Kobojunkie:

Ordinary 4 bedroom? Even here in Chicago, you can get one of those for about $130,000 and I am talking only a couple of minutes from downtown. Na wa ooo!!

norrisman:

Sorry but this guy shouldbe called [b]Ode[/b]mchi as in [b]Ode[/b]chukwu Jonathan. I do not want to diss anyone becuase of their level of education but you must be either educated to a very low level or you are just plain dumb. All your examples are so meh!

1. Taking up credit is a personal choice. You do not have to make use of credit facilities but it may be necessary to do so to build your credit if you plan to buy a house in the future as you do not find overnight millioanires in america who can afford to buy a $500,000 house cash like you do in that mad country Nigeria where government officials use the peoples commowealth for themselves.

2. The 24 hour system is part of what makes the country and very few people work are compelled to do 12 hour shifts. even when you do a 12 hour shift, you ahve the appropriate number of days off. If you care to know my dads driver in Nigeria arrives at my house at 6Am in the morning and only leaves after droping my dad off at 10/11pm and he does this 6 days a week. sometimes he is asked to come on Sundays as well and there is no official overtime! how many ours is that. The same goes for the boys in my mums shop. 8am to 7pm Monday to Saturday for N12,000/ month.

3. Professional devalue my a$$. In the western world, experience counts. All your paper cerificates are worthless! What do you expect? To walk of the plane and into a $100,000/ year job? Wake up mofo! pay your dues.

4 Does any memebr of your family have N83,000,000 cash to pay for a house. Cut your coat. Tthere are house way cheaper than that. You can get $50,000 house in some run down parts of Atlanta if you can afford it. Please give me the contact details of the car seller in Nigeria where I can buy 2 brand new SUVs for N6.6million.

5. Screw native language. can Barack Obama speak Kenayan or whatever they speak over in kenya? Is he not the bloody president.

In summary, You are not a very bright spark!

Kobojunkie:

Ordinary 4 bedroom? Even here in Chicago, you can get one of those for about $130,000 and I am talking only a couple of minutes from downtown. You can even get a good house in some states for about $30,000 or more. Na wa ooo!! Must everyone own a $500,000 how now, to live in america.

GAR3TH:

Are you sure? The average 4 bedroom home in New York is Around $350k, and these are suburban homes 40 to 50 miles from NY city.

I didn't know chicago was that bad of a city, or is the "home" you mention in a bad neighborhood,

Feel free to search.

http://www.homes.com/For-Sale/NY/ISLIP/maxprice=500000&listing_type=RESALE_FORECLOSURE

jara:

Odumchi,

You have very valid points.

The problem is we always look at those that are lucky in the U.S, like you have to play loto to win. It is a difficult country and many times inhuman to its own people too.

On the other hand, we also look at the worst in Nigeria. If you can stay middleclass, there is no place like Nigeria. But if you are dirt poor, any place but Nigeria. So it depends on how you look at it.

People will never believe you until they try and some of those that try also lie. One should know in advance what is waiting for them in the USA. No place like home.

odumchi:

Have you always dreamt about going to America? Many Nigerians envision America as a land of gold and honey. A land where the government showers you daily with piles of cash, and a land where everything is free. Well, they are wrong. There is nothing of that sort in America, and recent studies and accounts have shown that it is actually better for you to stay in Nigeria than it is to go to America. Here are five reasons why.

1. Debt: The mirage that anything and everything is possible in America is a lie. Worst of all, to new immigrants, the amount of credit offered in America is so attractive that by the time you know it, you will be chin deep in Debt. Debt that will most likely take you the rest of your natural life, and half of your children's to pay off.

2. Stress: America is the capital of stress. With 12 hour shifts and continuos work, the labour takes a heavy toll on its people, unlike in Nigeria. In Nigeria, you are the boss. You decide when to work and for how long. There is not a widespread practice of 24hour shifts and round the clock work, making it much better for your health and etc. The Stress in America might cause diseases previousl unexperienced by the average Nigerian. Diseases such as High-blood pressure, Hyper tension, and Arthiritis.

3. Professional Devalue: America can be a welcoming place for highly educated and well-off immigrants but also a nightmare for others. It is often known as the "graveyard of occupations" meaning that one's previous education and occupation can easily be rendered worthless in America. There was a woman who was very well off in Nigeria. She was the head chef of a 5-star hotel back in Nigeria and upon her arrival in the US, her degree and occupation was declared worthelss. She was turned down by many other hotels and had to assume a job as a frycook at McDonalds. There is also another account of a Local Governor from Nigeria who held many outstanding degrees from Universities in Nigeria, but was denied a reasonable job in America. In short, their lives were restarted.

4. Prices: Things have become very expensive for Americans. Things ranging from household items to entire homes, and combined with the constant devalue of the Naira, the US can be a financial nightmare for Nigerians. An ordinary 4-bedroom, single family house in the US will cost atleast $500,000 which is N83,000,000, More than enough to errect a 10 bedroom mansion with a boys-quarters and a gate in Nigeria. A brand new jeep in the US can easily cost $40,000 which is N6.6 million, more than enough to buy TWO jeeps in Nigeria.

5. Cultural Diffusion: The thing that every Nigerian regards with utmost importnace is his/her cultural background. America is a slaughter house for African cultures. People emmigrate form Nigeria and give birth to their children in the US. As their children grow up, the parents avoid teaching them their native language, and from then on the children are at a loss. Then, their parents avoid teaching them about their culture and tradition. Lastly, with all this not given to them, their children effectively turn into AAsand are estranged form the culture sand tradition of their homeland, ultimately deciding their destiny in life.

With this in mind, Ill be glad to recieve your feedback and thoughts on this

Sun of god:

A lot of silly arguments and comparisons as usual. . . . .

Let me first state I may not be the most qualified person to talk about the US but I've been there (Only Florida) and have seen for my own eyes both the good and bad sides of the country.

All this talk about houses - the comparisons being made are not on a like for like basis. A very good proportion of homes in the US are mainly made of wood or other soft fabrics. In Nigeria homes are mainly built with concrete blocks/bricks and are more robust. And last time I checked , house prices in america were still declining and are not a good investment.

I saw mainly fine looking homes especially in 'Miami' but they were not constructed from solid materials. And if you go into 'Downtown Miami' you see plenty of run down 'shacks' most Nigerians would refuse to sleep in. I 'swear' there were places where there was no light! (no go area's)

Moving on to the debt situation - A majority of Americans have lived above their means for years. Purchasing all sorts of 'toys' on credit just to feed their egos. Also its shocking to see maybe  7/10 people who are considerably overweight. Seems the yanks have become accustomed to over eating with the use of their credit cards. Most dont even seem to acknowledge that they look abnormal.

I think the level of stress they experience is linked to the amount of debt they as a country and individually owe.
Officially the country owes 14 Trillion but this doesn't account for their unfunded liabilities eg Social Security, Medicare, Pensions etc. Taking all these into account then 'America' is actually in debt to the tune of over 100 trllion and they dont have the means to pay it back. I'm confident that if Nigeria focused on repaying our debts it could be achieved in a few short years.

The culture is completely messed up. The blend of all these displaced people like african americans, latinos, irish americans, cubans,italian american, etc result in the country not actually having a unique culture. It seems these groups tend to live in 'ghettos' amongst their own people. Such an environment is devastating to any Nigerian born and raised there or who has lived there for over maybe 5 years. They loose their sense of identity and become 'messed up' also. The same cannot be said of Nigeria.

dayokanu:

Compare house in NYC with house in Lekki and Asokoro and lets know what you have.

Odumchi,

Texas is one of the biggest state and has one of the cheapest real Estates for an economically viable state

For 200k you would get the equivalent of a mansion in Nigeria. In an area with security, Good roads, Good schools that doesnt flood

I live in Texas and I know this

ekt_bear:

This complaining about homes in the US is a bit dumb. As @oyb points out, when you buy a home in Nigeria, you become your own LGA. You must provide your own power, security, buy education for your kids, etc.

When you buy a house in the US, you don't have to hire your own security, supply your own power, etc. If you keep up with your property taxes, you can also send your kids to the local schools for free.

Trash taken away for free.
That home I linked to earlier, property taxes are $6500 annually. So if you have 4 kids, you can send them all to the public schools there for free (assuming you've kept up with your taxes).

How much do you think your average wealthy Nigerian spends annually on educating his children? Probably $5k+/kid.

Nigeria is an extremely expensive place, man

trueword:

Everyone does not pay property tax. That is for those who live in a home they bought and not those that live in apartments,etc.  Public education from K-12th grade is free in most or all places whether you pay taxes or not b/c some people who are very low income don't make enough to pay taxes but they kids can still attend public grade school.

So you really have a garbage truck that comes to your house and picks up garbage for free? I find that hard to believe, unless you don't own your own home.

dayokanu:

Compare house in NYC with house in Lekki and Asokoro and lets know what you have.

Odumchi,

Texas is one of the biggest state and has one of the cheapest real Estates for an economically viable state

For 200k you would get the equivalent of a mansion in Nigeria. In an area with security, Good roads, Good schools that doesnt flood

I live in Texas and I know this

ekt_bear:

You pay property taxes explicitly if you own your own home, and implicitly even if you rent. Your landlord will tack on the tax into your rent.
I guess nothing is really "free", again you pay for it through some tax/fee of some sort. But yeah, you just put the trash in your bins then haul it out in front of your house on trash day.

GAR3TH:

Are you sure? The average 4 bedroom home in New York is Around $350k, and these are suburban homes 40 to 50 miles from NY city.

I didn't know chicago was that bad of a city, or is the home you mention in a bad neighborhood,

Feel free to search.

http://www.homes.com/For-Sale/NY/ISLIP/maxprice=500000&listing_type=RESALE_FORECLOSURE

alj harem:

very good thread OP

now all you listed actually make America better than Nigeria

In america, talents are discovered daily, but Nigeria, talents are left to rot

In America, if you can't afford a house, you can get a loan or morgage in Nigeria NO

In america, You have all the basic amenities ready-ly avaliable for u but nigeria NO

i can go on and on and on

America can never be worse than Nigeria. That is a fact

Sun of god:

'Nwanne Pant Bomber' - Please go on and on with your trash!!!

That America is better than your so called country?

(Ignoramous)

alj harem:

In what sense is Nigeria better than America then. Educate us and don't call me an ignoramus or bomber

Sun of god:

I didn't call you a 'Pant Bomber (But your brother) but you are an ignoramous.

To keep it simple for your 'Northern/Kanuri Simple Mind' - does Nigeria owe at least $14 Trillion +

dayokanu:

^^ It would be better for Nigeria to have that debt and have Americas infrastructures.

[size=14pt]Its like a man living under the bridge consoling himself that he doesnt have Dangotes size of debt[/size]

ekt_bear:

Alj Harem, I would suggest that you not pay this guy any mind lest he teach you nonsense. He says some of the dumbest things I've seen before on this forum, ever.

It is better to be a simple kanuri man than an educated illiterate, heh. At least the simple kanuri knows what is obvious.

dayokanu:

^^ It would be better for Nigeria to have that debt and have Americas infrastructures.

Its like a man living under the bridge consoling himself that he doesnt have Dangotes size of debt

ekt_bear:

Alj Harem, I would suggest that you not pay this guy any mind lest he teach you nonsense. He says some of the dumbest things I've seen before on this forum, ever.

It is better to be a simple kanuri man than an educated illiterate, heh. At least the simple kanuri knows what is obvious.