tctrills:

Can you imagine, you depend on Wikipedia and not your bible. Oga this is funny. Wikipedia is now above the bible. Wiki now defines your religion.

tctrills:

I asked you to show just one verse that says so. Obviously you are one of those Christians who just repeat what your pastor days without reading your bible.

Janosky:

Hebrew lexicon 1121 sons/children @Job2:1 & elsewhere in your Bible ,go and learn.
Avoid dispute with your Bible.

Janosky:

Sons of God are children of God.
Sons (plural) are children (plural).
Oga, receive sense.

Steep:

Jesus is both equal to God .
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Steep:

and (Jesus) less than God.
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Steep:


How? In his divinity Jesus is equal with God the father in every aspect but in his humanity he is less than God since he is a man.
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tctrills:
Please refer to your bible. I cant lie, I don't understand what you posted please explain

Janosky:

Is Hebrew lexicon 1121 @ Job2:1?
Go and confirm.
Oga, your Bible is against your folly.

Steep:

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Jesus is the Almighty. Revelation 1 vv8
He is the Almighty God that took the human nature.

tctrills:

I just confirmed Job 2.1. In Hebrew, Son does not mean angel. What is your point? Since you are the Hebrew expert, tell us, what is the Hebrew word for Son and the Hebrew word for angel. Do they mean the same thing?
Here is the Hebrew word for son בֵּן
Here is the Hebrew word for angel מַלְאָךְ‎ mal'āḵ
You see you are wrong Mr. Hebrew lexicon

What is the meaning of the Hebrew lexicon of Malak?
Oga, go and learn. Many scriptures address your faulty logic.

"Anyone can be a Malak".
Source: Hebrew word lessons.com.
Oga, your faulty logic is equivalent to claiming that Adam is not son of God because he is human.

Janosky:

What is the meaning of the Hebrew lexicon of Malak?
Oga, go and learn. Many scriptures address your faulty logic.

Oga, your faulty logic is equivalent to claiming that Adam is not son of God because he is human.

tctrills:

You are not making any point. What is your position? Are you saying that Angel means son in the Hebrew language? Because if that is your point we should research right now because you are completely wrong. In fact, the Hebrew translation of Angel means messenger.

Now to your question:

What is the meaning of the Hebrew lexicon of Malak?

Answer- מֲלְאָךְ mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest

Janosky:

The Hebrew language Bible says @ Job2:1 & job1:6, "sons of God" are Angels.
Angels are children of God.
I don't dispute the holy scriptures.

Steep:


Jesus is called the second Adam he is the source of the new humanity since the old one had being corrupted by sin.

Steep:

He is the first man in the new creation but however he is God.

Steep:


Jesus embodies two nature, the divine and the human nature, hence he is forever the God-man, he is like a bridge, a meeting point between the divine(uncreated) and man(created).

Steep:

He will never stop being God as well as he will never stop being man.

Steep:


In Jesus christ the plan of the father to have a perfect world without sin is fulfilled, hence in him the father is well pleased.

Steep:


Very soon this old creation will pass away Althose who are not in christ are part of the old creation and the new one will come, this new one is eternal.

tctrills:


I am sure you are not quoting the bible. here is what the bible says
Job2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

job1:6 Thus did Job continually. [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. [7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Steep:

Having done som research in the bible
I don't think the Sons of God are actually angels.

I will create a new post for it.

Janosky:

Bene ha Elohim & Malak reference the same creatures of God.

tctrills:

Now you seem confused. In which verse do Bene ha Elohim and Malak reference the same creature?
Bene ha Elohim refers to son of God in Genesis 6:2,4
Malak means messenger of God. Very different.
My brother, just try and be reading your bible. This Hebrew thing is not working for you.

tctrills:


I am sure you are not quoting the bible. here is what the bible says
Job2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

job1:6 Thus did Job continually. [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. [7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

tctrills:

Now you seem confused. In which verse do Bene ha Elohim and Malak reference the same creature?
Bene ha Elohim refers to son of God in Genesis 6:2,4
Malak means messenger of God. Very different.
My brother, just try and be reading your bible. This Hebrew thing is not working for you.

Janosky:

Oga,stop your folly and Mumu arguments.
Bene ha Elohim are Angels.
Malak are Angels.
They are Creatures of God.

elated177:



They are the same.

tctrills:
I believe in the bible, not in your words. Just because you say they are the same does not make it so.

elated177:


I, Elated177, as a non-christian, believe in the Scriptures of YAHVEH Almighty, my Father in heaven, my Daddy in the Sky.

Far be it from me to advise anyone to believe my own words instead of the Word of YHVH Almighty. As his saint, servant, follower and messenger, I can only teach what his Spirits instructs me as expressly written in his Scriptures.

What about you? Should I accept that they are not the same simply because you said, even when the Scripture doesn't say so?

Let me ask you, tctrills, is it possible for me, elated177, to be a saint, a servant, a follower and a messenger of Yahushua the Messiah?

tctrills:
So far, you have not been able to show a single verse where angels were called children of God. What you did was show different translations in some it said sons of God and in 1 it said angels.

Then I love the fact that you asked who are the sons of God? One thing we learn as Christians is not to assume. We only testify on the revealed word.
Now in the revealed world who are the children or the sons of God. Every time the bible speaks of the sons of God, it was referring to men not angels.

Do you remember the Lord's prayer? Our Father who art in heaven. The bible teaches that men are the sons of God not angels

tctrills:

As Christians we don't just say anything because our pastor said so, we use the bible. Bene ha Elohim are not angels, they are the sons of God. The bible called Solomon a son of God. In the Lord's prayer, we acknowledge we are his sons. You need to begin to take your bible seriously

MaxInDHouse:

All the versions translated the verse to the best of their knowledge and NIV did the same by making it clear that the sons of God referred to in that Bible book are angels.
Do you know that the same Moses who wrote the book of Genesis wrote Job?

That aside, who are the sons of God supposed to marry @ Genesis 6:1-2 since they married the "daughters of men"?

Janosky:

Oga, where did the events of Job 2:1 & Job 1:6 happen?

Let's confirm something.

tctrills:

Oh because of the "daughters of men" you got confused. I see.
In the bible, who does God call his Son? Basically, they are faithful men of God or those whom he has a convent with like the nation of Israel. So someone whom God has a convent with marries the daughter of an unbeliever that statement would be in place.

1Kings 11.1 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites:

2 Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

Was Solomon a son of God? Yes
Did he marry the daughters of God or the Daughters of men? You know the answer.

Janosky:


"Is" not in John 1:1. Don't ADD to holy scriptures.

1 Corinthians 8:6
"There is ONLY ONE GOD, The Father".
The ONLY ONE GOD in Greek John1:1 is the God (ho Theos) the Father.
Whether in heaven or earth, every other being is a god. This is holy scriptures.
1 Corinthians 8:6 corroborates John 1:1 & Psalm 82:6.
The word was a god @John1:1, that is always the rendition of John 10:33, Jesus is a god.
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Christendom DUBIOUSLY CHANGED "a god" to capitalise 'God'.

MaxInDHouse:


Before Solomon's time God gave (only the Israelites) a law not to marry from other tribes {Deuteronomy 7:3} so it's clear that Solomon disobeyed God's law. But in the case of these your sons of God and daughters of men do you have a verse in God's word where you can point to that God has a special race before the time He began calling Himself the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? Exodus 3:6

I'm asking this because it was after the release of Israelites from Egypt that they became His special people {Exodus 19:5} so do you have any scriptural backings for this your so called sons of God and their race so that we can be sure that they're not supposed to marry from among other tribes?

tctrills:

Then quote the word of God and don't be telling me what you think or feel.

elated177:



Where can one find what you said in the Scriptures?