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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 7:29pm On Apr 11
โšกRussia has accelerated its production to more than 8,000 FAB aerial bombs of various modifications per month.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 7:44pm On Apr 11
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 7:51pm On Apr 11
Vic2023:
The US says it does not rule out โ€œjoint retaliatory strikesโ€ with Israel if it comes under attack from Iran or Iranian proxy groups

"Retaliatory strikes," as if Israel wasn't the offensive party. Anybody that thinks religion is the problem of the Middle East and not these bastards needs to seriously question his intelligence.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 7:58pm On Apr 11
lanre316:


Everything in the West is definitely NAZI. Even the 4 alphabets that makes up the word NATO is proof that NAZI = NATO. Why use 4 letter for NATO instead of 3 or 5.

Any English words with S or Z in it is also a definite proof that the West is NAZI.

Anything that symbolize thunder is NAZI. Another proof that West is NAZI.

Any military building in the West that coincidentaly resemble S or Z is a definite proof that West is NAZI.

Failure to see this means that the West has brainwashed you.
My question to you is: If truly you know this, why do you still support them?


Or are you brainwashed too?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 8:02pm On Apr 11
โšกRussia's armed forces have grown larger and not dwindled during its war in Ukraine, a top US general said on Wednesday.

"The army is actually now larger โ€” by 15 percent โ€” than it was when it invaded Ukraine," US Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe, told the House Armed Services Committee in a hearing.

"Over the past year, Russia increased its front-line troop strength from 360,000 to 470,000," Cavoli continued.

"In sum, Russia is on track to command the largest military on the continent," Cavoli said in his opening statement to Congress.

"Regardless of the outcome of the war in Ukraine, Russia will be larger, more lethal, and angrier with the West than when it invaded," he added.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 8:03pm On Apr 11
Masterviolence:

My question to you is: If truly you know this, why do you still support them?


Or are you brainwashed too?

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

You missed the obvious sarcasm

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 8:06pm On Apr 11
FoolishBoy419:


"Retaliatory strikes," as if Israel wasn't the offensive party. Anybody that thinks religion is the problem of the Middle East and not these bastards needs to seriously question his intelligence.

It's actually a combination of religion, bloodthirstiness of Arabs and the West meddling in the geopolitics of the Middle East. Deadly combination!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 8:10pm On Apr 11
TrumpBiden:
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You don't need to be Muslim to support Hamas, you just need to be the dumbest human

Your IQ cannot be above 70

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 8:14pm On Apr 11
WrriterNg:
โšกAccording to U.S. Officials, a Rotation of Combat Aircraft with the Israeli Air Force have remained Airborne now for the last 48 Hours along their Northern, Eastern, and Southern Borders with other Squadrons in the North of the Country in a โ€œHigh Alert Statusโ€ able to Scramble within 10 Minutes of Iranian Missiles being in the Air.

I don't know why they go about causing tensions around the world unnecessarily.
Why you you bomb another country's embassy and kill their diplomats then turn around preparing for war.
I believe they deliberately want Iran to come out of her shells and attack. Like they have a plan for her, if not I don't see any other reason.
They have been setting the traps for long for Iran praying and hoping she falls into it so that they can deal her a big blow, split up the country into a smaller weaker one or a regime change.
They have placed so many embargoes on her, killed her scientist for nuclear while they have theirs fully in store, kill their military leaders and also killed their diplomats all just to provoke her into war and start screaming all round the world and media that Iran is the aggressor and NATO should help isreal.
It's not their fault. No one's has been keeping them busy so they have all the time in the world to be distablizing countries all round the world.
Assuming mexico, Cuba and other close by countries have been rationed with foreign military bases and armed to the teeth, using them as bases for training terrorists, rebels and people who want to disintegrate them, they won't have much time distablizing far off countries
Stupid idiots

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 8:28pm On Apr 11
WrriterNg:
โšกThe Russian Federation no longer agrees to negotiations on Ukraine on the basis of the Istanbul Agreements, the โ€œgeopolitical situation is different nowโ€, Kremlin Spokesman Peskov says.
grin grin grin

As expected.

The man with the iron balls sets the rules grin
And the man with plastic balls either obey or get broken into pieces > grin
More missiles to the Russians. grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 8:29pm On Apr 11
โšกMore than 50 countries including all members have confirmed participation in the BRICS Games, which will be held in Kazan in June - Minister of Sports of the Russian Federation Matytsin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 8:32pm On Apr 11
โšก7 largest thermal power plants in Ukraine.

First 2 are controlled by Russia.

The other 5 were either completely destroyed or badly damaged in the past 3 weeks.

17,404 MWe combined.

In 2016 overall Ukraine generated 56,170 MWe.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:37pm On Apr 11
Procashtips:


Russia is not afraid of sanctions from the US if this is one of the reasons you think Russia is hesitant in selling S 4++ to Iran.

I just believe it's more of holding on to your comparative advantage.

If Iran is serious, she should build here too. They have the technology, they have their own witches and wizards capable of helping them achieve these things.
But religion won't let them go fully into the supernatural+technology.

Currently watching Dune (Part one).

Whoever thinks that these badass technologies aren't ideas gotten from the supernatural is naive. People in Europe, N.A and some parts of Asia make use of their demons/witches and wizards well (for internal strengths)

Nah.

The trouble with the Axis Powers is that their all-hands-on-deck cooperation really only began to simmer recently.
These are all former foes who are in a marriage of convenience because the West wants to pick them apart one by one.

This capability gap does not only apply to Iran.
Russia waited until the Ukraine War to get serious with drones. Thank the stars Iran had amassed superlative capability in this area and the technology is easily transferable.
Russia will have to beef up the alliance. It is still the leader in fighter jet, EW, spaced-based warfare, AD, and several more areas.
The West pulled ranks to develop the F-35 platform. Look at quickly they were able to complete development and ramp up production.

Russia's technical edge plus China's manufacturing prowess is a game changer.
If Russia can outproduce the West, then imagine for a second what adding China's productivity does for the Axis cohort.
I really do hope they coordinate better and leverage their strengths to make up for each other's weaknesses.

For instance, there's no reason really why China and Russia do not develop export variants of their 5th gen fighters for their close allies who have proven their mettle.
Set aside a percentage of annual production and use financial engineering to stagger payments.
Iran should have hit Israel already. If it had the AD and interceptor capabilities that China + Russia could have provided before this bust up, they wouldn't be so panicky about a US/Israel retaliation.

Israel has entire squadrons of F-35 while Iran only just signed off on a deal to acquire last-gen Su-35 (not Su-57 or J-20) in November 2023.
It's appalling.

-Lord

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 8:43pm On Apr 11
lanre316:


๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

You missed the obvious sarcasm
Some resort to claim sarcasm when caught red-handed.

Good one anyways

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 8:51pm On Apr 11
Iran must hit Israel.

If she doesn't then bad days awaits her.

By the way, why has Iran not produce a nuke by now?
If Iran continues like this with delays on her nuclear program, on day Israel and his big bad brother will destroy Iran.




This is why I like Russia.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:52pm On Apr 11
emmaodet:


I don't know why they go about causing tensions around the world unnecessarily.
Why you you bomb another country's embassy and kill their diplomats then turn around preparing for war.
I believe they deliberately want Iran to come out of her shells and attack. Like they have a plan for her, if not I don't see any other reason.
They have been setting the traps for long for Iran praying and hoping she falls into it so that they can deal her a big blow, split up the country into a smaller weaker one or a regime change.
They have placed so many embargoes on her, killed her scientist for nuclear while they have theirs fully in store, kill their military leaders and also killed their diplomats all just to provoke her into war and start screaming all round the world and media that Iran is the aggressor and NATO should help isreal.
It's not their fault. No one's has been keeping them busy so they have all the time in the world to be distablizing countries all round the world.
Assuming mexico, Cuba and other close by countries have been rationed with foreign military bases and armed to the teeth, using them as bases for training terrorists, rebels and people who want to disintegrate them, they won't have much time distablizing far off countries
Stupid idiots

Well, they've simultaneously awaken the Dragon, the Bear, and the Lion.
Whatever advantages they possess is on borrowed time.
Use it or lose it.

That's why they're baiting and provoking everyone.
From Ukraine to Taiwan.
Russia sha no gree for them because they can hold their own. But Iran will have to be more circumspect.
China has seen the writing on the Wall and is rapidly modernizing its military.

-Lord

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde: 8:56pm On Apr 11
lanre316:


It's actually a combination of religion, bloodthirstiness of Arabs and the West meddling in the geopolitics of the Middle East. Deadly combination!

"Bloodthirstiness" of the Arabs or the west?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ClassicNairan: 9:00pm On Apr 11
Masterviolence:

My question to you is: If truly you know this, why do you still support them?


Or are you brainwashed too?

You obviously failed to see the sarcasm here, he is just mocking
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:02pm On Apr 11
lanre316:


It's actually a combination of religion, bloodthirstiness of Arabs and the West meddling in the geopolitics of the Middle East. Deadly combination!

Religion plays very little role if you look into it deeply. Any group of people that have seen wars for a long time would behave differently and don't forget that many Muslim countries are peaceful and prosperous. If religion or Arab culture was the causative factor; Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, etc would all be facing serous security problems too. But look at these countries and look at Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Palestine. Both are Arab/muslim countries but one group is fighting internally and externally at all times while the other is peaceful, and the key factor distinguishing them is that the second group have faced serious interference from the West. Iraq was illegally invaded, the CIA orchestrated a coup against a Democratic government in Iran, they (white people) imposed their cold war madness on Afghans and gave birth to Taliban, they sponsored "rebels" and assisted them with airstrikes to destablize Libya and then attempted to do the same to Syria later on, and they imposed Europeans on Palestinians just as they did to other races in other parts of the world (which resulted in serious genocides and oppression in ALL cases).

So when next you hear about Iran's many proxies, remember that Iran was once a heavily westernized country until the CIA decided that it was bad for US interests.

When next you hear that America's drones have "mistakenly" killed Afghan civilians while targeting Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists, remember that USA gave birth to them in order to fight USSR, a Union of White states.

When next you hear that ISIS has beheaded a civilian somewhere in Syria, remember that they are products of the Free Syrian Army that the West had spent billions training and arming against the legitimate government of Syria.

When next you hear that Hamas has launched rockets towards tel Aviv, thank the West for imposing their white siblings on them while heavily arming and encouraging them to kill and attack whoever they wish.

Western influence is responsible for 90% of the Middle East's contemporary problems. The "bloodthirstiness of Arabs" you are talking about is merely an outcome. Religion did its own centuries ago.

Is Islam adding firewood to the conflicts? Yes, but there's no such thing as the "blood thirstiness of Arabs." It is the bloodthirstiness of the White man.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde: 9:04pm On Apr 11
๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Zionist media Yedioth Ahronoth claimed few days ago that Indonesia wants to normalise relations with Israel.

Jakarta has denied the reports in Israeli media, saying that there are no plans to normalize with Israel.

๐Ÿšฉ @ResistanceTrench

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 9:09pm On Apr 11
โšก๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia's Angara-A5 rocket

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ClassicNairan: 9:10pm On Apr 11
lanre316:


It's actually a combination of religion, bloodthirstiness of Arabs and the West meddling in the geopolitics of the Middle East. Deadly combination!

Can u put more light on what you meant by "bloodthirstiness of Arabs"

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 9:13pm On Apr 11
WrriterNg:
โšก7 largest thermal power plants in Ukraine.

First 2 are controlled by Russia.

The other 5 were either completely destroyed or badly damaged in the past 3 weeks.

17,404 MWe combined.

In 2016 overall Ukraine generated 56,170 MWe.

Ukraine in war generate more power than Nigeria at peace time. This make me ask, is power generation and distribution a rocket science?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 9:15pm On Apr 11
Masterviolence:
Iran must hit Israel.

If she doesn't then bad days awaits her.

By the way, why has Iran not produce a nuke by now?
If Iran continues like this with delays on her nuclear program, on day Israel and his big bad brother will destroy Iran.




This is why I like Russia.

Attack your enemy when he least expect. I don't expect Iran to attack the Impostors now.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 9:21pm On Apr 11
LordAdam16:


Well, they've simultaneously awaken the Dragon, the Bear, and the Lion.
Whatever advantages they possess is on borrowed time.
Use it or lose it.

That's why they're baiting and provoking everyone.
From Ukraine to Taiwan.
Russia sha no gree for them because they can hold their own. But Iran will have to be more circumspect.
China has seen the writing on the Wall and is rapidly modernizing its military.

-Lord

Exactly bro.
Russia has proven itself, can't say that for Iran because their air defence and force kinda looks weak and if you can't win the air battle, you have lost even before starting the war.
This is what Russia observed that NATO doesn't go to war if they are not convinced they will win the air battle, reason why any country they want to invade, they always impose the no fly zone there so as to pound the country to rock ages.
The western backers are very very very brutal and if given a chance, they won't spare anything.
We have see their handrighting in Gaza, Sarajevo, Bosnia, Serbia, Libya etc.
They will flatten anything in sight whether children, women, NGO volunteers etc. Anything in sight.
The reason why they are still unsure of how to hit russia is because they are really not convinced they will win the air battle and even if they would, Putin is ready to go dirty.
Putin will not go down alone. He will use the nukes to the last one and each and every one of them go collect - Paris, London, Washington, Kiev, Poland etc. All of them go collect.
Whatever simulation they are doing, they better use their brain and snap out of their trance to reality. Reality is always different from simulation because in reality, many other factors unforseen will come in to play.
I believe they simulated the Russian invasion too and how they will contain Russian within months, now their initial simulation not only didn't fail, they have resorted to a panic mode of considering sending boots on ground which is far from their simulation.
They have spent far above the money they budgeted for this war in their simulation and that should teach them a big lesson if they ears to hear.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 9:21pm On Apr 11
motayoayinde:


"Bloodthirstiness" of the Arabs or the west?


It is something that I still don't understand till date. Most people around the world see muslims and blacks as violent monsters when a simple look at history and current affairs shows that White people are the most dangerous humans on earth. I don't know if it is because they have strong redeeming factors.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DystopianMuse(f): 9:28pm On Apr 11
Obviously.he is way too duma to get the sarcasmg.
lanre316:


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You missed the obvious sarcasm

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DystopianMuse(f): 9:35pm On Apr 11
LordAdam16:


Nah.

The trouble with the Axis Powers is that their all-hands-on-deck cooperation really only began to simmer recently.
These are all former foes who are in a marriage of convenience because the West wants to pick them apart one by one.

This capability gap does not only apply to Iran.
Russia waited until the Ukraine War to get serious with drones. Thank the stars Iran had amassed superlative capability in this area and the technology is easily transferable.
Russia will have to beef up the alliance. It is still the leader in fighter jet, EW, spaced-based warfare, AD, and several more areas.
The West pulled ranks to develop the F-35 platform. Look at quickly they were able to complete development and ramp up production.

Russia's technical edge plus China's manufacturing prowess is a game changer.
If Russia can outproduce the West, then imagine for a second what adding China's productivity does for the Axis cohort.
I really do hope they coordinate better and leverage their strengths to make up for each other's weaknesses.

For instance, there's no reason really why China and Russia do not develop export variants of their 5th gen fighters for their close allies who have proven their mettle.
Set aside a percentage of annual production and use financial engineering to stagger payments.
Iran should have hit Israel already. If it had the AD and interceptor capabilities that China + Russia could have provided before this bust up, they wouldn't be so panicky about a US/Israel retaliation.

Israel has entire squadrons of F-35 while Iran only just signed off on a deal to acquire last-gen Su-35 (not Su-57 or J-20) in No
-Lord
wow. The only sensible comment you've made in a while. I like the fact that you pointed out that the axis of evil have been foes before now. And only comes together due to shared antipathy to the usa
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 9:40pm On Apr 11
โšกRussia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov arrives in Minsk to chair the CIS Foreign Ministers Council meeting

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNg: 9:49pm On Apr 11
โšกNiger state television says Russian military instructors deployed to Niger on Wednesday โ€” Reuters

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by motayoayinde: 10:02pm On Apr 11
FoolishBoy419:


It is something that I still don't understand till date. Most people around the world see muslims and blacks as violent monsters when a simple look at history and current affairs shows that White people are the most dangerous humans on earth. I don't know if it is because they have strong redeeming factors.

The West violently invades Arab countries, kills them in the millions, steals their resources, causes massive unrest in their lands and sponsors violent extremist groups.

And what do our Western slaves here say?
The Arabs are bloodthirsty!!!

What a shame!

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 10:25pm On Apr 11
FoolishBoy419:


Religion plays very little role if you look into it deeply. Any group of people that have seen wars for a long time would behave differently and don't forget that many Muslim countries are peaceful and prosperous. If religion or Arab culture was the causative factor; Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, etc would all be facing serous security problems too. But look at these countries and look at Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Palestine. Both are Arab/muslim countries but one group is fighting internally and externally at all times while the other is peaceful, and the key factor distinguishing them is that the second group have faced serious interference from the West. Iraq was illegally invaded, the CIA orchestrated a coup against a Democratic government in Iran, they (white people) imposed their cold war madness on Afghans and gave birth to Taliban, they sponsored "rebels" and assisted them with airstrikes to destablize Libya and then attempted to do the same to Syria later on, and they imposed Europeans on Palestinians just as they did to other races in other parts of the world (which resulted in serious genocides and oppression in ALL cases).

So when next you hear about Iran's many proxies, remember that Iran was once a heavily westernized country until the CIA decided that it was bad for US interests.

When next you hear that America's drones have "mistakenly" killed Afghan civilians while targeting Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists, remember that USA gave birth to them in order to fight USSR, a Union of White states.

When next you hear that ISIS has beheaded a civilian somewhere in Syria, remember that they are products of the Free Syrian Army that the West had spent billions training and arming against the legitimate government of Syria.

When next you hear that Hamas has launched rockets towards tel Aviv, thank the West for imposing their white siblings on them while heavily arming and encouraging them to kill and attack whoever they wish.

Western influence is responsible for 90% of the Middle East's contemporary problems. The "bloodthirstiness of Arabs" you are talking about is merely an outcome. Religion did its own centuries ago.

Is Islam adding firewood to the conflicts? Yes, but there's no such thing as the "blood thirstiness of Arabs." It is the bloodthirstiness of the White man.


Solid points you made, I must admit.

If you read my post well. I didn't claim that the West are saints. Their unnecessary interference in Middle East geopolitics is a global disaster.

The bloodthirstiness of Arabs is exactly what it is. The "evil USA" also meddled in the internal politics of some SouthEast Asian nations especially Vietnam but you don't see Vietnamese or Philippines forever fighting and killing and terrorizing their neighbors because USA meddled in their geopolitics some years ago.

USA really goofed up in the Middle East dealings but the responsibility for all the blame for Middle East crisis is not 100% on them. Arabs sef too like wahala, if you want to admit the truth.

Those other relatively peaceful nations you mentioned didn't take the religion as serious you assume. eg Qatar, Jordan, UAE and Saudi Arabia. They are not as interested in any holy war to fight and kill any infidels like the bloodthirsty Arabs in those troubled nations.

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