Golan007:


Hope you know in UK of today, if you have a headache, unless it is absolutely reported as something that is about to kill you, you won't see a doctor till January.

That's not true. If are ready to wait 8 hours in A/E, u will definitely see a doctor. But don't complain if they send u away with paracetamol, because I don't understand why you want to see a doctor for simple headache.

I commented 1st on that thread.
The same Agbaje who can't pay his staff well. Most of bank IT workers don japa already.

You see Nigeria's no. 1 problem is there is no even distribution of wealth. We are OPEC member but nothing to show for it. Please watch Qatar World cup documentary to see what they call an oil producing country.

It takes a loving and sincere person to lead you to the path of prosperity bro

MufasaLion:


It's really sad when people come online to make it sound like others are not enlightened.

Last week, the CEO of GTCO was discouraging Nigerians from migrating for greener pastures. He claimed to have been working professionally for 35 years. Nigeria of 35 years ago is definitely better than it is now. Did he study here in Nigeria or any of his kids live here?

These elites and rich folks always find a way to paint overseas bad so as for the poor and the masses not to dream of going.

tunapawizzy:

Hahaha.....e fit work sister....tell him u will give him good food and good FOOD

I cook nice Nigerian meals too.
In d oza room I'm not that bad

If op won't, others will

And if its this single life we want take die,I can't come n kill myself

maasoap:


God, I hate people that the first words that come out of their mouth is "poverty mentality". They always see everything through poverty! Sickening!
Like people didn't die in USA, UK, Canada during covid-19 that killed Abba Kyari. Or, you were told that there are no facilities in some hospitals in Nigeria that compare to the ones in developed nations? You're ignorant.

And concerning security, people that die on daily basis through violence in USA far surpassed that of Nigeria.

You're dumb, kid. America's death is more documented than Nigeria's. Can your President confidently come out to tell us the statistics of death in Nigeria? Do you know the number of Nigerians that have died due to the herdsmen incessant attacks? Do you know the number of Nigerians that have died due to UGM? Many undocumented deaths!

Bksense:


Ok

I love this your response, you just discern the person you are engaging.

Bro, what part of Canada do you live in? Let's chat 2347063091121

mvem:
You know that the expectation going abroad is great that when you go and see it is not that rosy, you can't project it to your people down home

Why?

Because the expectation is high and no one will ever agree that you are having it tough. So most times what you see people enjoying and all that is them trying to project something to you down home. It's very tough in western world. You have all the basics like water,light, welfare etc and you can make some money and send home

But what many can't understand is lifestyle is totally different. I can relate to him not being able to talk to anyone. They are very independent here and lack community life. That's why they don't play with mental health. The whole system fu*ks up some individual head. Also hardship is of another form that you can't relate until you see it. The normal hardship will relate to is being not able to eat well, having no basic amenities etc. But in the western world they do have it but in another form not what you can relate to

This is in no way to discourag your pursuit of the greener pastures but sometimes it is good to have a better context of all these so that you won't come and start writing epistle like the OP or me...it is a different world out here but still pursue your dreams and know that you can never replace home

He is not talking thrash about the society, he is just venting. Anyone staying or new to Europe or America can relate to him. Our societies are different so being real about this is not him taking it out on them

His venting is unreasonable. It's stale.

Move to USA Canada is asshole

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

if I may ask. What pathway did you use in coming and what kind of job did you do? Sorry if this sounds like intruding into your personal life

it's worse for women, all my female friends abroad no dey gree me rest.... loneliness.... I mean konji.
everybody dey fear each other, unlike Naija wey fit nack any how as long as you get accommodation or fit spend on hotel.

op just hustle, move enter US or UK or kukuma marry.

for income, if you're not in tech or health sector jobs you won't get munch abroad easily.

you can do side hussle on YouTube

SIRTee15:


That's not true. If are ready to wait 8 hours in A/E, u will definitely see a doctor. But don't complain if they send u away with paracetamol, because I don't understand why you want to see a doctor for simple headache.

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We are saying the same thing.

Unless it is an emergency, you won't see a doctor.

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

My prayer is let everyone ranting get their VISA's to go the abload�����

faithfull18:

You aren't the audience, now run along.

Still end up saying nothing

Loneliness is one of the biggest problems facing migrants. If you have not lived abroad you will not understand .... the same way that those who have not travelled to colder climes cannot really understand how cold it gets in winter unless they experience it. One can only see things through his local culture and believe the same can apply abroad. If one has family and friends abroad ... it will not be as hard but .... friends and family may be living a long distance away and most likely not find time to visit. Thanksgiving Day .... tomorrow ... is the day when they make an effort to gather together.... then off they go back to their own little bubbles. If someone like OP does not have family closeby.... loneliness is likely to be a bitch especially if not the very social type and with heavy Naija accent.

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

E be like say una no know the kine system wey abroad be. Except you are an innovator or a business man who sells something, the system is designed to keep you just to be able to work, pay your bills and get old. In 3yeats you get 20k, you even try...hahaha, some people np dey get shishi and this one na say u even single so you fit suffer yourself to cough that money out, that money is even chicken change because na CAD no be even USD. Never leave cash savings, invest it in something especially real estate back home. You dey complain and im sure you never even get family. E sure me say shishi you no fit put aside monthly. 13k monthly sef no dey reach for family of four monthly. You will only just be living a little above average but cash crunch dey dey

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

If you are in Ottawa, please send me a DM. There is a massive Nigerian community in Ottawa. We support and encourage each other. Each summer there are Nigerian parties bi-weekly (even tribal parties). Its awesome. You do not have to be alone.

There are also sister branches in other cities in Ontario.

Thortp:
I commented 1st on that thread.
The same Agbaje who can't pay his staff well. Most of bank IT workers don japa already.

You see Nigeria's no. 1 problem is there is no even distribution of wealth. We are OPEC member but nothing to show for it. Please watch Qatar World cup documentary to see what they call an oil producing country.

It takes a loving and sincere person to lead you to the path of prosperity bro

Bro, I'm aware of all that and Qatar is a country with 3m population and majority are even migrants!

Go and check Saudi Arabia's 2030 development plans!

The problem with Nigeria is accountability and responsibility. Even if we diversify and stop relying majority on oil, we are still going to have same issues. The new discovery of oil in Gombe and Bauchi is great but I don't see any positive outcome because the people in charge won't make any difference.

xevove2061:


E be like say una no know the kine system wey abroad be. Except you are an innovator or a business man who sells something, the system is designed to keep you just to be able to work, pay your bills and get old. In 3yeats you get 20k, you even try...hahaha, some people np dey get shishi and this one na say u even single so you fit suffer yourself to cough that money out, that money is even chicken change because na CAD no be even USD. Never leave cash savings, invest it in something especially real estate back home. You dey complain and im sure you never even get family. E sure me say shishi you no fit put aside monthly. 13k monthly sef no dey reach for family of four monthly. You will only just be living a little above average but cash crunch dey dey

You mean 13k Cad isn't enough for a Family of 4??

Golan007:
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We are saying the same thing.

Unless it is an emergency, you won't see a doctor.

We are not saying the same thing. You will see a doctor in A/E who will send u home with paracetamol....since u are too lazy to manage simple ailments by yourself.

Aareona:
Earlier this year, I went back in time to few years back when I was doing so well in Nigeria. The noises from friends and all nurtured the decision to move abroad inside of me. I became so restless till I finally leave. The first day in Canada was the day I knew this place isn't where I can be forever. Most of us would have come back before the time we had in mind except for the fact that I don't still have enough. If I want to travel to naija for vacation now, I will need up to $4k. If I take that away from my savings, I don't know how I can recover.

No one tells about the downside of this place. I feel lonely, depressed and empty most times. Because no one to talk to, just everyone in my workplace goin about their business. If I make attempt to talk to them, they just waive it with a smile. It's been 3years here and the people I still talk to on video call are friends from Nigeria. It's been 3years and my savings is still Short of $20k despite how much my friends in Nigeria do tell me how easy it is for me to make money abroad but I never tell them my situation. I can't wait to make enough and leave Canada for good. I know a lot will come at me with the usuall "come back to Nigeria na", please this is not an attempt to denigrate your abroad heaven, just for me to rant out and be fine

If you really know what you want in life, you should have been on your way back to Nigeria already and not wasting time typing this epistle for us to debate on. You don't really need us to help you decide on what to do if you have an objective in life, this whole talk about loneliness sounds so absurd except you were living in Oshodi before you traveled out if not I don't know what other means of communication that you need when you can still talk to your relatives and friends on video calls. It could have made more sense if you had used any other excuse rather than loneliness plus you don't want to remove up to $4k from your savings to come back. Come back already and finish up that your $20k in less than 1 year and rest. Just stop discouraging other serious minded people who still have prospects of making it abroad, it's not everyone that is aimless and indecisive in life.

Bksense:


I work with an international organization in Nigeria. Left Canada few years back. And I will tell you now that while healthcare isn't really strong in Nigeria, you can have access to doctors, nurses and health centre easily more than you can in Canada. It's also cheap. Some people prefer to fly home for surgery because of the expense.

I'm also currently in Canada for a conference. Need I tell you I can't even wait to leave already by next week.

Na una dey make our doctors Japa cos of the cheap pay you offer them...

Lol I moved to Germany August this year. Guessed who is forking out 4K euro to visit home December? Yes that’s me!

I’m totally zoned out , I work from home and most days I go by without talking to a single soul. I’m happy for my career but bring stuck in abroad for so long is not for me. This feeling of emptiness won’t end me Amen.

Just like the OP said I realised that finance is the reason most people don’t visit naija when they leave
. No place like home. Moving abroad single is easier but it’s not worth it

Ransomware:


Ranting is ok. Fly down south to H-town TX. Let some of those west houston Naija boys show you around. No need to travel far.

If the OP ready he should hit me up make we show am as e dey go for West Houston. Don’t worry you will have free accommodation. That aside, I have very bad reservations about Canada. Only those that have gone there can tell the story. Many of them cannot even afford tickets to travel within the so called Canada.

You are very correct bro.

MufasaLion:


Bro, I'm aware of all that and Qatar is a country with 3m population and majority are even migrants!

Go and check Saudi Arabia's 2030 development plans!

The problem with Nigeria is accountability and responsibility. Even if we diversify and stop relying majority on oil, we are still going to have same issues. The new discovery of oil in Gombe and Bauchi is great but I don't see any positive outcome because the people in charge won't make any difference.

faithfull18:
Let's trade places . You will be fine.

In this life, knowing what you want, why you want it, is very essential. One has to live above the noise and know why you are doing what you are doing.

But OP, some people are enjoying this abroad you are complaining about, such is life. What works for one may not work for the other.

What am I saying sef, long story short, know what you want, why you want it and why you are doing what you are doing, avoid the crowd mentality or the 'everybody is doing it' thingy.

most are lying. maybe 2 of 10 enjoy it.

Inali:
if I may ask. What pathway did you use in coming and what kind of job did you do? Sorry if this sounds like intruding into your personal life

People like him won't answer that but will be quick to come online and chant "abroad is hard" mantra for their gullible family and ignorant people online.

If you go abroad legally and well planned, you won't come online to lament.

Someone save $20k still dey complain of loneliness dem no get brothel or club there?...Hanya!

gaby:
Human wants/needs are indeed insatiable.

Una go complain about Naija, complain about U.S., complain about U.K...so so complain.

Carry dem go heaven dem go still complain say the place too white or the angels clothes as dem depict am to us too bright...haba..

God, nature, and the universe abhors ingratitude and complains to no end.
Why would your savings not perpetually be hovering below the 20k mark when all you see and do is negatives?

Una no understand life and her workings.

You attract what you exhude...logic, but not a simple one to wrap an immature and inexperirnced mind around.

Whiners....

Make una get to work and mould your ideal country. We dey wait.

Integration, acclimatization, and adjustment are always foreign to you whiners and negativists.

NB
Are Nigerians the only people emigrating to the West?

Go to the US, Canada, and the UK to understand that Nigerians are learners in migration.

These other immigrants particularly the Indians and Latinos migrate in droves, set up businesses, and taking up much of the business spaces while helping each other grow and expand.

Buy our own na "I want be the only one to succeed so that every one go dey worship me and if I fail in that regards, I'd start canceling and discouraging emigration over unfounded half-truths".

The US for example was made by immigrants and slaves and is today a melting pot of every culture in the world because it is what it is.

There are enough jobs that they do not have citizens willing to do them and the immigrabts of today whose home countries are nothing to write home about are picking up these jobs with all pleasure and raking in fantastic earnings.

Sickening...

No mind them. Most of them are used to poke nosing in other people's businesses, and as them no see the opportunity, na die Dem dey so.
Aproko ppl them.
Ppl like us can't wait to geddifok outta this holier than thou shithole of a country and people called Nigeria and Nigerians respectively.

Na wah! I don’t understand people o…there are lots of places to socialize, go out there if you feel lonely. Register in a gym, go to social gathering and events in hotels, conferences, go to clubs, go shopping, go watch a movie, go to a coffee shop, go to skating, reading club, dating apps and hook up. People are just being lazy to socialize, put it some efforts. It’s not like naija where you grew up and have folks you grew up with all over you.

faithfull18:



But OP, some people are enjoying this abroad you are complaining about, such is life.

what's your definition of enjoyment?

He's talking about loneliness not enjoyment.

You might even have money and yet be lonely.

You're a black living in the midst of whites. Do you know what it means ?

Imagine being the only black in your office and the neighbourhood.

Trust me money can't solve everything