FiremanX:
Keep shut dude,,,u think everyone is a low thinking human like u,,,just look at how you are justifying nonsense which obviously means u lack basic education and have a low iq,,,,which educated person in his right sense will spew the balderdash u spewed?

u are a total disgrace to ur race

Another angry boy. Have your fun, I cant win you in your dirty fight.

That's brings us back to what I said in the other political thread the other day.. Our main problem as a country starts from those very selfish delegates at every political party primaries.

CSTRR:

The problem is corruption.
We are not electing credible people.

Even if we use the Egyptian system, the person in charge would use the opportunity to loot the country blind.

BluntTheApostle:
Egypt is not Nigeria.

Our problem is not just leadership, but structure.

I will keep on saying it.

We need to either create another constitution which is relevant to our national reality or we amend the one we have.

Egypt has a powerful executive arm which is why things get done quickly. You can't compare it to our own FG where the NASS can hold the presidency to ransom just like Bukola Saraki once did.

If you like put Peter Obi there, Nigeria will remain backward until we change our political structure.

If we want to practise federalism, we should practise fiscal federalism similar to that of the United States, and if it is Parliamentary system, we should practise regional republicanism which we practised from 1963-1966.

Or we just mix up different systems like Rwanda, Egypt, and Singapore.

God bless you. A man who gets it completely. Your type are rare not only on Nairaland but in Nigeria generally.

As an example, people talk simplistically about corruption. What does corruption have to do with moving ahead with the times to establish State or regional policing?

We practice a system of Governance almost identical to that of the USA yet they have State policing and we do not.

States of America have their own constitution and near complete autonomy but Nigerian States do not.

Instead we have a system where power is inordinately concentrated in the federal government centre, and in the hands of one single individual who is president, meaning Nigeria's failure or progress may be down to the bias, whims, caprices and even private agenda of one man in a nation we cannot deny is horribly divided along ethnic, religious and sectional lines.

Proof of Nigeria's failure or success lying vulnerably in the hands of one individual, especially if he is extremely biased, dictatorial, unsympathetic to the opinion and positions of others or possessing a sectional agenda, is shown below.

Stunning how one man can just dismiss what every sensible and averagely well-educated Nigerian understands is inevitable and crucial asap.

Ultimately we will keep wasting time looking for one single miracle worker instead of seeking someone willing and able to deliver holistic and long-ignored reforms that will begin to assist Nigeria move forward almost on autopilot.

Nigeria, as currently constituted, will never work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2021/06/those-calling-for-restructuring-naive-dangerous-says-buhari/amp/

Those calling for restructuring naïve, dangerous, says Buhari
June 20, 2021

President Muhammadu Buhari virtually foreclosed the restructuring of Nigeria, Saturday, when he said there was nothing to restructure.

“And again those who are discussing restructuring, my question is, what are you going to restructure? If you ask many Nigerians what they are going to restructure, you will find out that they have nothing to talk about.

CSTRR:

The problem is corruption.
We are not electing credible people.

Even if we use the Egyptian system, the person in charge would use the opportunity to loot the country blind.

If we elect a credible leader, the system will frustrate him.

So, the system is the problem.

Let us suppose Obi is a truly credible leader. He wants to cut cost of governance. How will he do it? The system runs a bicameral legislature. If Obi reduces cost of governance for the presidency, the system does not give him the power to review the bogus allowances that each lawmaker takes home every month.

Bicameralism also slows down decision making. That is why a military dictator has a better chance of doing better than a civilian president in Nigeria.

Supposing Obi wants to make a law that makes the police less corrupt and more efficient, he needs funds but he first has to write to the NASS. The NASS can use 8 years on the bill, and it would not get any headways. The anti-graft bill Buhari sent to NASS is still there after 7 years.

In China, for example, or even Rwanda, if Kigali wants something, he gets it, and quick too. If Buhari wants something, he has to send it to the NASS, and even lobby them to get it passed quickly.

Corruption is too simplistic an excuse.

There is terrible corruption going on in Rwanda, but the country still manages to make headsway.

tctrills:

You brought up many good point that I would have addressed and probably educated you with history and economies but you began to insult now I see you as another educated tout.
Let's just we don't agree

history and economics you say? China built more cities and relocated hundreds of millions of people to them, even though all of the cities werent success stories, but a huge chunk of people were lifted from poverty and live in those cities, working in industries, school, hospitals, transportation etc. they would have all still been subsistence farmers if not the communist party took that step.

confluence:
Just imagine visionary leaders in power. And the president is an Army General in civilian clothes

The current 'forced' unitary system of government, in Nigeria, will continue to be a major drawback against any major development in the country.
We have tried every form of government, in Nigeria and it was only Regionalism, started after 'self rule', in 1955 and after independence, in 1960, that worked.
The experiment was truncated by Nzeogwu and his gangs under the pretext of corruption by the civilian government. The 'hijack' of power, led to the introduction of unitary form of government by General Ironsi, which from all indications, is the bane of our current underdevelopment because the regions were well managed and making progress with the practice of Regionalism, during self rule and after independence.
We have also had different military dictatorships and a diarchy system of government, under IBB, which also failed.
We experimented Presidential system of government in the 2nd Republic before it was truncated by General Muhammadu Buhari, in a military coup.
It will be naive to assume that our political actors will make any effort to correct the 'malaise' of unitary form of government because they are major beneficiaries of the system.
There is really no hope in sight, for any meaningful development in the country, with the current 'forced' unitary form of government we are practising.

The Nation will likely be in a 'fumbling and wobbling' mode until it finally disintegrates, at a time, in the future.
Boko-Haram, Banditry, Biafra agitation, kidnapping and general unrest in the country, have given pointers to that fact.

Built2last:
To everyone who’s wondering what is exactly going on in Egypt ?

This what is going on , a whole new country is under construction, more than $20 trillion for mega projects until 2050

-56 new Air port
-40,000 km new highways
-Reclamation of 15 million new acres
-7 New Capitals
-3800 KM of new Speed Railway
-40 new 4G City
-12 new Harbor
-28 new industrial cities

What egypt did in the last 7 years was only the beginning .. the pharaoh is back , let the world see how Africa will shine again

Source: African Facts Zone

Omo this is a shocking achievement.

ysth:
history and economics you say? China built more cities and relocated hundreds of millions of people to them, even though all of the cities werent success stories, but a huge chunk of people were lifted from poverty and live in those cities, working in industries, school, hospitals, transportation etc. they would have all still been subsistence farmers if not the communist party took that step.

You are the impolite boy but let me answer you this one. China did not lift millions out of poverty by building new cities and moving the poor into them. China lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty through private investments creating millions of jobs in the cities. In case you don't know, the thousands of skyscrapers you see in China are privately owned. The government does not create wealth. China did not go into foreign debt to Build infrastructure. Every single country that has gone into massive debt to build infrastructure ended up in a bad place. Learn about the IMF loans of the 80s. Even with the recent Chinese loan that most nations are taking, By next year, Nigeria would find it unsustainable to pay her debt and manage its economy.
Egypt you point is entering into one of the worst food crises ever. They would need the world bank and richer nations to survive. Their economy was not prepared for the Ukraine war.
The secret to economic growth is not big government projects but allowing the private sector to take off. Ask Korea and Japan. Ask the USA. Just so you know, the first railway in the US was built by a private company. In fact, most of the rail in the US was built by private entities.
China was as poor as Nigeria until it handed over its economy to private hands. Dubai did the same, and Singapore did the same.
Rusia a country with vast minerals, Agricultural land, and tech remains one of the poorest in Europe because its government does not give businesses a free hand. While Estonia a little unknown nation has 10x its economy in the last 20 years not by building projects but by creating a more liberal economy where the government does less.
Finally, learn to disagree with other schools of thought without getting angry. As a man, the ability to control your temper, tame your response, and school your feelings makes you strong.

henrimoto:
... You call those projects useless?... We should not envy their constant power supply and other good basic social amenities? ... The billions of dollars the Nigerian federal government have been borrowing, what are the money used for ? Constant power supply, we no see! At this stage as a crude oil producing Nation, we still import petroleum products into the country! ... And you say we should not envy the present day Egyptian Government... ?

Sometimes I imagine Nigeria not been an oil producing nation, what would be our faith?

MALIGNANTGuest:

The WHITEMAN left Nigeria too early.
How can you introduce something new to a set of primitive people & abandone them right at the onset.? Who does that?
We were still in the woods when they left.
In Fact, only a few had seen light then & most of those few who had contacts with the whites died prematurely before they could instill such down to us. Nigeria is struggling terribly beyond imagination

Why does the same apply to the rest of the black African nations? This is something I find hard to figure out.

nice infrastructures, but what would the citizens be doing as occupations after theses developments?? rest i guess

Obidient4life2:
My brother leave talk, Egypt is not Africa abeg.

It's just like saying Haiti or Jamaica is America.

It's about the people and not the location. If you see pictures of Haiti it's not different from any poor African country.

What the hell are you saying? Are you trying to redefine geography or what?

Thanksful:


Omo this is a shocking achievement.

Almost anything can be achieved with uniformity of purpose, selfless patriotism and sincerity.

Things you're unlikely to get from a nation of over 250 ethnic groups very divided along ethnic, religious and sectional lines. Most of us don't see ourselves as Nigerians anymore.

We all side with ethnic, religious and sectional affiliates than bond as fellow Nigerians. We all interact as a bunch of people forced to live together and have derogatory tags and slurs for each other.

This is why regionalism is vital and should not be put off for longer. Giving Nigerians the freedom to build from their regional bases will bring geographical pride, patriotism, a sense of identity and belonging plus commitment back into the hearts all Nigerians.

It will make everyone re-dedicate efforts towards making their region great whereas that passion to make Nigeria great died in most Nigerians a long time ago.

Every Nigerian now looks at Nigeria as a defenseless orphan they must exploit rather than assist. Transformative leadership positions , under such an arrangement, will always be commandeered for "na our turn" agenda.

This is Why Buhari quickly moved in Daura, Abba Kyari and others into his inner circle as decision-makers for all of Nigerians to then ostracize non-Fulanis who had worked for his Victory who should have had a say in a sincere government of unity and balance.

Because of the very same system, Buhari can do as he pleases without Nigerians been able to unite and fight him to deliver what is right by all.

His fellow Northerners would claim victimization of their 'son' while Igbos will remain playing spiteful blame game of "na Yoruba install am so na Yoruba headache. Yorubas will lampoon Igbos as frustrated because" dem no sabi politics". In the middle of those fights, misrule and misery continues for Nigerians. The whole thing is a mess.

Why not go back to regional governance where a Yoruba premier must answer first to his people and region with nowhere to hide and no others to hide behind? Ditto for all other regions.

We are only postponing the evil days enduring with Nigeria as currently constituted.

As a simple example, would many of us not consider joining the police force if totally independent State or regional policing was in place?

I would certainly consider it out of genuine patriotism I have for my State and region.

Yet how many would join the Nigerian police force controlled by the Federal Government? "I dey mad?" would be the response of most Nigerians.

Nigerians cannot be united productively under a unitary system anymore. It has never worked and never will whereas regionalism worked. It is not Rocket Science.

Dsalvo:


Almost anything can be achieved with uniformity of purpose, selfless patriotism and sincerity.

Things you're unlikely to get from a nation of over 250 ethnic groups very divided along ethnic, religious and sectional lines. Most of us don't see ourselves as Nigerians anymore.

We all side with ethnic, religious and sectional affiliates than bond as fellow Nigerians. We all interact as a bunch of people forced to live together and have derogatory tags and slurs for each other.

This is why regionalism is vital and should not be put off for longer. Giving Nigerians the freedom to build from their regional bases will bring geographical pride, patriotism, a sense of identity and belonging plus commitment back into the hearts all Nigerians.

It will make everyone re-dedicate efforts towards making their region great whereas that passion to make Nigeria great died in most Nigerians a long time ago.

Every Nigerian now looks at Nigeria as a defenseless orphan they must exploit rather than assist. Transformative leadership positions , under such an arrangement, will always be commandeered for "na our turn" agenda.

This is Why Buhari quickly moved in Daura, Abba Kyari and others into his inner circle as decision-makers for all of Nigerians to then ostracize non-Fulanis who had worked for his Victory who should have had a say in a sincere government of unity and balance.

Because of the very same system, Buhari can do as he pleases without Nigerians been able to unite and fight him to deliver what is right by all.

His fellow Northerners would claim victimization of their 'son' while Igbos will remain playing spiteful blame game of "na Yoruba install am so na Yoruba headache. Yorubas will lampoon Igbos as frustrated because" dem no sabi politics". In the middle of those fights, misrule and misery continues for Nigerians. The whole thing is a mess.

Why not go back to regional governance where a Yoruba premier must answer first to his people and region with nowhere to hide and no others to hide behind? Ditto for all other regions.

We are only postponing the evil days enduring with Nigeria as currently constituted.

As a simple example, would many of us not consider joining the police force if totally independent State or regional policing was in place?

I would certainly consider it out of genuine patriotism I have for my State and region.

Yet how many would join the Nigerian police force controlled by the Federal Government? "I dey mad?" would be the response of most Nigerians.

Nigerians cannot be united productively under a unitary system anymore. It has never worked and never will whereas regionalism worked. It is not Rocket Science.

Bro, the money involved no be beans

Dsalvo:


Almost anything can be achieved with uniformity of purpose, selfless patriotism and sincerity.

Things you're unlikely to get from a nation of over 250 ethnic groups very divided along ethnic, religious and sectional lines. Most of us don't see ourselves as Nigerians anymore.

We all side with ethnic, religious and sectional affiliates than bond as fellow Nigerians. We all interact as a bunch of people forced to live together and have derogatory tags and slurs for each other.

This is why regionalism is vital and should not be put off for longer. Giving Nigerians the freedom to build from their regional bases will bring geographical pride, patriotism, a sense of identity and belonging plus commitment back into the hearts all Nigerians.

It will make everyone re-dedicate efforts towards making their region great whereas that passion to make Nigeria great died in most Nigerians a long time ago.

Every Nigerian now looks at Nigeria as a defenseless orphan they must exploit rather than assist. Transformative leadership positions , under such an arrangement, will always be commandeered for "na our turn" agenda.

This is Why Buhari quickly moved in Daura, Abba Kyari and others into his inner circle as decision-makers for all of Nigerians to then ostracize non-Fulanis who had worked for his Victory who should have had a say in a sincere government of unity and balance.

Because of the very same system, Buhari can do as he pleases without Nigerians been able to unite and fight him to deliver what is right by all.

His fellow Northerners would claim victimization of their 'son' while Igbos will remain playing spiteful blame game of "na Yoruba install am so na Yoruba headache. Yorubas will lampoon Igbos as frustrated because" dem no sabi politics". In the middle of those fights, misrule and misery continues for Nigerians. The whole thing is a mess.

Why not go back to regional governance where a Yoruba premier must answer first to his people and region with nowhere to hide and no others to hide behind? Ditto for all other regions.

We are only postponing the evil days enduring with Nigeria as currently constituted.

As a simple example, would many of us not consider joining the police force if totally independent State or regional policing was in place?

I would certainly consider it out of genuine patriotism I have for my State and region.

Yet how many would join the Nigerian police force controlled by the Federal Government? "I dey mad?" would be the response of most Nigerians.

Nigerians cannot be united productively under a unitary system anymore. It has never worked and never will whereas regionalism worked. It is not Rocket Science.

You summarize Everything.

tctrills:


You are the impolite boy but let me answer you this one. China did not lift millions out of poverty by building new cities and moving the poor into them. China lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty through private investments creating millions of jobs in the cities. In case you don't know, the thousands of skyscrapers you see in China are privately owned. The government does not create wealth. China did not go into foreign debt to Build infrastructure. Every single country that has gone into massive debt to build infrastructure ended up in a bad place. Learn about the IMF loans of the 80s. Even with the recent Chinese loan that most nations are taking, By next year, Nigeria would find it unsustainable to pay her debt and manage its economy.
Egypt you point is entering into one of the worst food crises ever. They would need the world bank and richer nations to survive. Their economy was not prepared for the Ukraine war.
The secret to economic growth is not big government projects but allowing the private sector to take off. Ask Korea and Japan. Ask the USA. Just so you know, the first railway in the US was built by a private company. In fact, most of the rail in the US was built by private entities.
China was as poor as Nigeria until it handed over its economy to private hands. Dubai did the same, and Singapore did the same.
Rusia a country with vast minerals, Agricultural land, and tech remains one of the poorest in Europe because its government does not give businesses a free hand. While Estonia a little unknown nation has 10x its economy in the last 20 years not by building projects but by creating a more liberal economy where the government does less.
Finally, learn to disagree with other schools of thought without getting angry. As a man, the ability to control your temper, tame your response, and school your feelings makes you strong.

Kudos! You understand economy and development.

BluntTheApostle:


If we elect a credible leader, the system will frustrate him.

So, the system is the problem.

Let us suppose Obi is a truly credible leader. He wants to cut cost of governance. How will he do it? The system runs a bicameral legislature. If Obi reduces cost of governance for the presidency, the system does not give him the power to review the bogus allowances that each lawmaker takes home every month.

Bicameralism also slows down decision making. That is why a military dictator has a better chance of doing better than a civilian president in Nigeria.

Supposing Obi wants to make a law that makes the police less corrupt and more efficient, he needs funds but he first has to write to the NASS. The NASS can use 8 years on the bill, and it would not get any headways. The anti-graft bill Buhari sent to NASS is still there after 7 years.

In China, for example, or even Rwanda, if Kigali wants something, he gets it, and quick too. If Buhari wants something, he has to send it to the NASS, and even lobby them to get it passed quickly.

Corruption is too simplistic an excuse.

There is terrible corruption going on in Rwanda, but the country still manages to make headsway.

We need to change the 1999 constitution. Every Nigeria problem ties with the 1999 constitution. The problem is the structure as you said and the structure is 1999 constitution.

1999 constitution is anti development. It the main reason we have poverty, killing, agitation etc

kingthreat:


What the hell are you saying? Are you trying to redefine geography or what?

A people is not defined by geography but by way of life!
Take all Nigerian citizens to America and all American citizens to Nigeria and in 20 years Nigeria will be America and America will be Nigeria

Obidient4life2:


A people is not defined by geography but by way of life!
Take all Nigerian citizens to America and all American citizens to Nigeria and in 20 years Nigeria will be America and America will be Nigeria

Geography is about land mass and location. Find another word to express your view.

CSTRR:
Most of this things happened in 7yrs under the mosi govt.

That man came in at the same time with Buhari.

Nah,

I think you mistook Abdel fattah el-Sisi for Mohamed morsi, morsi died in 2019,and was ousted in a coup by fattah since 2013 for alleged links with Muslim brotherhood.

Mensamusa:


Nah,

I think you mistook Abdel fattah el-Sisi for Mohamed morsi, morsi died in 2019,and was ousted in a coup by fattah since 2013 for alleged links with Muslim brotherhood.

Yes I meant sisi, not mosi.