Kobojunkie:
So, you are insinuating Paul knows better than Jesus Christ, the one who told you in John 5 vs 41 that He does not desire praise from Humans, this the same Jesus Christ who told you in John 15 vs 14 that His friends are those who do what He says.

And if you had bothered to read Luke 19 vs 37-39 carefully, you wouldn't have introduced that verse in here since it does not in fact state that Jesus Christ asked the people to do anything, nor does it state that His disciples joined the people in singing praises of Jesus Christ.

AABBIIMM:
Didn't you read that it's the WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THE DISCIPLES that joined in the praises? Luke 19:37 KJV And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, THE WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THE DISCIPLES began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;

The reply of Jesus to Pharisees like you telling them to keep quiet is a nail to the matter. Luke 19:40 KJV
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, IF THESE SHOULD HOLD THEIR PEACE, THE STONES WOULD IMMEDIATELY CRY OUT.
I hope you know the meaning of that. Stones will immediately cry out. Note the word immediately o.
So, you know that He deserves the PRAISES.
LET SOMEBODY GIVE GOD THE LOUDEST PRAISE.
THANK YOU JESUS
HALLELUJAH
PRAISE THE LORD
BLESSED BE THE LORD MY GOD
JESUS BE PRAISED
Feel free to add yours

Kobojunkie:
The passage in Luke 19 is a fulfillment of prophesy given from Old of what would take place when Jesus Christ enters into Jerusalem and true to Word, the prophecy was fulfilled just as God said it would. And yes, if the people had not done it, God would have raised rocks and stones to sing in order that it be fulfilled.

Now back to Jesus Christ, the one who explained to you that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 - and also that those who are His friends are those who do as He asks of them - John 15 vs 14 - , we know that Jesus Christ did not command the people to sing praises to Him. This because Jesus Christ taught His disciples that He does not desire praise from Humans - John 5 vs 41. So praising Him in no way honors Him since the only thing that does is instead obedience of His commandments and teachings.

Unless ofcourse you believe instead that Jesus Christ is a liar.

AABBIIMM:
Stop getting out of context. I know the exegesis and hermeneutics of that scriptural text.
However, were dealing with the context here.
I'm done talking with you on this.
Don't interrupt my praises.

AABBIIMM:
*Stop getting out of context.....

Kobojunkie:
What makes you think, as a Kumuyi insider, that his definition of holiness is of Jesus Christ to begin with?

Rhymeyjohn:


Wow! Such brilliant argument, or rather exposition.

Image123, my co-debator on tithe about 9 years ago. Good too see you going on

Oluvan:
He preaches righteousness through faith in Christ and Sanctification through Christ and the Holy Spirit.... "and if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature old things are passed away behold all things are be come new" and if the root is holy, so also are the branches".

The above implies that those who identify with Christ are saints and holy nations and no longer sinners. You cannot continue in sin and say grace should abound, GOD FORBID!
THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE PREACH: JESUS ONLY, JESUS EVER....

rikithor:

If selfishness meant what you chose obey in God's word, while others should also select what they want to obey.
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Oluvan:


He preaches righteousness through faith in Christ and Sanctification through Christ and the Holy Spirit.... "and if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature old things are passed away behold all things are be come new" and if the root is holy, so also are the branches".

The above implies that those who identify with Christ are saints and holy nations and no longer sinners. You cannot continue in sin and say grace should abound, GOD FORBID!

THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE PREACH: JESUS ONLY, JESUS EVER....

pegix:



Lols ..oga mi

Im afraid u wrong sir
As per music and other....they might have made a bit mistake but not tongues issues

Imagine a congregation , everybody blasting intongues

A new member or a visitor can understand what that saying then to what glorification does it serves

" If one speak, the other should be silent, "
" If one is silent the other should speak and and interpretation should be greatly desired for edification"

Not blasting as if na war in church
In ur private corridors i see no issue

And concerning people falling down , rolling and trembling

All those things e dey happen wella o

Kai....ah....abi u no attend some churches b4

Basicend:


You guys are just religious and that's it.

Why must he use deeper life choir and hyms all the time. . Are deeper life choir members from heaven and completely sinless? Be deceiving yourselves.

Those guys you are criticizing and calling worldly are anointed and have done many great things for God and his kingdom. Wake up from your sleep of carnality.

How has Kumuyi trespassed?

Lighthouse50:
I was shocked too to see Nathaniel bassey in their crusade handbill and was over shocked when kumuyi addressed him as evangelist bassey on the crusage ground when hymns could have been sung by the glorious choir of the church. Nathaniel bassey is not a member. Why rate him above church choir? I see publicity sake

philipstanley:


I have always admired your comments but this very one am disappointed.

We must kill religion before religion kills us

So Kumuyi cannot invite a gospel singer just because he/she is not from DLBC or doesn't share similar views to your doctrines.

I can remember vividly when Kumuyi came to my state and he invited Panam Pacy Paul and others to be sincere it was a great crusade.

We should be careful on how we definitely holiness and righteous

Shalom!

BennyDGreat:


What's the old way?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments are God's unchanging Truth for eternity.

Kumuyi preaches all these things yet his doctrines and traditions have changed several times in the last 40 years. Are you certain any of what you claim He teaches even aligns with Jesus Christ's unchanging Word to us?

pegix:
how is gospel music from gifted nigerian a trending stuff sir

Okay ..those musics in our GHZ were largely composed in late ,19th

If there were composed .. what do we listen to?


Below are the 22 doctrine of the church

Tell me from which angle the faith being impaired

oloriooko:
In what way?
Infact all songs b4 now have been declared 'worldly' by the pastor, only the new songs coming out now are deemed 'spiritual'
All the singers 'raised' by the pastor are no longer recognised and their songs are gradually being erased
Its such an irony what's happening in churches today

IpobAntidote:
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[s]Mpkuru mirri and cannibalism is a dangerous combination. Say no to drugs. Anyone in their right sense wouldn't ask such asinine question. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that they do not play music or bands for hours in any Mosque.
Only an individual on Mkpuru mirri will ask such shallow, very low IQ jelly fish brain question.

Pls find someone on your shallow level to argue with.

BYE[/s]

Image123:


Small advice. Better avoid koboko, he lives for aimless arguments. Number your days and hours wisely.

Gospel2Day:


Those 17th century hymns you so much despise, etc.
I am not a Deeper Lifer than but Pastor Kumuyi is my mentor. I was shocked and surprised too when I saw online that Dunsin Oyekan was going to minister in Deeper Life. Very strange.
There is nothing wrong in listening to his music online, but to bring a singer whose backups are mostly women who are worldly in appearance is to undermine and undo all that Deeper Life has stood against for decades.
Shalom.

guywitzerogal:
just stick to your own beliefs, i was born and i grew up in deeper life, after denying myself all this year to some music you can't introduce it now..... It's wrong

omoolokunEsin:


Nowhere in that piece did he mention hell fire and you know it! Don't twist things up, please.

Righteousness2:
Brother, as a young man born in Deeper life Bible Church in the Early 80's and Grommed in DLBC until 2004 when I moved to the The Lords Chosen, I must say you have a very Valid Protest!

I Perceive GOD is using you to Pass a Very Strong Message to HIS Church and HIS servant. The ways of GOD ALMIGHTY are not the ways of Men.
The ALMIGHTY HOLY GOD will not change HIS Standard because of a Changing World.

I was born in watchman and my family also joined Lord’s chosen from day 1 chosen started at Ilasamaja till today, I’m also a relative to the G.O. My point is, this protest is based on emotions and sentiments. There’s totally nothing wrong so far with the Deeper life church. Doctrines doesn’t take one to heaven.

I Pray HIS Servant and one of the Core Holiness Apostles and Generals of this Generation, Pastor WF Kumuyi takes note of this Peaceful Protest.

IpobAntidote:
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Omo ale, omo eran, ode, omogu, ode dindinri. Se them dey play music for Mosque ni?
Baba n la baba ni Coward. IF they do, they will get the same treatment.
Say no to cannibalism and Mkpuru mirri.

Oluvan:
The assembly of God's people is an ordered atmosphere and each denomination has its own principle of Church Administration. Call it doctrine, call it tradition, I don't care. You show me a church without one and I will show their degree of disorderliness.

You faithfully abide by the corporate culture and values in your place of works because of the unrighteous mammon, the you want the House of God to be without order.

All scripture is profitable for doctrine and instructions in righteousness for the perfecting of the saints.

There is are doctrines according to godliness...

1 Timothy 6:3-5 KJV
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; [4] He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, [5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

BennyDGreat:


Lol
I despise hymns?
Do you know me ni?

The Bible tells us test every spirit.
Test the spirit by which Dunsin Oyekan operates under.

Also, what's worldly appearance according to you?
I would appreciate clarification on this sir.
I need to learn