specialist. Wenger wants to play a high-line. His Barcelona-esque possession footie is such that centre-backs in his words should be able to "play a high-line, recycle possession quickly, harrass the opposition near the halfway line, and have recovery pace to stop the counterattacks." These are exactly the qualities that Koscielny possesses. Wenger just never thought that Koscielny may have to defend in his own box or challenge for aerial balls. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by dayokanu(m): 12:33am On Aug 02, 2011 |
Whats technical about Walcoot aside take the ball sprint. Pius Ikedia is technical? Walcott cant turn to save his life never mind threading a pass. Sol Campbell was just a brute no nonsense defender with little ball skills, 90% of Sols ball out of defence were hoofs to the middle or throw-in Not forgetting the grate Specialist Senderos, Pascal Cygan Stepanovs Squilacci and Kolscieny are similar though they dont boot the ball out but have little ball skills I even forgot Silvestre bendtner a Specialist? In what exactly? maybe Gynaecology ![]() ![]() ![]() The ball players from Defence in Arsenal, the greatest was Kolo Toure and this isnt suprising given that he started as a midfielder |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 12:52am On Aug 02, 2011 |
dayokanu: dayo, all these players are more technical than their counterparts in the premier league. kolo toure is not even high up the list. thomas vermaelen nko? eboue? clichy? koscielny? wenger signs specialists. walcott is a specialist. don't mix football brain with techniques. walcott has tekkers - but no football brain. j-s park has football brain but no technique. nani has techniques but the football brain is a bit lacking. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by duduspace(m): 12:56am On Aug 02, 2011 |
debosky: I get the stuff about us playing a high line but honestly the boy is just damned fidgety, not sure if its because its pre-season but neither Mannone nor Fabianski came out as much as he did. I think he is very exhuberant. Imagine how far out he was when Chamakh and Vela were coming in, and he kept doing it all through the match. ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by eldee(m): 10:16am On Aug 02, 2011 |
First Sauron comes up with B.S about . . . teams from other countries don't have to obey basic contract laws of football transfers. Now some idiot on Twitter is telling me Liverpool made a bid of 15mil for Barton on a [b]free [/b]transfer. I think we should start giving people compulsory business classes on this thread. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 10:29am On Aug 02, 2011 |
eldee: http://www.atleticofans.com/5671/clarification-on-agueros-buy-out-clause/ so you can tell the w@nker on your twitter that buyout clause is a spanish agreement. when it comes to international transfers (bids from abroad) like the one supposedly from man city/chelsea -- it is irrelevant. except as a symbolic price, a reference point from which you can negotiate. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by debosky(m): 11:10am On Aug 02, 2011 |
proudly9ja: Make up your mind. . . didn't you say it was because they weren't good enough that no one was interested? ![]() Besides, this same Myles Palmer claims Arsene will 'soon' sign Cahill AND Jagielka, plus another player from abroad all this week. . . .I leave you to decide whether someone making such a claim is worth believing or not. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by MrTA(m): 11:18am On Aug 02, 2011 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by proudly9ja(m): 11:47am On Aug 02, 2011 |
debosky: 1st line of my post says, don't throw away the baby with the baby water for a reason. Read the story on its merit not because it was written by Palmer. Am I not allowed to make decisions based on new information? Moreover, Ive not said I totally agree with him. I only said, his story makes some sense. I don't have all the data at hand. I don't know what Denilson or the others earn. Im only saying that if they earn as high as Miles Palmer wants us to believe, then it makes sense that clubs are finding it dificult to get them off our hands. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by Ibime(m): 12:15pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
debosky: Sharrraaaaaap!!! Were you not no 1 Myles Palmer fan until Dayo and I told you he is nothing but a rabble-rouser? Any punk can sit behind his computer and claim to be "in the know" about inner workings of the club. Did I not write few articles for Goal.com some years ago? Me sef am "in the know". ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 12:19pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
Ibime: show me the article you wrote for goal.com! ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by chuckdee4(m): 12:20pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
Heard City want to improve their bid for Nasri to £22M I say take the money and bring Mata in, Nasri has not looked the least bit interested since pre season began. Wenger should get rid of this silly kid, half a decent season and he thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. The chap is still far from being the finished product, if he's reluctant to signing a new contract then let him go, the last thing we need is a player who doesn't want to be at the Emirates. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by Ibime(m): 12:23pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
coogar: They dont exist no more. I wrote almost every week. I had posted some links on NL some years back but those links are dead. Most of the cats who used to write for goal.com write bollocks from the comfort of their home and pass it off as investigative journalism. theyve stepped their game up though. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by ritchboy(m): 12:35pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
Ibime: You must have been the king ![]() Now you've brought your expertise to NL ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by coogar: 12:39pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
Ibime: goal.com is rubbish. . . . .i have never trusted them. they lack credibility and 99% of the rubbish on there are lies, speculations and pub rumours. ritchboy: ibime na king of trumpery - always has been. if goal.com could hire ibime then what else is there to say about the outfit? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by debosky(m): 12:45pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
ritchboy: Aint it the truth! ![]() @ Ibime Myles has insights into Wenger's personality because he's studied him and written a book on him. Those were the comments that I tended to agree with, not his transfer speculation. @ Proudly You do need to make up your mind. Someone else can come and tell you that the reason Arsenal can’t shift players is because the masseuse at London Colney gives the best happy endings ever and the players will rather run down their contracts than leave her magic fingers behind. Would you also believe that because it ‘makes sense’? ![]() No ‘new information’ has been provided. He has made a claim that Arsenal players get paid ridiculous wages - something people have claimed without evidence and repeated till it’s now considered fact. I’m not bothered by the fringe players - they will leave in due course. |
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