Rosement:

Guy, I did not ask you for your personal opinion, do you expect me to be concerned about everybody's beliefs and opinions? Even children have their own personal beliefs and opinions. There is freedom of belief so you are entitled to your own beliefs and others are also entitled to their people. Just try to be responsible and understand.

If I am practicing jw's doctrine instead of my Christian doctrine, how am I a Christian? Christian doctrine is for Christians, anybody that wants to practice jw's doctrine should simply convert. It is not by force, you cannot force people to accept your belief and doctrine by criticising their doctrines. If you need converts so badly, then preach about your religion. You cannot change the Christian doctrine by criticising it, you are just wasting your time. Don't expect me to argue my doctrine with you, I don't participate in pointless arguments.
(Titus 3:9) But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Do have a nice day!

cornelboy:
(Titus 3:9) But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
My dear can i ask wise questions?
°The bible, does it teach different beliefs or just one Truth?
°Why is there so many different beliefs today?
°Which of the christian organization beliefs aligns with the Bible?
°Should there be different beliefs among churches?

Incase you don't know, Jehovah witnesses are christians.

Rosement:
What is the point of creating this thread? jw members are allowed to practice their doctrine in peace, please don't involve us, this is really none of our business.

When we eat or drink blood, it goes from our mouth to our digestive system but when we receive blood through transfusions it goes through our veins to the systems in the body that needs it. We cannot live without blood in our body but we can live without eating or drinking blood. Jesus was even always encouraging us to save lives.

God doesn't get angry when people take logical actions to save lives or help others. God blessed the mid-wives after they lied to their king to save the Hebrew baby boys including Moses. Why did He not punish them for lying. Could they not have rejected the assignment and allowed the king give the assignment to someone else instead of lying?

As a Christian, I know Jesus has explained severally that Christianity is not a tradition or a culture, if you want to follow Jesus genuinely, you have to understand that He placed Love above the law.
(Matthew 22:36-40)
36. Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38. This is the first and great commandment.
39. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Bible explained to us in several verses that the law is the knowledge of sin and the law was only created to guide us and make us conscious of sin, it was not created to box us or make us inconvenient.
(Romans 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Exodus 20:8 (Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy)
Have you forgotten what Jesus said to justify His disciples when they violated the fourth Commandment?
(Mark 2:24-27)
24. And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
25. And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
26. How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
27. And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

If the law is more important to Jesus than Love and kindness, why did He not try to protect the law, why did He support the breaking of the law for the purpose of Love and kindness instead?
Jesus could have said that God did not make it compulsory for people to fast on the Sabbath day, so striving for food or eating on the Sabbath day, should not be considered a sin but instead He explained that Love is greater and our convenience matters more than the laws. The disciples were hungry and they needed to satisfy their tummy but the pharisees preferred to see a man die of starvation than to see him break the law. They couldn't understand that being kind-hearted matters a lot than keeping the law. Jesus replies whenever the pharisees accuse Him or His disciples always explains that God cares more about the intention than the act.

We should always try to keep the law because it is a sin to violate the law but there are certain situations where we have to ignore the law especially when it is trying to stop us for showing love to our neighbours. If you are a Christian and you want to obey Jesus completely, just Love your neighbours, stop being traditional or cultural.
Matthew 25: 35-46
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, according to Jesus Christ, it isn't the sex that is sin but instead the lust in the heart after a woman - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28

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Rosement:
Laws in the Bible can be divided into civil, ritual and moral laws. The New testament did not instruct us to comply with the civil laws and ritual laws. If we want to claim salvation by works and not by grace, then we should still consider ourselves unsaved because we have not done any works and there are several laws in the old testament that we have not been observing.

Most laws in the old testament were specifically written for Israel in the time when rituals was compulsory, they are not meant for us, so it is not a sin to ignore the them.

Civil - means not military or religious, relating to the ordinary people of a country or relating to citizens of a country: Civil laws differs by country, every country have their own civil laws, so the Israel civil laws recorded in the old testament was not extended to us because the Church is not the physical Israel nation and it is made up of people from different nations.

Ritual is a sequence of activities involving gestures, words, actions, or objects, performed according to a set sequence. Ritual laws are no longer valid because Jesus has paid the price for them by sacrificing His own life.

Moral laws are laws that can guide our morals. The ten Commandments are made up of moral laws, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, etc.

Not all laws in the Bible are meant for us, like the law in Leviticus 19:27, Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

tctrills:
Sorry seems I did not read it right. The cornelboy got himself trapped in some funny doctrine

cornelboy:
(Titus 3:9) But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
My dear can i ask wise questions?
1. The bible, does it teach different beliefs or just one Truth?
2. °Why is there so many different beliefs today?
3. °Which of the christian organization beliefs aligns with the Bible?
4. °Should there be different beliefs among churches?
Incase you don't know, Jehovah witnesses are christians.

achorladey:




that's what you get when you decide to spy on people's freedom with your DOS AND DON'T LEGALISMS not captured in the scripture.

So it is what it is.

Mature food belongs to those who have trained their minds to distinguish distinguish good from evil.

Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.

Point of application, do you how many fractions, components that have been allowed or accepted, later banned after sometime again accepted, later banned e.t.c. That's how members get tossed up and down like infant on blood matter and masturbation too since the power to decide those policies didn't rest with them and their power to distinguish right and wrong taken away. They remain babes that need milk.

Kids don't have mature minds to know the length and breadth of the issue under discussion here. No be seresere matter Oga. Learn.

You that don't know the policies concerning blood employed by the religious organisations. You doing copy and paste for is telling me I am wasting your time



Last time I checked the Bible you carry, you are not the one giving out spirit to those who seek it. You are limited in knowing how the spirit works Letter kills, spirit gives life


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You see me carry Jehovah's witnesses problem come your house to discuss or I tell you one before? Face discussion, I said it earlier when you come to platform like this post and comments get scrutinized.



When a person believe God is three person will that remove the simple command to Love God and Neighbour?



See your words would be abominable to God in your case. It will be difficult to say is abominable to God without support from the scripture since it is still transfusion we are still discussing here.



Even panadol instructions get side effects. Has the side effects ever stopped you from taking panadol? Oga go look for the numerous person blood transfusion too don help. People wey no do blood transfusion are not immune from getting HIV/AIDS. The high rate of HIV/AIDS is not only by blood transfusion. Reason am Oga cornelboy.



It is foolish question because there are no room for you to manoeuvre. The question on that common denominator still dey there for you to ponder.

cornelboy:
Abeg make person help me o.

1. What Jesus meant was that, if you looked at a woman lustfully you have already committed the adultery. How much more having sexual intercourse with her?

Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! Jesus Christ never said nor hinted at any of the part in bold. See, how easy it is to make up a lie? By thinking yourself clever you attempt there to add your own wisdom to what God said, thereby changing that which God decreed and making up a lie.

What He said was the lust in your heart after a woman is registered as sin. Nowhere else did Jesus Christ suggest sex as sin - None!

cornelboy:
What's adultery and fornication?

cornelboy:
Look out for my next thread Trinity
Yeah it's true the first post was copied.

Kobojunkie:
As Jesus Christ told you , lust in your heart after a woman is adultery - this He clearly explained in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 is in no way similar to the Old Covenant definition of the word.

Fornication is not listed as a sin by Jesus Christ. Instead it is listed as the only valid reason given by which a divorce can be obtained by a one who is a follower - Matthew 19 vs 5 - 10.

cornelboy:
Cornelboy go soon popular like burnaboy
I'm not trapped

cornelboy:
(Titus 3:9) But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
My dear can i ask wise questions?
°The bible, does it teach different beliefs or just one Truth?
°Why is there so many different beliefs today?
°Which of the christian organization beliefs aligns with the Bible?
°Should there be different beliefs among churches?

Incase you don't know, Jehovah witnesses are christians.

The kind of joy i had after being in the truth couldn't be compared to none.
John 8:32

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain

Which of the christian organization beliefs aligns with the Bible?

Why is there so many different beliefs today?

achorladey:


AS you continue your quest to create a thread about TRINITY be ready for the response you will get.

You won't be the first to create such a thread, you won't be the last. Trinity thread is one of the most hot thread here on nairaland religion section. Enjoy all the post and response you will get.

Kobojunkie Achorladey:
As Jesus Christ told you , lust in your heart after a woman is adultery - this He clearly explained in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 is in no way similar to the Old Covenant definition of the word.

Fornication is not listed as a sin by Jesus Christ. Instead it is listed as the only valid reason given by which a divorce can be obtained by a one who is a follower - Matthew 19 vs 5 - 10.

achorladey:


Here you are Jan 19 2022 @ 8:30 pm....




When you say "after being in the truth" what does this mean? What truth are you talking about here?

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You no fit understand bro. While growing up Trinity was a confusion to me. Didn't align with every verse of the Bible and i know say bible suppose no de contradict itself




Here you are contending and striving about the laws on blood and trying to fuse blood transfusion into what is not present in that law.

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We were both contending or whatever. It's hypocritic when you exempt yourself




There is nothing like Christian organization as set up today in the Bible in the first place. Jesus words and his disciples didn't write to Christian organisations as set up today.

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We have lot christian denominations anyhow sha



Matthew 24: 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ(anointed); and shall deceive many.

Many will come and tell you we are the ones Jesus ANOINTED and added that should you fail to eat the imperfect spiritual food they dish out or listen to them, you cannot walk or be on the path/road to EVERLASTING life. Ask the Governing Body of the religious organization you are bringing their doctrines to this platform. They will tell more.

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Eternal life is a free gift from God, we don't work for it. But we have to know and believe in both the one only true God and Jesus Christ His son. John 17:3.
We have to try our every effort to live a righteous life that pleases the Father.

Matthew 7 also dey your Bible read am. You suppose understand.

tctrills:
I wish you success in your quest for popularity. But then I hope you see the danger of an incomplete teaching. A doctrine that cant stand facts and science. the JW won't take blood but they take plasma derived from blood, and refuse red blood cells also derived from blood

achorladey:


AS you continue your quest to create a thread about TRINITY be ready for the response you will get.

You won't be the first to create such a thread, you won't be the last. Trinity thread is one of the most hot thread here on nairaland religion section. Enjoy all the post and response you will get.

cornelboy:

Make i check am

We were both contending or whatever. It's hypocritic when you exempt yourself

cornelboy:

Cornelboy go soon popular like burnaboy
I'm not trapped

cornelboy:
I created one na 2020. You suppose know the thread sef. Maximus said you were Apostate.

Maximus said you were Apostate

MaxInDHouse:


I wish you could have the time to go through what they did to Rozz the girl that said she's beginning to agree with Jehovah's Witnesses on their teachings against trinity, then you will know what crime you've committed for taking side with the JWs!

They will all come with different tactics against you all in a bid to condemn the doctrine you're trying to uphold but when you try to figure out what each of them believes as doctrine that the time they will tell you "here i'm just catching fun on Nairaland"
Yet they will spend the next two weeks arguing to turn your mind against God's people!

"here i'm just catching fun on Nairaland"

cornelboy:
Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

cornelboy:
It won't be like other threads
Wait o which church you belong sef?
I think it would be fair if i knew.

Wait o which church you belong sef?

I think it would be fair if i knew.

cornelboy:
Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

cornelboy:
I created one na 2020. You suppose know the thread sef. Maximus said you were Apostate.

cornelboy:

Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

tctrills:
I must commend you though, you are one of the few good men here. You have not been disrespectful even when we disagree. I hope it continues like that because I am sure we would disagree much more in the future.

cornelboy:

Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

tctrills:
Sorry seems I did not read it right. The cornelboy got himself trapped in some funny doctrine

MaxInDHouse:
Despite the fact that Jesus of Nazareth knew a lot has gone wrong with Judaism he still told the Samaritan woman that until the new form of worship is firmly established the true God is on the side of the Jews:

The woman said to him: “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. John 4:19-22

So whoever failed to present the only form of worship approved by God is deceiving himself.
Jesus knew that there's a lot wrong in Judaism yet he still confirmed that until pure worship is restructured the Jews remains the custodians of pure worship!

Samaritan woman that until the new form of worship is firmly established the true God is on the side of the Jews

same Samaritan woman worship is no longer confined to a set of people or place or building or a religious organization

So whoever failed to present the only form of worship approved by God is deceiving himself.

Jesus knew that there's a lot wrong in Judaism yet he still confirmed that until pure worship is restructured the Jews remains the custodians of pure worship!

MaxInDHouse:

Be careful of this person!

He is full of deceit just like other faithless miscreants around you, he will subtly come to you like a sheep but when you carefully watch his actions you will find out that he has no faith at all. He's just out there to attack anyone having real faith.
Don't forget the question you asked him last:

Because he wants to dodge that question that's why he is now pretending to be nice.
Is he not the same person who typed the comment below?

So let him tell you the name of his Church after all you have declared your intention that you've chosen the JW doctrine as a open-minded person so let anyone coming to question you on this also declare the doctrine that's complete. Nobody sits on the fence and keeps blaming others for their choice!