Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās (Arabic)
Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau (Arabic)
Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah (Arabic)
Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah (Arabic)
Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)

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LegalWolf:


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advocatejare:

advocatejare:
Antichristian, Haekymbahd, Lukuluku69, Rash4ductluv, NeoWanZaeed, motayoayinde, IMAliyu, LegalWolf

AntiChristian:


If you want to be foolish, be foolish on your own and stop my mentions!

"YHVH" at best!

You don't make sense!

oteneaaron:


No offense, but instead of insulting him, why don't you answer his questions?

Just like you criticize other religions, you should accept the reality that your religion would be criticized too.

Don't give what you can't take.

Kindly answer the OP, have constructive debates and stop throwing insults all around.

Cheers!

AntiChristian:


If you want to be foolish, be foolish on your own and stop my mentions!

You don't make sense!

AntiChristian:


No offense taken!
Did i mention his name on my threads?

Abeg if you can't judge well just keep mute cos you'll also be judged erroneously as you judge me now!

advocatejare:

There is a dilemma for Muslims, they believe that Yahweh is not Allah because of the 99 names of Allah, Yahweh is not one of them and the deeds and attributes of Yahweh and Allah are different, yet there are prophets of Yahweh whose names reflect Yahweh that Muslims claim were prophets of Allah.


This error came into place because the authors of the Quran just plagiarize the Jewish scriptures without proper editing and thanks to technology advancement, the errors that were not visible to desert dwellers of those days are now visible to the whole world.

Check the names of the Jewish prophets below:


Thanks to TenQ who made this compilation easier
Confusion of Allah, Islamic prophet have names of Yahweh and not Allah



[quote author=advocatejare post=119094799]
Muslims know that Allah is not Yahweh, and yet they claim that Yahweh’s prophet whose names reflect Yahweh are dubiously claimed by the authors of the Quran as the prophet of Allah!

advocatejare:

Can a Hindu worshipper name his children after Osun/Ogun etc?

advocatejare:

Oteneaaron

When AntiChristian is asked questions on his post, he won’t answer he would submit that “don’t derail my thread, create your topic and mention me”

Now we are mentioning him but because he doesn’t have answers, he’s sulking!

AntiChristian:


So did i gave you permission to mention me in perpetuity?
Abi which kind argument be this?

advocatejare:

We know your tactic, anytime you’re exposed and lacks meaningful things to respond with, you resort into insults

Why won’t I mention you when you’re the one always saying “create your topic and mention me”

If you can’t answer this question, I understand your plight, defending Islam is not easy because there are so many inaccuracies. How can Allah name his prophet after the name Yahweh? Names that gives glory to Yahweh. Allah is confused, so are you his slaves!

It won’t because Allah has blinded your heart


“Allāh has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.”
-Quran 2:7

advocatejare:

So I should always ask for your permission before I mention you?

Antichristian can I mention you on this thread ?

AntiChristian:


No offense taken!
Did i mention his name on my threads?

Abeg if you can't judge well just keep mute cos you'll also be judged erroneously as you judge me now!

haekymbahd:
Really, how did they know are you just making an assumption

Allah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

Exodus 6
2. And God spoke to Moses and said to him: “I am the Lord.

AntiChristian:


So did i gave you permission to mention me in perpetuity?
Abi which kind argument be this?

AntiChristian:

Hausa Bible (Farawa 1:1)
1A sa'ad da Allah ya fara halittar Sama da duniya,

And when they commit a fahisha (evil deed, going round the Kabah in naked state, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.), they say: "We found our fathers doing it and Allah has commanded us of it." ...
- Qur'an 7:28, Muhsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali translation.


Naked Tawaf
Sahih al-Bukhari 369
Narrated Abu Huraira:
On the Day of Nahr (10th of Dhul-Hija, in the year
prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Abu Bakr
was the leader of the pilgrims in that Haji) Abu Bakr
sent me along with other announcers to Mina to make
a public announcement: "No pagan is allowed to
perform Hajj after this year and no naked person is
allowed to perform the Tawaf around the Ka'ba. Then
Allah's Apostle sent 'Ali to read out the Surat Bara'a
(at-Tauba) to the people; so he
made the
announcement along with us on the day of Nahr in
Mina:
"No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this
year and no naked person is allowed to perform the
Tawaf around the Kaba."

It is during the tawaf that many women experience groping, handling and grabbing, says Eltahawy, according to the responses she's heard from women. "It's very crowded. At any given moment, there are thousands of men and women [circling Kaaba at one time].""
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/26/588855132/-mosquemetoo-gives-muslim-women-a-voice-about-sexual-misconduct-at-mecca?t=1589006156833

AntiChristian:


OK, now stop mentioning me again!

LegalWolf:


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advocatejare:

There is a dilemma for Muslims, they believe that Yahweh is not Allah because of the 99 names of Allah, Yahweh is not one of them and the deeds and attributes of Yahweh and Allah are different, yet there are prophets of Yahweh whose names reflect Yahweh that Muslims claim were prophets of Allah.


This error came into place because the authors of the Quran just plagiarize the Jewish scriptures without proper editing and thanks to technology advancement, the errors that were not visible to desert dwellers of those days are now visible to the whole world.

Check the names of the Jewish prophets below:


Thanks to TenQ who made this compilation easier
Confusion of Allah, Islamic prophet have names of Yahweh and not Allah




Muslims know that Allah is not Yahweh, and yet they claim that Yahweh’s prophet whose names reflect Yahweh are dubiously claimed by the authors of the Quran as the prophet of Allah!


Can a Hindu worshipper name his children after Osun/Ogun etc?

LegalWolf:
Smiles,

I actually wAnt to avoid another disaster who cannot think before he constructs argument and that is why I really wanted you to establish your credentials before I give you that scarce attention of mine.

1. Was El, who the Jews derived ELOAH or its plural variant Elohim, a Canaanite God or not?

2. Do you know that quite a lot of biblical scholars (I’ll want to express the opinion that they are almost unanimous) are of the view that yhwh was originally a son of EL/ELYON/ELOAH ?

3. And if you do not know this, do you know that the original version of Deut 32: 8 - 9 originally read “ according to the number of the children of El” and not Israel?

Again, just asking for your views. And if you’ll consider it worthwhile to respond, please let it be grounded in authoritative sources not insinuations!

advocatejare:

So have you established the credentials?

advocatejare:


I will teach you like I have taught those before you.
El/Elohim simply means God in Hebrews
Just like Ilah means God in Arabic

advocatejare:


Anything not found in the scriptures is not acceptable, just like if I give you something that is not found in your Quran, hadith or Sira will you accept it? So carry your bullshit lie about Biblical scholars away

advocatejare:

Anytime Muslims are exposed that their Allah is an idol and not the same as the Allah Arabic-speaking Christians worship, Muslims run to get validation from the Christians. [b] Islam Allah is a moon and star idol whose image they put at the top of the minarets of their mosques....

advocatejare:

Another lie from the slave of Al-Makireena the best of the deceivers!

So you now have access to the original Deuteronomy that your likes have been saying is lost?

advocatejare:


Israel knew their God as Yahweh,

They named their prophet after Yahweh like I showed above

The authors of the Quran who never acknowledged Yahweh as their god, stupidly copied the name of prophets of Yahweh and claimed it as prophet of Allah.

Now that I’ve asked your questions, would be honorable to answer mine?

Why did Allah name his prophet after Yahweh?

LegalWolf:
LOL!
[s]
You are quite an interesting person. You have written over a hundred posts and a cross-check of many of your posts is laughable at best. But that is not the issue. Let me go to the core points here:
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Off course not. The only thing this shows is that you are not credentialed enough for me to spend my time on. If your subsequent posts does not hit the issue on the head, I will laugh as usual and ignore. I gotta make this money, man!

Smiles! Again, you are such an interesting person. Remember you cannot teach what you know not, or can you? Please know that this does NOT answer the very simple question. I don't know if what is appearing on your screen is different from mine or does it appear that I asked you for the meaning of El? [



[s] Real 'advocates' will say the issue here is a very narrow one that should not muddled up. Let me put it in highlight so you can see the question clearly: [/s]

Smiles! Off course, anything not found in the scripture is unacceptable. But you once said here:

(underline mine)

Apparently, you made reference to texts/sources outside the Quran to deduce this when engaging Antichristian and haekymbahd, or am I wrong in my assumption? If I am wrong, which it will be interesting, can you point out to the 'scriptural' source for this? (and even remember that literally, hadith and sunnah are not scriptures). It will be interesting to see, honestly.

And again, have you ever bothered to know which point in Islamic history that moon was used as our 'sign' on minarets and the context behind it? (Anyways, this is irrelevant)

Again, you did not answer my question. To respond to you, and as far as I know, the texts in which Deuteronomy was based is the Leningrad Codex (LC) which is dated around 1000 years or so ago. But there is a more juicy text - the Dead See Scrolls. This texts is at least 2000 years old and I must admit that it contains quite a lot of similarity to the LC. However, there are some important if not fundamental differences and one of which is Deut 32: 8 - 9.

The Dead See Scrolls is currently held in Israel and this website provides an helpful insight to the texts as we have them. Please you can have a look at it.

http://dssenglishbible.com/deuteronomy%2032.htm

In fact, to the best of my knowledge - that verse clearly reads bny el in the oldest extant variant of the bible we have and not bn yisra'el! So apparently, you guys do what you know how to do best

LOL! You answered no question of mine. Absolutely no question of mine was answered and all you did was just to throw tantrums. When you are not rooted in logic, common sense and reason, this is what is expected. And this is why lukuluku69 always call you all to think rather than wasting time with you!

Anyways, TenQ has said he wants to write a topic on this issue. I really hope one day he does. And when he does, I hope he takes cognizance of the Older Texts of the Bible, historical nuances and what credible research (ers) have said on the topic and not cussing/insults. You will agree with me that cussing is atypical of what is expected of reasonable people, or am I wrong on this too?

LegalWolf:
LOL!

You are quite an interesting person. You have written over a hundred posts and a cross-check of many of your posts is laughable at best. But that is not the issue. Let me go to the core points here:



Off course not. The only thing this shows is that you are not credentialed enough for me to spend my time on. If your subsequent posts does not hit the issue on the head, I will laugh as usual and ignore. I gotta make this money, man!




Smiles! Again, you are such an interesting person. Remember you cannot teach what you know not, or can you? Please know that this does NOT answer the very simple question. I don't know if what is appearing on your screen is different from mine or does it appear that I asked you for the meaning of El?

Real 'advocates' will say the issue here is a very narrow one that should not muddled up. Let me put it in highlight so you can see the question clearly:

Was El, who the Jews derived ELOAH or its plural variant Elohim, a Canaanite God or not?



Smiles! Off course, anything not found in the scripture is unacceptable. But you once said here:

(underline mine)

Apparently, you made reference to texts/sources outside the Quran to deduce this when engaging Antichristian and haekymbahd, or am I wrong in my assumption? If I am wrong, which it will be interesting, can you point out to the 'scriptural' source for this? (and even remember that literally, hadith and sunnah are not scriptures). It will be interesting to see, honestly.

And again, have you ever bothered to know which point in Islamic history that moon was used as our 'sign' on minarets and the context behind it? (Anyways, this is irrelevant)



Again, you did not answer my question. To respond to you, and as far as I know, the texts in which Deuteronomy was based is the Leningrad Codex (LC) which is dated around 1000 years or so ago. But there is a more juicy text - the Dead See Scrolls. This texts is at least 2000 years old and I must admit that it contains quite a lot of similarity to the LC. However, there are some important if not fundamental differences and one of which is Deut 32: 8 - 9.

The Dead See Scrolls is currently held in Israel and this website provides an helpful insight to the texts as we have them. Please you can have a look at it.

http://dssenglishbible.com/deuteronomy%2032.htm

In fact, to the best of my knowledge - that verse clearly reads bny el in the oldest extant variant of the bible we have and not bn yisra'el! So apparently, you guys do what you know how to do best



LOL! You answered no question of mine. Absolutely no question of mine was answered and all you did was just to throw tantrums. When you are not rooted in logic, common sense and reason, this is what is expected. And this is why lukuluku69 always call you all to think rather than wasting time with you!

Anyways, TenQ has said he wants to write a topic on this issue. I really hope one day he does. And when he does, I hope he takes cognizance of the Older Texts of the Bible, historical nuances and what credible research (ers) have said on the topic and not cussing/insults. You will agree with me that cussing is atypical of what is expected of reasonable people, or am I wrong on this too?

TenQ:
Cc:
advocatejare
Please Watch how LegalWolf would respond with volumes of meaningless rants to hide his shallowness!



When someone's ignorance is beyond measure he posts volumes in ignorance.

El is a Semitic word which means DEITY! Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are all Semitic languages.

Examples:
El-Shaddai
El-ohim
El-Elyon

Are all names of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Sometimes, the El (Hebrew) or Al (Arabic) is replaced with THE to emphasize the uniqueness of the Deity.

In Arabic:
Al replaces El
Examples:
The three Daughters of Allah
Al-Manat = god Manat
Al-Lat. = god Lat
Al-Uzza. = god Uzza
AND the Islamic God himself
Al-Lah. = god Lah


This is why you Muslims will say
Alhamdudi-Lah INSTEAD of Alhamdudi-Allah
AND
Bismil-Lah INSTEAD of Bismil-Allah


Even your prophet's father's name is
Abdul-Lah= Servant of Lah INSTEAD of Abdul-Allah


Please keep quiet when you are not learned about a FACT!

advocatejare:

LegalWolf, Lukuluku69 and his likes always think that writing long meaningless things will confuse us, they don’t know that we read them and see how empty their useless rants are.
Let’s keeping teaching them sense

TenQ:
Cc:
advocatejare
Please Watch how LegalWolf would respond with volumes of meaningless rants to hide his shallowness!



When someone's ignorance is beyond measure he posts volumes in ignorance.

El is a Semitic word which means DEITY! Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are all Semitic languages.

Examples:
El-Shaddai
El-ohim
El-Elyon

Are all names of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Sometimes, the El (Hebrew) or Al (Arabic) is replaced with THE to emphasize the uniqueness of the Deity.

TenQ:

In Arabic:
Al replaces El
Examples:
The three Daughters of Allah
Al-Manat = god Manat
Al-Lat. = god Lat
Al-Uzza. = god Uzza
AND the Islamic God himself
Al-Lah. = god Lah

TenQ:


This is why you Muslims will say
Alhamdudi-Lah INSTEAD of Alhamdudi-Allah
AND
Bismil-Lah INSTEAD of Bismil-Allah


Even your prophet's father's name is
Abdul-Lah= Servant of Lah INSTEAD of Abdul-Allah


Please keep quiet when you are not learned about a FACT!

advocatejare:

LegalWolf, Lukuluku69 and his likes always think that writing long meaningless things will confuse us, they don’t know that we read them and see how empty their useless rants are.
Let’s keeping teaching them sense