agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.


Which one is the agnostic position:

a) The nature of god is unknown

or

b) It’s impossible to know if there are things in existence that fit the description of gods

KnownUnknown:
agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.


Which one is the agnostic position:

a) The nature of god is unknown

or

b) It’s impossible to know if there is such a thing as god.

That's one part of Agnosticism another part of it is that, there's no evidence for or against the existence of some certain gods

Workch:
That's one part of Agnosticism another part of it is that, there's no evidence for or against the existence of God

That’s the only part.

What is “God” other than your “agnostic” name for your particular notion of a god?

Workch:
That's one part of Agnosticism another part of it is that, there's no evidence for or against the existence of some certain gods

What are the qualities of these “certain gods” that’s different from other gods, and how did those “certain gods arrive at those qualities different from other gods?

KnownUnknown:
agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.


Which one is the agnostic position:

a) The nature of god is unknown

or

b) It’s impossible to know if there are things in existence that fit the description of gods

If a thing is Unknowable you will not even Know that thing, talkless of saying that thing is unknown.

KnownUnknown:


That’s the only part.

What is “God” other than your “agnostic” name for your particular notion of a god?

Stop cherry picking what you like

KnownUnknown:


That’s the only part.

What is “God” other than your “agnostic” name for your particular notion of a god?

and yes, it's impossible to know many things, including the existence of God

Workch:
Stop cherry picking what you like

If it’s impossible to know, then the idea of a god or deistic god will be wrong instantly since no one knows.
The moment someone claim they know this “unknowable” that’s a clear indication that they are saying rubbish.

Read the definition

Workch:
and yes, it's impossible to know many things, including the existence of God

Can’t you see your error.
Something is unknown, yet you are calling it “god”?

KnownUnknown:


That’s the only part.

What is “God” other than your “agnostic” name for your particular notion of a god?

humans will never know whether the universe was created or not for scientific reasons

Workch:
and yes, it's impossible to know many things, including the existence of God

Bro, thank you.
I’m an atheist because I’m agnostic.

Workch:
Stop cherry picking what you like

Maybe you should understand the position you take before yapping about whatever it is you call “God”

This is from your source:

Agnostics assert that it's impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not
divine beings exist.

Now, how is that different from my position of b) and how does it support your position of a)

KnownUnknown:
agnosticism, (from Greek agnōstos, “unknowable”), strictly speaking, the doctrine that humans cannot know of the existence of anything beyond the phenomena of their experience.


Which one is the agnostic position:

a) The nature of god is unknown

or

b) It’s impossible to know if there are things in existence that fit the description of gods

A001:

Using your other moniker to quote me, Ode. Very soon, you'll use your bud.atum or rottenbbq moniker to quote me. Confused, double-faced idiot.

I think you know very well that buda is no one else or you wouldn't have attempted to hide this by not spelling buda.

KnownUnknown:


Maybe you should understand the position you take before yapping about whatever it is you call “God”

This is from your source:

Agnostics assert that it's impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not
divine beings exist.

Now, how is that different from my position of b) and how does it support your position of a)

I am not arguing this, I am saying that agnostic also do not believe or disbelieve the existence of a god.

Workch:
I am not arguing this, I am saying that agnostic also do not believe or disbelieve the existence of a god.

And this unknowable thing is called god, we even know that the nature of this thing called god is unknowable bwahahahah

You are not a true agnostic.

Workch:
I am not arguing this, I am saying that agnostic also do not believe or disbelieve the existence of a god.

Of course not, you have no leg to stand on.

KnownUnknown:


Of course not, you have no leg to stand on.

Of course, the leg is suppose to be the evidence for or against god. No one stands on thin air

Workch:
That's one part of Agnosticism another part of it is that, there's no evidence for or against the existence of some certain gods

What certain gods?

jaephoenix:

What certain gods?

for me, particularly, a deistic god.
We have different versions of them though

LordReed:


Well some scientists conceive of time the same way and I do agree, time has to be independent of motion or else any motionless system would also be timeless.

We are getting somewhere.

Workch:
for me, particularly, a deistic god.
We have different versions of them though

Since we are ignorant and do not know this unknowable thing, the idea of a deistic god can not be right then.

Workch, let’s all stick to I DONT KNOW and reject any explanation given to us by scientists and Theists, because everyone is ignorant of it, any idea propose can never be right, because this thing is unknownable.

Workch:
for me, particularly, a deistic god.
We have different versions of them though

Which one specifically? I don't want to chase you around bushes this hot afternoon

jaephoenix:

Which one specifically? I don't want to chase you around bushes this hot afternoon

A specific kind of God that caused the singularity to form before big bang. That one

How can you prove or disprove that god?

KnownUnknown:


Okay, I’m not a theist or atheist or deist or pantheist.
What do you mean by god?

Lets keep it this simple.

Gnostic - "I know."
Agnostic - "I don't know."

End of.

Workch:
A specific kind of God that caused the singularity to form before big bang. That one

How can you prove or disprove that god?

This unknowable thing formed before big bang?
There was no other process except big bang?
The concept of big bang is our available explanation, in the next hundred years we may have a better explanation and disprove big bang, But you’ve already limited this god to “big bang”. Bwahahahah

DeepSight:


Lets keep it this simple.

Gnostic - "I know."
Agnostic - "I don't know."

End of.

Then any explanation that tries to explain the universe will be automatically wrong and rejected, because no one can know.
I’m an atheist because I’m agnostic.

DeepSight:


Lets keep it this simple.

Gnostic - "I know."
Agnostic - "I don't know."

End of.

No need to tell me. Tell your buddies.

Workch:
A specific kind of God that caused the singularity to form before big bang. That one

How can you prove or disprove that god?

How do you know it was a god that caused the singularity? How do you know it wasn't fghtjn or akruz

Maynman:


Then any explanation that tries to explain the universe will be automatically wrong and rejected, because no one can know.
I’m an atheist because I’m agnostic.

If we dont know, we cannot say anything is right or wrong.
We should simply say we dont know, end of.

jaephoenix:

How do you know it was a god that caused the singularity? How do you know it wasn't fghtjn or akruz

That's why I am agnostic in the first place, I don't know if it's a god that caused it or not.

Deist say that it's a god, atheist say it's not.

Me: we can never know, we don't know.

DeepSight:


If we dont know, we cannot say anything is right or wrong.
We should simply say we dont know, end of.

We don’t need to say anything is right and wrong, we will reject it because no one can know. Their explanation of the universe is wrong from their first statement because no one can know.

DeepSight:


If we dont know, we cannot say anything is right or wrong.
We should simply say we dont know, end of.

exactly what atheists and theists don't want to understand