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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by Wilgrea7(m): 5:43pm On Nov 17, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Since your mind is already made up, why should we confuse you with facts? You believe 2 + 2 can be anything else but 4. Ignorance is bliss. cheesy

You've offered no rebuttal. No counterargument. Nothing.

All you've done is to make a baseless assumption about something completely unrelated to the discussion.

Despite me addressing your “chance" and "accident" analogies, you still go on to parrot them throughout the rest of the thread. And you accuse me of being ignorant?

In addition to that, you continue to attack a position not even being held by evolutionists. That's strawman at its finest.

But all that aside, I want to address the issue of the snail shell. I actually looked it up.. and if you did too, you would've probably seen where you went wrong.

Here's some useful piece of information that clearly shows the reasons for the discrepancy

https://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD011_3.html

You're welcome

P.S... Lordreed already showed you this, but you went on to accuse him of selective reading, meanwhile, you're the one who seems to be selectively picking what to accept.

You're doing the very thing you accuse us of.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:23am On Nov 18, 2022
LordReed:


LoLz! Ask a mathematician or physicist to calculate it for you.

Let the late Sir Fred Hoyle answer you. cool

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:58am On Nov 18, 2022
Wilgrea7:


You've offered no rebuttal. No counterargument. Nothing.

All you've done is to make a baseless assumption about something completely unrelated to the discussion.

Despite me addressing your “chance" and "accident" analogies, you still go on to parrot them throughout the rest of the thread. And you accuse me of being ignorant?

In addition to that, you continue to attack a position not even being held by evolutionists. That's strawman at its finest.

But all that aside, I want to address the issue of the snail shell. I actually looked it up.. and if you did too, you would've probably seen where you went wrong.

Here's some useful piece of information that clearly shows the reasons for the discrepancy

https://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD011_3.html

You're welcome

P.S... Lordreed already showed you this, but you went on to accuse him of selective reading, meanwhile, you're the one who seems to be selectively picking what to accept.

You're doing the very thing you accuse us of.

Read all about it here, especially the first 3 pages and thank my later. wink

https://assets.answersingenesis.org/doc/articles/am/v7/n4/ECP-p855-864-Radiocarbon-Dating.pdf

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:42am On Nov 18, 2022
Charles Hard Townes. cool

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 5:44am On Nov 18, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Let the late Sir Fred Hoyle answer you. cool

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LMAO! Fred Hoyle didn't believe it was your god that did anything, he thought it was aliens so stop using him as a prop.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:00pm On Nov 18, 2022
THE B2 BOMBER WAS MODELED AFTER THE PEREGRINE FALCON...

A genius DESIGNER will always inspire copycats. wink

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Let no atheist evolutionist come here to tell us that it evolved!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by Maynman: 6:25pm On Nov 18, 2022
Theists hail brahma cheesy

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:12pm On Nov 19, 2022
DINOSAUR SOFT TISSUE. A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR EVOLUTION...

In 2005, Professor Mary Schweitzer of NC State University reported finding soft tissue, including blood vessels and cells, in a T-Rex bone dug out of sandstone from the fossil-rich, Hell Creek Formation in Montana. The vessels even appeared to be lined with specialized endothelial cells found in all blood vessels.

IF DINOSAURS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ALIVE "65 MILLION YEARS AGO", HOW CAN THIS BE EXPLAINED?

The alternative explanation is that dinosaurs did NOT live that long ago, and were a product of creation. You take away the millions of years from the fairy tale called evolution, and you have no evolution! Keep in mind there have been many discoveries like this. This is just the most well known example. We will share others in the coming weeks. wink

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Evolution is a Lie!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by Maynman: 7:20pm On Nov 19, 2022
not all atheists “believe” in evolution. Most of us don’t really care about evolution, and certainly not in the way a creationist believe in creation.
Millions of theists believe in evolution. Most of the scientists working on evolution theories are Theists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_of_evolution_by_religious_groups

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:58pm On Nov 19, 2022
Where evolutionists see "common ancestor," we see Common Designer!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:18pm On Nov 19, 2022
THE SIKORSKY HELICOPTER WAS MODELLED AFTER THE DRAGONFLY..

The wings of the dragonfly cannot be folded back on its body. In addition, the way in which the muscles for flight are used in the motion of the wings differs from the rest of insects. Because of these properties, evolutionists claim that dragonflies are "primitive insects."

Sikorsky helicopters were designed in imitation of the flawless design and maneuver ability of a dragonfly.

In contrast, the flight system of these so-called "primitive insects" is nothing less than a wonder of design. The world's leading helicopter manufacturer, Sikorsky, finished the design of one of their helicopters by taking the dragonfly as a model.6 IBM, which assisted Sikorsky in this project, started by putting a model of a dragonfly in a computer (IBM 3081). Two thousand special renderings were done on computer in the light of the manoeuvres of the dragonfly in air. Therefore, Sikorsky’s model for transporting personnel and artillery was built upon examples derived from dragonflies.

INTELLIGENCE CREATED THE DRAGONFLY.

ONLY GOD, THE BEST DESIGNER!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:40am On Nov 20, 2022
THE WHOLE WORLD IS COVERED WITH FOSSILS AND REMAINS FROM A WORLD-WIDE FLOOD!

Fossils require water to BECOME fossils. The whole earth has fossils, and some areas are covered so thick with fossils that it was clearly not random floods here and there, but one BIG catastrophic flood.

Look at how many fossilized fish we have, and remains of all different kinds of animals washed together. We see what was remains of violent catastrophic flood.

We have giant fossilized clams UNOPENED on mountain tops. MOUNTAIN TOPS! Those mountains were created during the Earth's upheaval. Also, clams open when they die. They didn't even have a chance to open up! From this, we know those mountains were formed at the time of the flood, NOT gradually over millions of years.

We have polystyrate tree fossils. Those are whole fossilized trees going upwards through sediment rock which evolution scientists will tell you had to be laid down over millions of years. One tree going upward through these layers disproves millions of years. We have these particular fossils all over the globe.

Lastly, we have mammoth mummified remains covering the Siberian permafrost pointing to a quick post-flood death. After the flood, the Earth would have cooled down significantly, and ice and dust storms are theorized to have pushed the mammoths to extinction along with many other animals we find mummified in ice. Mammoths were not snow dwellers as tv shows and movies portray. They ate plants that didn't even grow in a cold climate. They weren't made to live in that environment either. They actually lived in a warm, tropical environment. Clearly, mammoths and other mummified animals found in Siberia were POST-flood, but still wanted to address this to clear up confusion on why they are significant to the flood.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:04pm On Nov 20, 2022
THE AMAZING BOWERBIRDS OF NEW GUINEA...

Named after the bowers (huts) they build to attract mates, this species of bird has an eye for the ladies AND for design. These bowers are constructed of sticks, stood umbrella fashion around a center support pole. They are usually built on green moss right on the ground. Most bowers are around two and one-half feet tall and six feet in diameter. They are so well built by the birds that they are waterproof. One construction is complete, the birds set out to decorate the inside of the home and front yard with anything it can find... Dead bugs, leaves,butterfly wings, and even trash.The same-colored items are always stacked together, and decorations are moved and replaced daily. All in hopes of catching the eye of a mate It reminds us that as our designer, God with His sense of beauty, created us with a sense of what is beautiful and we share this with other parts of creation. Just look at the world around us!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:42am On Nov 21, 2022
Lee Strobel, Former Atheist

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 8:46am On Nov 21, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
Lee Strobel, Former Atheist

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LoLz! Nothing about atheism says you need to believe any of this rubbish. Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 8:49am On Nov 21, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
THE AMAZING BOWERBIRDS OF NEW GUINEA...

Named after the bowers (huts) they build to attract mates, this species of bird has an eye for the ladies AND for design. These bowers are constructed of sticks, stood umbrella fashion around a center support pole. They are usually built on green moss right on the ground. Most bowers are around two and one-half feet tall and six feet in diameter. They are so well built by the birds that they are waterproof. One construction is complete, the birds set out to decorate the inside of the home and front yard with anything it can find... Dead bugs, leaves,butterfly wings, and even trash.The same-colored items are always stacked together, and decorations are moved and replaced daily. All in hopes of catching the eye of a mate It reminds us that as our designer, God with His sense of beauty, created us with a sense of what is beautiful and we share this with other parts of creation. Just look at the world around us!

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Such a wonderful designer!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 8:50am On Nov 21, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
THE WHOLE WORLD IS COVERED WITH FOSSILS AND REMAINS FROM A WORLD-WIDE FLOOD!

Fossils require water to BECOME fossils. The whole earth has fossils, and some areas are covered so thick with fossils that it was clearly not random floods here and there, but one BIG catastrophic flood.

Look at how many fossilized fish we have, and remains of all different kinds of animals washed together. We see what was remains of violent catastrophic flood.

We have giant fossilized clams UNOPENED on mountain tops. MOUNTAIN TOPS! Those mountains were created during the Earth's upheaval. Also, clams open when they die. They didn't even have a chance to open up! From this, we know those mountains were formed at the time of the flood, NOT gradually over millions of years.

We have polystyrate tree fossils. Those are whole fossilized trees going upwards through sediment rock which evolution scientists will tell you had to be laid down over millions of years. One tree going upward through these layers disproves millions of years. We have these particular fossils all over the globe.

Lastly, we have mammoth mummified remains covering the Siberian permafrost pointing to a quick post-flood death. After the flood, the Earth would have cooled down significantly, and ice and dust storms are theorized to have pushed the mammoths to extinction along with many other animals we find mummified in ice. Mammoths were not snow dwellers as tv shows and movies portray. They ate plants that didn't even grow in a cold climate. They weren't made to live in that environment either. They actually lived in a warm, tropical environment. Clearly, mammoths and other mummified animals found in Siberia were POST-flood, but still wanted to address this to clear up confusion on why they are significant to the flood.

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And the fossils are not in the same strata nor are they of the same age. Wonderful nonsense. LMAO!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 8:52am On Nov 21, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
THE SIKORSKY HELICOPTER WAS MODELLED AFTER THE DRAGONFLY..

The wings of the dragonfly cannot be folded back on its body. In addition, the way in which the muscles for flight are used in the motion of the wings differs from the rest of insects. Because of these properties, evolutionists claim that dragonflies are "primitive insects."

Sikorsky helicopters were designed in imitation of the flawless design and maneuver ability of a dragonfly.

In contrast, the flight system of these so-called "primitive insects" is nothing less than a wonder of design. The world's leading helicopter manufacturer, Sikorsky, finished the design of one of their helicopters by taking the dragonfly as a model.6 IBM, which assisted Sikorsky in this project, started by putting a model of a dragonfly in a computer (IBM 3081). Two thousand special renderings were done on computer in the light of the manoeuvres of the dragonfly in air. Therefore, Sikorsky’s model for transporting personnel and artillery was built upon examples derived from dragonflies.

INTELLIGENCE CREATED THE DRAGONFLY.

ONLY GOD, THE BEST DESIGNER!

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So flawless they ditched this particular design. LMAO!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 10:31am On Nov 21, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Evolution is a Lie!

LMFAO!

Mary Schweitzer accepts evolution and that the earth is billions of years old.

If you believe 24/7 creation is really the only interpretation possible and ignore tons of evidence that the earth is billions of years old and that life was a simple construct that got way more complex over time, that’s fine—we may be wrong about the science (I don’t think we are, but as a scientist I have to leave that minute possibility open). I think that parents need to tell their kids that there are a lot of REASONS scientists say what they do, and virtually NONE of those reasons are to disprove God’s existence. That doesn’t enter in. I’ve had lots of students come into my office in tears over the years, saying, “I don’t understand…” The thing is, if you go with the scientific evidence and it turns out to be wrong, I don’t think God is going to punish you for that; God made us curious people. I believe we should step back a little bit and consider other views equally—anything less is doing God and your child a disservice.

https://biologos.org/articles/not-so-dry-bones-an-interview-with-mary-schweitzer

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:16pm On Nov 22, 2022
When a creationist highlights the many challenges that various scientific observations pose to the evolutionary paradigm, it is not uncommon for an evolutionist to default to saying, "science will figure it out someday."

But when a creationist says something similar when the shoe is on the other foot, we're accused of using a "God of the gaps" fallacy.

When a creationist model falls out of feasibility, the creation science community goes out of its way to dissuade people from using these now-faulty arguments. Evolutionists are quick to call these out too.

But when an evolutionist claim becomes untenable, the updates often adding more credibility to the creationist cause, they don't say a word about it. Richard Dawkins has yet to admit that his argument for poor eye design has been debunked by the discovery of Muller glial cells and other related facts. It seems they're more than happy to let the general public continue believing these outdated arguments if it serves their agenda.

What do we call this kind of behaviour? A double standard, of course!

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:47pm On Nov 22, 2022
Another Failed Evolutionary Prediction

Darwin's handmaidens tell us how wonderful evolution is, that explains so much, and that it has predictive power. Meadow muffins! Creationists have many accurate predictions (a few are seen in the link), evolutionists constantly fail because they are trying to suppress the truth about the Creator.

In this case, it's relatively small and involves tinkering with fruit fly DNA, but it's yet another failed prediction. Yippie ky yay, misotheists!

(Bonus: when you go to that site, do a search for "failed evolutionary prediction" for more.)

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:27pm On Nov 22, 2022
Errand Boy

Many of us who have biblical creation science ministries like to go above and beyond the usual to help people with questions. But we aren't experts in all fields. Nor are we on-call errand boys for people who do not want to do some of the work themselves. Many of the "questions" they ask are actually just attempt to put us on the defensive and play "gotcha!" The answers are indeed out there, but most misotheists are obviously insincere about wanting to know.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 10:02am On Nov 23, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
Errand Boy

Many of us who have biblical creation science ministries like to go above and beyond the usual to help people with questions. But we aren't experts in all fields. Nor are we on-call errand boys for people who do not want to do some of the work themselves. Many of the "questions" they ask are actually just attempt to put us on the defensive and play "gotcha!" The answers are indeed out there, but most misotheists are obviously insincere about wanting to know.

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Yes let's do some research like pasting Facebook memes. LMAO.
Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:07am On Nov 23, 2022
Science In The Bible

Non-believers love to attack the Bible, and claim it was written by men "goat herders" who were clueless, and attack its validity. What they fail to realize is that God Himself gave the words to these men, and because God gave them the words, what we see is scientific knowledge written in the Bible itself that could only have come from a much more Intelligent Source. The Creator.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by LordReed(m): 10:12am On Nov 23, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
Another Failed Evolutionary Prediction

Darwin's handmaidens tell us how wonderful evolution is, that explains so much, and that it has predictive power. Meadow muffins! Creationists have many accurate predictions (a few are seen in the link), evolutionists constantly fail because they are trying to suppress the truth about the Creator.

In this case, it's relatively small and involves tinkering with fruit fly DNA, but it's yet another failed prediction. Yippie ky yay, misotheists!

(Bonus: when you go to that site, do a search for "failed evolutionary prediction" for more.)

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LoLz! Scientists made an experiment to test a hypothesis about how a biological organism functions and it was falsified. What has it got to do with proving evolution wrong? SMH.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:17am On Nov 23, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
Lee Strobel, Former Atheist

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:40pm On Nov 23, 2022
The god-of-the-gaps argument asserts that it is invalid to introduce God as an explanation for a scientific phenomenon that we cannot currently explain by naturalistic causes. Believers in naturalism take this a step further, and offer the god-of-the-gaps argument against any involvement of God in nature. However, the god-of-the-gaps argument is only good against a particular deistic approach to God and nature, and loses its potency when Scripture and science are pursued together.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by Maynman: 4:55pm On Nov 23, 2022
This is Georges Lemaître, catholic priest, a student of Jesuits. Lemaître also happened to be a top notch physicist, one of the creators of the prevailing “Big Bang” model of physical cosmology.

Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:07am On Nov 24, 2022
Circulatory System

Your circulatory system is truly a wonder of God's creation and a testament to his divine engineering. In order to keep you alive, your heart will beat around 100,000 times a day, pumping about 2,000 gallons of oxygen and nutrient-rich blood throughout your body. Thankfully, all of this occurs without you ever having to think about it!

It's been estimated that humans have around 60,000 miles of blood vessels stretching throughout their bodies! To put this into perspective, the circumference of the earth is approximately 25,000 miles. This means the total length of blood vessels within your own body would stretch around the entire earth nearly two and a half times!! That is an incomprehensible volume of tissue to fit into such a small package. And yet it is arranged with such eloquent precision as to leave plenty of room for the numerous other organs and bones.

Perhaps even more impressive than the sheer quantity of vessels in your body is the highly efficient and organized function of these life-sustaining tubules. The complex network of arteries and veins carry oxygen-rich blood to the body while simultaneously gathering various waste products to be expelled. An intricate system of capillaries helps with the sophisticated exchange of oxygen and waste, keeping our organs healthy and functioning.

Leviticus 17:11 says, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood…" and we can clearly see the provision of God in our life-giving circulatory system. Exhibiting a level of precision and design that could not possibly have arisen through a process of slow and gradual change. This is obviously an irreducibly complex network upon which the entire body is desperately dependent.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:04pm On Nov 24, 2022
C.S. Lewis

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:52pm On Nov 24, 2022
Fossil Spiders

Each time fossil spiders are found, they are 100% spiders, not ambiguous evolutionary ancestors with partial or transitional features.

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Re: Handprint Disproves Evolution by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:20am On Nov 29, 2022
Good Science vs Bad Science

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