1. God is a title just as Man is a title if God claims to be one God how was he able to produce a Son who is also God with a different will.


2. Why did Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus instead of Yahwe as since Yahwe is said to be the name of God?

haekymbahd:
1. God is a title just as Man is a title if God claims to be one God how was he able to produce a Son who is also God with a different will.
2. Why did Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus instead of Yahwe as since Yahwe is said to be the name of God?

Do you think the title "ENGINEER" is OK to address someone?
For instance Engineer Rauf Aregbesola.
But what if his Son also choose to be an Engineer? Do you think the child should also bear Rauf Aregbesola as his own name too?

haekymbahd:
1. God is a title just as Man is a title...

"God" is not a title and neither is man a title same as car is not a title. It is just a Name given for identification and description of "Things" Seen and experienced.

Therefore, God is the Name used to identify The Person Who is The Creator and Owner of all the things we have seen, including us.

Or, this is how Christians use it.

haekymbahd:

how was he able to produce a Son who is also God with a different will.

This is ridicule causing! since He Produced us, to produce little Us'es, How then is it impossible for Him to produce His own Son?

Like saying Steve Jobs who has produced iPhones can not produce S.Jiphones!

haekymbahd:

2. Why did Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus instead of Yahwe as since Yahwe is said to be the name of God?

Like when police and law enforcement want to catch criminals in their crimes, they use their real names and say "hi my name is Hakeem from Interpol"!

MaxInDHouse:


Do you think the title "ENGINEER" is OK to address someone?
For instance Engineer Rauf Aregbesola.
But what if his Son also choose to be an Engineer? Do you think the child should also bear Rauf Aregbesola as his own name too?

okay, you mean our God is not one. Note the word "our". Since his Son is also God with different will am I right..

MaxInDHouse:


Do you think the title "ENGINEER" is OK to address someone?
For instance Engineer Rauf Aregbesola.
But what if his Son also choose to be an Engineer? Do you think the child should also bear Rauf Aregbesola as his own name too?

That's applicable to humans not God!

That's why only there only one YHVH in your Bible. And such title was never used for Jesus, Moses, nor for the god that fought Jacob and lost and for Satan the god of the world.

haekymbahd:
okay, you mean our God is not one. Note the word "our". Since his Son is also God with different will am I right..

Let's take it one after another.
Do you agree with me that a father and his son can bear the same title but different names?

AntiChristian:

That's applicable to humans not God!
That's why only there only one YHVH in your Bible. And such title was never used for Jesus, nor for the god that fought Jacob and lost and for Satan the god of the world.

We are saying the same thing!

An Engineer is greater than another Engineer the same way a God is greater than another God.

Each engineer will have what he's doing yet an engineer may sublet a contract to a lesser engineer.
JEHOVAH is God and Jesus is God but Jehovah is the Almighty who assigned duty to Jesus to serve as God but with a lesser authority to that of the Almighty!

Dtruthspeaker:


"God" is not a title and neither is man a title same as car is not a title. It is just a Name given for identification and description of "Things" Seen and experienced.

Therefore, God is the Name used to identify The Person Who is The Creator and Owner of all the things we have seen, including us.

Or, this is how Christians use it.

Which is really God according to Christians ? Adonai, Adonee, Elohim or YHVH!

Which did the LORD in heaven that never physically came down to earth call Himself?

This is ridicule causing! since He Produced us, to produce little Us'es, How then is it impossible for Him to produce His own Son?

Like saying Steve Jobs who has produced iPhones can not produce S.Jiphones!

He created man (Adam) from earth and the first woman from Adam. All other humans came from their parent(s). How was God's son produced? Was Mary the wife aka Mother of God as Yahweh is the father?

Like when police and law enforcement want to catch criminals in their crimes, they use their real names and say "hi my name is Hakeem from Interpol"!

So why wasn't he named Immanuel but Jesus? Why Jesus and not Joshua? Why not name him Yahweh if he's the son and also the father?

MaxInDHouse:


We are saying the same thing!

An Engineer is greater than another Engineer the same way a God is greater than another God.

Each engineer will have what he's doing yet an engineer may sublet a contract to a lesser engineer.
JEHOVAH is God and Jesus is God but Jehovah is the Almighty who assigned duty to Jesus to serve as God but with a lesser authority to that of the Almighty!

1.You mean Jehovah is not omnipotent? So he has to sublet duties like Buhari gave duties to his VP.
2. So how do you say the LORD our God is one! When we have:

Moses as Elohim.
Satan as Elohim.
Jesus as God.
Angel as Elohim.
You (many people) as Elohim.

AntiChristian:


1.You mean Jehovah is not omnipotent? So he has to sublet duties like Buhari gave duties to his VP.
2. So how do you say the LORD our God is one! When we have:

Moses as Elohim.
Satan as Elohim.
Jesus as God.
Angel as Elohim.
You (many people) as Elohim.

The same way allah the god muhammad inherited from his pagan father called Abd allāh sublet duties to Jibril that visited muhammad in cave

AntiChristian:

1.You mean Jehovah is not omnipotent? So he has to sublet duties like Buhari gave duties to his VP.

All you need to do is study the Bible with JWs and all these things will become like àkàrà and ẹ̀kọ!

Remember that God never gave us electricity, telephone, automobile, aeroplane, speedboats, radio, television and so on like that but He is the source of all the things man used to make all these things.
That's how God does His own works, He will do some and allow His intelligent children (humans) make use of the things He provided for them to enhance their own lives.
That's what brings Him joy as the Almighty not doing everything without allowing humans to make use of their God's given brains!

AntiChristian:

2. So how do you say the LORD our God is one! When we have:
Moses as Elohim.
Satan as Elohim.
Jesus as God.
Angel as Elohim.
You (many people) as Elohim.

Because there is just ONE God to be WORSHIPED! Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

But as CREATORS of so many things on this planet we humans are also Gods {Psalms 82:6} on our part just that none of us deserve to be worshiped.

WHY?

Because all glory, laud and honor belongs to the Almighty who gave us the wisdom to make other useful things on our planet! Revelations 4:11

AntiChristian:

He created man (Adam) from earth and the first woman from Adam.

After "producing" the earth first to produce the man.

It is so funny seeing grown ass men argue and trying to make sense out of nonsense....

sonmvayina:
It is so funny seeing grown ass men argue and trying to make sense out of nonsense....

If people agree that “God” is a title and not a person, it will make things easier, come with me:
There’s nothing like “God” in Arabic text. There’s nothing like “God” in Hebrew text.
So where did “God” come from?
If you are a a Christian you’ll know that New Testament was written in GREEK. Maybe that’s where the word came from, which was written as “Theo” but Old Testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew, so why did they equate “Theo(Greek)”to the character in the Old Testament? Shouldn’t they follow the pattern from old to new?

What’s “Theo” called in Hebrew?
Theo is different from Elohim.

So God or god or GOD or gOD anyhow they condition you to write it, as long as it is from Greek origin it’s very much different from the main characters protrayed in your book(Allah, Elohim, Yahweh)
You calling Allah or Yahweh a God(Theo) is even an insult lol.

Dtruthspeaker:


After "producing" the earth first to produce the man.

Where are the other questions?

MaxInDHouse:


All you need to do is study the Bible with JWs and all these things will become like àkàrà and ẹ̀kọ!

Remember that God never gave us electricity, telephone, automobile, aeroplane, speedboats, radio, television and so on like that but He is the source of all the things man used to make all these things.
That's how God does His own works, He will do some and allow His intelligent children (humans) make use of the things He provided for them to enhance their own lives.
That's what brings Him joy as the Almighty not doing everything without allowing humans to make use of their God's given brains!

Allah says what means: "While Allah has created you and what you make!" Qur'an 37:96. A beautiful summary of all you've written above.

But i still don't get how this is related to Jehovah making Jesus God, Moses God, Satan God, Angel God and Everyone God?

Allah says what means: Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is! Qur'an 36:82

Why the need to delegate your duties to Satan, Jesus, Moses, etc.

Because there is just ONE God to be WORSHIPED! Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

But as CREATORS of so many things on this planet we humans are also Gods {Psalms 82:6} on our part just that none of us deserve to be worshiped.

WHY?

Because all glory, laud and honor belongs to the Almighty who gave us the wisdom to make other useful things on our planet! Revelations 4:11

ONE God is to be worshiped out of the many Gods in the Bible but the God to be worshiped was not stated in Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

AntiChristian:

Allah says what means: "While Allah has created you and what you make!" Qur'an 37:96. A beautiful summary of all you've written above.
But i still don't get how this is related to Jehovah making Jesus God, Moses God, Satan God, Angel God and Everyone God?
Allah says what means: Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!" and it is! Qur'an 36:82
Why the need to delegate your duties to Satan, Jesus, Moses, etc.
ONE God is to be worshiped out of the many Gods in the Bible but the God to be worshiped was not stated in Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

Now you are talking!
Your Allah differs from Jehovah, they're not comparable in anyway so keep whatever your Allah says about itself and stop mixing it with Jehovah because they are not the same!

In that Bible verse Deuteronomy 6:4 the Israelites knew the God they're to worship even though God made Moses a God in the land of Egypt {Exodus 7:1} that's why Jesus repeated it before their descendants! Mark 12:29

MaxInDHouse:


Now you are talking!

Your Allah differs from Jehovah, they're not comparable in anyway so keep whatever your Allah says about itself and stop mixing it with Jehovah because they are not the same!

Yeah! Allah is the name of Allah He called himself in the Qur'an over 1400 years! Jehovah on the other was created from YHVH about one or two centuries ago. They can't be the same as Allah. No one bears this name on earth nor does Allah delegates His duties of being God to others. All comes to Him as a slave in subservience and worship.

In that Bible verse Deuteronomy 6:4 the Israelites knew the God they're to worship even though God made Moses a God in the land of Egypt {Exodus 7:1} that's why Jesus repeated it before their descendants! Mark 12:29

The Israelite knew Moses to be a Prophet of God as stated in Deut 18:15 restated in Acts 3:22. And Deut. 34:10 says; There has never again been a prophet in Israel like Moses.

So it is more established even in your Bible that Moses was a Prophet (not God as Yahweh) and neither was Jesus if he was also a Prophet like Moses! So the god Moses was called is not literal but symbolic or figurative.

AntiChristian:


Yeah! Allah is the name of Allah He called himself in the Qur'an over 1400 years! Jehovah on the other was created from YHVH about one or two centuries ago. They can't be the same as Allah is Allah no one bears this name on earth nor does delegates His duties of being God to others. All comes to Him as a slave in subservience and worship.

The Israelite knew Moses to be a Prophet of God as stated in Deut 18:15 restated in Acts 3:22. And Deut. 34:10 says; There has never again been a prophet in Israel like Moses.

So it is more established even in your Bible that Moses was a Prophet (not God as Yahweh) and neither was Jesus if he was also a Prophet like Moses! So the god Moses was called is not literal but symbolic or figurative.

“Allah” got his name and origin from Aramaic, surprisingly “El” also got his name from there, you guys are worshipping the gods of the Middle East. Yahweh na one small god for Canaan before he was upgraded and featured in the Bible.

Maynman:


“Allah” got his name and origin from Aramaic, surprisingly “El” also got his name from there,

Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic are Semitic languages with origin from Shem a descendant of Noah! So the languages have some similarities hence that is expected.

you guys are worshipping the gods of the Middle East.

Allah states that Noah as well as Moses and others till Jesus were all Muslims. Allah is the Lord of all that exists and not of the middle east only.
There's no evidence for your assertion.

Yahweh na one small god for Canaan before he was upgraded and featured in the Bible.

Evidence?

AntiChristian:
Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic are Semitic languages with origin from Shem a descendant of Noah! So the languages have some similarities hence that is expected.


Allah states that Noah as well as Moses and others till Jesus were all Muslims. Allah is the Lord of all that exists and not of the middle east only.
There's no evidence for your assertion.

Evidence?

There is nothing like “Semitic language”. Semitic is a group of people with different languages. And that Allah name comes from one of the group, hence one of the language in Semitic known as “Aramaic” language.
Both Arabic and Hebrew comes from Aramaic.
You are worshipping a Semitic god from the Middle East.

When was Jesus born? When was Mohamed born?

Maynman:


There is nothing like “Semitic language”. Semitic is a group of people with different languages. And that exact name comes from one tribe hence one language in Semitic know as “Aramaic” language.

This is false and baseless. What are the different languages?

Both Arabic and Hebrew comes from Aramaic.

Aramaic is older but never thought others were derived from it.

You are worshipping a Semitic god.

Did He call Himself a semitic God? He is your God and my God.

When was Jesus born? When was Mohamed born?

Of what use is when they were born?

AntiChristian:

This is false and baseless. What are the different languages?

Aramaic is older but never thought others were derived from it.
Did He call Himself a semitic God? He is your God and my God.

Of what use is when they were born?

Aramaic is the one if not the earliest language of the Semitic people. You can google the earliest languages of the Semitic tribe, but Hebrew and Arabic came from Aramaic..
Do you think they speak English in those days? Semitic is an English word.
Google who is the “God” of the Semitic.

AntiChristian:

Yeah! Allah is the name of Allah He called himself in the Qur'an over 1400 years! Jehovah on the other was created from YHVH about one or two centuries ago. They can't be the same as Allah. No one bears this name on earth nor does Allah delegates His duties of being God to others. All comes to Him as a slave in subservience and worship. The Israelite knew Moses to be a Prophet of God as stated in Deut 18:15 restated in Acts 3:22. And Deut. 34:10 says; There has never again been a prophet in Israel like Moses.
So it is more established even in your Bible that Moses was a Prophet (not God as Yahweh) and neither was Jesus if he was also a Prophet like Moses! So the god Moses was called is not literal but symbolic or figurative.

Good! So since they're different let the worshipers (Witnesses) of your God continue with your Allah while Worshipers (Witnesses) of Jehovah continue with our Jehovah.
By their FRUITS (result not arguments) we will distinguish between those worshiping the true God and those deceived into worshiping the devil! Matthew 7:16-18

These witnesses of Jehovah aka William tyndale sha

Who a worshipper is, is defined in the Bible. Don’t confuse it with “witness”.

MaxInDHouse:


We are saying the same thing!

An Engineer is greater than another Engineer the same way a God is greater than another God.

Each engineer will have what he's doing yet an engineer may sublet a contract to a lesser engineer.
JEHOVAH is God and Jesus is God but Jehovah is the Almighty who assigned duty to Jesus to serve as God but with a lesser authority to that of the Almighty!

Allah is not comparable to anyone. Why compare your Jehovah to an Engineer? Seems you are postulating that Jehovah is an upgraded Moses/Satan/Jesus aka Angel Mike/Everyone.

Jehovah is not an upgraded version of those persons. Neither are those people a degraded version of Him. Those persons are His creation.

AntiChristian:

Allah is not comparable to anyone. Why compare your Jehovah to an Engineer? Seems you are postulating that Jehovah is an upgraded Moses/Satan/Jesus aka Angel Mike/Everyone.

Jehovah is not an upgraded version of those persons. Neither are those people a degraded version of Him. Those persons are His creation.

Are you talking about JEHOVAH the God of the Bible or Allah your God of the Qu'ran?

Well according to JEHOVAH we (intelligent beings) are created in His image so we are His small version that's why we can CREATE so many things (electricity, telecommunication, automobiles, aircrafts and many more) unlike other creatures that can't change anything till today!

Beware of Witnesses of Jehovah.

MaxInDHouse:


Are you talking about JEHOVAH the God of the Bible or Allah your God of the Qu'ran?

Well according to JEHOVAH we (intelligent beings) are created in His image so we are His small version that's why we can CREATE so many things (electricity, telecommunication, automobiles, aircrafts and many more) unlike other creatures that can't change anything till today!

Okay, Since Moses can sire children with women can Jehovah do same in an larger version?

Since Jesus can die on a small level can Jehovah too die on a larger level?

Since Satan can deceive can Jehovah too do same on a bigger level?

Allah is far from being ascribed with demeaning words like your Jehovah!

AntiChristian:

Okay, Since Moses can sire children with women can Jehovah do same in an larger version?
Since Jesus can die on a small level can Jehovah too die on a larger level?
Since Satan can deceive can Jehovah too do same on a bigger level?
Allah is far from being ascribed with demeaning words like your Jehovah!

Sorry it's the children that can imitate their father not the other way round.
So each of God's children pick an attribute of JEHOVAH and perform excellently to the glory of our heavenly father.
Your Allah differs so you too can exhibit the attributes of your Allah or keep waiting for your Allah to come and improve your lifestyle for you!

AntiChristian:


Okay, Since Moses can sire children with women can Jehovah do same in an larger version?

Since Jesus can die on a small level can Jehovah too die on a larger level?

Since Satan can deceive can Jehovah too do same on a bigger level?

Allah is far from being ascribed with demeaning words like your Jehovah!

You are just obsessed with Christianity and Christians nothing else

Maybe it's jealousy that you can't convert peacefully or it's fear of loosing your imaginary 7 vrigins

haekymbahd:
1. God is a title just as Man is a title if God claims to be one God how was he able to produce a Son who is also God with a different will.


2. Why did Gabriel tell Mary to name the baby Jesus instead of Yahwe as since Yahwe is said to be the name of God?

But your Allah said this is possible for him as well , by having fun with other gods like him :

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

لَوْ أَرَدْنَآ أَنْ نَّتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَّاتَّخَذْنٰهُ مِنْ لَّدُنَّآ إِنْ كُنَّا فٰعِلِينَ
"Had We intended to take a diversion, We could have taken it from [what is] with Us - if [indeed] We were to do so."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 17)

ANOTHER VERSION SAYS :

١٧. لَوْ أَرَدْنَآ أَن نَّتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَّٱتَّخَذْنَٰهُ مِن لَّدُنَّآ إِن كُنَّا فَٰعِلِينَ

Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).

WHO ARE THE '' US'' BEING REFERRED TO HERE?
1 )The angels or other gods like Allah ?