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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Jack500: 12:24pm On Jul 12, 2022
Enwhen:



Good...I have marked ur monicker ...when campaign start and after election, I will mention u...

The 25% northern christains is gone already for APC, join with the Southern christians , ATiku is our next president , let him just get 50% from the north , many of u would be shocked

grin grin
Keep fooling yourself. February is here
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by SIONKPO1(m): 12:25pm On Jul 12, 2022
@garfield1,I will like to know your Views on APC muslim-muslim ticket
Thanks
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Reference(m): 12:28pm On Jul 12, 2022
What people fail to realise is that a loss of communication is always a percusor to conflicts.
Where there are lines of communication there will always be a possibility of resolutions before or during conflicts. That is why democracies are underpinned by 'Representatives' whether in Presidential or Parliamentary versions of democracy. That is why nations have embassies in other nations.

It is fundamental that peoples have representatives at the highest levels of government to hear them out.
Nigeria is even more unique because the Executive holds all the aces in government so a fair share and balance of ethnicity and religion at the Executive level is fundamental for the stability of the country.

Someone was even suggesting that having gone this far what is the guarantee that other principal offices in the Legislature will not be 'given' to folks of the same faith as the proposed Executive. Simply because it appears sacrifice and solidarity has been thrown under the bus by a section of Nigeria who has had it good these past 7 years but still will not make way for others a time in the sun.

When folks say that even with Mr. Osinbajo the lot of Christians in Nigeria has been dismal so it does not matter, they fail to also realise what will have happened if there was no one to even hear them out, will it not have given rise to self help and more militancy amongst Christians.

The APC should really think this thing through.
Personally like most others, ultimately it should not matter if we seek 'performance' in governance, but this can only happen in a 'restructured' country where we ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY AGREE TO SHELVE RELIGION and perhaps ETHNICITY and many other dead-weights to our collective progress. Then for instance as we have accepted a muslim-muslim ticket it will also mean the 'core north' will simultaneously have accepted a Christian-Christian ticket next time or whenever the time comes, then everyone will presently be at peace.

But as it is with no previous discourse towards this move and with no previous agreements with the stakeholders, it is just a huge risk.
And I repeat again, any religious infraction during this proposed government particularly one that Christians bear the brunt will potentially light the fuse on the powder keg the APC has built simply because there will be no one for the Christian side to communicate with in government.

P.S. The whole incident once again exposes the need to restructure Nigeria.
I always say that without restructuring Nigeria cannot have qualitative leadership elected.
On the part of leadership the APC claims it has shelved religion for performance. Is the Bornu ex-governor the best performer amongst all northern candidates, even the ones of the muslim faith??.... no.
On the part of the citizens even if Mr. Tinubu is the best candidate the way it stands now he will be elected or not on the basis of religion. not competency as people will either gravitate towards or away from him on that basis.... sad.

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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Healthquest: 12:29pm On Jul 12, 2022
Aidejay:
Honestly!

A Christian - Christian ticket in this country will never fly, infact some christians won't vote for you. You know Nigerian christians and how they like to behave like sanctimonious dingbats who love doctrine and virtue signaling.
Don't expect such level of credence from Muslims tho. They seem to understand Nigerian politics as one of sentiments rather than facts.

So 2023 your choice is either returning the north to Aso rock via Atiku for another 8 years or voting two muslims.
tight rope I must say but southwestern Muslim are very tolerant. I'll b looking into it but another fulani 4 8yrs after Buhari is totally scary

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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Truthisunique2: 12:32pm On Jul 12, 2022
Healthquest:
tight rope I must say but southwestern Muslim are very tolerant. I'll b looking into it but another fulani 4 8yrs after Buhari is totally scary
there is nothing tolerant about Tinubu

He only sees south through Yoruba prism

And he gives northern muslims more prefence than even his own tribe

If Obi can't get it let Atiku get it, Atiku is at peace with everyone there is no Fear about him

He is more detrabalized than Tinubu
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Bbdiyya: 12:32pm On Jul 12, 2022
07kjb:
This APC ticket is a dangerous one,if u are a Yoruba man forget sentiment o.
This ticket is a time bomb to northern Christian's who are about 35% of Northern population

This ticket is a treat to our national security

Make una go read how TURKEY BECAME AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY

WE SHOULD RISE UP AGAINST THIS IT SHOULDN'T STAND
A very big lie 35% for where?
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Angelfrost(m): 12:35pm On Jul 12, 2022
Softmirror:


IF HE HAD CHOSEN TINUBU AS IT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN BUHARI WOULD HAVE PERFORMED FAR BETTER. THAT WAS BUHARI'S GREATEST POLITICAL MISTAKE. HIS CHOICE OF OSINBAJO

Tinubu would have done what as VP??! Lol!

You people are trying too hard! grin
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Franking: 12:35pm On Jul 12, 2022
That's what u get for taking people for granted.
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Alakra1: 12:35pm On Jul 12, 2022
Ibkhaleel01:
WE the North ARE QUIET BUT NOT DUMB
In the second Republic, the late Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, the presidential candidate of NPP, picked a northern Christian, Prof. Ishaya Audu as his running mate, thereby flying a Christian-Christian ticket. However, the presidential candidate of UPN, the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo, went a notch higher by flying not only a Christian-
Christian ticket, but also a southern-southern one, when he picked, as his running mate and Igbo man, the late Chief Umeadi. In both instances, however, Muslims in Nigeria did not abuse anyone nor threatened thunder and brimstones. Instead, they chose
from the array of the presidential tickets the one which they felt could protect their interests- NPN which flew a Muslim- Christian ticket.
wonder what is so difficult for those who
are aggrieved or outraged by Tinubu's
audacity, in borrowing a leaf from the
reaction of the Muslims in 1979 when the precedent was set.
And who eventually won the election back then ? Shagari who team up with Christian VP

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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by rippa(m): 12:36pm On Jul 12, 2022
Honjoshy4u:
We are getting there gradually.
All sane Nigerians that cherish a peaceful coexistence and love for our country must by all means denounce APC muslim muslim ticket and embrace a better path for unity and progress.

Thanks Tonye.
Thanks to all sane muslims and great Nigerians. We have already defeated the old greedy bullion van thief in boudilon.
You want to defeat an old greedy bullion van thief with another old greedy athiefniku?
Nawa for u oo
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Softmirror: 12:37pm On Jul 12, 2022
Angelfrost:


Tinubu would have done what as VP??! Lol!

You people are trying too hard! grin

SO, WHY ALL THE OUT CRY ABOUT TINUBU'S CHOICE OF VP IF TINUBU CAN DO NOTHING grin?
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by rippa(m): 12:37pm On Jul 12, 2022
Aidejay:
Honestly!

A Christian - Christian ticket in this country will never fly, infact some christians won't vote for you. You know Nigerian christians and how they like to behave like sanctimonious dingbats who love doctrine and virtue signaling.
Don't expect such level of credence from Muslims tho. They seem to understand Nigerian politics as one of sentiments rather than facts.

So 2023 your choice is either returning the north to Aso rock via Atiku for another 8 years or voting two muslims.
By now the northerners would have started killing the Christians in the north if is the other way round
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Ddokie: 12:41pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
Atiku is a real Muslim so what ever "credence" you talking is wishful thinking

we christians prefer a real fulani Muslim there balancing southern majority interest who are christians via VP

This fake southern unity from Yoruba Muslims is not in the interest of the south

Tinubu have never represented south interest

Well, i have always held that if Obi doesn't win, let Tinubu win. But with this new development, If Obi doesn't win, let Atiku win.

It is better we move from one northerner to another northerner than to have a Muslim/Muslim ticket. Far better sef.

How can Tinibu try this rubbish. It seems his physical degradation has also affected him mentally. He will be worse than Buhari as president.

For Peter Obi to win, he will have to clear the SE/SS and MB. If he isn't able to do that, it means Atiku will get a large chunk from those areas. Adding that to what AA will get in the north, that should get him to victory.

But Tinubu, No Way. God forbid.

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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by rippa(m): 12:44pm On Jul 12, 2022
Splitmind:
So many religion bigots everywhere, are we are not enjoying development under a Muslim president right now?

Don't worry leave, Amechi can leave too, we don't need Igbos from Port Harcourt in APC.


#BATSHET2023
This one is not normal
You are saying religion bigot and yet displaying tribal bigot here.
U can't support IPOB but can support a boko haram founder and sponsor.
How damaged ur brain is
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Truthisunique2: 12:46pm On Jul 12, 2022
Ddokie:


Well, i have always held that if Obi doesn't win, let Tinubu win. But with this new development, If Obi doesn't win, let Atiku win.

It is better we move from one northerner to another northerner than to have a Muslim/Muslim ticket. Far better sef.

How can Tinibu try this rubbish. It seems his physical degradation has also affected him mentally. He will be worse than Buhari as president.

For Peter Obi to win, he will have to clear the SE/SS and MB. If he isn't able to do that, it means Atiku will get a large chunk from those areas. Adding that to what AA will get in the north, that should get him to victory.

But Tinubu, No Way. God forbid.
Atiku is way better than Tinubu

He is more detrabalized than him, he puts more effort than Tinubu to breach the divide between young and old, north and south, Christian and Muslim

And his style of taking everybody along in government is better than Tinubu excluding style
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Angelfrost(m): 12:49pm On Jul 12, 2022
Softmirror:


SO, WHY ALL THE OUT CRY ABOUT TINUBU'S CHOICE OF VP IF TINUBU CAN DO NOTHING grin?

Good question!

You see, while the position of VP is ceremonial and near useless (as long as the President is hale and hearty), it still remains a uniting factor for a nation as fragile and divided as Nigeria.

We have never been this religiously and ethnically divided as we are currently! Carrying both major divides along maintains that fragile balance! Disregarding the other out of your need to Garner votes will not augur well for all in the long run.

Obasanjo knew this in 1999... Yar'Adua took this into proper consideration later on...

Jonathan worked within that fragile balance... Even extremist Buhari knew better than unnecessarily ruffle feathers.

All of a sudden, Tinubu suddenly feels he can undo the balance and still get away with it! Come now! Where is the wisdom in such a selfish political move?!!

Well, I wish him well... I hope the Northerners who claim to be behind him in this desperate move will actually leave their own Northern Muslim (Atiku) who did the right or accepted thing in his choice of running mate, and vote for him.

In all these, time will tell... All eyes on the Northern Muslims! It was already hard getting Southerners on board, with this move, it just got more difficult for APC and Tinubu!
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Healthquest: 12:52pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
there is nothing tolerant about Tinubu

He only sees south through Yoruba prism

And he gives northern muslims more prefence than even his own tribe

If Obi can't get it let Atiku get it, Atiku is at peace with everyone there is no Fear about him

He is more detrabalized than Tinubu
you're already talking like a party man.

I belong to no party and you can decide to give me Atiku after 8yrs of fulani, dats very very inconsiderate.
PDP goofed big time trying to win 2023 by giving Atiku after 8yrs of buhari. No now.


We r not slaves. It's better PO take it. I can never allow ATIKU. He's bringing nothing , u even say Tinubu is not detrablize? Shows you're a Pdp man. Tinubu has a pastor wife abeg.
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Billygee2u: 12:55pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
Tinubu want controversy and controversy he will get

Na stone he go receive across the north his party have reduced to ransom region
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by ogbuefi677(m): 12:55pm On Jul 12, 2022
Ibkhaleel01:
Peter Obi sold the dumb ideology that APC is Islamic Party, and must be treated like a leper
Peter Obi is the founder of hate speech in Igbo land, and the sponsor of IPOB indirectly, he is the worse sadist I have ever seen, he discriminates even among Catholics and other religions in Anambra state during his time as governor, forget that his mosquito voice.

Why did he redesigned Hero larger beer with Biafra flag, do you think he doesn't know what he is doing?
He is the problems on Ndi lgbo politically. I hope karma visits him and Osita Chidoka for all the damage they brought
Dead propaganda from miyetti Allah WhatsApp group

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Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Billygee2u: 12:55pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
Amaechi was not kidding when he said Niger deltans are angry with apc

This new insensitive ticket is generating anger in the region that's feeding this country

Can Nigeria afford Niger delta to join seccesion call because of a fake Muslim ambition?
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Billygee2u: 12:56pm On Jul 12, 2022
PaChukwudi44:
Now the complete OBIdience of the SS/SE is confirmed
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Oluwabusobomi(f): 12:58pm On Jul 12, 2022
This I have seen, Peter Obi as at today have the following states:
1. Rivers
2. Akwa-Ibom
3. Delta
4. Edo
5. Cross- River
6. Bayelsa
7. Enugu
8. Anambra
9. Imo
10. Enonyi
11. Abia
12. Benue
13. Plateau
14. Kaduna
15. Taraba
16. Abuja

Plus a very good outing (40%) in all south west states except Ogun and Osun for now.

Good outing in Christian dominated North East areas

At least 25% in the remaining Northern states

ObiDatti is a goal
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by wiseoneking: 1:04pm On Jul 12, 2022
Maxymilliano:


I like his argument, you can be pushing for equity and same time supporting same-faith ticket

This is just the beginning, A Vote for APC is a vote for Boko Haram founders.
Nna this your slogan is a topnotch to finish APC..... "a vote for APC is a vote for Boko Haram founders " . You don Finnish them
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Truthisunique2: 1:04pm On Jul 12, 2022
Healthquest:
you're already talking like a party man.

I belong to no party and you can decide to give me Atiku after 8yrs of fulani, dats very very inconsiderate.
PDP goofed big time trying to win 2023 by giving Atiku after 8yrs of buhari. No now.


We r not slaves. It's better PO take it. I can never allow ATIKU. He's bringing nothing , u even say Tinubu is not detrablize? Shows you're a Pdp man. Tinubu has a pastor wife abeg.
My brother, I am just like you not a party man, I didn't even support this Atiku until amaechi lost primaries

I was rooting for Amaechi, the reality is we don't have option aside Atiku, when campaign start you would begin to understand politics is deeper than social media construct

The voting pattern of this country is still divided by religion and ethnicity, it's the equivalent of the Liberal/Conservative block you find in the west

So expecting sensational radical change won't happen unless the major political party of PDP/APC present that avenue

It took years to get those two party to the tap root of every nook and cranny

Tinubu government is not going to help us, he believes in suffocating the public for the enrichment of a few, he doesn't allow politicians under him to arise outside where he placed them

He married Christian wife doesn't make him detrabalized, go and see the Kwara bigot gov that is fighting christians he too has Christian wife
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Softmirror: 1:07pm On Jul 12, 2022
Angelfrost:


Good question!

You see, while the position of VP is ceremonial and near useless (as long as the President is hale and hearty), it still remains a uniting factor for a nation as fragile and divided as Nigeria.

We have never been this religiously and ethnically divided as we are currently! Carrying both major divides along maintains that fragile balance! Disregarding the other out of your need to Garner votes will not augur well for all in the long run.

Obasanjo knew this in 1999... Yar'Adua took this into proper consideration later on...

Jonathan worked within that fragile balance... Even extremist Buhari knew better than unnecessarily ruffle feathers.

All of a sudden, Tinubu suddenly feels he can undo the balance and still get away with it! Come now! Where is the wisdom in such a selfish political move?!!

Well, I wish him well... I hope the Northerners who claim to be behind him in this desperate move will actually leave their own Northern Muslim (Atiku) who did the right or accepted thing in his choice of running mate, and vote for him.

In all these, time will tell... All eyes on the Northern Muslims! It was already hard getting Southerners on board, with this move, it just got more difficult for APC and Tinubu!

WE HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS RELIGIOUSLY AND ETHICALLY DIVIDED IS A FALSE POSTULATION. WHAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR NIGERIA'S CIVIL WAR?

Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Truthisunique2: 1:11pm On Jul 12, 2022
Angelfrost:


Good question!

You see, while the position of VP is ceremonial and near useless (as long as the President is hale and hearty), it still remains a uniting factor for a nation as fragile and divided as Nigeria.

We have never been this religiously and ethnically divided as we are currently! Carrying both major divides along maintains that fragile balance! Disregarding the other out of your need to Garner votes will not augur well for all in the long run.

Obasanjo knew this in 1999... Yar'Adua took this into proper consideration later on...

Jonathan worked within that fragile balance... Even extremist Buhari knew better than unnecessarily ruffle feathers.

All of a sudden, Tinubu suddenly feels he can undo the balance and still get away with it! Come now! Where is the wisdom in such a selfish political move?!!

Well, I wish him well... I hope the Northerners who claim to be behind him in this desperate move will actually leave their own Northern Muslim (Atiku) who did the right or accepted thing in his choice of running mate, and vote for him.

In all these, time will tell... All eyes on the Northern Muslims! It was already hard getting Southerners on board, with this move, it just got more difficult for APC and Tinubu!
Judiciary is the 3rd arm of government yet sharia Muslim judges that act 100% on religious ground are allowed to be admitted into it, and even head the entire government arm supretending over secular state

In all secular state in the west you don't have sharia religious judges mixing with state

What this means is we don't even operate secular state, Muslims have already compromised it to a religious one and can't tell us "competence" hold sway before balancing

It is the balancing of this elective post that gives them that corrective check that Nigeria is still a multi facet state when taking decisions
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by paramakina202: 1:13pm On Jul 12, 2022
The greediness of Yoruba muslims is second to none.
Have that MURIC terrorist said anything yet?
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by WhizdomXX(m): 1:17pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
Atiku is a real Muslim so what ever "credence" you talking is wishful thinking

we christians prefer a real fulani Muslim there balancing southern majority interest who are christians via VP

This fake southern unity from Yoruba Muslims is not in the interest of the south

Tinubu have never represented south interest
Peter Obi/Baba Ahmed ticket is the best option for the Christain voter.
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Agadinaagwuofe: 1:27pm On Jul 12, 2022
Monimatic:
Tinubu scored a political own goal with his choice of a Boko Haram apologist
He can no longer get block Vote in the south west, cos from today campaign against Muslim Muslim ticket Begins across all churches from south west to south South to south east down to the North.
Nobody will be bold enough to come and campaign for Tinubu(APC) Muslim Muslim ticket in any church or christian gathering in the south west, he/she will be Stoned on the pulpit, booed and chased away

Aside online nobody will be proud to defend this in large Christian community not even the Governors can boldly talk about it in their LG. It is the height of insolence on a backdrop of too many Christians dying due to religious crisis, Why is ok for southerners to accept what the northerners can't accept? Under no circumstance should this Muslim/Muslim ticket fly because that will be the end of Christianity and beginning of intense persecution by Christians.
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Angelfrost(m): 1:34pm On Jul 12, 2022
Truthisunique2:
Judiciary is the 3rd arm of government yet sharia Muslim judges that act 100% on religious ground are allowed to be admitted into it, and even head the entire government arm supretending over secular state

In all secular state in the west you don't have sharia religious judges mixing with state

What this means is we don't even operate secular state, Muslims have already compromised it to a religious one and can't tell us "competence" hold sway before balancing

It is the balancing of this elective post that gives them that corrective check that Nigeria is still a multi facet state when taking decisions

Tinubu boys don't seem to understand this simple thing... They think everyone is stupid!

All of a sudden they are now preaching "Competence"! When day break?!!

Would they have preached "Competence" if Jonathan or Yaradua had done this?!!

Hypocritical clowns!
Re: Tonye Princewill Quits APC Over Muslim-Muslim Ticket by garfield1: 1:37pm On Jul 12, 2022
SIONKPO1:
@garfield1,I will like to know your Views on APC muslim-muslim ticket
Thanks

I support it

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