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Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Nobody: 7:56pm On Jul 15, 2011
while I don't like what some soldiers of the JTF possibly did, you gotta come to terms with reality here. . .

It's the ARMY. The government gave the northerners time to sort themselves out and weed out their foolish people.
As mentioned by the boko haramites, they have local support. And I really won't be surprised if those elders know and are in league with the Haramites.
We can't go on living in fear in the rest of naija. Insurgency is disgusting!!! So the blame is on those who could have ended the boko nonsense but did nothing, hence inviting the Army to fist-screw their area, with casualties being the obvious aftermath.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by skydeexie(m): 8:55pm On Jul 15, 2011
[size=14pt]Hell fire Missiles!!![/size]Any body with hell fire missiles please, the JTF guys needs them badly now to finish this operation once and for all.
I think Boko Harakiri Ram need to have a taste of these missiles.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by nsiadi: 9:01pm On Jul 15, 2011
When GEJ talked of using Carrot & Stick in dealing wt BM those foolish elders & NBA didnt understand what that meant.
Raw Fura & Nunu must have mutilated their sense. Who expects a sitting head of state to fold hands while his soldiers
were being killed? You cant kill soldiers & get away wt it. No , not even in Bornu State. The Soldiers may not mind the politicians digging it out.

I think those who see the ever smiling GEJ as spineless are wrong. This guy takes his time, & you can fault him.
He must have consulted widely on the issue. Let those stupid elders take their case to the National assembly & get a shock of their life.
I believe God gave us GEJ, to enable us arrive @ the promised land faster than expected. If we wont stay together let us balk-anise.

Some people have been flying kites, Let Adamu Chiroma speak. He should come out from hiding. The game he started is blossoming.
Let the elders come up with a consensus spokesman. The snowball is yet to come. The cowards, those who hide under different shades
should run to Maidugri. Delay may be dangerous to their cause. You cant kill Christians, burn Churches & get away wt it. Let this be a lesson.

The Army shd fire on, the original army hear GOOOOOOOOOO. They dont hear come. Now they lost some of their own Maidugri will hear NWiI.


An Advise to the Khaki boys, We know you can bite, but please protect your men. You do not need to expose the identity of your fighters, not even the commander.
Till now the identity of the navy seal chaps that silenced Osama has been kept sealed. Also you need not reply all silly comments, including those from the stupid elders. Those who point accusing fingers on them may be right. Its because they are loosing foot soldiers that they are now groaning.
Thats, probably, why the BM is giving withdrawal of soldiers as a condition for going to negotiate. Keep on the pressure & expect more results.
Negotiating with them isnt the best option.

Security shd be beefed up in other places. They are likely to attempt relocating, to avoid decimation.

Post Scriptum, those blaming present regime must remember that Yaradua ,& not GEJ, started this war. Please those Policemen being tried for extra judicial killings shd not be made escape goats. Their colleagues are already showing reservations,
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Danni2: 9:04pm On Jul 15, 2011
THOSE SO-CALLED ELDERS WHO ONLY KNOW HOW TO COUNT THE CASUALTIES OF THE JTF and not THE CASUALTIES OF BOKO HARAM SHOULD BE REMINDED THAT THEIR SONS WHO CALL THEMSELVES BOKO HARAM, WERE THE ONES WHO INVITED THE MILITARY. WHEN YOU INVITE THE MILITARY TO YOUR LAND, DONT EXPECT REVEREND FATHERS. By the way, how many times have we heard those so-called elders condemning those blood-tasty idiot sons of theirs?
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by PXtB(m): 9:26pm On Jul 15, 2011
This committee will want to re-echo its stand and state without an iota of doubt that the soldiers have engaged themselves in extra judicial killing of people

I still dey laugh oooo!!! The Northern elders are just realising that innocent lives are being killed and Maiduguri chapter of NBA want a judicial commission of enquiry to be set up in respect of those killed by soldiers in combat.
Gentlemen let's face some realities: When BH were killing innocent "non-believers", there was no need for commission of enquiry and the so-called elders didn't raise a voice. The killings were just normal. When soldiers started their own round of killings, the killings became illegal and there was need for commission of enquiry. Are we not fooling ourselves here? Does it mean that the laws of these Islamic extremists supersedes the constitution of the FGN. The killings by BH are "intra-judicial" while that by soldiers are "extra-judicial". I dey laugh again ooo.

Where were Nothern NBA and elders when Youth Corpers were brutally murdered after the April election? Oh those ones are "intra-judicial" killings and very normal; and that's why no Northern elder came out to condemn the heinous act.
The Northern elders are gradually showing their true colours and the President should watch out. They are the real supporters of BH. The BH we talk about are but common people that cannot afford the sophisticated weapons ther using; they are simply playing the scripts of some big boys and only time shall tell. I'm sure if Buhari had won the election into the presidency which they see as their birth right, this uprising wouldn't have happened. May God help us!
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by blackbeau1(f): 9:36pm On Jul 15, 2011
Jtf please please keep shooting. As far as i'm concerned soldiers are supposed to shoot first and ask later. Besides,how are they supposed to know who is innocent or not, when children are also used to plant the bombs. The elders are hiding something.let them tell Nigerians what it is or keep quiet.it is apparent that boko haram is feeling very uncomfortable from the heat and is scared that at this rate,JTF might , Anyway,what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.the same measures were applied to the niger delta region and i believe the northeners sanctioned it.so they should'nt complain now.to the niger delta region and i believe the northeners sanctioned it.so they should'nt complain now.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by freegaza(m): 9:58pm On Jul 15, 2011
Animals no even animals are better than you people.I wish i only wish there are more northerners here
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Tyche(m): 11:56pm On Jul 15, 2011
I suspect those elders to be boko haram members and should be arrested immediately. where were they when boko haram were killing people before the military came. Bunch of fools.

Abeg carrry go JTF.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by juman(m): 2:49am On Jul 16, 2011
This thread is loaded. The posts are long.

Whenever the army are invited into a situation it's always shoot and shoot.

But the problem is more than mere shooting people, it's ideology. Probably talking will be better.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by gonzaga: 3:39am On Jul 16, 2011
This forum is sure made up of some peeps who are hell bent on trivializing every issue no matter how important. For the records, Major General Sarkin Yaki was the first commander of the JTF in the Niger Delta. Nobody raised the issue of ethnicity then. Now because a group of useless and Godforsaken elders have come togeather to make unsubstantiated allegations, we are all falling in line with the north as usual. Did anyone ever hear a group by that name before now? How are we sure these so called ''elders'' are not the patrons of the BOKO HARAM group? It is high time we face the truth and say it as it is. The north has been pampared for too long! We always try to differ to them in all aspects of our national life. The constitution says there will not be a state religion, we allowed them to have sharia, spend billions every year transporting people for hajj, cancel any program they feel offends their religion even if the rest of the country does not feel so, tolerate their killing spree each time they feel like, burn churches at will, allow them to marry little girls who end up VVF patients and we still use state funds to treat the patients, make educationally less develop state a parmanent feature in our educational system all becuae of the north! I can go on and on. But a time comes in the life of a nation, when enough is enough, and I think that time in now. Whatever anyone thinks, the bitterness of GEJ as president cannot be divorced from the activities of these vampires. Some people have vowed before now to make this country ungovernable if power does not return to the north or are we all suffering from collective amnesia that we have forgotten soo soon? Let everone sit and introspect, the north has been and will continue to be the problem of this country untill something drastic is done.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by faji102: 4:35am On Jul 16, 2011
I pray God to touch the hearts of the boko sect so that they can realize that they are sining against humanity. Only Gods intervention can save the situation. May God help us all.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by igbogolo: 7:00am On Jul 16, 2011
I like boko haram. they magnify the reason the country should do away with the primitive and backward islamic north.

It started with Yerima, when he championed sharia followed by other northern states. so today what do we have? an illiterate jihadist group killing their sons and daughters and dragging the region to the primitive past. I visited saudi arabia three years ago, it was a beautiful place. the people know how to enjoy well well, yet its the cradle of islam. let these book haramites go to mecca and see what the so called 'western education' has done for their mohammed and its followers.

As for an igbo man heading the JTF, before nko? its time for igbo man to direct bullets that exterminated his fellowmen in the war. he should aim the JTF rifles at the aorta of these disgruntled northern elders and their bastard children and completely wipe them out. when the full war breaks out, nigeria will disintegrate with the strong south carving the boundary from south kaduna through abuja.

I think the first borno elder to be killed is the pae.dophile senator yerima. u mustn't be resident in borno to be the sponsor of these useless group. stupid bastard children of islam. Hiss
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by MIMU(m): 11:19am On Jul 16, 2011
hmmn
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by lucabrasi(m): 11:38am On Jul 16, 2011
that is the most annoying thing of all!! they have been investigating for months now and have not been able to uncover or are shielding the financiers and collaborators of these boko haram people.the president should have given the ig ,sss and others an ultimatum to produce visible results in form of collaborators and financiers especially influential or they will lose their jobs but he is ignoring the problem probably thinking it will go away
all we are waiting for now is for the niger delta and massob to start their own and we will then know if the country will devolve into another civil war or another somalia.
the silly lily livered,weak,clueless president is busy shielding his people and recycling old dirty corrupt politicians while the country is burning,a strong willed president and commander of armed forces will have taken decisive steps than negotiating with terrorists how can any sensible person negotiate with terrorists?
now he has emboldened them and shown that he is incapable of dealing with the situation,this is where experience of governance and being in a combustive situation like war comes in and so far goodluck is failing miserably
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by mathskill: 11:42am On Jul 16, 2011
gonzaga:

This forum is sure made up of some peeps who are hell bent on trivializing every issue no matter how important. For the records, Major General Sarkin Yaki was the first commander of the JTF in the Niger Delta. Nobody raised the issue of ethnicity then. Now because a group of useless and Godforsaken elders have come togeather to make unsubstantiated allegations, we are all falling in line with the north as usual. Did anyone ever hear a group by that name before now? How are we sure these so called ''elders'' are not the patrons of the BOKO HARAM group? It is high time we face the truth and say it as it is. The north has been pampared for too long! We always try to differ to them in all aspects of our national life. The constitution says there will not be a state religion, we allowed them to have sharia, spend billions every year transporting people for hajj, cancel any program they feel offends their religion even if the rest of the country does not feel so, tolerate their killing spree each time they feel like, burn churches at will, allow them to marry little girls who end up VVF patients and we still use state funds to treat the patients, make educationally less develop state a parmanent feature in our educational system all becuae of the north! I can go on and on. But a time comes in the life of a nation, when enough is enough, and I think that time in now. Whatever anyone thinks, the bitterness of GEJ as president cannot be divorced from the activities of these vampires. Some people have vowed before now to make this country ungovernable if power does not return to the north or are we all suffering from collective amnesia that we have forgotten soo soon? Let everone sit and introspect, the north has been and will continue to be the problem of this country untill something drastic is done.
When niger-delta monarchs called for the disbandment of JTF in their no one abused them,when plateau elder's called for the replacement of the muslim commander of the military task sent to keep the peace no one called them insane,but now that borno elder's call for the removal of JTF the whole north is to blame.Borno state along does not make up northern nigeria.90 percent of the boko haram attacks are in borno,not the whole of  northern nigeria.They don't even have a mass followeship in borno,Islmaic cleric's,politician's,police men,ordinary citizen's who have critisized them have been targeted and killed,Even the SHEHU of borno is a target and you condemn the whole of the north for what is happening in borno.On hajj,do you want to tell me that gorvenment dnt foot the bill for christian going to jerusalem.about sharia i wonder why it is right for a church to build universities but muslim can't practice their legal system.on marrying liitle girl's it is a social problem which no society is immune too(,the girl's in edo who look forward to italy)is an example.you continue to say the north is the problem with nigeria,all the five bank chief that dipped their hands into depositor's funds were all southerner's.importer's of  fake drugs are southerner's,the first coup in nigeria were by southerner's,pastor king is a southerner,anini was a southerner,forger's of all documents in lagos island are all southerner's.ALL 419's and drug pusher's are southerner's.Is it not in lagos that streets are barricaded to ward of armed robber's all in southern nigeria and yet you come to this forum and say north is the problem.The problem in this country is not one ethnic group or religion it is injustice,corruption,nepotism,greed,selfishness and general indiscipline which cuts across  all geopolitical,ethnic,religiouse and social divide in this country.The earlier we own up and stop placing the blame on another the beeter.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Kenn7: 12:38pm On Jul 16, 2011

 
 
Friday, July 15, 2011  
 

A PETITION BY CONCERNED CITIZENS TO HIS EXCELLENCY, GOODLUCK JONATHAN, PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES
 

[center]STOP THE BLOODBATH NOW![/center]

Your Excellency, we, the undersigned, Citizens of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, at home and abroad, do hereby address the following Petition to you pursuant to peace and stability in Nigeria generally and particularly in the North Eastern part of the country where the Islamic sect, Boko Haram is presenting a security threat to the Nigerian state and the Nigerian people.
 
Sir, having thoroughly analyzed the situation and interacted with people on the ground, having listened to security officers and state functionaries and having considered fully the totality of government action on this matter, we discern a growing feeling amongst Nigerians that if we are unable to effectively handle what is essentially supposed to be a minor rebellion by a small religious sect, then we may not be able to cope with any form of external threat or more widespread internal unrest. Nigerians seek re-assurances coupled with real actions from the government to indicate that this is not the case.
 
As Concerned Citizens, on behalf of Nigerians at large, we make the following observations and demands with a view that you will consider them immediately and act to save our commonwealth:
 
(1) We acknowledge the efforts being made by the Federal Government under your leadership to tackle that insurgency, but we must make clear that we are not comfortable with the result so far. We are particularly concerned about the humanitarian crises that have resulted, especially with the activities of the Joint Task Force (JTF) led by Major-General Jack Nwaogbo.
 
(2) We condemn the leadership of the Joint Task Force for constituting the outfit into an occupation force, killing and maiming innocent citizens in supposed pursuit of Boko Haram militants. We condemn their intimidation and extortion of ordinary people and motorists and their burning and looting of private abodes, creating untold suffering and massive humanitarian crises in Maiduguri and environs. We believe that rather than engage professionally, certain members of the Joint Task Force have been allowed to use this exercise as a money-making racket, compounding the problem and winning no friends from amongst the populace. It is a tragic irony that as we speak, the JTF is more unpopular in the North East than the Boko Haram militants.
 
(3) Following from (2) above, we call on you, Mr. President to effect an immediate change in the current leadership of the JTF as a statement that you and Nigerians will not accept impunity and extra-judicial killing as a ‘proactive’ response to a law and order issue. Along with the change in leadership of the JTF would be the need to reorganize the outfit and the general security operations in the area with a view to training operatives on the demands and expectations on law enforcement in a democracy.
 
(4) We recall the attempt in 2009 to quell the sect’s rebellion and how the security forces then engaged in indiscriminate extra-judicial killings, including the killing of the leader of the sect, Ustaz Mohammed Yusuf, who at the time was securely in police custody. We are therefore not unaware that the poor handling and management of the 2009 rebellion is the primary reason we are back to confront the problem today. It is clear that this is no way to solve the problem. The facts are there for all to see.
 
(5) In order to avoid the tragedy of 2009 where almost a thousand lives were lost, most of them innocent lives, we demand that the JTF pulls back from communities and provide only back-up for regular police-led operations. We insist that every operational encounter with the public be recorded with visual and audio devices to maintain accountability amongst officers involved in any such operations. The lives of all Nigerians are valuable. No one should face extra-judicial execution.
 
(6) We are aware that the core problems allegedly experienced by security operatives on the ground is the fact that they are receiving very little information and cooperation from citizens. We say it is a fact because we can understand they are not likely to get cooperation from the way and manner they have been treating the law-abiding civil populace as described above. Thus, apart from the training of men of the proposed newly-organized JTF, your government should invest in public awareness and information dissemination, including provision of secured forums where civil leaders and security operatives can share information and build trust. There should also be provision of discreet and anonymous channels for members of the public to pass information to the security forces and it is important that these channels engage all available media avenues. One of such channels could be the provision of toll free phones where members of the public can leave information for the security and investigative authorities confidentially.
 
(7) To further support the measures advocated in (6) above and as a means of engendering better cooperation from individual members of the public and communities, we suggest that government should make more proactive use of traditional institutions, traditional rulers and community elders throughout the North East. They should not only report suspicious activities in their areas, they should also be encouraged to guarantee the safety and non-prosecution of fringe members of the sect who not only denounce the sect and its violent ways, but who, more importantly, cooperate with the security services by way of giving useful information about the organization’s activities, their leaders and their own role in it up to that point. The traditional rulers should be given the discretion to do this at first instance. This would give them better leverage in ensuring security of communities. However, to ensure that such a programme isn’t abused, independent overseers and assessors made up of credible members of civil society should be appointed by the President in consultation with the governments of the states in the region. This body should be the one to consider and make final approval of any recommendation by the traditional rulers. This is not amnesty, but a confidence-building measure to make the enforcement of law and order easier.
 
(cool We are aware that the word on the streets is that some former governors and politicians of states in the North East, as well as other persons nationwide, are complicit in the insurgency by way of providing funding to the group. However, there has been no official government information to suggest that these allegations have been (or are being) properly investigated, except the recent questioning of the former Governor of Borno, Ali Modu Sheriff by the State Security Service. Without prejudice to the ongoing investigation, we condemn Ali Modu Sheriff and Governor Isa Yuguda of Bauchi, both of whom have showed such lily-livered disposition in making groveling public pleas to Boko Haram. They should be ashamed of themselves! They should be ashamed that they have betrayed the trust of the people that gave them the mandate to be the Chief Security Officers of their respective states. All that this indicates is that they have some relationship with Boko Haram and whatever the nature of this relationship, we are urging you, Mr President to also make sure that the investigative authorities and the security services get to the bottom of it.
 
(9) We observe that one crucial issue in the various communal disturbances that have bedeviled the country is the question of justice through the courts. Our democracy cannot afford to be unaccountable for genocides and unlawful citizens’ deaths. Mr. President, you have made countless promises at home and abroad about bringing perpetrators of this type of acts to justice, but Nigerians are yet to see a conclusive prosecution that gives hope that justice is being done.
 
(10) Therefore, pursuant to (9) above, we propose that the presidency, the National Assembly and the National Judicial Council put heads together immediately with the aim of creating Special Terrorism and Communal Violence Courts with the powers of a High Court to sit in Maiduguri and throughout the capitals of the North East with the mandate to only try cases of this nature. Appeals from this Court should go directly to the Court of Appeal. This would be a fast-track process that does not diminish the quality of justice or compromise democratic standards as all this would do is simply reduce time, focus resources, get results and return confidence to the citizenry.
 
Sir, we make the above observations and demands in the spirit of resolution of this crisis, protection of Nigerians, protection of our national honour and interests and a revalidation of our democratic credentials as a country operating under the rule of law. These are very worrying developments that need serious, decisive, critical and unequivocal action from you, Mr. President. Nigerians need you to assure them that you understand what the problems are and to show through action that you are actually tackling them. We cannot overstate the fact that there is the need to return confidence in government to the people of the North East particularly and Nigerians generally by taking actions that clearly indicate that the government considers their security and wellbeing paramount in this affair.
 
Thank you, Your Excellency for the opportunity to share our views with you in relation to such a critical national issue. It is our fervent hope that you will give this Petition the urgent and required attention it deserves.
 
Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!
 
God Bless the Nigerian People!
 

 
Signed:
 
(For and on behalf of Concerned Citizens)
 
 

 
 
 
,
 
 
Fellow Nigerians,
 
Please find below an online link to this Petition to President Goodluck Jonathan on Boko Haram. Please, read and sign and get as many Nigerians as you can to read and sign the Petition in that link online. It is important that the President understands that Nigerians are massively behind the observations and suggestions in the Petition.
 
Thank you!
 
 

 
 
http://www.petitions24.com/petition_by_concerned_nigerians_to_the_president_on_boko_haram
 
 
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Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by lucabrasi(m): 2:02pm On Jul 16, 2011
mathskill:

When niger-delta monarchs called for the disbandment of JTF in their no one abused them,when plateau elder's called for the replacement of the muslim commander of the military task sent to keep the peace no one called them insane,but now that borno elder's call for the removal of JTF the whole north is to blame.Borno state along does not make up northern nigeria.90 percent of the boko haram attacks are in borno,not the whole of  northern nigeria.They don't even have a mass followeship in borno,Islmaic cleric's,politician's,police men,ordinary citizen's who have critisized them have been targeted and killed,Even the SHEHU of borno is a target and you condemn the whole of the north for what is happening in borno.On hajj,do you want to tell me that gorvenment dnt foot the bill for christian going to jerusalem.about sharia i wonder why it is right for a church to build universities but muslim can't practice their legal system.on marrying liitle girl's it is a social problem which no society is immune too(,the girl's in edo who look forward to italy)is an example.you continue to say the north is the problem with nigeria,all the five bank chief that dipped their hands into depositor's funds were all southerner's.importer's of  fake drugs are southerner's,the first coup in nigeria were by southerner's,pastor king is a southerner,anini was a southerner,forger's of all documents in lagos island are all southerner's.ALL 419's and drug pusher's are southerner's.Is it not in lagos that streets are barricaded to ward of armed robber's all in southern nigeria and yet you come to this forum and say north is the problem.The problem in this country is not one ethnic group or religion it is injustice,corruption,nepotism,greed,selfishness and general indiscipline which cuts across  all geopolitical,ethnic,religiouse and social divide in this country.The earlier we own up and stop placing the blame on another the beeter.  
while i agree the fault should not be placed on the northerners alone,they have constituted a whole lot of the problems right from pre independence to now.
the dynamics of the niger delta issue was totally different from that of boko haram.for one the whole niger delta issue was confined to the creeks and swamps boko haram is terrorizing the whole country which is unprecedented,no one is safe and worse is that it is with the active conivancew and collaboration of foreign islamic terrorists how many police headquarters did the niger delta blow up?

if you really think boko haram dont have a mass followership in borno and other northern states,then you tell us what has sustained their followership and how have they been covered up till now so much so that no single influential backer or collaborator has been arrested so far, isnt it funny that the only ex deputy govenor suspected is in far away china or so and he has never been named publicly by the police?
how many boko harams have been prosecuted even before the present crop?
the fulanis who cut pregnant women open and committed all sorts of atrocities in the name of the north in jos a couple of years ago where are they now including the ones that were arrested in the aftermath?

the church are building their own private universities with their own funds why cant muslims too build their own unioversities and madrasas and then do whatever they like in the confines of such must they impose their sharia on the rest of us?
how will you feel if we too wanted our own christian laws to be recognised in day to day governance

yes but what caused that coup in the first place?have you forgotten it was connected to same northerners?

and if you look at all those armed robbers,drug dealers including diasporeans like us who are slaving away in another mans country it is as a direct result of failure in northern leadership over the years.
for every anini there is an ibb still enjoying his looted billions without fear or challenge.

for every drug dealer who was caught with a few grammes or kg of drugs in their bid to make a better life for themselves there is the abacha family,turai yar adua and co who have killed and maimed lots of people,stolen our collective money and commited all sorts of atrocities without sleeping a single night in jail.

it is true that these corruption,nepotism cuts accross ethnic divides but presently the focus is on the north and historically the north has contributed more than an other ethnicity.
1.why have northern leaders not done anything so far to curb boko haram
2.what has been the result of the governance of the majority northern leadership since independent
3.why are the same people who jailed asari dokubo,gideon orkar(who by the way is still in prison) now calling for dialogue in boko harams case? i would have though what is good for the ogoni 9 should be good for the boko haram leaders too?
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by aikuda(m): 3:25pm On Jul 16, 2011
Comment from @Rhino.5dm
Do you know what we do when sent for peace keeping? We kill, plunder our enemy ra.ped their women and drink their beer

Why is it always impossible for you to say something sensible?.  So this what you want to happen in your own country?

Well, just so you know majority of our soldiers are disciplined when sent for peace keeping. Killing, plundering  and Desecrating the people we are supposed to protect is not peace keeping.

Comment by @Henry
how is having men like nwaogbo going to solve the problem in borno he doesn't understand the region his voice to the situation in the region will not be more improtant than the elders, calling elders supporters of anyone because they are against military (nwaogbo's ignorant command) presence in maiduguri, the elders know better than the military and jonathan military should not be an option, it did not work in 2009 and it will not work today, he should not tell us that they know who they kill, they killed a 13 year old boy recently, anyone who dies in a line of fire is a terrorist? even developed countries like america do not leave civilians unharmed so he should not lie to us, mtschew

Good question! But you should have asked this question when Military Commanders of Northern extractions were leading the demolition of southern states.

Must we bring bring tribalism and regional sentiments into every discussion? Its unfortunate that the people on this forum are supposed to be some of the most aware of issues, yet the comments from many of us just go that Nigeria is in deep trouble. We have not learnt anything from history.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by okosodo: 4:07pm On Jul 16, 2011
They should say it louder
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Annamaechi: 4:39pm On Jul 16, 2011
@ Kenn7 SHARAPP!! YOU ARE NOT A NIGERIAN YOU BOKO HARAM. IDIOT!!
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by Annamaechi: 4:53pm On Jul 16, 2011
mathskill:

When niger-delta monarchs called for the disbandment of JTF in their no one abused them,when plateau elder's called for the replacement of the muslim commander of the military task sent to keep the peace no one called them insane,but now that borno elder's call for the removal of JTF the whole north is to blame.Borno state along does not make up northern nigeria.90 percent of the boko haram attacks are in borno,not the whole of  northern nigeria.They don't even have a mass followeship in borno,Islmaic cleric's,politician's,police men,ordinary citizen's who have critisized them have been targeted and killed,Even the SHEHU of borno is a target and you condemn the whole of the north for what is happening in borno.On hajj,do you want to tell me that gorvenment dnt foot the bill for christian going to jerusalem.about sharia i wonder why it is right for a church to build universities but muslim can't practice their legal system.on marrying liitle girl's it is a social problem which no society is immune too(,the girl's in edo who look forward to italy)is an example.you continue to say the north is the problem with nigeria,all the five bank chief that dipped their hands into depositor's funds were all southerner's.importer's of  fake drugs are southerner's,the first coup in nigeria were by southerner's,pastor king is a southerner,anini was a southerner,forger's of all documents in lagos island are all southerner's.ALL 419's and drug pusher's are southerner's.Is it not in lagos that streets are barricaded to ward of armed robber's all in southern nigeria and yet you come to this forum and say north is the problem.The problem in this country is not one ethnic group or religion it is injustice,corruption,nepotism,greed,selfishness and general indiscipline which cuts across  all geopolitical,ethnic,religiouse and social divide in this country.The earlier we own up and stop placing the blame on another the beeter.  
[color=#990000][/color] ALL BOKO HARAMS SHOULD BE KILLED PERIOD. A LION BEGATS A LION. IF YOU LET ANY ONE OF THEM LIVE, THEY WILL START FROM WHERE THEIR FATHERS AND ILLITRATE ELDERS STOPPED. KILL THEM ALL. NO MERCY!!
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by kinguwem: 6:36pm On Jul 16, 2011
The Borno elders and the Borno NBA are hypocrites. Where were they when the miscreants were terrorizing 'unbelievers'. The only reason they live together with 'unbelievers' is because their livelihood depend on them.
Sentiments apart, the JTF should crush the rebels and their sponsors. All true believers should pray and curse them till they all perish or repent.
Finally, no amnesty for terrorists.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by BABSIN(m): 7:46pm On Jul 16, 2011
They finally arrest leader of Christian wing of Boko HaramKADUNA -

Member of the Kaduna State House of Assembly, Mr.Yakubu Nkom Bityong has been arrested by the State Security Services, SSS, in Port Harcourt over alleged involvement with Boko Haram Islamic militants.



Vanguard was informed that Bityong, who was a former Commissioner of Sports for in the state, was picked up while attending the last National Sports Festival, as Chairman of the Local Organising Committee, LOC, for the state contingent.

But his family said his arrest must have been a serious error on the part of the security agency, saying the man was a devout Christian and with no record of violence.

Bityong graduated from the University of Maiduguri in 1985 with first class degree in Physical Education.

It was learnt that Bityong who represents Kaura Constituency at the Assembly got into trouble when a member of Boko Haram was found with his phone number while under investigation.

The SSS, according to Vanguard's investigations, arrested him and flew him to Abuja last Friday. But on Saturday, he was flown to Kaduna and taken to his house, which was thoroughly searched.

It was gathered that after the searching which lasted over four hours, the security agents took away the lawmaker, the SIM pack of his mobile telephone as well as his cheque book for further scrutiny.

His family has however expressed shock that Bityong was still being held incommunicado since his arrest, insisting that the suspect was innocent of the crime he alleged to have committed.

A sibling of Bityong, who spoke to Vangaurd on the issue said "my brother is a devout Christian, and has never been associated with violence.

''We are shocked that he could be arrested in connection with Boko Haram or any form of violence. He is a sincere man, with the fear of God in him and as such he cannot be associated with the Boko Haram fundamentalist Muslim sect.”

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/jul/15/311.html
Saturday, 16 July 2011 at 12:36
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by BABSIN(m): 7:49pm On Jul 16, 2011
IS BOKO HARAM REALLY A NORTHERN AGENDA OR A PROBLEM OF THE NORTH ONLY? I BET NOT. ALL BUNCH OF BIGOT AND HYPOCRITE CRYING FOR NIGERIA TO SPLIT, PLEASE RETHINK, NORTH IS NOT BORNU IT ALSO EXTEND TO BENUE AND KOGI, wink
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by BABSIN(m): 7:54pm On Jul 16, 2011
Igbogolo "I like boko haram. they magnify the reason the country should do away with the primitive and backward islamic" ,

Igbogolo: I hope you will eat your statement if Bityong is found guilty, I wonder why some people think wit their anus.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by jimmysho(m): 8:42pm On Jul 16, 2011
Why southernes are studyin unimaid is because over 80% lecturers in that school are of southern origin. u can confirm from ASUU. beside, the school is run with oil money from the south. the elders there cant teach anything reliable in the 21st century
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by igbogolo: 11:49pm On Jul 16, 2011
Mr Babsin or whatever you call yourself.

If you call my name again I will slap the okra seeds out of your eyes! What nonsense christian book haram are u talking about? shut up there!
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by bamosagie(m): 12:21am On Jul 17, 2011
in the word of a wise governor of borno state, it is destiny, those that were fell by the bullet of JTF should accept their destiny, the way the youth corpers that were butchered accepted their fate, those that were violated or have their property vandalised should shrug it off as those southern infidel have shrugged their lost off, it is destiny, controlled only by almighty Allah! cool
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by ocelot2006(m): 12:21pm On Jul 17, 2011
Kenn7:

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Friday, July 15, 2011


A PETITION BY CONCERNED CITIZENS TO HIS EXCELLENCY, GOODLUCK JONATHAN, PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES


[center]STOP THE BLOODBATH NOW![/center]

Your Excellency, we, the undersigned, Citizens of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, at home and abroad, do hereby address the following Petition to you pursuant to peace and stability in Nigeria generally and particularly in the North Eastern part of the country where the Islamic sect, Boko Haram is presenting a security threat to the Nigerian state and the Nigerian people.

Sir, having thoroughly analyzed the situation and interacted with people on the ground, having listened to security officers and state functionaries and having considered fully the totality of government action on this matter, we discern a growing feeling amongst Nigerians that if we are unable to effectively handle what is essentially supposed to be a minor rebellion by a small religious sect, then we may not be able to cope with any form of external threat or more widespread internal unrest. Nigerians seek re-assurances coupled with real actions from the government to indicate that this is not the case.

As Concerned Citizens, on behalf of Nigerians at large, we make the following observations and demands with a view that you will consider them immediately and act to save our commonwealth:

(1) We acknowledge the efforts being made by the Federal Government under your leadership to tackle that insurgency, but we must make clear that we are not comfortable with the result so far. We are particularly concerned about the humanitarian crises that have resulted, especially with the activities of the Joint Task Force (JTF) led by Major-General Jack Nwaogbo.

(2) We condemn the leadership of the Joint Task Force for constituting the outfit into an occupation force, killing and maiming innocent citizens in supposed pursuit of Boko Haram militants. We condemn their intimidation and extortion of ordinary people and motorists and their burning and looting of private abodes, creating untold suffering and massive humanitarian crises in Maiduguri and environs. We believe that rather than engage professionally, certain members of the Joint Task Force have been allowed to use this exercise as a money-making racket, compounding the problem and winning no friends from amongst the populace. It is a tragic irony that as we speak, the JTF is more unpopular in the North East than the Boko Haram militants.

(3) Following from (2) above, we call on you, Mr. President to effect an immediate change in the current leadership of the JTF as a statement that you and Nigerians will not accept impunity and extra-judicial killing as a ‘proactive’ response to a law and order issue. Along with the change in leadership of the JTF would be the need to reorganize the outfit and the general security operations in the area with a view to training operatives on the demands and expectations on law enforcement in a democracy.

(4) We recall the attempt in 2009 to quell the sect’s rebellion and how the security forces then engaged in indiscriminate extra-judicial killings, including the killing of the leader of the sect, Ustaz Mohammed Yusuf, who at the time was securely in police custody. We are therefore not unaware that the poor handling and management of the 2009 rebellion is the primary reason we are back to confront the problem today. It is clear that this is no way to solve the problem. The facts are there for all to see.

(5) In order to avoid the tragedy of 2009 where almost a thousand lives were lost, most of them innocent lives, we demand that the JTF pulls back from communities and provide only back-up for regular police-led operations. We insist that every operational encounter with the public be recorded with visual and audio devices to maintain accountability amongst officers involved in any such operations. The lives of all Nigerians are valuable. No one should face extra-judicial execution.

(6) We are aware that the core problems allegedly experienced by security operatives on the ground is the fact that they are receiving very little information and cooperation from citizens. We say it is a fact because we can understand they are not likely to get cooperation from the way and manner they have been treating the law-abiding civil populace as described above. Thus, apart from the training of men of the proposed newly-organized JTF, your government should invest in public awareness and information dissemination, including provision of secured forums where civil leaders and security operatives can share information and build trust. There should also be provision of discreet and anonymous channels for members of the public to pass information to the security forces and it is important that these channels engage all available media avenues. One of such channels could be the provision of toll free phones where members of the public can leave information for the security and investigative authorities confidentially.

(7) To further support the measures advocated in (6) above and as a means of engendering better cooperation from individual members of the public and communities, we suggest that government should make more proactive use of traditional institutions, traditional rulers and community elders throughout the North East. They should not only report suspicious activities in their areas, they should also be encouraged to guarantee the safety and non-prosecution of fringe members of the sect who not only denounce the sect and its violent ways, but who, more importantly, cooperate with the security services by way of giving useful information about the organization’s activities, their leaders and their own role in it up to that point. The traditional rulers should be given the discretion to do this at first instance. This would give them better leverage in ensuring security of communities. However, to ensure that such a programme isn’t abused, independent overseers and assessors made up of credible members of civil society should be appointed by the President in consultation with the governments of the states in the region. This body should be the one to consider and make final approval of any recommendation by the traditional rulers. This is not amnesty, but a confidence-building measure to make the enforcement of law and order easier.

(cool We are aware that the word on the streets is that some former governors and politicians of states in the North East, as well as other persons nationwide, are complicit in the insurgency by way of providing funding to the group. However, there has been no official government information to suggest that these allegations have been (or are being) properly investigated, except the recent questioning of the former Governor of Borno, Ali Modu Sheriff by the State Security Service. Without prejudice to the ongoing investigation, we condemn Ali Modu Sheriff and Governor Isa Yuguda of Bauchi, both of whom have showed such lily-livered disposition in making groveling public pleas to Boko Haram. They should be ashamed of themselves! They should be ashamed that they have betrayed the trust of the people that gave them the mandate to be the Chief Security Officers of their respective states. All that this indicates is that they have some relationship with Boko Haram and whatever the nature of this relationship, we are urging you, Mr President to also make sure that the investigative authorities and the security services get to the bottom of it.

(9) We observe that one crucial issue in the various communal disturbances that have bedeviled the country is the question of justice through the courts. Our democracy cannot afford to be unaccountable for genocides and unlawful citizens’ deaths. Mr. President, you have made countless promises at home and abroad about bringing perpetrators of this type of acts to justice, but Nigerians are yet to see a conclusive prosecution that gives hope that justice is being done.

(10) Therefore, pursuant to (9) above, we propose that the presidency, the National Assembly and the National Judicial Council put heads together immediately with the aim of creating Special Terrorism and Communal Violence Courts with the powers of a High Court to sit in Maiduguri and throughout the capitals of the North East with the mandate to only try cases of this nature. Appeals from this Court should go directly to the Court of Appeal. This would be a fast-track process that does not diminish the quality of justice or compromise democratic standards as all this would do is simply reduce time, focus resources, get results and return confidence to the citizenry.

Sir, we make the above observations and demands in the spirit of resolution of this crisis, protection of Nigerians, protection of our national honour and interests and a revalidation of our democratic credentials as a country operating under the rule of law. These are very worrying developments that need serious, decisive, critical and unequivocal action from you, Mr. President. Nigerians need you to assure them that you understand what the problems are and to show through action that you are actually tackling them. We cannot overstate the fact that there is the need to return confidence in government to the people of the North East particularly and Nigerians generally by taking actions that clearly indicate that the government considers their security and wellbeing paramount in this affair.

Thank you, Your Excellency for the opportunity to share our views with you in relation to such a critical national issue. It is our fervent hope that you will give this Petition the urgent and required attention it deserves.

Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

God Bless the Nigerian People!



Signed:

(For and on behalf of Concerned Citizens)


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Fellow Nigerians,

Please find below an online link to this Petition to President Goodluck Jonathan on Boko Haram. Please, read and sign and get as many Nigerians as you can to read and sign the Petition in that link online. It is important that the President understands that Nigerians are massively behind the observations and suggestions in the Petition.

Thank you!


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http://www.petitions24.com/petition_by_concerned_nigerians_to_the_president_on_boko_haram


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@Kenn7, I ain't signing JACK. I will only sign the bullets, grenades, rockets, and missiles to be used against those Boko Haram bastards. KILL THEM ALL angry angry angry!!
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by umechuma: 1:05pm On Jul 17, 2011
BABSIN:

IS BOKO HARAM REALLY A NORTHERN AGENDA OR A PROBLEM OF THE NORTH ONLY? I BET NOT. ALL BUNCH OF BIGOT AND HYPOCRITE CRYING FOR NIGERIA TO SPLIT, PLEASE RETHINK, NORTH IS NOT BORNU IT ALSO EXTEND TO BENUE AND KOGI, wink
Islam is evil and will continue to be evil.The north has always been a place for the killing of innocent Nigerians for decades either in Kano,Kaduna,Niger,Borno,Sokoto,Kebbi,Kastina,Jigawa or any other northern state.And presently the same evil religion is killing its people in Libya,Syria,Saudi Arabia,Iran,Iraqi the same evil news allover.Am sure you are a member of one of those extremist sect and it will only take one bullet on your chest to keep you where you belong.
Re: Jtf Accuses Borno Elders Of Backing Boko Haram by teskyg: 8:13am On Jul 18, 2011
The So called Elders should be arrested and investigated.They are the main financier of BKH.It shows why the whole north has been silent .The are working on a game plan.

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