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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by neonly: 10:59am On Sep 18, 2022
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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by SeriouslySense(m): 11:00am On Sep 18, 2022
very true, its knowing and deliberately rejecting what is true, due to selfishness.

waldigit:
That pronouncement was made on Pharisees because they tried to deny Jesus ministry was from Holy Spirit in order to discourage people from believing. If we apply the age long principle of God: To whom much is given, to whom much is expected" to this scenario, we can see that Pharisees were special sect in Israel those days who are supposed to know more than ordinary Judaist of those days, you can probably liken them to our today's GOs. They are privy to prophets books of prophecies, revelation and understanding. They knew very well Jesus was from God, but because of ego, envy and greed, always jumped at opportunity to malign His reputation. On that very occasion, they alleged he was casting out demons by Balsebub, Prince of demons. This is to show us they have deep understanding of spiritual order and modus operandi. Yet they denied it delebrately obstructing Holy Spirit. Such sins and blasphemy usually attracts instant judgement or death.
It's like a man in the level God's general like Moses trying to fight God. This is the very sin committed by the Devil himself.
Summary.
1.Sin and blasphemy against Holy Spirit depends on your revelational knowledge of God.
2. What constitute sin against the Holy Spirit to one may not apply to another based on their relationship with God

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by ibechris(m): 11:00am On Sep 18, 2022
PrinxArthur1:
Please what are the unforgivable sins ?


Attributing the work of God to Satan.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Image123(m): 11:10am On Sep 18, 2022
naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.


Bible scholars please throw more light to this

Two things.
One, you've got to be touching on the worst of the worst to have offended the Holy Spirit. It's like getting to the core, inside inside like we say. Like we humans, something can hurt us on different levels. If you're hurt to the core or spirit, it's a very deep hurt. Same idea in sinning against the Holy Ghost, that's the most sensitive part of the Godhead as it were.

Two, it is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin. Without the Holy Spirit, you can't "easily" accept your wrong. If you see a place a heart moved by the Holy Spirit, it's real conviction. You might have heard better preaching and arguments than then, but you repent and may even cry at the point. So imagine offending the person that will convince you to repent, lol. Your own is literally finished be that. You can't find conviction,not to mention repentance or forgiveness.

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by kingyakos: 11:12am On Sep 18, 2022
There's nothing like eternal sin
There's nothing eternal except God
God alone is eternal.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by blueAgent(m): 11:18am On Sep 18, 2022
It means one hardening his heart and will against the calling and pleading of the Holy spirit unto repentance.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by tctrills: 11:30am On Sep 18, 2022
naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.


Bible scholars please throw more light to this
Please define what it means to blasphem against the Holy Ghost
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Jossymekoos10: 11:30am On Sep 18, 2022
naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.

Good day brother /sister
Many people have been deceived into committing the sin against the Holy spirit.
The truth is that God's grace and mercy is available for us in times of sin. But the aim is to forgive us and help us to stop sinning.
But some people have abused this grace, claiming that Jesus has paid for all the sins one would ever commit. Hence they deliberately continue to sin, they enjoy living in sin while having adequate knowledge of the grace of God. They deliberately twist that knowledge Therefore they are nailing christ again to the cross.
That is sin against the Holy Spirit
How can you forgive someone that enjoys offending you knowing fully well that he's offending you and unwilling to change


Bible scholars please throw more light to this
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by tctrills: 11:30am On Sep 18, 2022
blueAgent:
It means one hardening his heart and will against the calling and pleading of the Holy spirit unto repentance.

If that is what it means then almost everyone is guilty of it at one time or the other.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by blueAgent(m): 11:35am On Sep 18, 2022
tctrills:

If that is what it means then almost everyone is guilty of it at one time or the other.
Yeah, somehow.

But the one of sin against the Holy spirit is when we harden our hearts and deliberately go contrary to the warnings and truth given by God to us through the Holyspirit.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by crafteck(m): 11:39am On Sep 18, 2022
Lies and lies... Who is the actual judge of sins
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:39am On Sep 18, 2022
PrinxArthur1:
Please what are the unforgivable sins ?

Holy means Pure, Spirit could also mean force actuating something.

So Holy Spirit could be defined as the Spirit that's producing the purest, finest or brightest result in the midst of imperfect mankind.

How can anyone sin against God's Holy Spirit?

Of course we can't see God but we can see the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit as produced in the gathering of imperfect humans, therefore any objection raised against such fine result is like a direct attack on God whose spirit is moving imperfect humans to produce the purest, finest and brightest result!

Today there are countless sects claiming schools of thought globally: Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, Judaists, Muslims, Traditionalists, Christendom and many more. Members of all these groups come to social media to promote their ideas as brighter than others. But the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob foretold that during the last days He will dispense His Holy Spirit (Active Force) on faithful but imperfect humans {Zechariah 4:6} and people will start going to meet their neighbours to discuss with one another over God's personal name and His qualities {Malachi 3:16} during the time when things are getting tough making people desperately targeting opportunities of money making God's Holy Spirit will compel many to offer themselves willingly and selflessly {Psalms 110:3} and the result of this is that they will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers using the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of and information materials, erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and stop enrolling for military services! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This will happen when all the sects claiming schools of thought failed to help their members embrace PEACE but killing their neighbours due to politics, racism and military services! Revelations 6:3-4

So God's Holy Spirit will continue to produce it's fruit {Matthew 7:16-18} in the gathering of the Holy Ones (brightest group) which are: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

Though apostle Paul warned fellow believers saying "against such group producing this results there is no law" Galatians 5:23

Yet many (including those claiming believers) will deliberately kill their God's given conscience calling the group producing this result "Satanists" or "Cultists" {Matthew 10:25} well the fact remains that people coming together to produce this FRUIT aren't angels but imperfect humans like everyone else so any tongue speaking against such fine WORKS (FRUIT) is sinning against God's Holy Spirit that's working out such BENEFITS so they will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by okpaheisom(m): 11:42am On Sep 18, 2022
I believe according to the bible the blood of Jesus is able to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1 Vs 9. You may now ask what is the unpardonable sin, which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
First what is the work of the Holy Spirit? To convict sinner which is one of his ministry to unbelievers. Jesus said the Holy Spirit will not speak of Himself because he came to reveal Christ. So when a sinner rejectes the inner workings of the Spirit's conviction and appropriate it to something else without repentance that sinner can never be save, not in this world or world to come John 3 Vs 5.
So that fellow can never be pardon because there was never a time he/ she accepted Christ Jesus.
I have written in few words but I hope it will help �
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by samwheel(m): 11:44am On Sep 18, 2022
Franzinni:
Religion is a bunch of fairy tales ... Wake up ..imagine you die and missing out on life because you were preparing yourself for the mansions in the sky.

Nah this life we know. Live now.... On your own terms. Disconnect yourself from the collective mind.

You are just acting out your programming thinking you are an individual and a person as the society you were born dictates..

I always love to ask religious people this.... If you were not introduced to your religion from the womb, would you be of the religion you hold so close?.

Yes that was a good rant ! I quiet enjoyed it. Till next time folks.


Like they say, better u believe and at d end of your life, find out it was a lie, than not believe and at the end find out everything you've heard was true, e no go funny.

Not play with things of spirits, they are more real than we living in time.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by tctrills: 11:50am On Sep 18, 2022
blueAgent:

Yeah, somehow.

But the one of sin against the Holy spirit is when we harden our hearts and deliberately go contrary to the warnings and truth given by God to us through the Holyspirit.
Every Christian at one point in time has disobeyed the warnings of God.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by blueAgent(m): 11:51am On Sep 18, 2022
tctrills:

Every Christian at one point in time has disobeyed the warnings of God.

You Don't understand,

Not just disobident but the rebellious arrogant form of disobident to God's word and calling.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by miraclea: 12:08pm On Sep 18, 2022
The sin of blasphemy (unforgivable sin) takes its origin from doubt casting doubt on God's originality plans and purpose that was the sin the devil comited against God, Adam and Eve did same , casting doubt or conceiving and acting against God's originality is sacrilegious and may not be forgiven
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by bagad: 12:10pm On Sep 18, 2022
Una deliberately, voluntarily carry una self put for inside wahala.
So Jesus, holy spirit and God no be one again.
Smile....
Ah no know say if u sin against God or Jesus, you will be forgiven but holy spirit own no forgiveness.

Where una dey see dis una soap self.

Like say una know God mind.

Everybody sha dey find way to oppress, supress and enslave fellow humans, all for money and power over una fellow man.

Na wa for who no get control over him own self or reasoning o.

If u ask Dem or their so called pastor some questions now wey Dem no fit or no wan answer.

Dem go say devil dey use u just to escape the question

Na so some women never cook for their husband or clean their houses in the morning but go go give daddy in the lord food very early and also clean churh and all the premises. And knack pastor doggy style join and cowboy style.
After daddy go don commandeer full control and order these women to give their husband bad attitude

So sad, but anyway nobody push anybody, when e no be say Dem dey wheelchairs.
Na these women dey push demselves

Thank God say God no be man.

Some people for make fellow human dey chop sand.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by seunmsg(m): 12:10pm On Sep 18, 2022
What the fvck is even the Holy Spirit? What’s their usefulness to humanity?

If Holy Spirit actually exist, it must be one very weak, ineffective, carefree, confused, irresponsible or powerless spirit that should simply be ignored.

The so called Holy Spirit is the author of confusion among Christians. All the different denominations with different doctrines are attributed to the direction of Holy Spirit. Men of god with their different titles go about using using the Holy Spirit to scam gullible members of their hard earned money.

Some few years ago, we all saw how over 300 people who went to worship this same Holy Spirit in Akwa Ibom (Reigners Bible Church) lost their lives in a very cruel manner when the church building collapsed. Daddy/Mummy Holy Spirit looked away that day and allowed the devil to kill God’s children in such a manner. Some months ago, we all saw how gunmen attacker worshipers in a church in Owoh, Ondo state and got away with it. What has the Holy Spirit done about it?

Las las, Holy Spirit Na scam.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by tctrills: 12:18pm On Sep 18, 2022
blueAgent:


You Don't understand,

Not just disobident but the rebellious arrogant form of disobident to God's word and calling.
As a Christian every disobedience is rebellion against God. You know God's words but you choose to go against it. Is there a better definition of rebellion?
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Broveens42(m): 12:21pm On Sep 18, 2022
naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.


Bible scholars please throw more light to this


Lol. Religion is very interesting when you study the intent of the writer. It is just a clash of principles.. I'll prove it

Look at mathew 12 :31 for example..
You could go back to the stories that led to vs 31 @ therefore, who ever sins....

1.Now this guys says biblical Jesus casts out demon using demon.... But biblical Jesus says if it is so, then the kingdom of Satan won't stand because they are divided(this is a few of principles that defies logic and makes a nonsense of the notion that biblical devil is the father of deception..ie no truth in him... So if what it takes the devil to cast out devil is what would make him deceive people , why wouldn't he? Will that make his kingdom divided? Lol... now apply this to real life situation.

2. Then biblical Jesus says, he requires the holy spirit to cast devil, so he would bring the kingdom of god(his own principles) to them.... the implication is that the two principles was portrayed as being at war with each other, that's why he used the illustration; "can you invade someones house without trying to tie him up first"...

3. He first used the words... sins against the son of man will be forgiven, BLASPHEMY against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven..
He went on again, He who speaks against the son of man(BLASPHEMY) it will be forgiven, He who speaks against the Holy Spirit it won't be forgiven...

First inference, the writer generally considers sin in that context as BLASPHEMY (speaking against a principle)

So what it implies is that, once someone is against your principle, you can't forget easily but you can forgive..

Real life situation... If I did had sex with your partner, you could forgive me by not RETALIATING but you can never forget that incident whenever you see me.

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by blueAgent(m): 12:22pm On Sep 18, 2022
tctrills:

As a Christian every disobedience is rebellion against God. You know God's words but you choose to go against it. Is there a better definition of rebellion?

There is a difference in unwillingly full disobidence and willinglyful disobidenece.

Do you know the meaning of iniquity?
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by tctrills: 12:26pm On Sep 18, 2022
blueAgent:


There is a difference in unwillingly full disobidence and willinglyful disobidenece.

Do you know the meaning of iniquity?

To unwillingly disobey means you do not know the word of God. Like an unbeliever. But how can you claim your disobedience is unwillingly when you understand the word of God. So if a Christian lies, is that unwillingly disobedience?

As for 5he definition of iniquity; immoral or grossly unfair behaviour.
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by xeju: 12:28pm On Sep 18, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
shocked

Some pastors and men of God are guilty of this! They speak and defraud unsuspecting members of the public their hard earned money using holy spirit, saying that the holy spirit said when he didn't.

When you sin against God, his son( Jesus Christ) would beg on our behalf thereby making the sin against God to be forgiveable.

When you sin against Jesus Christ, his blood would beg on our behalf thereby making the sin against Jesus Christ forgiveable.

When you sin against Man, and you pray to God or Jesus Christ for forgiveness, they'll forgive you thereby making the sin against Man forgiveable.

But when you sin against the Holy Spirit, no one would speak on our behalf before the Holy Spirit thereby making the sin against the Holy Spirit unforgivable.

Like someone said earlier and I quote
The holy spirit is so big that God and Jesus can't speak on the offender behalf���. Christianity and its unreasonable excuses
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by kkonyeji(m): 12:35pm On Sep 18, 2022
ugochukwufrenzy:
may God have mercy and forgive all our shortcomings through Jesus Christ our Lord.amen

Amen
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Jomonix: 12:38pm On Sep 18, 2022
Nn
Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Wuppdex: 12:39pm On Sep 18, 2022
Don't mind the lot, if they could only invest so much time and trust in proven science and tech, instead of wasting away on an imaginary afterlife.
Oyinbo and Arab wey dash you religion sef dey enjoy the present and they don't turn the other cheek, abegi my people believe small and enjoy small.


Franzinni:
Religion is a bunch of fairy tales ... Wake up ..imagine you die and missing out on life because you were preparing yourself for the mansions in the sky.

Nah this life we know. Live now.... On your own terms. Disconnect yourself from the collective mind.

You are just acting out your programming thinking you are an individual and a person as the society you were born dictates..

I always love to ask religious people this.... If you were not introduced to your religion from the womb, would you be of the religion you hold so close?.

Yes that was a good rant ! I quiet enjoyed it. Till next time folks.

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Andytyx(m): 12:44pm On Sep 18, 2022
DamnnNiggarr:
shocked

Some pastors and men of God are guilty of this! They speak and defraud unsuspecting members of the public their hard earned money using holy spirit, saying that the holy spirit said when he didn't.

When you sin against God, his son( Jesus Christ) would beg on our behalf thereby making the sin against God to be forgiveable.

When you sin against Jesus Christ, his blood would beg on our behalf thereby making the sin against Jesus Christ forgiveable.

When you sin against Man, and you pray to God or Jesus Christ for forgiveness, they'll forgive you thereby making the sin against Man forgiveable.

But when you sin against the Holy Spirit, no one would speak on our behalf before the Holy Spirit thereby making the sin against the Holy Spirit unforgivable.

Like someone said earlier and I quote
Nigarr don dey pass us back to back word of God.
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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Wuppdex: 12:46pm On Sep 18, 2022
It's called conscience and nonetheless it's a feeling of guilt attached to every intelligent mammals, even a well trained dog can feel guilt.

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Two things.
One, you've got to be touching on the worst of the worst to have offended the Holy Spirit. It's like getting to the core, inside inside like we say. Like we humans, something can hurt us on different levels. If you're hurt to the core or spirit, it's a very deep hurt. Same idea in sinning against the Holy Ghost, that's the most sensitive part of the Godhead as it were.

Two, it is the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin. Without the Holy Spirit, you can't "easily" accept your wrong. If you see a place a heart moved by the Holy Spirit, it's real conviction. You might have heard better preaching and arguments than then, but you repent and may even cry at the point. So imagine offending the person that will convince you to repent, lol. Your own is literally finished be that. You can't find conviction,not to mention repentance or forgiveness. [/quote]

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Re: Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit by Hesty999: 12:47pm On Sep 18, 2022
naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.


Bible scholars please throw more light to this

Blasphemy against the holy spirit is intentionally hardening your heart against tbe convictions of the spirit and attributing his works to the devil.

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