Nothingserious:


Christianity can stand on its own.
Theism can stand on its own.
Arguments for Christian or theistic views can be made on their own.
Christians and other theists are also scientists.

Thus being a Christian doesn’t alienate one from being a scientist.

It therefore implies that science didn’t make you agnostic or atheistic.

You don’t really know why you are a skeptic, do you? Lol

He knows!

And they are not skeptics, they are people who have decided that they would no longer pretend to be good doing persons when in Truth, they wish do one or two or three evils whenever they feel like it, without any hindrance of any kind.

Then, after doing these evils, they do not want to be punished for doing them.

That is their True Problem with God, the Bible and Christians.

As you see, you do not see them bothering Muslims or traditional worshippers for none of them tell them to stop being wicked and evil.

Dtruthspeaker:


He knows!

And they are not skeptics, they are people who have decided that they would no longer pretend to be good doing persons when in Truth, they wish do one or two or three evils whenever they feel like it, without any hindrance of any kind.

Then, after doing these evils, they do not want to be punished for doing them.

That is their True Problem with God, the Bible and Christians.

Oh I see!
Freedom without responsibilities and repercussions.
Thank you for the clarity.

Nothingserious:


Christianity can stand on its own.
Theism can stand on its own.
Arguments for Christian or theistic views can be made on their own.
Christians and other theists are also scientists.

Thus being a Christian doesn’t alienate one from being a scientist.

It therefore implies that science didn’t make you agnostic or atheistic.

You don’t really know why you are a skeptic, do you? Lol

Your problem is you know very little about the history of your religion.

In history, science and Christianity started as "enemies" with early Christians who were Catholics murdering lots of early scientists and philosophers most of which were freethinkers (agnostics, atheists, heretics).

If you don't know the history of your religion and the persecution of early scientists and philosophers, learn it now and be enlightened.

It's not a coincidence that most highly accomplished scientists are/were freethinkers. Even the religious ones only bear Christian or Muslim names but aren't practicing.

The fact is, the more you delve deeper into science, the more enlightened you become, and religious texts will consequently look childish or superstitious to you because you they're replete with tons of contradictions and scientific errors, especially the Bible.

That's why science is a key tool for agnostics and atheists.

Nothingserious:

Oh I see!
Freedom without responsibilities and repercussions.
Thank you for the clarity.

Glad to help!

A001:

Your problem is you know very little about the history of your religion.

In history, science and Christianity started as "enemies" with early Christians who were Catholics murdering lots of early scientists and philosophers most of which were freethinkers (agnostics, atheists, heretics).

If you don't know the history of your religion and the persecution of early scientists and philosophers, learn it now and be enlightened.

It's not a coincidence that most highly accomplished scientists are/were freethinkers. Even the religious ones only bear Christian or Muslim names but aren't practicing.

The fact is, the more you delve deeper into science, the more enlightened you become, and religious texts will consequently look childish or superstitious to you because you they're replete with tons of contradictions and scientific errors, especially the Bible.

That's why science is a key tool for agnostics and atheists.

And you have to start off with lies?
Damn it. You must be a child to want to re-write history before us.

So tell me how Christianity was an enemy of science.

For the umpteenth time, tell me why you are a skeptic without hiding behind science. Science and agnosticism or atheism aren’t synonyms.
Do I have to use megaphone to say this before you understand?

Why is it difficult for you to defend your worldview?

Lol

Nothingserious:


You are already loosing track so soon.
And who told you Christians do not question things?

No, as a Christian you're not allowed to question the Bible. You must only follow it as a sheep.

People that question the Bible are called heretics and skeptics.

Nothingserious:

Why would you ask me about specifics when my response mentioned Christianity severally?
Stop leaning on science and defend your worldview on its own for once.

I should stop leaning on science when I'm a physicist? Is everything okay with you?

Why am I then a physicist if Physics doesn't make me understand the world I live in and see the great deception in organized religion so I can save myself from mental slavery and ignorance?

Nothingserious:

Tell me exactly what science said about God. If you can’t, then I conclude you are the one speaking and not science

There's no scientific evidence that God exists. If you feel otherwise, post the evidence here, and not your biblical verses.

Two sheep in accord. Lols.

A001:

Your problem is you know very little about the history of your religion.

In history, science and Christianity started as "enemies" with early Christians who were Catholics murdering lots of early scientists and philosophers most of which were freethinkers (agnostics, atheists, heretics).

If you don't know the history of your religion and the persecution of early scientists and philosophers, learn it now and be enlightened.

It's not a coincidence that most highly accomplished scientists are/were freethinkers. Even the religious ones only bear Christian or Muslim names but aren't practicing.

The fact is, the more you delve deeper into science, the more enlightened you become, and religious texts will consequently look childish or superstitious to you because you they're replete with tons of contradictions and scientific errors, especially the Bible.

That's why science is a key tool for agnostics and atheists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

Those dug deeper but didn’t think Christianity was superstitious.

Rather they understood that science was part of the tools humans would use to investigate and TRY TO USE TO UNDERSTAND NATURE.
They know science is limited to NATURE. They know there is SUPER-NATURAL beyond science and naturalistic methodology.

Please stop lying

A001:

No, as a Christian you're not allowed to question the Bible. You must only follow it as a sheep.

People that question the Bible are called heretics and skeptics.

I should stop leaning on science when I'm a physicist? Is everything okay with you?

Why am I then a physicist if Physics doesn't make me understand the world I live in and see the great deception in organized religion so I can save myself from mental slavery and ignorance?

There's no scientific evidence that God exists. If you feel otherwise, post the evidence here, and not your biblical verses.

If we can find just a SINGLE Christian who is also a Physicist, then your point is countered and nullified.
I know a Christian must have even taught you in physics. I know there are many Christians who are professors in physics. So you see? Physics didn’t make you a skeptic any less it made that professor of physics a Christian.

Try again. Hahahahaha

Nothingserious:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

Those dug deeper but didn’t think Christianity was superstitious.

Rather they understood that science was part of the tools humans would use to investigate and TRY TO USE TO UNDERSTAND NATURE.
They know science is limited to NATURE. They know there is SUPER-NATURAL beyond science and naturalistic methodology.

Please stop lying

Of course, there are many experts in Christian science. Those are charlatans that study science through the lens of religion or the Bible.

Thus, if they make any observation or discovery contrary to the will of Jehovah or the Bible, they discard it.

But real scientists study science through nature. Thus, it's observation and data that guide them, not a god or a religious text.

Hence, they're mostly agnostics and atheists. We owe them all things we enjoy in today's world, not your god.

A001:

No, as a Christian you're not allowed to question the Bible. You must only follow it as a sheep.

Wrong! We are allowed to ask reasonable questions and the Bible itself still satisfactorily answered them.

A001:

There's no scientific evidence that God exists. If you feel otherwise, post the evidence here, and not your biblical verses.

Imagine cankerworms want to test the Carpenter!

You people are not well at all!

Even you will not allow your ruler to measure you.

A001:

No, as a Christian you're not allowed to question the Bible. You must only follow it as a sheep.

People that question the Bible are called heretics and skeptics.

I should stop leaning on science when I'm a physicist? Is everything okay with you?

Why am I then a physicist if Physics doesn't make me understand the world I live in and see the great deception in organized religion so I can save myself from mental slavery and ignorance?

There's no scientific evidence that God exists. If you feel otherwise, post the evidence here, and not your biblical verses.

Who told you Christians don’t debate on the Bible every time in Bible schools and Bible studies?

You see your life? You didn’t even know that the Bible said to test ALL spirits?

You didn’t know the Bible said to capture every vain philosophy?

You didn’t know the Bible talked so much about getting knowledge, wisdom and critical thinking?

You just stay in your small microscopic microcosm and talk about what you know little or nothing.

If you have any SCIENTIFIC law or theory that had anything to say about God, please show me now or keep silent forever!

Your time starts now!!!

A001:

Of course, there are many experts in Christian science. Those are charlatans that study science through the lens of religion or the Bible.

Thus, if they make any observation or discovery contrary to the will of Jehovah or the Bible, they discard it.

But real scientists study science through nature. Thus, it's observation and data that guide them, not a god or a religious text.

Hence, they're mostly agnostics and atheists. We owe them all things we enjoy in today's world, not your god.

Do you know what fraud or who a fraud is?

Anyone who looks at a list where pure and applied sciences are discussed and INTENTIONALLY TWISTS IT TO mean Christian Science is a fraud.

Stop that. You won’t grow or learn that way!

Nothingserious:


Who told you Christians don’t debate on the Bible every time in Bible schools and Bible studies?

You see your life? You didn’t even know that the Bible said to test ALL spirits?

You didn’t know the Bible said to capture every vain philosophy?

You didn’t know the Bible talked so much about getting knowledge, wisdom and critical thinking?

You just stay in your small microscopic microcosm and talk about what you know little or nothing.

If you have any SCIENTIFIC law or theory that had anything to say about God, please show me now or keep silent forever!

Your time starts now!!!

No scientific evidence showing your god exists.

All you've up there is biblical gibberish.

Nothingserious:


Do you know what fraud or who a fraud is?

Anyone who looks at a list where pure and applied sciences are discussed and INTENTIONALLY TWISTS IT TO mean Christian Science is a fraud.

Stop that. You won’t grow or learn that way!

Many scientists have discussed Christian science and the charlatans practicing it.

A good example is Carl Sagan's The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark.

Dtruthspeaker:


Wrong! We are allowed to ask reasonable questions and the Bible itself still satisfactorily answered them.

Lols, reasonable questions? We both know you're not allowed to question many aspects of your religion.

You can't even question your god or Jesus Christ. Lols. That means you're in mental slavery. Only a slave can't question his master.

Only skeptics and heretics question everything, whether it's religion, science, philosophy, etc.

Nothingserious:


If we can find just a SINGLE Christian who is also a Physicist, then your point is countered and nullified.
I know a Christian must have even taught you in physics. I know there are many Christians who are professors in physics. So you see? Physics didn’t make you a skeptic any less it made that professor of physics a Christian.

Try again. Hahahahaha

Yes, there are professors of Christian science. And some of these charlatans happen to be in the Physics field.

A001:

Lols, reasonable questions? We both know you're not allowed to question many aspects of your religion.

You can't even question your god or Jesus Christ. Lols. That means you're in mental slavery. Only a slave can't question his master.

Only skeptics and heretics question everything, whether it's religion, science philosophy, etc.

I have once or twice reasonably debated with you AND YOU COULD NOT COUNTER.

I can only do this because I have also asked those same questions you thought important and I got the Answers for them.

And I have been here since about 2019 Answering every reasonable question you people could raise AND NOT ONE OF YOUR KIND COULD VALIDLY AND REASONABLY AND TRULY ANSWER ME, TIIL TODAY.

So you are Wrong!

Dtruthspeaker:


I have once or twice reasonably debated with you AND YOU COULD NOT COUNTER.

I can only do this because I have also asked those questions you thought important and I got the Answers for them.

You've started with your lies again. I won all the debates I've had with you.

Your fellow sheep above has failed to provide the scientific evidence showing his god exists as I requested. Instead, he posted biblical teachings as proof.

Can you help him out?

Nothingserious:


Lol!
Christianity is religion. Those who follow Jesus Christ are members of Christianity.
Therefore Jesus followers are religious people.

There is nothing wrong with being religious. It’s a good thing. I am proud to be a follower of Jesus Christ. I know I can be called a religious person. There is no negative connotation with it.

What the Bible condemns is hypocritical acts in the name of religion. Or impure religion. Or being religious and not helping other humans in need of help.

I agree with you even though my point of view was different.

Religion is ANYTHING men do in other to please their God.

In a house, even though the CHILDREN do things to please their Parent, however much differently than Slaves and Servants in the same House. For the children, the emphasis is not in the DOING of things but on BEING the Sons/Children of their Parent. For the CHildren, the RELATIONSHIP is more important that the ROUTINE of ACTIVITIES.

A001:

You've started with your lies again. I won all the debates I've had with you.

Typical with you people, Lying is always an option.

A001:

Your fellow sheep above has failed to provide the scientific evidence showing his god exists as I requested. Instead, he posted biblical teachings as proof.

Can you help him out?

I answered you already and you were unable to respond. Then tomorrow you would lie that you won .

Secondly, what would you call 'scientific evidence" that you exist in nairaland? (Then I would answer you)

A001:

Yes, there are professors of Christian science. And some of these charlatans happen to be in the Physics field.

You are a fraud.
You passed out being taught Christian Science and claimed you studied physics.

Nothingserious:


You are a fraud.
You passed out being taught Christian Science and claimed you studied physics.

Lols. I don't study science through the lens of your Bible or religion, but through nature.

Thus, I'm anti-Christian science.

A001:

Yes, there are professors of Christian science. And some of these charlatans happen to be in the Physics field.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

You are a BIG FRAUD for twisting all of those from the link as Christian Science assuming you really understood what that term meant

A001:

Lols. I don't study science through the lens of your Bible or religion, but through nature.

Thus, I'm anti-Christian science.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

I thought you wanted to talk about each of the scientists.

Lol!

Wannabe agnostic who doesn’t understand his worldview and cannot defend same.
I guess you are just an 16 year old who is still struggling with identity crisis.

Dtruthspeaker:


Typical with you people, Lying is always an option.



I answered you already and you were unable to respond. Then tomorrow you would lie that you won .

Secondly, what would you call 'scientific evidence" that you exist in nairaland? (Then I would answer you)

You answered me already? You're the same person as the other guy above that posted biblical gibberish as scientific evidence for his god's existence? I see.

Well done.

About the last paragraph, I don't exist on Nairaland. Do you?

You exist on Nairaland forum as what? A thread? Or a post?

A001:

I don't exist on Nairaland. Do you?

You exist on Nairaland forum as what? A thread? Or a post?

Kindly Answer the question so that I can answer you.

what would you call 'scientific evidence" that you exist in nairaland?

Nothingserious:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

I thought you wanted to talk about each of the scientists.

[s]Lol!

Wannabe agnostic who doesn’t understand his worldview and cannot defend same.
I guess you are just an 16 year old who is still struggling with identity crisis.
[/s] Foolish rantings

This doesn't change the facts I highlighted about Christian Science.

Dtruthspeaker:


Kindly Answer the question so that I can answer you.

what would you call 'scientific evidence" that you exist in nairaland?

But I already told you I don't exist on Nairaland now. Which human exists on a website?

A001:

But I already told you I don't exist on Nairaland now. Which human exists on a website?

If you being here, can still Lie and Deny that you do not exist here, in spite of the evidence already on ground, simply because you do not want to give what you would call "scientific evidence" of your existence or nonexistence here, SURELY IT PROVES YOU ARE BEING YOU ALREADY KNOW END IS A FALL.

Then how is it possible for you to appreciate the scientific evidence of God which I could have brought here but you have deprived me of the opportunity?

Dtruthspeaker:


If you being here, can still Lie that you do not exist in spite of the evidence already on ground, simply because you do not want to give what you would call "scientific evidence" of your existence or nonexistence here, SURELY IT PROVES YOU ARE BEING YOU ALREADY KNOW END IS A FALL.

Do you know what's called existence at all? So you exist on Nairaland, meaning you sleep, eat, have sex, go to work, and do all other daily activities physically online here on Nairaland?

I know religionists like you're mentally ill anyway. Without coming to Nairaland, you stop existing?

A001:

Do you know what's called existence at all? So you exist on Nairaland, meaning you sleep, eat, have sex, go to work, and do all other daily activities physically online here on Nairaland?

So we who are called men do not exist here on nairaland simply because we do not sleep, eat etc here?

Explains a lot

A001:

I know religionists like you're mentally ill anyway. Without coming to Nairaland, you stop existing?

Now Attacking the man (Ad hominem) because you can not validly argue.