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Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by soloaudu: 6:51am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Atiku is always very desperate for power. You cannot get Presidency in Nigeria - go and rest. 2 Likes |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by cardoctor(m): 6:57am On Mar 26, 2023 |
This is the Nigeria style of politics. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Jsucre(m): 6:58am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Jostoman:this shows southerners can't decide the winner |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Eniitankorede: 7:03am On Mar 26, 2023 |
ochejoseph: Atiku, this is not the first time we will hear this from you. You always complained when you lose election. You are always a sore loser who never agrees with election integrity when you lose. 1 Like |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by NigerianAngelo(m): 7:11am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Says a fellow rigger. You rigged in votes in Delta, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom Stole Obi's votes in Bauchi, Gombe, Adamawa, Taraba etc - kept announcing 20,000 whether 250k voted for him or not. Both you and Tinubu should be shamed. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Nobody: 7:11am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Talku talku, which I can stuff agbado in his big mouth. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by highchief1: 7:13am On Mar 26, 2023 |
ochejoseph:bros go back to dubai.You are an unserious old man.You went into an election with a fragmented party,u formed alliance with the weakest politicians(Dino,tambuwal,Ayu,reno,Bwala)etc people who can’t win their wards yet u expected to win an election.When them say miracle no Dey tire Jesus you think say na this kind one? |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by abiona36622: 7:17am On Mar 26, 2023 |
It is process that is wrong not that Tinubu didn't winIt is process that is wrong not that Tinubu didn't win... |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by McLizbae: 7:17am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Atiku understands, I guess thats why he's only making low key noise ![]() skj1377: |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by namqul(m): 7:18am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Reinaldo: But seriously this word criminal no qualify them please find the one that is very deeper |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by anambraamaka: 7:21am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Well said |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by byteem: 7:28am On Mar 26, 2023 |
skj1377: One bad election for a worse one.. right.. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by byteem: 7:29am On Mar 26, 2023 |
abiona36622: He dint win ..stop consoling urself.. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by RighteousI: 7:30am On Mar 26, 2023 |
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Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by jubrilELsudan: 7:38am On Mar 26, 2023 |
LIKE SEY HIM FIT VALIDATE HIM WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS KUKUNASE
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Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Paramount01(m): 7:38am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Asgard13: Who will now be our President |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Paramount01(m): 7:39am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Zimzy(m): 7:40am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Jostoman:I agree with you. Atiku can be many things but not a politician that uses the lives of those he wants to rule for political gains. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Nobody: 7:42am On Mar 26, 2023 |
RIGGING CLAIMS DON'T ADD UP BY MAHMUD JEGA A member of the British House of Lords, when told that money is difficult to come by these days, said he is nearly 90 years old but cannot remember any time in the past when money was easy to get. I have been watching Nigerian elections since 1979 and I cannot remember a time when those who lost the election did not allege rigging and intimidation. For a time, there was hope that President Goodluck Jonathan’s 2015 concession phone call could become the norm in Nigeria. It now looks like it was a one-off event. Instead, it was Godsday Orubebe’s 2015 attempt to storm INEC’s National Collation Centre that has endured, with Dino Melaye attempting a poor carbon copy in 2023. The young men and women who are saying on social media that the 2023 election was full of rigging and intimidation, have no personal knowledge of the golden age of rigging and intimidation in Nigerian elections. In this election I saw no reports in the media of thugs snatching ballot boxes and stuffing them. I saw no reports of security agents cordoning off whole polling stations while ballot boxes were being stuffed. There was no story of soldiers scattering voters in any place. Where is the mother of all rigging, when Supreme Court ruled in 1983 that UPN’s Bisi Onabanjo got 1.2million votes, NPN’s Akin Omoboriowo got 500,000 votes but the returning officer added 1 behind the figure and it became N1.5million? This year, the President did not declare the election a do or die. I saw no story of armed hooded security agents descending on a state, as in Ekiti in 2014. There was no story of an opposition governor’s plane denied landing rights at any airport. In 2023, we didn’t have a Police Commissioner Mbu denying an opposition party governor entry into his own Government House. Pray, where in Nigeria in 2023 did we have Police Commissioner Tahir Jidda denying Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe entry into Maiduguri and firing tear gas at Zik, even though Borno State Governor Muhammadu Goni stood beside him? Even the party primaries of last year lacked drama, because we saw nothing like the Babalawo who tried to enter the UPN state congress in Ibadan in 1983 with a live tortoise strapped to his waist.Another youngster wrote on social media that “this generation of Nigerian politicians do not know how to concede, unlike the older generation.” Sorry sir, they actually copied it from the older generation. In 1979, as soon as election results started trickling in, we saw GNPP leader Waziri Ibrahim dashing around to see UPN leader Chief Awolowo and NPP leader Dr. Azikiwe. The three of them, minus PRP leader Aminu Kano who refused to join, appeared together before pressmen, rejected the election results and alleged rigging, even though it was an election conducted by a military government, not like now when APC controls the Federal Government [at least, it used to]. The scene was re-enacted last week when PDP and LP running mates held a joint press conference and tried to present a common front, a case of locking the stables after the horses have bolted. Anyone who trusts such emergency political alliances has another thing coming. In 1979 the opposition parties presented us with a common front up until the Supreme Court upheld the election result. To our utmost surprise, just before Inauguration on October 1, 1979, NPN and NPP announced an accord where they shared legislative and executive posts between them. NPP got Deputy Senate President, House Speaker and several Cabinet posts, including Zik’s running mate Prof Ishaya Audu who became Foreign Minister, Mrs. Janet Akinrinade of Oyo and Paul Unongo of Benue. Who knows now if someone is negotiating under the table?Our local and social media activists who are trying very hard to impress foreign election observers and the Western press by citing scattered incidents of election day problems knowing that White people are sticklers for procedure. They insist on correct procedure even if it produces an undesirable outcome. We Africans, who are wiser, usually walk back from the answer to the question. Our politicians’ measure of the credibility of an election is if they win, not whether or not the procedure was followed. If they don’t win, then the election is not credible. The general African attitude to elections is that the outcome justifies the process. The credible outcome, in African eyes, is usually when the incumbent ruler or party is defeated. Hence, to most Africans, the best elections ever held in Africa were when Morgan Tsvangirai’s party defeated Robert Mugabe’s; when Adama Barrow defeated Yahaya Jammeh in Gambia; when Mohammed Morsi triumphed in Egypt against Hosni Mubarak’s premier; when Jerry Rawlings’ party was defeated in Ghana; when Macky Sall defeated Abdoulaye Wade in Senegal; when Wade himself earlier defeated Abdou Diouf; when Alassane Ouattara defeated Laurent Gbagbo in Ivory Coast; and more recently, when William Ruto triumphed in Kenya despite outgoing President Uhuru Kenyatta’s support for Raila Odinga.African style, let us walk backwards from the result to the credibility question. First, the voter turnout. There were 87 million voters with PVCs in 2023 election but only 24 million voted, or 27%. Now, the starting point of rigging elections is to take advantage of the number of registered voters. Why leave 63 million blank names on the register if you really desire to rig up results? There is no doubt that the technological innovations adopted over the years greatly helped to clean up our elections. Up until 2007, those absent voters will simply have their votes cast for them by a coalition of party agents, election officials and security officers.The winner of this election, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, got only 37% of the vote, down from the 56% that Buhari got in 2019. Now, while 2019 was a two-horse race between the APC and PDP candidates, 2023 was at least a four-horse race between APC, PDP, LP and NNPP candidates. It was the first time since 2007 that we had more than two major candidates in a presidential election and the first time since 1983 that we had up to four major candidates in such a race.The top four candidates in this election got 37%, 29%, 25% and 6% respectively. This compares closely with 1979 when Shagari got 34%, Awo got 29%, Zik got 16%, Aminu Kano got 10.28 and Waziri Ibrahim got 10%. The top three runners up in this race got a combined 60% of the vote. That is impressive, but then, they only have themselves to blame that they did not present a united front before the election. They only tried to present a united front to contest the results. It is a case of locking the stables after the horses have bolted. Would they have made 60% of the vote if they had united behind a single candidate? Nobody will ever know the answer for certain. Tinubu’s party went into this election controlling the Federal and 21 state governments. In the event, he won only 12 states outright. PDP’s Atiku Abubakar also won 12 states, LP’s Peter Obi won 12 states outright [FCT included] while NNPP’s Kwankwaso won outright in one state. So how did Tinubu win the race? Simple. The number of states that a candidate wins outright is important. Equally important is the number of states in which he came second. Also very important is, if he came second with only a narrow margin in most of them. Tinubu won 12 states outright [Zamfara, Jigawa, Borno, Niger, Kwara, Kogi, Benue, Ekiti, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Rivers]. He came second in 19 states [Kebbi, Sokoto, Kaduna, Katsina, Kano, Gombe, Bauchi, Yobe, Taraba, Nasarawa, Plateau, Adamawa, Osun, Lagos, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Edo, Imo and Ebonyi]. In many cases the margins of loss were very small, only 3,000 votes in Sokoto, 12,000 in Katsina and equally narrow margins in Osun and Lagos. Very important, Tinubu came second to Kwankwaso in Kano, second to Atiku in most of the states the latter won and second to Obi in Lagos, Ebonyi, Imo and Edo.This was exactly how Alhaji Shehu Shagari won the presidency in 1979. He won outright in nine states out of 19 [Sokoto, Kaduna, Niger, Bauchi, Gongola, Benue, Kwara, Rivers and Cross River.] He won in Kaduna and Gongola even though his party lost the governorship elections there two weeks earlier, what in those days was called “the bandwagon effect.” Of the remaining ten states in Nigeria at the time, Shagari came second in 9 [Oyo, Ogun, Ondo, Bendel, Anambra, Imo, Borno, Plateau and Kano]. Shagari came third only in Lagos, after Awo and Zik. Like Shagari, like Tinubu; you are victorious if your party is either first or second in almost every state. Allegations that APC rigged the election also falls flat because it lost the biggest states, namely Lagos, Kaduna, Kano and Katsina, even though all of them have APC state governors, all of whom are staunchly loyal to Tinubu. In terms of vote banks, what is Imo, Edo or Adamawa to these states? Why should anyone go rigging elections in some small states when he could rig up figures in the biggest ones and win by a large margin? If they could help it, why should ten APC governors, APC National Chairman and Director General of the APC campaign suffer the embarrassment of failing to deliver their states? Why should Tinubu himself suffer the embarrassment of failing to win outright in Lagos, long alleged to be his political fiefdom?Allegations that APC rigged these polls do not hold the water of logic. But those making them still have the chance to prove them at the election tribunals. Onabanjo managed to prove rigging even in the olden days of analogue collation. It is easier to do so in this age of electronic collation, if indeed rigging took place. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Paramount01(m): 7:44am On Mar 26, 2023 |
NigerianAngelo: You think so? I base in north,I am a Christian, Obi movement no-show for here at all, if you hear anybody that shouts obi just know is a Christian or he base in town In fact, some PU here don't have Lp agents, Take it or leave it Obi lost woefully here in the North.Though I am not saying it to believe that is the fact 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by verimoore(m): 7:45am On Mar 26, 2023 |
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Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Allisgud: 7:47am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Jostoman:see u,so u think all this terrorism going on in naija,atiku don't have a part he played in it |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Allisgud: 7:51am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Throwback:ur agbado will still return that durd cheque,called certificate of return |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by DeOTR: 7:53am On Mar 26, 2023 |
jersey4:Obi can not see Tinubu's taillights in a national election, if it had been just the two of them. The outcome wouldn't have differ from the last election, because you see those people that voted for Atiku? Almost all of them would have voted for Tinubu. To be clear, Tinubu would have won Lagos and Osun. Obi wouldn't have done better. Same with votes from the North. 1 Like |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Invitationn: 7:55am On Mar 26, 2023 |
SmartPolician:Dimwits. The “Druggie” doesn’t have anything to prove. The sore losers who thought their “mandates” was stolen are the ones saddled with the responsibility to prove that their mandates was indeed stolen! Don’t you think? |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Invitationn: 8:00am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Allisgud:We’ll see about that 😅 But we still have the “durd cheque”. You better hurry! TICK-TOCK TICK-TOCK ⏱️ You are running out of time 😂 |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by richardokubo(m): 8:03am On Mar 26, 2023 |
skj1377: What Kamal can anything be worst than this evil perpetrated on Nigerians by evil Apc party |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Jostoman: 8:19am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Afamed:the power from above are trying to install that APC woman in Adamawa just to disgrace Atiku because they know that Atiku doesnt know how to play dirty game. Some Nigeria politician can kill because of their political ambition. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Elidrisy20: 8:20am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Atiku you no well |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Bluntemperor: 8:39am On Mar 26, 2023 |
Racoon: Don't mind the nonsense on the Social Media posts,is part of the freedom of speech,in today's mundane journalism! - Obi claimed he won,just wander-if you win Lagos,so Tinubu also won, does that mean winning Nigeria, different inuendoe are being peddled- including calling Judiciary different names by their On-line footsoldiers! - Some leaders in the East - including the LP -failed to condemn, the Killings, Destructions, Kidnappings,the stay at home,etc,in the East - just once, and towards the elections time,under pretence that people loves it! Violence does not pay,just like crimes does not pay too!. - Obi is loosing the Brand - for he should work on this , afterall,four yrs is just around the corner! - Simon Ekpa has come out with different strategies ,after the Finland authority wag their fangs, afterall,he was responsible for fuelling all these attrocious behaviours on the eastern part! - During the End SARS - our Youths believed then is different from the elections principles because this time,the Locals will Votes differently! -there is no where any election,in any State can be said -free eg-LP has 460,000 - elections Agents/observers,other parties have 170,000 or more,etc, so,how do you know,as a Party -what was counted for you, when nobody reprents you? Let's condemn what is bad and embrace Peace in our land,for nowhere in the World -where elections is absolutely free, without minimal subjectivities! |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by Johnjustice: 9:38am On Mar 26, 2023 |
You and Obi go drag second place. Atiku you have never helped Nigeria in any way, everyone knows about the assets you sold off. Stop comparing yourself to Tinubu, Atiku you are a liability to Nigeria, Tinubu is an asset. Sensible Nigeria knows. |
Re: I'll Never Validate An Illegitimate Outcome Of A Flawed Process - Atiku by juocin: 9:53am On Mar 26, 2023 |
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