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Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by coogar: 4:27pm On Jun 28, 2011
mayofab:

I think you and the poster both have a point. when it comes to hard work and given information then Nigeria's standards are high cuz im in college in the US and all the stuff i did in year one, where my secondary school stuvs. And here in the US nigerian students that is the ones coming straight from naija are considered some of the brightests, in fact once you tell a teacher you are from Nigeria he expects only top grades from you, but when it comes to exposure to new technology and new ideas then they have the upper hand.

and i am saying the exposure to new technology, new tools and new ideas are all parts of quality education. if the knowledge is obsolete then it cannot qualify as standard education neither will it qualify as quality education. all we know in nigeria is theory. the curriculum in the top universities have not changed since the schools were established in the 60s. the education system in nigeria needs to be revamped completely.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by DisGuy: 4:43pm On Jun 28, 2011
fxtopedia:

I make bold to say the STANDARD OF EDUCATION is high in Nigeria. It is the QUALITY OF EDUCATION that is low.

For us to appreciate this, let us distinguish between the two,

We have a HIGH standard of Low Quality Education?
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by DisGuy: 4:46pm On Jun 28, 2011
Apart from the sciences, mathematics how are Nigerian students doing in areas outside of these courses in Foreign universities?
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by cuteonyii(m): 4:48pm On Jun 28, 2011
STANDARD IS GOOD BUT SYSTEM IS CORRUPT

MY HND IS EVALUATED TO BE EQUIVALENT TO BSC IN USA.

AM DOING MY MASTERS WITH THAT.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by AjanleKoko: 4:52pm On Jun 28, 2011
Dis Guy:

Apart from the sciences, mathematics how are Nigerian students doing in areas outside of these courses in Foreign universities?


I think Nigerians studying legitimately in good schools are doing well, relatively. Despite the fact that we don't have the good foundation, all of us have a desire to do well. But let's not use the performance of the students to judge the quality of Nigerian education. It was good in the past, when other African students used to come to Naija for university education, but not anymore. Those guys from Ghana and Cameroun aren't coming to Naija anymore.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Nayah(f): 5:14pm On Jun 28, 2011
Africans school do really have very good teachers and educated but their system are still quite lower than the average
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by occam(m): 5:58pm On Jun 28, 2011
Dis Guy:

We have a HIGH standard of Low Quality Education?
Dis Guy:

We have a HIGH standard of Low Quality Education?

Please stop splitting hairs and stick to the facts.

Facts: Millions of Nigerian kids do not have access to quality education (or none at all). How do you account for the high failure rates in JAMB & GCE exams? Visit any village in any part of Nigeria and you'll change your mind about the high standards. Yes, you may have attended one of the few good schools in Nigeria, but too many kids are being denied this right. Let's accept this and discuss how to reduce classroom size, improve teacher training, increase science labs, books etc

Given the choice will you send your child to Public School in Kogi state or Liverpool UK?
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Beowulf(m): 6:02pm On Jun 28, 2011
OP, I appreciate your patriotism but you are way off the mark. There is no basis for comparison at all. When I schooled in Nigeria I was a rote-master. That is one basic problem with our education-the focus on rote learning rather than applied learning. Let us not even broach the dismal lack of facilities, equipment and materials needed for our science courses.

I got a reality check when I came to the US for my masters. The quality of the lecturers, the syllabi,  the lectures and overall interaction left me gaping in awe. The lecturers were renowned leaders in their fields who were constantly pushing themselves everyday to stay on top of their game. Coming to the issue of open book exams, nothing could be more deceptive. In all honestly, I preferred closed book exams to open book exams. I thought I was going to ace all my courses because 90% of the exams I sat were open books but that was another shocker. I have never seen that many number of B's on a transcript than I have on mine. I was brought hurtling down to earth. Our educational system needs complete retooling to bring it anywhere near decent standard.

Regarding Nigerians that excel in foreign schools after having their formative years of education in Nigeria, most of them have always been exceptional right from the outset in Nigeria. I look at my friends who have excelled in their studies here and I see folks who were very serious -minded from way back. These guys always went the extra mile back home in Nigeria when their mates where just content to read the tepid handouts the lecturers circulated just to pass the exam. It is this drive that has helped them to adapt and excel more than anything else.

In any event, I am sure that the number of elitist schools growing in Nigeria is trying to bridge this gap even though it is still designed for the benefits of the privileged few.

PS: Who knows the last time we had any form of syllabus review in any discipline whatsoever in Nigeria?
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by werepeLeri: 6:54pm On Jun 28, 2011
Why are people sending their kids back to Nigeria to study? LOL.

Because they dont want to spend much money or because they are mad, crazy and un informed?

I am not sure if these people commenting have experienced the two systems. I have experienced the two systems and I make bold to say, the education standard in Nigeria is High. If you dont beleive or think it is false, then, you need to jump into the sea and be forgotten.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by AjanleKoko: 7:13pm On Jun 28, 2011
werepeLeri:

Why are people sending their kids back to Nigeria to study? LOL.

Because they dont want to spend much money or because they are mad, crazy and un informed?

I am not sure if these people commenting have experienced the two systems. I have experienced the two systems and I make bold to say, the education standard in Nigeria is High. If you dont beleive or think it is false, then, you need to jump into the sea and be forgotten.

Which people are sending their kids back to Nigeria? Must be only people you know.
Maybe there's something else wrong with those kids. Anyways, feel free to continue with the delusion.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Gbenge77(m): 8:10pm On Jun 28, 2011
Beowulf:

OP, I appreciate your patriotism but you are way off the mark. There is no basis for comparison at all. When I schooled in Nigeria I was a rote-master. That is one basic problem with our education-the focus on rote learning rather than applied learning. Let us not even broach the dismal lack of facilities, equipment and materials needed for our science courses.

I got a reality check when I came to the US for my masters. The quality of the lecturers, the syllabi,  the lectures and overall interaction left me gaping in awe. The lecturers were renowned leaders in their fields who were constantly pushing themselves everyday to stay on top of their game. Coming to the issue of open book exams, nothing could be more deceptive. In all honestly, I preferred closed book exams to open book exams. I thought I was going to ace all my courses because 90% of the exams I sat were open books but that was another shocker. I have never seen that many number of B's on a transcript than I have on mine. I was brought hurtling down to earth. Our educational system needs complete retooling to bring it anywhere near decent standard.

Regarding Nigerians that excel in foreign schools after having their formative years of education in Nigeria, most of them have always been exceptional right from the outset in Nigeria. I look at my friends who have excelled in their studies here and I see folks who were very serious -minded from way back. These guys always went the extra mile back home in Nigeria when their mates where just content to read the tepid handouts the lecturers circulated just to pass the exam. It is this drive that has helped them to adapt and excel more than anything else.

In any event, I am sure that the number of elitist schools growing in Nigeria is trying to bridge this gap even though it is still designed for the benefits of the privileged few.

PS: Who knows the last time we had any form of syllabus review in any discipline whatsoever in Nigeria?
spot on.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 8:27pm On Jun 28, 2011
[b]@irabigile very nice sarcasm I must commend but at the end of the day you ended up making a big fool out of your self, its one thing to read and its a different thing all together to comprehend, clearly you read my post but didn't comprehend, where did I say education standards in the us is low? where did i say it was wrong for one to study abroad. please next time comprehend before you make a foolish statement, since you cannot comprehend I will help you, me saying I don't think our educational standard is low don't mean its higher than the us standards, please don't misunderstand me, My point is if we here can cope very well when we go there and sometimes even be the best there I don't think out edu standards are low. A graduate is suppose to know more than a primary 5 pupil, what then will you say when the primary five pupil beats the graduate in a test? undecided wouldn't it make you wonder?, same way I'm have wondered and I don't think our educational standards are low. sure the number of schools here with facilities do not outnumber those without and that's out problem. [/b]
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 8:32pm On Jun 28, 2011
@camaldina, i disagree with you on your astement that in Naija one man teaches all, In my school we had more than four math teacher, they had a way of circulating them yearly so if you wren't down with one you could easliy go to another ine, same thing goes for
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by werepeLeri: 8:33pm On Jun 28, 2011
AjanleKoko:

Which people are sending their kids back to Nigeria? Must be only people you know.
Maybe there's something else wrong with those kids. Anyways, feel free to continue with the delusion.

Same to you.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 8:36pm On Jun 28, 2011
^huh i haven't finished yet

same thing goes for English and for the rest subjects we had at least two to three teachers the only subject which we had only one teacher was in Food and nut and that was because very few people were interested in it, and this was just for the senior secondary not the whole school, so there were so many teachers.  
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 8:55pm On Jun 28, 2011
@ Beowulf , I'm not trying to compare them please you guys should not misunderstand me, I'm not saying we are better than the us, or people shouldn't go there to study that will be ridiculous,  my point is If students from ''low standard'' go abroad and perform better than those who have been receiving ''high standard'' of Education, while on the other hand students with the ''high standard'' cannot cope with a ''low standard'' students, then the question is, is our standard really low? I think not, we are all here to learn, and we won't stop learning  till we're dead, This is just what I felt so I wanted to see peoples view on it, we learn everyday, so I am not an exception, I'm very open to new ideas  
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 8:56pm On Jun 28, 2011
@ Orinkila, thanks
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by femmy2010(m): 9:00pm On Jun 28, 2011
Natasha,,:

@ Beowulf , I'm not trying to compare them please you guys should not misunderstand me, I'm not saying we are better than the us, or people shouldn't go there to study that will be ridiculous,  my point is If students from ''low standard'' go abroad and perform better than those who have been receiving ''high standard'' of Education, while on the other hand students with the ''high standard'' cannot cope with a ''low standard'' students, then the question is, is our standard really low? I think not, we are all here to learn, and we won't stop learning  till we're dead, This is just what I felt so I wanted to see peoples view on it, we learn everyday, so I am not an exception, I'm very open to new ideas  

What others are simply saying is that,the general standard use to be higher than what is obtainable now.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 9:04pm On Jun 28, 2011
quote from Odaiero
« #37 on: Today at 10:23:38 AM »
Natasha don fall my hand finish for posting this, how on Earth will any one from this Earth open his/her mouth and say Education Standard in Nigerian is high? No bedroom love for you for the rest of the year
lolz why na It was just what I felt as to what I have noticed na we are all free to learn cheesy and I did not open my mouth to say it I typed it lol grin
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 9:06pm On Jun 28, 2011
femmy2010:

What others are simply saying is that,the general standard use to be higher than what is obtainable now.

okay sir I have heard you cheesy Thanks for your contributions
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 10:49pm On Jun 28, 2011
@ orinkla my younger sis attends that school, the Cedar Court British Int. That woman loves money I tell you, but she's trying anways I would definitely commend her in as mush as she likes doing too much every time, the school meets up international standards. cheesy
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by fxtopedia(m): 10:54pm On Jun 28, 2011
Dis Guy:

We have a HIGH standard of Low Quality Education?

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Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Nija4Life(m): 11:59pm On Jun 28, 2011
First let me thank the poster for opening this thread, because education in Nigeria is an issue very close to my heart. However, I'm going to have to disagree that standard of education in Nigeria is high unless it was a poor attempt to sarcasm.

Anyone who thinks the standard of education in Nigeria is even remotely adequate let alone high, is either naively patriotic or living in denial or even both. The sad reality is that our education system has reached a state of emergency if we don't act now.

Having read all previous posts on here, the common theme with some of them seem to be the fact that since our students do well when they study abroad then surely the educational system in Nigeria should be high in standard. However, what we fail to understand is that individual ability which is a consequence of intelligence is not necessarily a product of an outcome of a good educational system.  First let’s define intelligence, which in simple terms is the ability of the brain to process information quickly. Different factors contribute to intelligence of an individual; they include genetics, working memory, environment, motivation etc. As a people we are never lacking in motivation but this is heightened when we move into an environment that is very conducive for learning in comparison to what we have always been used to. This in itself brings the best out of us and that could explain why we excel when we come over to the west to study.

You can measure standard of education in the following ways and I speak from personal experience having been educated up to university level in Nigeria; also from the point of view of someone that has undergone and still undergoing post-graduate education, currently doing an MA dissertation and I also speak from the point of view of an educational professional here in the UK.

A good standard education can only be achieved with huge investment; there are no hard and fast rules about it. Education anywhere in the world is expensive to run and maintain; high quality education means even more money but we spend more in paying our legislators than we spend in educating our children, a scandal if you ask me.

Secondly, high quality education is synonymous with high quality teaching and learning. You can only get high quality teachers by being able to attract the best brains to the teaching profession through competitive remuneration and a rigorous and high quality teacher training programme with a good complement of educational theory and practice. Sadly in Nigeria the teaching profession is not very attractive as a career because of historical poor pay and trainee teachers suffer from the negative perception as people who ended up in Colleges of Education because they weren’t intelligent enough to go to university. The way teachers are currently trained is shambolic with too much emphasis on theory and less time spent in the classroom to observe other professionals and to horn and develop their skills.

The other point to consider is the fact that a good educational system is driven by good and adequate educational policy. This is an area which we don’t seem to do badly, going back to the days of 6-3-3-4 to the current Universal Basic Education. However, money meant for its implementation is at the centre of alleged misuse or diversion by the Director of the Commission and also the alleged misuse or misapplication of funds allocated to state govts.

A good educational system needs to be resourced with learning materials such as books, journals, with access to virtual libraries but need I say this is in short supply and where they exist, they are just out of date.

Also of significant importance is the lack of research in our universities; an educational system that fails to research, will fail to develop. Then there is decay in infrastructure, a weak pool of able students to recruit from by universities judging by the abysmal recent poor JAMB results.
Seriously, our educational system is in dire need of reform, investment and failure to recognise this fact is just living in denial of the problem. The future of our country largely depends on the ability of our children to develop the dynamism and ideas for new businesses, entrepreneurial skills and new technology that will create wealth in an ever changing world.

http://hilonah-educationthatworksfornigeria..com
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 12:27am On Jun 29, 2011
@ nAIJA4LIFE Thank you so much for your contribution, I have now seen where I am mistaken it was really nice reading your write up.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Darwine(m): 6:12am On Jun 29, 2011
Let me still say it again, what we are wasting here in nigeria are brains. Educationaly, any nigerian that travels out of the country does exceptionaly well over there. Commercial (in terms of business), you all know that the white men respect us in that. In politics, they regard us as giant of africa, let me not talk of crimes cuz they always take to their heels knowing they cant beat us in that. What we need in nigeria is for our leaders to establish this country and we will do the rest for the world to hear about nigeria.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Nija4Life(m): 3:15pm On Jun 29, 2011
Natasha,,:

@ nAIJA4LIFE Thank you so much for your contribution, I have now seen where I am mistaken it was really nice reading your write up.

Thank you @Natasha, the ability to see a superior argument and accept it is a clear sign of strength and Nigeria needs people like you.

http://hilonah-educationthatworksfornigeria..com
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by Natasha2(f): 4:21pm On Jun 29, 2011
Nija4Life:

Thank you @Natasha, the ability to see a superior argument and accept it is a clear sign of strength and Nigeria needs people like you.

http://hilonah-educationthatworksfornigeria..com
I feel flattered I must say but all the same thank you very much, and see you around wink cheesy kiss
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by deoyel25(m): 10:58am On Jun 30, 2011
The earlier you start facing reality the better for you and Nigeria. Nigerian has no education standard at all, talkless of saying she has a low education standard. Either take it, leave it or go and die.
Re: The Nigerian Standard Of Education Is High by deoyel25(m): 11:13am On Jun 30, 2011
iragbijile:

I agree with you. You are totally right. Education is the US is a joke, effing joke. Before I came here, i was a dullard, couldnt spell, couldnt write couldnt do poo. I took WAEC 6 times, failed. My last one, I had 2 Cs 5 Ps and 3 F9s. And, my JAMB, dont even go there. Actually, lets go there, I took it 5 times, 120, 110, 90, 199, and 112. I was a terrible student in Nigeria, but a very hardworking one. Anyhow, after I 'rapala, come here, things have been different.

I took SAT, got 2399/2400, missed perfect score by one point, made 3.99/4.00 in my Engineering class from an ivy, a rhode scholar at Oxford where [b]I finished a 2- yr masters in 7 days without even studying [/b]and yes all most of exams were open book and the rest I did online.


All I can say is that you are insane. You should not be talking where human beings are talking.

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