Complete is never in their dictionary
.naso ee keep recycling thieves every four years with nothing to show for it

Saverin:
"to" "will" "shall" "target"

Yeye people. When will they complete anything?

treesun:


https://punchng.com/nine-hydropower-projects-to-add-2672mw-to-national-grid-fg/

Story for the gods.Na so una dey talk, at the end, na generators go dey disturb somebody for night

theenchanter:
coal was agreed to be phased out by 2040 in the Paris agreement cos of it's carbon emissions that is harmful to the environment.

No country is building coal plants anymore.

China, India, South Africa, Poland, South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, Kazakhstan even our precious US of A, Germany, Ukraine will never abandon these cheap power source. Forget every campaign for greener friendly power plant. This just some kind of international politics. Accept what is ok for your country and reject what is not ok yours.

From kyoto protocol to the Paris agreement you and I know it's all about national interest first. Africa and Nigeria in particular are just pawn on the chess board of climate change.

theenchanter:
coal was agreed to be phased out by 2040 in the Paris agreement cos of it's carbon emissions that is harmful to the environment.

No country is building coal plants anymore.

Really. Go to china they are building. Even usa still have coal power plants. You think all these green energy power plants are cheaper than coal. Most nations can't afford it. Come 2040, they will shift it to 2080 then 2120.

History555:


Really. Go to china they are building. Even usa still have coal power plants. You think all these green energy power plants are cheaper than coal. Most nations can't afford it. Come 2040, they will shift it to 2080 then 2120.

I'm not disputing d fact that coal power stations are still around, what I'm staying is that it has been agreed to be phased out and no new coal power plants will be built according to WEF.

lexy2014:


How does this negate what he said?

You both don't understand the difference between generation and distribution.

This report is about power generation from hydro dam sources less than 3000mw.

Another report will talk about gas fired power plant ongoing about 2800mw in all

Dangote also talked about 12,000mw plant possible from his refinery.

We have 13,000mw available power ready to be deployed.

Siemens deal will make it possible to transmit and distribute up to 25,000mw by upgrading the current 5,000mw capacity

But your guy picked only planned hydrodam power generation of about 3000mw and compared to Siemens plan for upgrade of distribution and transmission to 25000mw and started shouting we have failed.

He ignores our current installed capacity, ongoing gas fired power projects and solar plants

That's how semi
-illiterates can be dangerous, reading letter upside down, telling folks their son in the city is sick when he should confess he doesn't understand the letter.

Your guy should be asking questions here not jumping to conclusions with quarter information.

I step at a time in the right direction

aspabay:
God Bless Nigeria, one step at a time, Nigeria will get there.

anyilalaz:
We keep on going from stupidity to mediocrity and back to front. All these project are cash cows were politicians loot the country. Most of these hydrodams are not utilized at optimum level more often during the drought and dry seasons. They hardly reach one-half its installed capacity even at highest water level.
All thses amount spent can be use to resuscitate the Oji River power plant in Enugu state and revamp it to up 6000MW capacity or perhaps build another one in Okaba, Ankpa Kogi State. These two areas has abundance deposit of coal.

Most of the powe stations in China, India, Pakistan etc run efficiently on coal with least capacity being around 5,000 MW.

But siting such gigantic project in the East is no no thing for the government because of their hatred for the region. Even the Kogi, being a minority. Below is some coal power plant in China..

Jonathan with Pius Anyim by his side for almost 6 years must have really hated the SE region, they could not start the 6000mw Oji River coal power plant. But their associates had enough cash to buy. $80m luxury yatch, $50m Miami flat and $10m diamond bra.

On another note I see no reason we should not go for one or two coal power plants to give us up to 10,000mw of state power supply

Why not build nuclear energy

treesun:


Come and borrow me yours!

Read above, small sense on loan without interest.

theenchanter:
I'm not disputing d fact that coal power stations are still around, what I'm staying is that it has been agreed to be phased out and no new coal power plants will be built according to WEF.

Bro shut up and go and read about modular nuclear reactors

theenchanter:
coal was agreed to be phased out by 2040 in the Paris agreement cos of it's carbon emissions that is harmful to the environment.

No country is building coal plants anymore.

There are still new coal power plants about to be built in both China and India. If we want base load reliable power badly enough, we can contact either countries to build us one.

Nobody can beat us for desiring electricity badly enough to go with coal. With 6000mw from coal we can be free from system collapse that happens once militants attack gas pipeline or the plant trips.

Ovamboland:


There are still new coal power plants about to be built in both China and India. If we want base load reliable power badly enough, we can contact either countries to build us one.

Nobody can beat us for desiring electricity badly enough to go with coal. With 6000mw from coal we can be free from system collapse that happens once militants attack gas pipeline or the plant trips.

agreed.

Ovamboland:


Jonathan with Pius Anyim by his side for almost 6 years must have really hated the SE region, they could not start the 6000mw Oji River coal power plant. But their associates had enough cash to buy. $80m luxury yatch, $50m Miami flat and $10m diamond bra.

Wicked politician... That is why we must have our PVC card to change this narrative. That a president comes from my village does not mean my village will turn to Eldorado. Look out all our past leaders and the place they came from. Even our own Buhari, see kastina see bandit, highest insecurities & killings.

Ovamboland:


You both don't understand the difference between generation and distribution.

This report is about power generation from hydro dam sources less than 3000mw.

Another report will talk about gas fired power plant ongoing about 2800mw in all

Dangote also talked about 12,000mw plant possible from his refinery.

We have 13,000mw available power ready to be deployed.

Siemens deal will make it possible to transmit and distribute up to 25,000mw by upgrading the current 5,000mw capacity

But your guy picked only planned hydrodam power generation of about 3000mw and compared to Siemens plan for upgrade of distribution and transmission to 25000mw and started shouting we have failed.

He ignores our current installed capacity, ongoing gas fired power projects and solar plants

That's how semi
-illiterates can be dangerous, reading letter upside down, telling folks their son in the city is sick when he should confess he doesn't understand the letter.

Your guy should be asking questions here not jumping to conclusions with quarter information.

We have 13,000mw available power ready to be deployed.

Does that means that the 3000mw to generated by these 9 dams will end up being idle like the 13000mw since u say transmission and generation capacity is just 5,000mw?

still no light

Meanwhile, dectective Fashola promised Nigerians 10,000 megawatts by December 2020 and even said that a serious government should fix power in six months.

History555:


Really. Go to china they are building. Even usa still have coal power plants. You think all these green energy power plants are cheaper than coal. Most nations can't afford it. Come 2040, they will shift it to 2080 then 2120.

They will keep our generation and the coming ones poor while they continue to grow rich burning coal while advising us against it.
Meanwhile our youths will continue to cross Sahara desert, swim and die in Mediterranean ocean to go and sweep floor in countries that grew rich while burning coal.

Ovamboland:


They will keep our generation and the coming ones poor while they continue to grow rich burning coal while advising us against it.
Meanwhile our youths will continue to cross Sahara desert, swim and die in Mediterranean ocean to go and sweep floor in countries that grew rich while burning coal.

At least life has meaning over there, even if you are illegal immigrants. What is your country offering than suffering and hardship, unless you are eating from the cookies jar!

You’re still asking how?

The post is talking about generation(power plant). You and your guy is mixing it up with transmission(Siemens)

They two different things.

For example
Generation is the same thing as production (of power). Transmission(Siemens) is the road by which the power produced will be transmitted(to be constructed by Siemens) to the distribution(IKEDC and co) who will now distribute it to the consumers(you and I)


FG is producing power
Siemens will construct the roads(transmission) to transport what FG has produced.


Presently we have roads(transmission) that can transport just less than 6000mw. Whereas we produce 13000mw. Siemens is to increase the roads from less than 6000mw to be able to carry 25000mw which is more than the 13000mw that we’re producing.

What this post is talking about is that nigeria wants add new 3000mw to the 13000mw we have already to make it 16000mw.

lexy2014:


How?

That is exactly what he’s saying
Presently we have about 9000-10,000mw that is idle because we don’t have the transmission(roads) capacity to deliver it to the users.

lexy2014:




Does that means that the 3000mw to generated by these 9 dams will end up being idle like the 13000mw since u say transmission and generation capacity is just 5,000mw?

Buh buh... But I thought they said generating is not the problem but Distribution? This leaders no dey play the tape they give us before?? Who be the mumu abi their mumu never do??

Ovamboland:


There are still new coal power plants about to be built in both China and India. If we want base load reliable power badly enough, we can contact either countries to build us one.

Nobody can beat us for desiring electricity badly enough to go with coal. With 6000mw from coal we can be free from system collapse that happens once militants attack gas pipeline or the plant trips.

Cheap power from mainly coal is what is bankrolling China and India economy. We all can see the effects on their manufacturing industry around the world. For we to remain relevant in the scheme of things, international trade, job creation, entrepreneurship, constant power, Nigeria need at least two power stations with minimum capacity of 5,000 MW each. Funny enough, we have abundant deposit of coal in Enugu, Okaba, etc

treesun:
How do we get to 25000MW by Siemens now!

Gas...

anyilalaz:


Wicked politician... That is why we must have our PVC card to change this narrative. That a president comes from my village does not mean my village will turn to Eldorado. Look out all our past leaders and the place they came from. Even our own Buhari, see kastina see bandit, highest insecurities & killings.

That's why we as citizens need to face real issues instead of all these talk of they hate our region that's why we don't have this and that.
If Jonathan were to be president today not a few people will say the banditry was sponsored by FG against the north. Now a northern president is on seat and there's insecurity in the north.
And even if Peter Obi wins presidency we will still complain of bad roads and no seaport after 8 years

jomoh:
You’re still asking how?

The post is talking about generation(power plant). You and your guy is mixing it up with transmission(Siemens)

They two different things.

For example
Generation is the same thing as production (of power). Transmission(Siemens) is the road by which the power produced will be transmitted(to be constructed by Siemens) to the distribution(IKEDC and co) who will now distribute it to the consumers(you and I)


FG is producing power
Siemens will construct the roads(transmission) to transport what FG has produced.


Presently we have roads(transmission) that can transport just less than 6000mw. Whereas we produce 13000mw. Siemens is to increase the roads from less than 6000mw to be able to carry 25000mw which is more than the 13000mw that we’re producing.

What this post is talking about is that nigeria wants add new 3000mw to the 13000mw we have already to make it 16000mw.


That is exactly what he’s saying
Presently we have about 9000-10,000mw that is idle because we don’t have the transmission(roads) capacity to deliver it to the users.

The person I responded to said 13000mw is idle. U are saying 9000 to 10000mw is idle.

The question I asked is simple. If d dams produce new 3000mw, will they now be sitting idle like the 13,000mw that is idle? Simple yes or no

lexy2014:




Does that means that the 3000mw to generated by these 9 dams will end up being idle like the 13000mw since u say transmission and generation capacity is just 5,000mw?

Exactly, now you are getting it. That's the main essence of the Siemens deal.

So that as Siemens is working on their own part of the system, we will be gradually increasing the 13,000mw available with the addition of 3000mw hydro, and other projects.

A time will come when we must start planning to increase the Siemens 25,000mw distribution capacity to 50,000mw so more investment can be attracted to the power generation sector.

Obasanjo $16b power investment focused on power generation sector with little attention paid to distribution.

treesun:


At least life has meaning over there, even if you are illegal immigrants. What is your country offering than suffering and hardship, unless you are eating from the cookies jar!

That's why we should burn coal if necessary so that our industries can have cheap reliable power like the rich countries so our youths can have enough respectable jobs without dieing in the desert while searching for jobs.

Just like we fought UK, Canada Saudi over travel ban, we should be able to surmount any obstacle to coal power if it's our best guarantee for stable power, no apologies about that. We lose too much to lack of stable power compared to the effect of one single power plant on the environment.

anyilalaz:


Cheap power from mainly coal is what is bankrolling China and India economy. We all can see the effects on their manufacturing industry around the world. For we to remain relevant in the scheme of things, international trade, job creation, entrepreneurship, constant power, Nigeria need at least two power stations with minimum capacity of 5,000 MW each. Funny enough, we have abundant deposit of coal in Enugu, Okaba, etc

You are 100% correct

lexy2014:


The person I responded to said 13000mw is idle. U are saying 9000 to 10000mw is idle.

The question I asked is simple. If d dams produce new 3000mw, will they now be sitting idle like the 13,000mw that is idle? Simple yes or no

Oh Lord!

We have presently about 13,000mw available generation capacity out of which we can only transmit by grid and distribute only 4-5000mw max without suffering grid collapse.

The hydrodam project in this report will add almost 3000mw to make our total capacity for power generation to 16,000mw.

I didn't mean the entire 13,000mw we have today is idle

Ovamboland:


That's why we should burn coal if necessary so that our industries can have cheap reliable power like the rich countries so our youths can have enough respectable jobs without dieing in the desert while searching for jobs.

Just like we fought UK, Canada Saudi over travel ban, we should be able to surmount any obstacle to coal power if it's our best guarantee for stable power, no apologies about that. We lose too much to lack of stable power compared to the effect of one single power plant on the environment.

I know your type!

FG should remove power generation from the exclusive list. States should be allowed to generate their own power and the excess sold to the national grid.

treesun:


https://punchng.com/nine-hydropower-projects-to-add-2672mw-to-national-grid-fg/

Even if Nigeria has a hundred times there will be no electricity the government built dams in the middle of the Desert where there is no water. Look at mambilla power station since the 1980s Nigeria has tried building this damn only for it to be reduced from 3,000 megawatts to less than 500 megawatts. And now at 500 m what there is still no water to fill the reservoir. This is the northern illiteracy if you look at Lake Chad Lake Chad is 80% empty from 20 years ago there is no water in the north of Nigeria we are still building dams in the North