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Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by mbulela: 10:06pm On Jul 28, 2011
No one has still explained to me how this bill is more important than a bill aimed at reducing the number of ministers that the constitution requires.
a reduction that will have a direct impact on the cost of governance in this country.a cost that makes sane minds what if the cost of this democracy is worth it at all.
i would have expected GEJ to send that kind of bill,which the NASS will likely fight against,then we the masses will know who our true and perceived enemies are.
Instead he sends this cryptic bill that needs soothsayers to decode its relevance in the scheme of things.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by gaddafe(m): 10:18pm On Jul 28, 2011
POTUT:

GEJ's single-tenure plan is not wrong! Some of the initially reported details could actually be better polished. For instance, why six years? Why not stay at four years?

However, Nigerians have been treated to a plethora of deceptions by their leaders in the past and are currently a nation of cynics and mistrustful people.

As usual, the so-called opposition in Nigeria have nothing to offer but name-calling and bad blood. Ideological engagement is something they do not understand.

Still, this is a democracy and ideas are free to flow, not blow.


Seconded.

I'm a good follower of  ACN but this particular statement tendered by the ACN is DISAPPOINTING and EMBARASSING.
The bill has not been forwarded to the house of Assembly. I think they  should wait for the bill to be sent to the house in order for them to have more details before criticizing. The bill is still in progress,  they should wait

aribisala0:



this has never been discussed inside the PDP.
this guy is not a leader and very obviously does not understand nigeria .




Do you knowing the kind of political party PDP is, think that they will support such an action.
He is a good leader but certainly not the type Nigeria needs at this crucial time.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by dayokanu(m): 10:28pm On Jul 28, 2011
gaddafe:

Do you knowing the kind of political party PDP is, think that they will support such an action.
He is a good leader but certainly not the type Nigeria needs at this crucial time.


What can possibly be good about Goofluck odechukwu retardeen who thinks Prayers is the solution to crime and Nigerians should not panic because bomb blasts happen all over the world
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Gbawe: 10:46pm On Jul 28, 2011
gaddafe:


Seconded.

I'm a good follower of  ACN but this particular statement tendered by the ACN is DISAPPOINTING and EMBARASSING.
The bill has not been forwarded to the house of Assembly. I think they  should wait for the bill to be sent to the house in order for them to have more details before criticizing. The bill is still in progress,  they should wait


It can only be "disappointing" and "embarrassing" to you because you are not a "good follower" of the ACN as you claim. You are just another mischief maker looking to take pot shots at the Party. You should reveal your real intentions because you don't sound genuine to anyone when you round on those opposing a clearly fraudulent and self-serving bill that , frankly, is the least of Nigeria's many [/b]serious problems.

Everything the ACN have said is spot on . The only person to be criticised here is GEJ for chasing shadows while guilty of dereliction of duty with how he has time for this frivolous bill yet he is [b]totally
inactive as per the numerous serious problems bedeviling Nigeria . Boko Haram is moving us closer to chaos that may precipitate civil/ethnic strife yet all GEJ can do is look out for his own selfish interest. You should save your "disappointment" and "embarrassment" for GEJ because if you know the meaning of both words you will know that it is only Jonathan who is disappointing and embarrassing Nigerians .
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by phemi01(m): 10:53pm On Jul 28, 2011
I'm happy you all can see for yourselves that pdp has nothing to offer this country, even. A cn doesn't make any sense. They are all greedy n heartless people.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by wesley80(m): 11:31pm On Jul 28, 2011
Gbawe:

It can only be "disappointing" and "embarrassing" to you because you are not a "good follower" of the ACN as you claim. You are just another mischief maker looking to take pot shots at the Party. You should reveal your real intentions because you don't sound genuine to anyone when you round on those opposing a clearly fraudulent and self-serving bill that , frankly, is the least of Nigeria's [b]many [/b]serious problems.

Everything the ACN have said is spot on .

Lol, and since when did becoming a good follower of ACN become an attribute? Oturugbeke, see dedicated follower. That u even think an objective criticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH. riticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Kobojunkie: 11:39pm On Jul 28, 2011
wesley80:

You guys r just being overly cynical. I'm yet to read any real constructive criticism so far and its unfortunate that none of you is willing to consider the flip side of something you've expended so much energy criticizing. The bill has got merits and demerits and if all you guys see are the demerits, then its most unfortunate.

How does one go about constructively criticize what does not even make sense to begin with? I am waiting for you to inform us of the benefits, if any, of this bill or the idea of it, especially as pertains to the Nigerian/African context.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by wesley80(m): 12:31am On Jul 29, 2011
^^^ I'm pretty certain anyone that is yet to see any merit in the bill has only deliberately chosen not to. Perhaps its the usual Gej effect playing out on you guys. Why not pretend the bill was sent in by say Wole Soyinka or better still, your idol Buhari, I'm sure u'll begin to see some of the positives. Just give it a try cos i'm also certain a man that was chosen by an overwhelming majority to lead a country of a 150m people wld not send a completely worthless bill to the legislature.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Kobojunkie: 12:43am On Jul 29, 2011
wesley80:

^^^ I'm pretty certain anyone that is yet to see any merit in the bill has only deliberately chosen not to. Perhaps its the usual Gej effect playing out on you guys. Why not pretend the bill was sent in by say Wole Soyinka or better still, your idol Buhari, I'm sure u'll begin to see some of the positives. Just give it a try cos i'm also certain a man that was chosen by an overwhelming majority to lead a country of a 150m people wld not send a completely worthless bill to the legislature.

Kobojunkie:

How does one go about constructively criticize what does not even make sense to begin with? I am waiting for you to inform us of the benefits, if any, of this bill or the idea of it, especially as pertains to the Nigerian/African context.


Note that I am asking you questions so I can get a better idea of where you are coming from here.

You are completely wrong by the way on your assumptions of those who are not on the same of this as you are, so may I suggest you stay clear of trying to figure people out and focus more on explaining what it is you see, that we obviously don't, in this.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Hoodrat(m): 12:57am On Jul 29, 2011
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Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Nobody: 7:29am On Jul 29, 2011
At least Wesley and co are no longer feeding us with the garbage of learning curve.
Please,tell us how this bill will improve the quality of lives of millions of Nigerians stranded just by the fact that they happen to be Nigerians.
We are waiting.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by raystanley(m): 8:01am On Jul 29, 2011
You all are fooools, you have forgtten, during that last election vatually, everyone here were haillin Gedi,  Gedi, ( gej) for president, then I wailed for My dear NIGERIANS oh,  I knew the Vilage Niconpoo was using your ill-fated brains.

I also knew it then that the Illiterate Gedi,  Gedi, ( gej)  had noting but an Empty vessle to offer for NIGERIANS but am wondering how a SWAMP-Village FISHER MAN could hold Nigerians ransom. I still prefer BUHARI even IBB to the MALU, 

Even a foreign WIKILEAK said it all.

It will only take a Baby's brain to solve Nigeria Problem when Nigerians are ready,

I know d foool had use NIGERIANS Tax money to rogger
The NAJA-DELTA'S MILITANT, for silence. But d BOKO-HARANS would'nt give in to d dam! cheep shit!

I dont mind tellinG Nigerians the truth and DIE,

STANLEY. O
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by raystanley(m): 8:33am On Jul 29, 2011
You all are fooools, you have forgtten, during that last election vatually, everyone here were haillin Gedi,  Gedi, ( gej) for president, then I wailed for My dear NIGERIANS oh,  I knew the Vilage Niconpoo was using your ill-fated brains.

I also knew it then that the Illiterate Gedi,  Gedi, ( gej)  had noting but an Empty vessle to offer for NIGERIANS but am wondering how a SWAMP-Village FISHER MAN could hold Nigerians to ransom. I still prefer BUHARI even IBB to the MALU, 

Even a foreign WIKILEAK said it all.

It will only take a Baby's brain to solve Nigeria Problem when Nigerians are ready,

I know d foool had use NIGERIANS Tax money to rogger
The NAIJA-DELTA'S MILITANT, for silence. But d BOKO-HARANS would'nt give in to d dam! cheep shit!

I dont mind tellinG Nigerians the truth and DIE,

STANLEY. O
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by raystanley(m): 8:37am On Jul 29, 2011
You all are fooools, you have forgtten, during that last election vatually, everyone here were haillin Gedi, Gedi, ( gej) for president, then I wailed for My dear NIGERIANS oh, I knew the Vilage Niconpoo was using your ill-fated brains.

I also knew it then that the Illiterate Gedi, Gedi, ( gej) had noting but an Empty vessle to offer for NIGERIANS but am wondering how a SWAMP-Village FISHER MAN could hold Nigerians ransom. I still prefer BUHARI even IBB to the MALU,

Even a foreign WIKILEAK said it all.

It will only take a Baby's brain to solve Nigeria Problem when Nigerians are ready,

I know d foool had use NIGERIANS Tax money to rogger
The NAJA-DELTA'S MILITANT, for silence. But d BOKO-HARANS would'nt give in to d dam! cheep shit!

I dont mind tellinG Nigerians the truth and DIE,

STANLEY. O
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by raystanley(m): 8:40am On Jul 29, 2011
You all are fooools, you have forgtten, during that last election vatually, everyone here were haillin Gedi, Gedi, ( gej) for president, then I wailed for My dear NIGERIANS oh, I knew the Vilage Niconpoo was using your ill-fated brains.

I also knew it then that the Illiterate Gedi, Gedi, ( gej) had noting but an Empty vessle to offer for NIGERIANS but am wondering how a SWAMP-Village FISHER MAN could hold Nigerians ransom. I still prefer BUHARI even IBB to the MALU,

Even a foreign WIKILEAK said it all.

It will only take a Baby's brain to solve Nigeria Problem when Nigerians are ready,

I know d foool had use NIGERIANS Tax money to rogger
The NAJA-DELTA'S MILITANT, for silence. But d BOKO-HARANS would'nt give in to d dam! cheep shit!

I dont mind tellinG Nigerians the truth and DIE,

STANLEY. O
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by DAY12(m): 10:23am On Jul 29, 2011
^^^

Nnkan be! sad
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by sweet9ja: 11:23am On Jul 29, 2011
ak francis:

why are we criticizing the bill? we should try and give goodluck jonathan the benefit of the doubt. no politicians in Nigeria today are better than Goodluck. most of the politicians who are criticizing the bill became millions through politic.Tinubu, the leader of the ACN should set agenda for the ACN Controlled states and get rid of area boys in every bustop in Lagos and the omo onile syndrome which are endemic in the southwest region instead of diverting the attention the south western people against the unwholesome reality in the south western region. anyone who is thinking that the ACN has a good agenda for the country should have is head properly examined. What serious opposition have the senators and house of representative given to the ruling party PDP in the house?the southwest may be crying fowl because they lost out in the PDP zoning arrangement. this is the dire consequence of regional politic. you cannot eat your cake and have it. The six year single term will help stabilize the polity and sustain our fragile democracy and social -economic development if the president will not benefit from the bill. we should shun sentiment in criticizing the federal government and stop voting for area boys as senators, representative and party leaders. we should elect the intellectual that will contribute to national development. the earlier we realize this, the better for us all.
Thank God there are still free thinking people left, I totally agree with you. What have we archieved with the 2X4 year term that's being practised? The bill if passed by NAS, could bring long tearn solution to the high cost of electioneering campaigns, good governance, economic development and political stability. Nigerians should concern themselves with making sure that GEJ or/and the current govs don't benefit from it and leave the rest up to the NAS.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Gbawe: 12:52pm On Jul 29, 2011
wesley80:

Lol, and since when did becoming a good follower of ACN become an attribute? Oturugbeke, see dedicated follower. That u even think an objective criticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH. riticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH.


You even copied and pasted twice (after 4 hours practice I bet ) to get your redundant drivel across. Have you noticed that your co-traveller (Beaf) , who is far more dogged than you  IMO , is gone? He has been banned uncountable times yet he remained here under different aliases. This time , perhaps after realising the futility of supporting the champion of the AGIPs and "owners of Nigeria",  your  'buddy' is gone for good. The leader of your pathetic gang of shameless sycophants has jumped ship.

Go back and search NL archives and you will see that I told Beaf he would leave Nairaland disgraced in future because , after insulting others and making so much noise fo GEJ, his position here would no longer be tenable when Jonathan begins to stink out the joint seriously. I am predicting the same fo you. You will dissapear in disgrace also because GEJ is only capable of ruining things. He will do worse than what we are seeing now and you wll run away to hide your head in shame as Beaf has now done.
Re: Jonathan's Single-tenure Proposal Fraudulent, Self-serving . ACN. by Kobojunkie: 1:04pm On Jul 29, 2011
sweet9ja:

Thank God there are still free thinking people left, I totally agree with you. What have we archieved with the 2X4 year term that's being practised? The bill if passed by NAS, could bring long tearn solution to the high cost of electioneering campaigns, good governance, economic development and political stability.  Nigerians should concern themselves with making sure that GEJ or/and the current govs don't benefit from it and leave the rest up to the NAS.

So, in your mind, because we have not achieved much with the 4 year term, it makes sense then to INCREASE it to 6 years?

P.S  . . ,  Stop letting folks FOOL you with the speak that there is an 8 year term. That is not true. After the first 4 years, the people get to decide if the person gets another 4 years. That is how it happens. There is no such thing as guaranteed 2 X 4 year term. Obasanjo had to be RE-selected by the Nigerian people.

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